🛩️ Day in the Life of a Pilot! - CARGO! Flying the Metroliner 📦
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- What's it like to be a cargo pilot every day? What's it like to fly a Metroliner at Key Lime Air? By the way, these airplanes are loud. (amzn.to/3GUScb7) I recommend getting a Bose A20 to protect your hearing. How about a budget headset? 👉 (amzn.to/34WvUsg)
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I imagine that someone from HR was behind you with a gun as you made this video.
Guns are not allowed on planes. It was electrodes to his nipples. Could be positive reinforcement though - a promise of 6.5 hours of sleep between shifts!!!
NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@Maloy7800 I mean i heard some rumors that the life sucks there, but damn.
@@betacase07 You don't know half of it!
I have watch again to see if our man was blinking Morse code.
"Unloading boxes is always the most fun part for me"
Are you kidding me?
s a r c a s m
Right? lol
Did 3 years of cargo. Its a good exercise. Gained weight afterwards.. No good..
As a ramper I Laughed out Loud. Also split shift is a hard pass for me and I'm on the ground.
I was with LTL freight company, but driving trucks and not flying. And as well as driving, we also had to "work freight", loading and unloading the trailers. And we did get "items" of freight that was out of the ordinary and interesting all the time. And with the air freight I would imagine the freight to be just as varied if not more so. Items sent on air freight are there because of the need for quick transit. This makes me think of items that could be expensive, rare, of great priority, of high necessity, and in many other ways that made them this item of high priority to ship fast at a higher cost.
I flew the Metro 3/23,with 19 passengers, for a year. One of the most challenging airplanes I've flown in my 21 year, 19000 hour career. It is in NO WAY, a single pilot airplane!
What a cheap, dangerous airline.
@@CommercialPIC yeah ok, i had 6000 hours by the time I started flying a metro, mostly pic on turbo props. This is not a beginners aircraft. I now am capt on the 777 for 7 years, the metro is harder to fly.
@@CommercialPIC how much Sim training do they get in v1 cuts?
@@jacklayton34 Here in Australia an airline called Sharp Airlines puts 200 hour cadets into the right side of a Metro, flying into and out of pretty challenging airports often in poor weather. Usually the guy in the left seat is a former cadet as well, not much older than 25. I have no idea how they haven't had any incidents but it would seem that proper training is key.
@@jameson566 yes a company in Canada, perimeter airlines used to put 250 hr guys in the right seat of the metro 2,but they couldn't take off or land at the northern airports with gravel strips.
@@jacklayton34 I agree. It's one stiff legged son of a bitch. I put two years in as copilot, two pilot, passenger flying. Touchy, twitchy, and demands your constant attention. It did make me a better pilot. I had 2200 hours when I started flying it. Went on to a major airline after those 2 years.
"Ever wondered about flying cargo?"
"No, but youtube says I should be wondering about flying cargo, so now I will"
lol
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Everyone: “flying is so much fun”
No one: “Loading cargo is one of my favorite things about this job”
No AP, steam gages, single pilot, handling the boxes... Safety first, keep counting your pennys Lime air👌
Lololo
I hope you advance quickly onto regular FAR 121 operations with two pilots in a modern aircraft.
Flying the Metroliner commercially in Colorado with bad weather and high average elevation with little to no automation as single pilot in IFR conditions pushes the workload up to 11. There is basically zero margin of error, even for experienced pilots.
I agree entirely Axel. Thankfully I have moved on from this company since recording. I couldn’t have said it better. 👌🏻
You're absolutely correct in your statement here! Some CZcams, 'Top Gun', know-it-all, and self-proclaimed, pilot lays claim to being able to fly this notoriously difficult aircraft, single-pilot in adverse weather and conditions, with no difficulties at all. This aircraft is a known pilot- hater and has little tolerance towards even professional pilots during it's handling and constant hands- on requirement. You are very correct in your summary of thie handling of this aircraft
Man I’m 25 years old, now kids, no wife, and have 10k to my name. I dream of being in your shoes, I don’t know where to start. Left community college 6 years ago, this is an inspiration. Maybe one day will cross path, I want to be a pilot so bad but my lack of confidence holds me back
*no kids
Respect for cargo Metro aircraft pilots! This is a notoriously difficult aircraft to fly and requires a lot of hands-on flying.
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I keep reading this, "notoriously difficult". Why? I didn't find it all that difficult to fly, and I am as average a pilot as you can find.
. This aircraft was not equipped with autopilot, and flying through turbulence, bad weather or other conditions is extremely tiring and exhausting, because you need to have ' hands on ' control all the time. Very easy aircraft to fly in favourable weather conditions though.
As a UPS employee and aviation enthusiast working in the mountain region, I've always wondered about how we get our air packages out to the less populated areas of the state. I always assumed it was something like how you wonderfully described and showed. So it was nice to see it. I don't work at the airport but I would eventually love to work there. People have no idea how much goes into getting their packages to them on time. Thanks for sharing.
I understand the Metro III can be a real bad girl especially VFR in the Rockies and by yourself, but these tough early-career hours quickly make an unquestionably superior pilot. Stay with it and best wishes. Thanks for posting.
Would the experience help you gain a better position?
Dude. If you’re the guy who landed the Metroliner in Centennial this week after having a mid-air collision with a Cirrus….damn fine job of flying.
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Don't forget the part about how your "pressured" to fly into bad weather (because we know those Amazon packages must be delivered) because if you refuse a flight because of a safety concern, you risk loosing your job! Of course they will deny this for fear of FAA. Pilots will tell you the truth though, if they are not in fear of loosing their job!
That's a thing of the past. I flew feeder cargo for a while (Not for this place). I didn't have any concerns about retaliation for delaying or canceling a flight for a legitimate reason. In fact, I worked with a guy who used to bail on flights for ridiculous reasons all the time. No issues. There is already tremendous turnover as folks ditch them for the regionals as soon as they get their time. They need to retain all the pilots they can.
Scott which company did you work for?
@@5678sothourn AMF.
@@5678sothourn Rather not say on a open forum. I would say to follow your gut instinct, and never ever leave yourself without a solid out. Don't let that door close behind you. Don't listen to "Well John didn't have a problem getting through" Weather, as you know is dynamic and is constantly changing. You can not have get-there-itis and expect to have a fruitful career being a freight dog. Stay safe guys. I will say though, things are a whole lot better than they used to be. RIP Captain Lance!!
The word is “lose”. As in “losing” your job.
I faced many rough times in life and I still motivate my self to become a pilot one day
@toasty cinnamon depends on the school, to get a cpl usually 6-18 months
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Dude, build those hours and get out. Starting work when it’s dark is normal for a pilot. But having some 6 or 8 hour split shift when you probably can’t sleep then finishing work when it’s dark again sounds pretty dodgy.
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Damn, even the DC-3 had some kind of autopilot.
Raj Van Sluytman Autopilot systems take up usable weight that could be used to carry more freight, plus they require maintenance. Freight Dog airplanes are strictly no frills.
@@jimgood1949 that's called stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime.
8literbeater Absolutely. But, I take it that you don’t know the operators of very many small air freight companies.
@@jimgood1949 what does that have to do with your recommendation?
8literbeater Recommendation? You’ve got to be kidding me! I was a pilot, I had to fly those old ill equipped planes. If it was up to me we would have been flying newer, much better equipped aircraft. I was making a statement of how it was, absolutely not recommending how it should have been.
Personally I think your company should add in autopilots etc to improve safety margines for yourselves the aircraft and freight carried...imo Laurie
My dad flew cargo. Said they didn’t install autopilots because that 7 pounds adds up over 5 planes and a year of flying.
Ryan Padgett at least they could save weight putting in glass and getting rid of vacuum pumps. Might be enough weight saved for an autopilot. I imagine the most weight of the autopilot comes from the trim servos. Are these planes manually trimmed?
Autopilots add to the aircraft. Not so much the weight but the complexity and there for the maintenance costs. To retrofit an exsisting qircraft could cost over half a million dollars per plane.
Erik De Lamarter not really sure about the trim but all that would cost a lot of money that these companies don’t really want to fork over
Very few places that fly Metro's have autopilots. Whether cargo or not. Been at 3 different companies with metros. At the current one we have a couple that still have autopilots. Usually when they break though most companies just say "no more autopilot sorry". Not sure if the Metro's is specifically difficult compared to other turboprops.
“Unloading boxes is always a fun part of the job for me” ☠️
Haha the truth!
Came here from the mid air collision. I don't know how the Key Lime aircraft was able to take off in the first place despite the pilots giant balls of steel. He kept cool while flying a convertible plane!
He did not know the origin of the problem but he remembered rule #1 fly the airplane.
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“Unloading the boxes is the fun part!” Dude - really? 🤣😂
Full days work and another $125 bucks minus taxes in your pocket...Key lime you rock!
One of you lost a roof during a landing, and you got it down with no issue. Amazing piece of piloting.
Sure was! Thanks for watching and commenting. 😎
I started out flying mostly cargo on C208's in Alaska in the 90's. It was actually some of my most fun flying. I"m at Delta now and making a lot more money, but sometimes wish I could be back there.
Typical feeder route. Brings back fond memories. Back in the 1990s used to fly L-410s MGGT-MSLP-MHTG and back with a similar schedule, not single pilot but challenging. Still a freight-dog but the B757 automation does most of the heavy duty for me these days. Great video!
Mate. Your day is exactly the same as a Metro driver in New Zealand working for Air Chathams. Cheers.
Worked at Sweringen Aircraft San Antonio 1972-1975.
We built quarter panels,fuselage, nose gear, wings, good to see II's and III's are still around
I wouldn't wear the reflective vest while flying. If there is a fire, it will melt on you and get all over your hands burning the sh*t out of you. I speak from experience.
.We wear them whenever we're walking around on the ramp or doing the exterior inspection.
The majority of pilot uniforms are maybe of polyester to rayon. It’s kind of a moot point.
MEH!
So basically, the higher ups don't wanna spend the dollars to bring their aircraft up to current capability and then someone makes video trying to convince us all that it's somehow "better, or safer" with single pilot in congested air space with steam gauges. Stop bro. No need to kiss that bosses ass here.
Agreed. In todays day and age of Aviation, there is no excuse for this kind of operation, the technology exists to make things safer and easier for single pilots, use it. And this video really doesn't help, they're trying so hard to sell this job to newbies, but to me this job looks like living hell and honestly scared me a bit.
While I agree, in fact with customers single pilot IFR requires a working autopilot, (at least in Canada) it's a metro thing. Most companies I know have no autopilot and fly two crew instead. metros are old
I was wondering if I was the only one that felt this way. I totally agree with dan downs.
There are a few great books about Freight Flying , Freight Dog , A Cargo Pilots Life -Tails From Corrosion Corner stand out. Your comment is rather naive. As long as there are hard core low time Pilots , they will RUN to build time in outfits like this. The bottom line is always money. Is it scary? Sure. But low time or even high time guys love the life and difficulty of this challenge
Hand flying analog cargo planes, what else could you ask, best job ever, much safer and much though also to fly than those computer pilots they have nowadays.
Honestly you sound like the perfect company man....... don’t wear that vest when flying..... if will melt in a fire..... no autopilot and intentional high task loads for pilots is asking for trouble.... they are just trying to save money.... once you have the hours run away as fast as you can
I fly in the corporate and charter sector and while I love my job...I sometimes envy you guys. While I not saying it’s easy or you don’t have your frustrations by any means...some of the “people” you deal with in my day to day operations (CEO types and extremely wealthy) sometimes leave a frustrated or bad taste in my mouth. Not all of them by any means... but like I say, sometimes I miss just me and the airplane like you experience everyday. Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
That’s #1 reason I don’t want to go corporate. Well... #2 reason.
#1 is either being married to the aircraft if it has a small flight crew where your days off are only behind you (you can’t plan anything because the boss might want to go to Palm Springs last minute) or the bigger depts and fractional who want to get value out of the airplane so they Charter it out and you live out of a hotel on an airline schedule without the pay or perks and a lot more BS (grooming, dealing with people, calling for FBO services, etc).
Flew cargo before corporate. I rather exercise while handling boxes than not exercise while babying my demanding bosses. Some managers are arseholes and they sort of threat their limo drivers nicer than the pilots.. Jealosy. or Penis envy is called..
Single pilot IFR is one thing.. single pilot IFR with no A/P is a joke .. it’s dangerous with the workload.. that Airlines a joke it’s 2019... I wouldn’t fly for that airline, way better starting out jobs out there.
Yikes, if proficient piloting is a joke to you, I hope you never pilot anything. At least, not with me in it.
Eseem cmon you don’t wanna go fly with me? I’m sure the pilots are very professional and proficient... still it’s a high workload
This is pretty common in freight flying. I've known a few people who have left freight flying because the workload made it unsafe in their opinion. Still, for the right person, I think it is great experience.
I have to agree. This airplane shouldn’t be flown single pilot, let alone in IFR and with no AP. Give them a damn AP Key Lime! When the guy is single engine, in the clouds, it will save a life.
@ryan lemons You Tube Channel!!! props to these guys that fly this thing single pilot. I fly the metro for a living and know how much of a pig this thing can be single engine.
Key Lime Air? I would have assumed a Florida outfit. Lol.
Yeah, that was my first thought as well.
@@CommercialPIC wasn't that the area Chalks had a monopoly on? Seems like an opening for the right company to try again.
Centennial Colorado
Should be called frozen lime air. Or rocky mountain oyster air. Or mile high air.
im guessing the food service is pie
I fly a jet for a regional. Watching this makes me glad I have my job. :)
Can't the bees just fly there themselves?
Bees are strictly rated only for VFR. They don't know how to talk to ATC and depart from a class Bravo, much less taxi through one.
@@opl500 r/woosh
@@gettothepoint2707 kid he was joking you donut lmao how can a bee get VFR rated
@@ciucxd3667 I was also joking, silly😉.
And FYI I'm 11 now and I'm no kid, okay?
@@gettothepoint2707 I thought I was the only one at my age watching this. Lol
My husband (ex) use to fly metro liners 4 out of Miami to Atlanta everyday and dead head back .. pay was great !! But he would never be at home !!
And he missed out on our little ones grow !! And then he found someone else !! And left us
Hi Captain, nice vídeo, just a question , since you are the Captain, why only three stripes on your epaulets ?
5:38 he has 4 on right here and hes on duty
@@gordo1163 that's a different pilot,he has 3 stripes and the tattoo is on his right arm while at 5:38 it's on the left arm and he has no beard at that time,you see him at 6:00 with 3 stripes
@@gordo1163 How tf can you get the two mixed up :D
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my brother you deserve a huge reward. ive only got 145 hours on cessna 172. i was shocked and impressed when u said SINGLE PILOT AND NO AUTO PILOT. all your flying is manual. wowwwww!..and your pilot skills skyrocket! that sounds like hardcore experience..keep it up bro!
Trust me. You pay your dues flying the metro III. Nice Key lime air offers a real crew house. Back in the day it was static motorhomes/ 5th wheels...lol
I used to do that in the 1980's in Aero Commanders and others. No autopilot, no copilot, no GPS, yes scud running and lots of fun..
It wasn't too many years ago that a person had to pay Key Lime to be an FO in the SW4. Now, I see it's the other way around.
Not a pilot, but the only thing I see glamorous about this job, is the beautiful plane in green.
Nice in depth video. I worked at DHL and we called these planes feeders. They would bring cargo from smaller airports to LAX overnight. We had a contract with Ameriflight that had similar/same planes as Key Lime but with no windows. I didn't know pilots touched freight thought the rampers loaded/unloaded...😃
I'm currently looking at going the ATP route of becoming a pilot. I absolutely love this video since i currently live in Colorado and absolutely geeked when i realized that there are cargo opportunities out here in Colorado. I hope i can live this dream one day.
You should! I wish you the best and hope you accomplish your dreams
Yeah okay, this is great and all. But the real question is..... How much Key Lime Pie can you carry?
Jake Hoodock I was about to make this joke
@@swedishkappa1051 ahhh Beat you to it ;)
Got this in my recommendation after the mid air collision 💥 .My Respect to that pilot for landing in that condition.
@@CommercialPIC I bet all lime air metroliner Pilots are aces 😃✌
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Somebody sounds like a key lime air recruiter, nothing about this is glamours 😂😂😂... talking about SRM will skyrocket 😂😂
I just got my commercial licence and man i'd do anything to fly the metroliner, one of my favourite aircrafts out there,,
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Single pilot with three stripes? Single pilot FO is an interesting concept. Also, ditch the exclusive club of elite aviators. This is an entry level position.
Cmon, man!!! He HAS to find a replacement!!! Otherwise, he'll never be out of this shit!!! Give the guy a chance!!!
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Man, that's one of the best ways to become the best aviator, so true!
Enjoyed the video I have traveled as a passenger on Metro's many times with Bearskin Airlines in Northern Ontario Canada and wasn't aware that they do not have AP, you guys who fly these are very skilled pilots!
John Morris , some do have autopilot, the DHL and UPS Metos had it and many others. Those airplanes are still around flying , of course no longer owned or operated by them.
Rode with Bearskin on the Metroliner from Winnipeg to Lynn Lake back in 2008. Great service!
John Morris I flew the Metro at the Bear from 99 to 05. We always flew two pilot and only one had an autopilot that would lose the plot in pitch especially with an aft cg. It’s crazy to hear they fly single pilot no autopilot. Much respect to those fellas.
UPS driver here. hoping to be a UPS pilot some day. ignore the doubters! keep it up!
Great job, you can be single pilot however i think it would be safer with a good GPS and an autopilot.
The pickle. I work at my local fbo and we had one of key lime airs merlins crash. Was a really sad day. Pilot was a really good dude who had just had a kid. Be safe out there
In the very late 90’s or early 2000’s (can’t exactly recall) I was taxiing out for takeoff in Denver in a citation and watched a key lime Metroliner clip a de ice boom on the west end of A concourse and destroy the number 2 engine and put a hefty crease in the wing. It was a sight to see!
MileHighFirebird . Also... loved your video! You have great enthusiasm . Back in the day when I was Denver based flying corporate jets I always enjoyed seeing those metroliners and thought it would looked like you guys were have a lot of fun compared to my “routine” corporate flying job. But yes the de ice boom incident I witnessed... watch out for those things man they come outta nowhere and attack without warning 😆! Happy flying sir.
That's pretty intense. Flying single pilot in actual IMC no autopilot is pretty taxing on the aviator. I understand people do it all the time (I personally dont care for it) but as other people have commented your company should get autopilot installed. Its safer. Thanks for this video.
Just subscribed tonight. Your career reminds me so much of the show “Flying Wild Alaska”. It takes true grit and dedication to do the work that you have chosen to do. No autopilot? Brave, very brave but it teaches you to rely on your training rather than letting the machine do half of the work. Enjoyed watching. Safe skies. 🛫🌌
I agree and disagree with different aspects of the video.
I AGREE that this is the best stivk you'll ever be in your career... The FOs I get who come from places like Ameriflight are great pilots.
I DISAGREE with going single-pilot hard IFR with no autopilot. That is just begging for trouble. Dual crew with no ap, or single pilot with a functioning AP, both completely doable.
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Nice video. I started on Aero Commanders in 1979 hauling bank mail and packages. It was the right time to get started as I advanced quickly. I recently retired as a 747 Capt. I had a great run. I flew SA226/227's in '81/'82. Had fun with them.
I’m flying Aero Commanders hauling bank mail and freight today, those Aero Commanders have been a workhorse for many decades!
I worked at Stapleton (DEN) in 81, 82. Rocky Mtn Airways, and Pioneer Aviation. Pioneer flew metros, that we used to start with a GPU . Scary stuff, especially at night.
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Thank you for this. Congratulations! You're living the dream.
If you're ever on the tarmac and see an Amazon goose trailer driving through, it might be me! I work out there at DIA driving a hostler truck right past where you guys park your planes😊
That’s excellent! Will do
I used to drive by your planes at Centennial while pursuing my sport pilot license at a flight school there. Have always thought the Metro III was a beautiful bird (although I thought I was going die on one once!) Nice video!
No commercial aviation in my country without 1st officer and AP. Thats the way it is. Becoming a commercial pilot here is a long, arduous and expensive process. As a consequence we have the highest safety record in the world. You are looking at 2000 hrs before you get in the left seat.
Solo hand flying is the absolute best way to build and hone your skills as a Pilot.
Your judgement, decision making, planning, etc, will be improved way more than if you were two crew flying with an automatic pilot engaged.
Thank you for sharing this video.
You’re totally incorrect. Anyone flying a metro should already know how to fly. Stick skills are just a small part of flying for a living.
@@c208driver6 I respectfully disagree.
Of course the Pilot should already know how to fly the aircraft, to think otherwise is irrational!
The Pilot is hand flying a Metro, Night and SPIFR, these skills are a large part of him living to fly again!
c208 Driver it’s better to feel the stick and response of the control surfaces to get used to it at first but you are right they should be experienced already
Takes me back to the days when my buddy flew the metro IIs for Superior between DEN and ALS. Such a cool airplane!
I worked at Swearingen Aircraft, building the Metro when I was 21 years old, in San Antonio. It was awesome!
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Does that ‘crew house’ & ‘crew car’ come with a ‘crew girlfriend’?
Yes. Brutus aka “maneater” is in room 204.
Second video ive seen today of someone inbound to RIL, i briefly delivered coffee there, i hope that i can make stops again there one day, prefferably on the runway and not the driveway
Awesome video. On topic of Autopilots: Flying single pilot IFR in Germany is actually illegal without an autopilot!
really glad that here in canada we have ( mandatory ) autopilot for single pilot IFR ops :p
Absolutely. Thank for your input! 😎
This seems awful. You have to fly an outdated plane in bad weather and then sit somewhere for 8 hours and then fly it back? No thanks.
And single pilot too ... these guys are crazy...
That money tho. With the right co
Randall Tufts what kind of money are we talking?
@@nado411 I have to at least assume at his relatively young age (compared to my old retired from freight hauling ass) that he's building time. If the money and the experience makes him happy I'm fine with his arrangement. He's obviously being at least provided for reasonably. I retired quite a while back from a small CO that got gobbled up by a bigger corporation. Not unusual . Specialized routes get bought out on a regular basis but that was nearly 20 years back. Things have changed and not for the best. I had two dedicated flights a week and I was well paid. From what I'm hearing now that isn't the case anymore. I was home nightly, I had a great boss, I was well connected, well trained and well paid. Unfortunately I know I was an exception not a rule. I know I was blessed beyond belief, but loyal. This young man works his ass off. I give him props for that. Likely single and few responsibilities. You can only live on the ragged edge so long, burning candles at both ends never works out for people in the end. I hope he stays safe and able to fly a long time. I saw many come and go.
Randall Tufts yeah I’m not hating on the guy at all, everyone has to put in their time. I’m coming up on 20 years flying helicopters in the army and I watched this video because I’m trying to figure out what to do when I get out. All I was saying that this isn’t my cup of tea but on him for getting his grind on and being motivated about it. Was just asking about the money because one mans pennies is another mans fortune so it’s hard to tell which aviation jobs actually pay or which ones are just for the Iove of flying. Thanks
If you fly a Metro, I don’t care who for, you’re a rock solid pilot in my book!
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Great video and thank you for making this, it reminds me of the old days when I was a cargo pilot. It has its ups and downs, but I hope you find something much better. Take care.
the key lime air midair collision was the best thing that could ever happen to this channel! that aside, so has that pilot been on leave? or is he working again? he had no idea it was a mid air until he landed and went back right - he thought it was just a single engine failure right? another separate topic: i can't fathom how u guys can fly single pilot ifr in bad weather with no autopilot!! are u saying the aircraft literally has ZERO AUTOPILOT, no heading select, no alt hold, NO AUTOPILOT WHATSOEVER? so you're conducting the ENTIRE flight by HAND on the yoke the ENTIRE flight? all while managing radio, charts, checklist, issues, etc. how is that even possible?? i mean i can't comprehend it. even GA pilots have some form of at least basic alt hold, heading hold, so they can take their hand off the yoke for a second.
@@CommercialPIC you didn't actually answer any of my questions though lol. esp at least address the autopilot questions I have......
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Brother GET THE F..... OUT OF THERE just as soon as you can !!!
I'm retired now but I flew contract for a great old Company MedicRx (supply) that since has been gobbled up by a big corporation. I still miss flying freight every day. I don't feel I missed a thing by not moving on. The company was small but extremely well connected, the pay was fantastic, the dedicated routes were few but consistent and I had one boss to answer to. I feel blessed beyond belief after seeing this young man beat his brains out every day loading and flying both. He has my respect for doing it but I pray it's just a time builder. I couldn't imagine that much of a pressure cooker every day. Its a recipe for disater eventually. The fastest rat doesnt always finish the race. Things have changed over the last 30+ years. Did I say how blessed I was? Lol
Best of luck friend!
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Hand flying is essential.. however, the practice of Single Pilot IFR in a demanding aircraft with low time pilots and high turn around sounds like a failure in the companies SMS. Available safety vs. Actual safety is no good
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My local airport runs one of these and you always double-check the seatbelt lol, far more clunkers than good landings, and the way it sways under deceleration makes it feel as if it is going to tip onto its wings.
Worked on Metro's for years. The company I worked for at one time was flying 22 of a combination of Metro 2's and 3's. We developed the 4 blade prop conversion to make them quieter and a bit more efficient to get into or challenging northern runways. The older systems were always a challenge to keep in calibration and operating for our crews but I enjoyed the 24 years I did it.
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Thanks for the video just starting out, getting my private license and I want to do Cargo and get to UPS or FedEx.
Sounds like piloting there was insanely difficult, rough as a lifetime career choice, but perfect to build proficiency, skills, and a resume.
6:17 Clearly every box is loaded and unloaded with CARE and a delicate touch no matter what the contents.....
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Yeah buddy... Now that's a career path that's hard to pass up. But, I'll hand it to you. Go back to the 70's. Duct Tape 1 thru 7- a fleet of beat up Cherokee 6's flying film, bank checks all at night. Depart around midnight. Make your stops then watch the sun burn your corneas as the sun came up. What's this thing you call an auto what? Mark 12 radios, VOA4 nav heads (when they worked) GPS? What was that? Weather? Well, if you don't want to go, we'll send your last check (all $900 a month on a good month) to you. ADF was the most reliable instrument in the plane (when it worked like nothing else did)
Did work with a guy that flew the Metroliner 35 yrs ago. 2 pilot op's. He loved it, but NOT a single pilot IFR workload. He's still alive; I'm still alive ... hope you stay that way too.
Sounds like Air Aurora (callsign Borealis)...am I correct?
Real Part 135 pilot here. Former Part 135 training captain too. There is some stuff that isn't adding up in this video. He is wearing 3 stripes, is sitting in the right seat(No the video isn't mirrored), and single-pilot IFR without either a functional autopilot that is approved under the company's operation specifications or a second pilot qualified under those same OpSpecs under part 135 is ILLEGAL.
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everything he says it’s not an advantage; steam gauges over PFD/MFD, high task saturation, no autopilot, forced to fly in low condition and above all Solo flying, so you don’t even mature enough social skills for a multicrew cockpit, not to mention how dangerous it is in case of emergency onboard or incapacitation
Matsuda Industries incapacitation for him equals death
Company that I used to work for had a Metro II auger in from altitude in TN. Single pilot flying a light load to Texas. Left a crater and no official cause. My guess was pilot had a blood sugar problem and blacked out.
Came here from VASAviation video of a key lime pilot with a trim failure. I was curious about what type of plane it was and this video was incredibly informative!! Very awesome!
Welcome aboard Dan! I appreciate you and hope you get much value from your time on the channel! Thanks for being here. 😎
Were you by any chance the guy involved in that midair collision around Denver? If it was you, awesome job flying that plane.... if not, kudos to your colleague!
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The advantage of analog instruments is that you know if you are on-altitude and on-airspeed without directly looking at the instruments. You can see them out of the corners of your eyes without staring at them. Glass altitude and airspeed tapes are always in motion and you have to focus directly on-them to determine if you are in stable flight.
In a dramatic reversal this is probably a sought after job now...
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Awesome, I have found memories of the lawn dart.:) I used to fly cargo in a Metro 2 in the early 90's and that lead the way into a FedEx 727.:) Of all the aircraft I've flow the metro was one of my favorites.:) If you can fly the Metro well, you can fly anything.:)
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@@CommercialPIC Thanks, I’m a retired airline pilot and have already flown FedEx 727, Metro, and Caravans. One of the best jobs you can get in the US. I was flying for FedEx in Canada, so not the same pay, so I ended up leaving Canada. I went to Qatar Airways (727) and then to Dragon Air A320 and A330. Retired five years ago at 50, with 28 years of experience.
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Wow! Single pilot, no ap? That’s crazy!
Hi, thanks for the exciting documentation. We also fly Metroliners. Metro 23 DC . I can recommend that you use MT propellers. They are quieter, more efficient and the starting process is faster.
Appreciate the suggestion!
Metroliners were not built for single pilot (hence the bleed air switches on the far right and low), but the autopilots have a hard time controlling the massive roll inputs needed against the super sensitive pitch and they aren't MEL-able...so most operators go single, or dual pilot with pax. Love the Metro...but it's a pig, to be sure.
@Exuma Guy I should clarify, "it's my opinion that the Metro should be dual pilot" (no offense to single pilots). I flew with 3 operators in Australia, and none of them had MEL-able A/P's (may be an Ozzy reg, or a restriction from the Operator, or a possible connection to the flight controls...I don't know). There have been over 300 incidents/accidents of Metros (NTSB) and considering there were only approx 600+ built, indicates it wasn't the safest of turboprops. Again, I don't know why the bleed air switches are located below eye height, on the FO side, but it has been implicated in at least one fatal crash (single pilot, after T/O at night, YSSY), that I know of. I can't imagine a worse place to put them. Cool aircraft, but Ed Swearingen wasn't the Michelangelo of design and by the time of production it was Fairchild's baby anyway. My opinon only....
This gave me flashbacks to running Brasilias out of San Luis and Querertero... *Shivers*
Someone should make a video about the ODC life. 30 minutes phone call to airplane. However, it'd be less of a documentary and more of an exposé
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No autopilot is a step too far for me. Single pilot OK, but c'mon, fit an A/P. You only have to buy it once per aircraft
It looks to me like your airline is:
a) using up your alertness and capacity as they're too tight to fit an A/P
b) using you to advertise for more pilots
It would be safer and better for you to manage the autopilot on the en-route section of your flying, saving your energy and alertness for the more critical stages of flight and preparing you better for the rigours of 2 pilot operations
I have 23 years in with UPS and am a basic PPL pilot with over 100 hours, I always heard about small companies that did the flights for UPS cargo and bam, here it is for the Colorado area! Unloading is something I did at 17 and 18, crazy as a pilot you have to be the one who unloads. I think I'd rather fly the passengers but that's my own dream and someone has to do the job:)
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@@CommercialPIC Thanks buddy. I just rolled 400 hours yesterday but my plane keeps having break downs which has side lined me. I should already be done with my commercial but life blew up on me last year and I had to stop, still managed to get 200 hours in the last 12 months. My flight school I used has been dropping CFI's left and right to the airlines and they spoke to me about possibly becoming one in the future, we will see. Thanks for the update.
Struggling to build hours. Hopefully flying will be my last career until I retire. Four more semesters at Parks College.
Loved the video. I always find it humorous when pilots speak on the radio and I can't catch a single word but then half the time when shopping at walmart I don't understand a word that comes over the intercom. That aside, I really enjoyed the video and the slice of life you provided. It brings a smile and new info learned. Thanks.
Nothing says professional like dropping cargo out of the plane at 6:18