2025 Lucid Air | Long Term Testing, Pro and Cons

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @csgarage3682
    @csgarage3682 Před měsícem +733

    A Lucid Station Wagon would be a killer car!

    • @cheapercharlie
      @cheapercharlie Před měsícem +42

      The RS6 needs some proper competition.

    • @thismanagain
      @thismanagain Před měsícem +4

      💯

    • @MrCarGuy
      @MrCarGuy Před měsícem +10

      Basically the Gravity

    • @yebzy
      @yebzy Před měsícem +6

      @@cheapercharlieI think it’d be more of a taycan competitor

    • @savedfaves
      @savedfaves Před měsícem +20

      @@MrCarGuy The Gravity is definitely not a station wagon. It's a similar shape to the ID.5.

  • @animalmother4
    @animalmother4 Před měsícem +985

    I hope their financials improve because they make beautiful vehicles

    • @isserdigan2835
      @isserdigan2835 Před měsícem

      PIF owned them. They are not going to go away. Saudi was throwing Trillions on a "City" in a desert. This is just a drop in their bottomless bucket

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 Před měsícem +47

      They've been making a ton of capital expenditures. I'd wait until year two of Gravity production to judge anything.

    • @ExecuteBrandon
      @ExecuteBrandon Před měsícem +34

      Let’s hope they learn how to make door handles without bugs…. 😂😂

    • @TommyPickIes
      @TommyPickIes Před měsícem +64

      Tf is that name 😂 ​@@ExecuteBrandon

    • @IEATU95
      @IEATU95 Před měsícem

      you must be blind as a bat, these cars look like something out of a fever dream, no lines, boring and bland

  • @goatmonkey2112
    @goatmonkey2112 Před měsícem +373

    I didn't know that Mark was a powerlifter. That weight set is insane!

    • @PianoBlackTrimRep.
      @PianoBlackTrimRep. Před měsícem +24

      Looks like Mark has upped the Creatine, L-glutamine and BCAAs dosage!

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem +5

      @@goatmonkey2112 Mark is awesome

    • @noob.168
      @noob.168 Před měsícem +4

      explains the baldness

  • @mateomossey
    @mateomossey Před měsícem +146

    Usually with these EV startups, the majority of the complaints are about the software and software always has room for improvement. I think that Lucid has huge potential.

  • @jet_black
    @jet_black Před měsícem +337

    I don't drive an EV, but if I did... I'd drive this bad boy.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun Před měsícem +7

      @@user-su1kp7nh7c Ewww yuck no. VW ID4 even good for the price, that's a saturated sector with better options.

    • @thismanagain
      @thismanagain Před měsícem +2

      Same

    • @tonyn3227
      @tonyn3227 Před měsícem +5

      Great, as long as you can afford $130k,

    • @mamotalemankoe3775
      @mamotalemankoe3775 Před měsícem +3

      I have never had a desire to have an EV. I always wanted a 7 series. It was the ideal sedan for me but BMW butchered it so I thought Id just drive a Toyota or whatever, but this, this car might just take the 7 series' place in my heart.

    • @thismanagain
      @thismanagain Před měsícem +3

      @@mamotalemankoe3775 I used to love the 7 when I was a kid, but then they started ruining the design. I'm not even a huge EV fan, but I want a Lucid.

  • @maximeparent3004
    @maximeparent3004 Před měsícem +140

    This is not just a good EV, but a good car as a whole and I love the engineering behind it. Just sad that consumers in this price bracket are high on SUVs.

    • @QuickQuips
      @QuickQuips Před měsícem +2

      Yeah. I've seen a grand touring in CA for just 60k. I'm pretty sure a Lucid will be my next car.

    • @tomtang0514
      @tomtang0514 Před měsícem +8

      Exactly. I sat in one and was blown away by how spacious the backseats are. It was the first time I see a car that's actually better for being an EV, while vast majority of the EV today are still 'trying to be as good as their ICE counterparts'.

    • @Xzibitfreek
      @Xzibitfreek Před 15 dny +1

      @@tomtang0514 i mean this car is 5m long, it better have spacious backseats. 7 seater cars have this same length

  • @ColonelBobfed
    @ColonelBobfed Před měsícem +198

    I never knew I'd be so happy to see proper, cast aluminium suspension without any nonsense in a new car!
    It's so easy to work on when it's 20 years old too, case in point 00s luxury saloons.

    • @brucesuitt993
      @brucesuitt993 Před měsícem +1

      You actually think these cars will last 20 years?

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 Před měsícem +22

      @@brucesuitt993 The car will last twenty years. NOT so sure about the battery pack however.

    • @CrossWindsPat
      @CrossWindsPat Před měsícem +22

      @@brucesuitt993 Why wouldn't it? Battery packs might be down to like 60-70% capacity at that point, but they are probably easy to swap and god knows what kind of energy density will be around in 20 years...

    • @Cassinspace
      @Cassinspace Před měsícem +12

      ​@@CrossWindsPatHow dare you think about technology advancement and innovation. Battery bad!

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Před měsícem +1

      Hope the software holds up that long.

  • @scott8919
    @scott8919 Před měsícem +45

    I hope Lucid sticks around because we need cars like this.

    • @Ahmad_Albassri
      @Ahmad_Albassri Před měsícem +6

      Don’t worry we got Lucid’s back.
      Saudi has invested a lot of money in this company and also made a factory in it.
      Together with the brilliance of those engineers and the money of the saudis this company has a good chance of making it and be the new Tesla.

    • @artiebrown6353
      @artiebrown6353 Před měsícem +2

      @@Ahmad_Albassri I'm hoping Lucid's Saudi factory is a big hit. It's nice to see the Saudi economy start to benefit from these types of investments.

    • @gregdede9855
      @gregdede9855 Před 14 dny

      they better i have one 95 procent satisfied

    • @Ahmad_Albassri
      @Ahmad_Albassri Před 14 dny

      @@artiebrown6353 yeah i hope so

  • @TypeVertigo
    @TypeVertigo Před měsícem +78

    This review felt like a throwback to your older stuff circa 2015 when I first discovered your channel via the 45-minute-long E92 M3 video. Probably because you went solo here. It's a nice change of pace and it feels like reviewing the Lucid Air GT long-termer sparked something in you that took the jadedness away. I guess that's one way I can tell you really liked this car. Greetings from Manila.

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy Před měsícem +8

      I was thinking exactly the same thing. Mark does well with solo longform, that's what got so many of us here in the first place. Reminds me of others like the S2000 series. A wealth of knowledge delivered well.

    • @tskk_NMSL
      @tskk_NMSL Před měsícem

      Yep, had the same feeling

  • @ResumedPausing
    @ResumedPausing Před měsícem +85

    I can hear how much love and enthusiasm you have for the Lucid Air, can't wait to see how they'll bring all this learning to more mass-market models!

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 Před měsícem +4

      Their full size SUV starts shipping later this year. 2026 brings their first mid-size chassis vehicles.

  • @General_M
    @General_M Před měsícem +208

    2:30 metal roof superiority! I honestly hate the glass roof trend, they're heavier than metal, they're more fragile, the heat issue as you mentioned, and I'd be constantly worried about hail storms or rock chips. I don't even want a regular sunroof, the last time I did the heat in the car was unbearable in the summer even with the shade closed.

    • @FentoZ
      @FentoZ Před měsícem +12

      Same

    • @General_M
      @General_M Před měsícem

      @@user-su1kp7nh7c I don't know why hyperbole was determined to be the common way of the internet, but it just makes you look incredibly stupid.

    • @aleksanderolbrych9157
      @aleksanderolbrych9157 Před měsícem +19

      I don't ever want a car without a glass sunroof. For heat in summer you have the AC, and opening the sunroof and windows lets me instantly cool the car in seconds whenever it's too heated up. I never ever want a car again that feels like a dark coffin inside because of no light entering through the roof.

    • @grants169
      @grants169 Před měsícem +15

      @@aleksanderolbrych9157 Every car I've driven with a sunroof, I always keep the shade closed and never use it. I don't care for light shining from the top, there's something disorienting about it. To each his own.

    • @poultrylord7300
      @poultrylord7300 Před měsícem +17

      Only ever had sunroofs break, they're unnecessary and a liability imo.

  • @lucianbakerii7562
    @lucianbakerii7562 Před měsícem +62

    Combined with the earlier deep dive into Lucid, it is beautiful to see this vehicle evolution. Thanks Mark. Great work

  • @isserdigan2835
    @isserdigan2835 Před měsícem +69

    Your assessment is spot on. I have GT4. I love it very much. I take it to the track. But most of the time i found myself driving my Lucid Air Touring. Mine has 20 inch wheels which IMHO has the best tire available for this car. Super comfortable ride. It rides like an S class while driving like an M5. 615 hp and 888 Torque. It is beyond words how this car drives. I am planning to get a GT but now that Lucid added the Heat pump for all the models. I don't see any reason to get one except the Massaging seats which is probably one of the best in the industry. Can't wait for the gravity and their executive seats.

    • @floodo1
      @floodo1 Před měsícem +1

      May I ask your profession?

    • @dr._breens_beard
      @dr._breens_beard Před měsícem +32

      ​@@floodo1he's the ceo of money

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... Před měsícem +3

      20 inch wheels? Comfortable?

    • @foadrightnow5725
      @foadrightnow5725 Před měsícem +1

      @@dr._breens_beard That's a good one!

    • @Canyonero987
      @Canyonero987 Před měsícem +3

      Sounds like something an AI would come up with

  • @russellwickham8334
    @russellwickham8334 Před měsícem +212

    gm needs to drop their oversize Chinese motors and buy motors from Lucid. It would go a long way towards improving the packaging of gm EVs.

    • @tonyn3227
      @tonyn3227 Před měsícem +50

      Gm doesn't care what customers think, they want cheaper stuff, so ceo's can make even bigger bonuses

    • @curtisalex456
      @curtisalex456 Před měsícem +4

      @@tonyn3227 yep!!!!👏👏💯💯

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth Před měsícem +12

      Everyone making EV’s should be buying motors from Lucid. Innovation in the field of motors and batteries would be their business even if they never made another car again.

    • @Nick210
      @Nick210 Před měsícem +1

      Prices would be insane and they probably wouldn’t be able to keep up with demand

    • @CrossWindsPat
      @CrossWindsPat Před měsícem +1

      @@tonyn3227 Capitalism in a nutshell

  • @CharBar07
    @CharBar07 Před měsícem +93

    In the last 12 months, I've seen more Lucid in the Tampa Bay Area. I hope this brand well and to everyone's availability.

    • @sirseriously
      @sirseriously Před měsícem +7

      I've noticed that too, mostly near West Chase area. They're starting to get outnumbered by cyber trucks which is a shame.

    • @chasegaias
      @chasegaias Před měsícem +4

      @@sirseriously So many Cybertrucks in New Tampa....

    • @assaultlick2169
      @assaultlick2169 Před měsícem +2

      Seen a few out in bloomingdale. It's a striking automobile

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem

      Yes nice pile of batteries

    • @assaultlick2169
      @assaultlick2169 Před měsícem +7

      @@user-su1kp7nh7c you're seething all over this comment section 🤣

  • @davidmulligan42
    @davidmulligan42 Před měsícem +32

    Sounds like they're staying on top of things and improving a lot along the way. This is a car I could be happy with.

  • @EnzroGreenidge
    @EnzroGreenidge Před měsícem +22

    I love my 2022 Lucid Air GT. You are correct; this is a great driver's car with some niggles, that I can live with. The software has come a long way, but there are still a couple of issues that need fixing. The key fob and phone has key needs some work. I make excuses to drive. I love this car.

  • @Kranberry777
    @Kranberry777 Před měsícem +11

    I was very fortunate to drive a grand touring, and I feel in love immediately. As a valet at a 5 star hotel and having some rich family members, I've gotten to try a lot of the exciting EVs out there and the Lucid blows all of them out of the water in almost every possible way.

  • @terrytexas8257
    @terrytexas8257 Před měsícem +6

    2022 Air GT owner, I only had two trim errors, and the first service call corrected them. I never had an issue with the response time of the nav system, but honestly I don't use it, I use my phone, like 99% of the world does. The only reason I stopped using my phone as my key is that my office is right next to my garage, and it was locking and unlocking constantly. Other than that I really loved how it performed. Key fob issues...Never had them. Keycard, has come in handy once or twice. The Glass roof was an issue for me heat wise, even after I put 95% Xpel ceramic tint on the glass top. I finally added the roof shades, and that has done the trick and adds a bit of thermal insulation during the colder months. The speaker system isn't just the roof change, My service tech and I identified an assembly error that happened at the factory that has been reported so it doesn't happen again. On the front door panels (where the bass comes from) there is a hole just behind the speaker mount, and they were suppose to seal that hole with metal tape. In my case one had electrical tape, and the other had no tape. Once replaced that "knocking" sound went away, but the performance of the system IMO isn't great. Leg room in the back is extremely nice, and when I have passengers, they love it. I never carry cargo in mine. It is a luxury car / special event outing vehicle only for me, and I will not even take it out in the rain. You are EXACTLY right, I'm in Smooth Mode 99.9% of the time. Range in King, and if you only want that power, go with the one trick pony. I agree with you on the GUI, and the software. There are some very frustrating things that LUCID's team just don't think about. For example, they monitor if someone is sitting in the passengers seat, but only for the airbags, why not monitor for all applications like the massage seats etc...Just like the back, I discovered that if turn off your screens to clean them, it will lock the screens EXCEPT if someone moves to the back seat (like my detailer) then for some odd reason, they do not lock. I also mentioned to Lucid that since they monitor day light for the headlights to come on, then the back sun screen should come down when the lights come on, and if you want it up, then you can turn it back on...seems like a no brainer but no one is thinking about this stuff.
    Final thought, I agree with you all the way. While I drive my Bolt for the miles, or my Truck for work, I look forward to getting behind the wheel of my Air GT. But I learned a long time ago the way to keep a special car special is NOT to drive it everyday. I got mine Jan. 5th 2023, and to date, I have just over 5000 miles on it. It still has the new car smell, and each and everytime I drive it, it feels special.
    Good Video, take care and good luck!

  • @calr4459
    @calr4459 Před měsícem +72

    The Lucid is truly an aspirational EV. Style, Luxury and range. The Lucid makes me want to stop my $1200 social security checks and get back into the job market for that 200k per year job I’ve always strived for?

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem

      @@calr4459 you should quit smoking dope first billy

    • @johnlee5307
      @johnlee5307 Před měsícem

      you can lease for $600 per month

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu Před měsícem +3

      If you're making $1200 on SS, you never made close to 200k

    • @calr4459
      @calr4459 Před měsícem

      @@weirdshibainu The SS and $200K per annum were fiction. I did have a casino slot win in 2022 that would have allowed the ever popular “cash” purchase. Fact.

    • @calr4459
      @calr4459 Před měsícem

      @@johnlee5307 that’s why 77% of BMWs are leased.

  • @blakespringpasturemortimer9168
    @blakespringpasturemortimer9168 Před měsícem +27

    I've been buying premium performance cars (mostly German) for almost fifty years and am now on our second Tesla (a 2021 Model S Plaid that replaced a 2015 P90D). The Lucid Air Dream Performance on which we took delivery in December 2021 remans the finest balance of power, handling, ride, room, features, and structural solidity I've ever owned. I lived through the software teething issues of the first two years, and there were rough moments on that front I'd rather forget. But the car itself was and remains an automotive engineering marvel.
    I'm pretty sure the Air will stay in our garage longer than any other car I've owned. Just as the reviewer here, it is a car I literally pine to be driving when I find myself behind the wheel of anything else, the Model S Plaid included. And we're chomping at the bit to get in line for the Gravity Dream Edition SUV that is due later this year. It is the first EV candidate I view as a suitable replacement for our Odyssey minivan as a group hauler for elderly friends.

    • @TheSalPic
      @TheSalPic Před měsícem +1

      Your garage is a Plaid, Air, and odyssey? That's AWESOME.

    • @Roy-AlWildNinja
      @Roy-AlWildNinja Před 11 dny

      What are some strengths where the model S plaid is better and where the lucid air dream performance is better?

    • @blakespringpasturemortimer9168
      @blakespringpasturemortimer9168 Před 11 dny +1

      @@Roy-AlWildNinja I'll start with the non-software elements.
      The Plaid accelerates a bit faster off the line. However, its front end comes loose more easily than the Lucid's, making the Lucid's power a bit more usable. In pretty much every other non-software aspect, the Lucid pretty much trounces the Plaid.
      The Lucid interior is quieter and much roomier. With the driver seat in each car set to my preferred driving position, there is 9.5" more fore/aft legroom in the rear seat of the Air than in the Plaid. (We invariably take the Air when carrying rear-seat passengers.). The more pronounced scooping out of the door panels makes for more interior width in the Air. The materials in the Air are much nicer, both in look and tactile feel.
      By 10,000 miles the Plaid had developed squeaks and groans in its rear quarters. With over 25,000 miles now on the Air, it remains rock solid.
      The interior and exterior fit and finish of the Air is considerably better, and the Air was delivered with fewer initial quality problems than the Plaid.
      Now . . . the software. Although our Tesla software has not been entirely problem-free (the key fob still will not consistently open or start the car), the first 10 months with the Lucid was software hell: slow, constant glitching, features randomly becoming inoperable. However, Lucid turned the corner with UX 2.0 which came along in October 2022. The frequent OTA updates since then have now fixed almost all the software issues. I view software as just an element of the overall operating controls of a car. With Lucid's better use of physical switchgear for turn signaling, vent and temperature adjustment, passenger audio controls, I now find the Air an easier car to operate than the Plaid.
      The Air still inexplicably lacks the sentry mode of the Tesla. On the other hand, it has several useful software features lacking in the Tesla: birds-eye-view display, ability to read a USB music stick, CarPlay, dual satellite maps that allow simultaneous zoom-in and zoom-out views and different compass orientations. (It also has some nice hardware features lacking in the Tesla, such as motorized shades for the rear window and rear passenger side windows, great seat massagers, and much more adjustable front seats that extend thigh supports, adjust shoulder bolster widths, etc.)
      I never use ADAS systems in any of our cars, as I love to drive even on long trips. However, this is the one area where Tesla still holds a clear lead on Lucid -- even knowing FSD is more hype than delivery. Lucid has the camera and hardware suite to deliver Level 3 ADAS, but its software is not yet up to Level 2 requirements (although they say that's coming soon through an OTA update).

  • @2006gtobob
    @2006gtobob Před měsícem +12

    In Casa Grande, Arizona, where the car is made, my wife and I just couldn't fathom the thought of an all glass roof. A traditional roof and windshield is the ONLY way to go. The roads of Az are horrible and we have to regularly replace windshields, I don't ever want to think of how much that would set my insurance company back, 2x a year. And, of course, the insane thermal load is no longer a concern.
    The updates and improvements were needed. This is the FIRST car they made, all made from scratch and it was a home run. It appears this updated car is a Grand Slam home run.

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech Před měsícem +20

    Great long term review. Now if they would just bring their lease deals to my state. Good to hear they isolated the front motor. When I had a chance to drive one that was definitely something I noticed and thought didn’t fit the car.

  • @MitchellWeatherly
    @MitchellWeatherly Před měsícem +31

    Mark, this video is a far cry from the roots of this channel posting videos about modifying an FR-S for track use. Did you ever think you'd be driving a car like this because of this channel? Pretty cool I'd say.

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem +2

      @@MitchellWeatherly sorry i was drunk last night

  • @ryancox4213
    @ryancox4213 Před měsícem +3

    I bought this car primarily because of the videos here. Have been an owner for 4 months now and have 0 regrets. The engineering and thought that went into this car is top notch and best in class. Having owned recent BMW i cars and the opportunity to autocross the BMW i cars and Tesla lineup, this car feels so much more connected than any EV I have driven. It deserves recognition for that and I’m glad that you are pointing that out. 100% a believer in the brand now and looking forward to more great cars in the future if they can fix their financials.

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN Před měsícem +28

    "if you want to drive like a dick ..." That's probably the best summarization of super "sporty" driving on everyday roads that I've ever heard of. We've all done it, and anyone with any self-awareness knows that it's almost always a dick move.
    Joke's aside, I've always been very curious about this car, but really more nervous about whether the company would stick around to be able to service them. This is definitely one to consider for the next vehicle.

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 Před měsícem +8

      The stories about "Lucid going broke" are fostered by and aimed at fans of that certain other brand whose fans flood comment sections. Lucid is owned and controlled by a trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund that is working to build a 'green' industrial portfolio. They have the resources to do long term planning.

    • @jamied9448
      @jamied9448 Před měsícem +4

      It's my first EV I've owned (driven a few including Tesla prior). OMG is it amazing. Feels like what a 5 series should feel like, with added comfort of an E-class

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN Před měsícem +2

      @@Miata822 I was actually more concerned when they had to go back to the Middle East for more funding last year as they had chewed thru their initial funding round. That was not super encouraging.
      For some, further supporting the rich M.E. oil families may not be so attractive either, due to their humanitarian records, but that's more of a personal values thing.

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 Před měsícem

      @@falxonPSN It is common for startups to have a number of funding rounds. Issuing new shares is how corporations grow. Tesla last raised new funding in 2019, 9 years after their IPO. Factories are expensive. The Saudi PIF owns 65% of the LCID shares and is all but certain to buy that percentage of future issues. Lucid is likely to need between 1-2 billion per year through 2028 (my estimate) to build out their target global manufacturing capability and product line and reach self sustaining cash flow. For myself, I'm thrilled to see the Saudi oil giant pivot toward "Green" industries as they diversify their domestic economy away from dependance on oil. Lucid is just one part of their sweeping Vision2030 plan. As it stands today they are funding us, not the other way around.

  • @thatoneotherotherguy
    @thatoneotherotherguy Před měsícem +5

    I really hope Lucid succeeds. Good to see solid tweaks for 2025. Standard heat pump even on the RWD cars is very nice to have. We're at the point where ANY brand new EV coming out should have a standard heat pump--it's too much of a range hit to exclude it. Would love to see a price cut on these cars, $71,400 is still a lot of money, although it's much better value than opting to buy a base Taycan.
    Since America arbitrarily demands SUVs now, the Gravity could prove to be a cash cow for them. Can't come soon enough, and hopefully every lesson they've learned from the Air gets baked into the Gravity for an amazing experience.

  • @craig_s
    @craig_s Před měsícem +6

    Mark, thank you for putting this video together! Lucid is at the top of my list for daily driver replacements, your (+B58 Business Jack) thoughts and ownership overviews are unmatched on CZcams.
    For the Lucid team reviewing these comments:
    - PLEASE MAKE A WAGON, I WILL BUY IT

  • @cinthe3
    @cinthe3 Před měsícem +23

    Good morning geese! I'd love to spend some time in a lucid. One of the best looking modern sedans.

  • @Bradimus1
    @Bradimus1 Před měsícem +15

    I love these and see one around town. It looks so much better than a Tesla to me.

    • @donstaramos
      @donstaramos Před měsícem

      These are so much uglier than a Model S. Please

  • @SuperSmoovy
    @SuperSmoovy Před měsícem +5

    I was lucky enough to test drive one last year and man this thing is so fun and smooth. I couldnt stop laughing while driving. Ive never driven a car that accelerates like this did. One thing I can say is that the back seat leg room is huge!!

  • @Skcereal
    @Skcereal Před měsícem +4

    Hey Mark, long time viewer, just wanted to say thank you for making these videos. It was because of your Lucid videos that made me test drive and eventually purchase a 2023 pure earlier this year. I am in love with the car and I have to say I resonate with everything you talked about in this latest video. Looking forward to your next series of videos!

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 Před měsícem +5

    Yep. In my early '22 Air GT the little bothers have been resolved, largely by OTA updates. It truly is a driver's car and a pure joy to live with. Thrilled to hear that I can upgrade the processor and memory but I feel no pressing need to do that today. It all just works.

  • @khoadinh4120
    @khoadinh4120 Před měsícem +7

    That suspension setup right there is an art work.

  • @renReee
    @renReee Před měsícem +5

    We picked up a 2023 Lucid Air Pure AWD in April and have loved it. My wife even says it’s her favorite car that she’s driven so far and is looking forward to the Gravity.
    There’s a lot of growing pains, primarily the infotainment, but there have been meaningful improvements with each software upgrade. The key fob has been the biggest pain point due to latency between walking up and having the car unlock. Overall, it has been a blast to drive.

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem

      @@renReee NPC

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus Před měsícem

      @@user-su1kp7nh7c Someone named user-randomcharacterstring calling someone else an NPC is peak comedy.

  • @ReasonX3
    @ReasonX3 Před měsícem +5

    It's just crazy to live in a time when an American EV company make a more engaging and driver oriented cars then BMW does.

  • @loums52
    @loums52 Před měsícem +4

    Your reviews of the Lucid line was a big factor in my switching from the Tesla Model Y to the Air Pure (I also previously had a 2015 Model S). The software is not as mature as the Tesla but I knew that going in BUT in all other respects I agree that the driving experience and quiet luxury is much better than any other car I have driven. There is now no other car I would consider in the EV luxury sports sedan line. I looked at BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, and the other players, including the Model S and all of them could not compare with the mileage, fit and finish, trunk and frunk capacity, and styling. I do not need a crossover or SUV and this car is absolutely wonderful for a pure driving experience (no pun intended). Thanks again for a thorough review.

  • @Landez97
    @Landez97 Před měsícem +2

    I know it's common to jokingly comment, 'I can't wait to buy one used in 5 years', but I genuinely want one of these someday. Your videos have shown me just how good of a product these have become. It'd be the perfect daily

  • @cyberhard
    @cyberhard Před měsícem +6

    I'll be very interested in your Gravity review.

  • @BakerStudiosIndy
    @BakerStudiosIndy Před měsícem +8

    From what I can see, Lucid and Rivian really lead the market in quality overall as well as customer experience. And really, styling as well. The Lucid is one of the most striking vehicles I've ever seen.

    • @SHO1989
      @SHO1989 Před měsícem +2

      Agreed. In my ideal world Lucid and Rivian would somehow merge so they could share some synergies that might make them more efficient and more competitive and hopefully be able to stick around for the long haul. Would be a nice merger and that way Lucid could make the cars and Rivian make the sedans and maybe some super high end SUVs.

  • @g60corrado91
    @g60corrado91 Před měsícem +3

    Mark, with this being a long term series, can you discuss some of the costs of ownership, namely insurance? I know that’s been a pain point with some cars and SUVs lately and not just EV’s. I know it largely depends on where you live and your age/driving history. But it’d still be helpful to compare to your other vehicles prices.

  • @kurtstephan7039
    @kurtstephan7039 Před měsícem +2

    I can't currently afford a Lucid Air and am not ready to make the switch to an EV anyway, but Savagegeese's enthusiasm for this company's cars means it's the brand I'll look at first down the road, when prices drop and battery technology and the charging infrastructure improves. Thanks, Mark and Jack, for all you do in providing meaningful and helpful consumer information about the current car market.

  • @SmartMart1658
    @SmartMart1658 Před měsícem +3

    Great review. Great car. Can't wait to see the Lucid Gravity hit the roads later this year.

  • @chrisrepz1022
    @chrisrepz1022 Před měsícem +20

    Lets go Lucid. The future in motion

  • @blablah538
    @blablah538 Před měsícem +3

    Lucid stole a lifetime BMW customer. We have the 2024 Touring but have driven all other trims and years besides the Sapphire. All have driven perfectly and are way more engaging than you would expect. Great balance and responsiveness while maintaining a smoothness that next snapping competitors don't. The i5 competitor is actually slower, but is so much less smooth that you're going to make all your passengers vomit for the first month while you get your bearings. The Lucid bodywork team needs to work on fit and finish and the interior team needs to work on squeaks and rattles, but service is happy to give you a Dream/GT loaner and spend a week hunting for solutions to your problems. The list of shit I gave them at the beginning to fix was unbelievable and they didn't complain for a bit. Just to make sure you identify what to fix and they will fix it. Oddly, they don't do that for their loaner cars, so things are a little visually wonky sometimes. So far though, they have not tried nickling and diming like BMW. Happy customers. The most annoying thing about the car is that every time I talk to a Tesla friend, they bring up what a non-handling, rattling shit box their Tesla is. It gets old

  • @joelcleare
    @joelcleare Před měsícem +8

    Wish Lexus made an electric LS that looked exactly like the Lucid.

  • @dougshugarts3105
    @dougshugarts3105 Před měsícem +5

    I live nowhere near a Lucid dealer so I'm wondering if I could get this car serviced by mechanics who aren't experienced with the brand or most EVs in general. As always, I love the conept of owning an EV.

  • @Affalterbach1967
    @Affalterbach1967 Před měsícem +12

    5:10 introvert cars and coffee mode, sitting inside with AC running.

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth Před měsícem

      Parking Lot Creep Mode. The shopping plazas are full of them.

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. Před měsícem +5

    I saw a Ludic Air on my way to work yesterday. It looked so cool. I live in New Zealand and they do not sell them here yet so this must've just been a test vehicle.

    • @snuew
      @snuew Před 7 dny

      Where abouts a in NZ did you see it? Might be here for winter testing.

    • @The.JZA.
      @The.JZA. Před 7 dny

      @@snuew Wanaka. Yeah it likely is. Looked really cool. I drove behind it for a while.

  • @ox9307
    @ox9307 Před 2 dny

    Lucid needs to survive! The passion the company has is unmatched.

  • @jcat96
    @jcat96 Před měsícem +13

    The fact that you can get a base model for like $65 after tax and you get 400+ miles makes me super excited when they get into the $30s used lol

    • @davidditzler2704
      @davidditzler2704 Před měsícem

      Until then, just lease one for

    • @mr.butterworth
      @mr.butterworth Před měsícem

      When you get into EV’s used, then you have to begin thinking about remaining battery lifespan and replacement cost. That is one of the big faults that keeps EV’s from actually being legitimately “green”.

    • @thatoneotherotherguy
      @thatoneotherotherguy Před měsícem +5

      @@mr.butterworth depends. Most EV batteries will go the lifetime of the car without needing replacement, that's an unfounded irrational boogeyman. You're FAR more likely to plunk down $5-20k on a replacement ICE engine/transmission than touch an EV battery.
      Even if one is still super worried about battery, you could always buy a 2 year old example and then dump it on year 8 when the long battery warranty runs out.

  • @jamalcruz9967
    @jamalcruz9967 Před měsícem +405

    Lucid is cooler, then tesla.

    • @sirseriously
      @sirseriously Před měsícem +28

      100%, but you can't get a lucid for $15k yet.

    • @realme4107
      @realme4107 Před měsícem +38

      @@sirseriouslycan’t get a Tesla for that either but ok

    • @jamalcruz9967
      @jamalcruz9967 Před měsícem +2

      @@sirseriously it's too new for that

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur Před měsícem +12

      @@realme4107 Might be able to get a Hertz special for that*
      *that's been through hundreds of rental customers and also looks and drives like it has.

    • @mtnman1984
      @mtnman1984 Před měsícem +11

      ​@@sirseriouslywhat kind of Model S are you getting for that money?😂

  • @grandpadre8811
    @grandpadre8811 Před měsícem +11

    Lucid is a great car. It's pricing is too high for most Americans.

    • @faheemabbas3965
      @faheemabbas3965 Před měsícem +4

      EVs are too expensive to “save the world”

    • @aldente_rice
      @aldente_rice Před měsícem

      That's true, but I believe Tesla was expensive when they started with just the Model X and S and then eventually they got to the 3 and Y which are at least half the price of the flagship models.
      So there is some hope as Lucid progresses

    • @robertide5182
      @robertide5182 Před měsícem

      @@aldente_riceTesla didn’t have to compete with Chinese companies or a preexisting Tesla.

    • @robertide5182
      @robertide5182 Před měsícem

      @@faheemabbas3965Model 3 and Model Y are competitive in their class compared to other new cars.

  • @TheJoker-qn6vw
    @TheJoker-qn6vw Před měsícem +1

    Once i saw how BMW & Mercedes just lost the plot on their electric limousines, it was an automatic decision to switch to Lucid...quiet, smooth, classy design, spacious and damn fast, all in one package. This is the jackpot for those who want electric vehicle perfection.

  • @anthonygianfrancesco6548
    @anthonygianfrancesco6548 Před měsícem +4

    Thank you, Mark, for all the hard work you put into your videos.

  • @SHO1989
    @SHO1989 Před měsícem +2

    I really hope Lucid can stick around for the long term and get profitable. Besides the upcoming SUV, I'd love to see them do a smaller sedan in the BMW 1 or 3 series size range.

  • @aussie2uGA
    @aussie2uGA Před měsícem +31

    Cmon Saudi money - keep Lucid lucid!

    • @markcoopers1930
      @markcoopers1930 Před měsícem +4

      We don't seem to care how many sports/entertainment organizations they've bought or non-controlling stake investments they've scooped up in most companies here in the US. I don't see what all the fuss is about, seems like a double standard.

    • @FOne_Fan
      @FOne_Fan Před měsícem +4

      Got bad news, their money is in everything

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před měsícem

      Without Saudi money Lucid wouldn't even be alive 😂

    • @mohammeda9805
      @mohammeda9805 Před 14 dny

      You do realize Saudi money is everywhere in the world not just the USA 🇺🇸
      Saudi investment is in everything everywhere

  • @DoubleOSevan
    @DoubleOSevan Před měsícem +2

    As a driving enthusiast, Lucid’s existence brings solace in knowing not all is lost in an all-electric future.

  • @steelerStr8Talk
    @steelerStr8Talk Před měsícem +4

    Just Subcribed as I just bought the 2024 Lucid Air Pure! Thx for the videos

  • @OldRustySteele
    @OldRustySteele Před měsícem +1

    My wife’s boyfriend worries about his “range anxiety”. It’s only like 45 seconds.

  • @andrewdean7182
    @andrewdean7182 Před měsícem +3

    If I could have any car, I would pick a Lucid Air ❤

  • @shiftsgiggles962
    @shiftsgiggles962 Před 20 dny +1

    Bought the '25 Ioniq 5 N. F me! Love it. My first ever EV, but I am learning it does a lot of the quality, fit & finish, space, and performance very well. A huge fan of USA brands. Chased Lucid early on, but the negative Lucid reviews prevented me from moving forward. Same with Tesla. So, as a performance oriented buyer, the Ioniq N got my money. Now I just need more range Thanks for reviewing the Lucid improvement highlights. Love the brand and positive future. Moving into a company car sales role with mileage reimbursement, the long range of the Lucid is appealing. I can't lease due to miles driven per year (25,000). Would you consider a Lucid for rural America sales territory at .67/mile reimbursement? Have to ask you about the Genesis G90 or G80 for same use. Love your work. Thanks.

  • @benda18
    @benda18 Před měsícem +3

    3.7 miles per kwh is really good especially for a vehicle this size with this kind of performance.

  • @chris_flies
    @chris_flies Před měsícem +1

    I hope Lucid will trickle this level of engineering excellence down to smaller, more affordable cars like VAG used to do under Piech. A Golf or Civic-sized car with this packaging and driving experience would be refreshing.

  • @jakesykes218
    @jakesykes218 Před měsícem +9

    Glad to see you’re partaking in brat summer Mark haha 6:05

  • @spdcrzy
    @spdcrzy Před měsícem +1

    I can't wait until I can afford an Air. It honestly feels like there really isn't a better option in the sedan space anymore.

  • @Armour783
    @Armour783 Před měsícem +5

    For reference, it has the interior dimensions of an S class while having the exterior dimensions of an E class. Truly remarkable packaging.

    • @tm55555
      @tm55555 Před měsícem

      Not really, it's huge and it just shows how oversized the new Benz cars are.

    • @Armour783
      @Armour783 Před měsícem

      @@tm55555 Overall dimensions have nothing to do with my comment. I was referring to their efficient packaging only. Imagine if Lucid designed a small compact car with the exterior dimensions of an MB A class but with the interior volume of the MB C class.

  • @coscorrodrift
    @coscorrodrift Před měsícem +1

    This was the car i'd told myself i'd daily if i was properly rich (i even have classified ad alerts for the units that pop up here in europe lol), and you just confirmed it to me. The Rolls Spectre is too extravagant and "wasteful" for my taste, this feels like the right equilibrium between "let's make the best car we can" having practical considerations like packaging etc in mind.

  • @paulpellico3797
    @paulpellico3797 Před měsícem +6

    sunroofs, like all leather seating, took over.
    i really miss the softer, longer-lasting cloth seats.
    ALL my leather seated cars have cracking and wearing that is obvious and to costly ro repair.
    spend all those 4 k oil expensive synthetic changes only to be left with solid engines and cracked leather seating.

  • @Tifosi5716
    @Tifosi5716 Před měsícem +1

    Love the comments that “regardless of ICE or EV, they need to be a GOOD CAR from the first place”

  • @BlameGamerOfficial
    @BlameGamerOfficial Před měsícem +4

    Great, any chance you guys will get the E-Class soon?

  • @lionevil1976
    @lionevil1976 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks to this video, I'm considering buying a Lucid this year.

  • @polo3433
    @polo3433 Před měsícem +5

    3:45 Dude said 3rd Ex wife. ☠

  • @Top5Depot
    @Top5Depot Před 8 dny

    VERY INTERESTING. I just looked at their website, and their current offers are actually pretty good on leases. Considering they're taking care of the maintenance and everything else, it's pretty attractive. I might actually consider this as my very first electric car! Range has always been my biggest fear. But that is NOT a problem here.

  • @jazzjokesjalopies
    @jazzjokesjalopies Před měsícem +3

    Thanks for the lucid thoughts.🎉

  • @suzakukururugi6613
    @suzakukururugi6613 Před měsícem +1

    I really highly considered this car, but due to several factors (already having a GX460, the pricing, the standard trim not having the cameras as standard, the size and weight for a simple daily, and questionable charging network (since I live in an apartment in CA) and can’t afford a home. I went with a Model 3 Performance. Maybe in the future when battery tech improves and weight is lighter and the cost is cheaper!

  • @luispardo3323
    @luispardo3323 Před měsícem +3

    Superb! U have me Sold!!!

  • @samsharma1158
    @samsharma1158 Před měsícem +1

    I drive an i5 but I really want this car’s 3.0 version in 2 years. The more I see it, the more I like it and now it has Mark’s approval. Pretty much sold on it at this point!

  • @chrisniswonger
    @chrisniswonger Před měsícem +3

    I feel the same way about the new Accord hybrid. It's the car I want to be in 99% of the time. Crazy smooth, quite, comfortable, 50mpg, all around $30k.

  • @OptimumSlinky
    @OptimumSlinky Před měsícem +1

    I’m glad to hear Mark talk about what a game changer EVs are for daily drivers. I picked up a CPO Polestar 2 earlier this year, and while I’d still love an MX-5 or CPO Boxter for summer back road drives, I will NEVER go back to an ICE car as my daily driver.

  • @oldretireddude
    @oldretireddude Před měsícem +3

    How good (or bad) will the 2wd/rwd version be in wintery mix conditions? I would prefer this myself but that's a very heavy car if stuck at a street approach in the snow or ice.

  • @whynotthinkwhynot-
    @whynotthinkwhynot- Před měsícem +1

    ❤ Lucid ❤
    I drive a Bolt EUV to work- purely a work taxi, but I want a Lucid Air Pure RWD for my next EV- thanks Mark and Jack for introducing an old driver to the best EV🤘for drivers!!!

  • @tuckerhiggins4336
    @tuckerhiggins4336 Před měsícem +30

    Dang, why doesn't someone put this much effort into an ice vehicle

    • @ExecuteBrandon
      @ExecuteBrandon Před měsícem +4

      Why? You want door handles with bugs in them? 😂

    • @tuckerhiggins4336
      @tuckerhiggins4336 Před měsícem +6

      @@ExecuteBrandon I prefer vegetables in my door handles honestly

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 Před měsícem +1

      Mercedes W123 (1975-86 E Class)

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 Před měsícem

      Because it’s like connecting your iPhone to a typewriter. Not even worth the laugh.

    • @ouch9326
      @ouch9326 Před měsícem

      i think porsche does that, lucid got some porsche people in them

  • @The_Noticer.
    @The_Noticer. Před měsícem +2

    That is one stunning looking sedan.

  • @josephseverino674
    @josephseverino674 Před 15 dny

    There's much to admire about the LUCID thoughtful engineering,no car is perfect, i may not be able too afford one, but if icould i would buy one.Anyone would have to admit, its unique, good looking and its also american made TESLA has a serious competition.Also that's worthwhile mentioning LUCID has a excellent CZcams video about how electric vehicles function. Great video 👍

  • @AlanCath
    @AlanCath Před měsícem +3

    The front motor whine is gone? Really? This is my biggest complaint with my 2023 AGT. Can those new motor mounts be retrofitted, like the ECU you mentioned? Sounds too good to be true. I'm calling my Lucid store today - on both issues.

    • @vipermoon_
      @vipermoon_ Před měsícem +1

      Wondering this too

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před měsícem +1

      Its not gone, its just reduced the point of not creating a nasty resonance anymore. Before at certains speeds it would amplify and just grate on your ears. Now it mostly fades in background. I was told its front motor mounts. Not sure if it was anything else.

  • @ruftime
    @ruftime Před měsícem +2

    Thank you!
    I’m sure it’s a great “free” car😁
    Greetings from SoCal……surrounded by thousand of Tesla 🥰

  • @Brian-or2jy
    @Brian-or2jy Před měsícem +12

    I really like what Lucid is doing. Call me in 5-8 years when they have a compact liftback sedan/crossover.

    • @seanplace8192
      @seanplace8192 Před měsícem +1

      They're already starting production of the "Gravity", which is an SUV/crossover version of the Air. It's not on sale yet, but will be soon.

    • @user-su1kp7nh7c
      @user-su1kp7nh7c Před měsícem

      Give me your phone number

    • @LLG47
      @LLG47 Před měsícem

      You can have all the same practicality with none of the cool which sounds like a great deal especially since you'll probably pay more.

  • @user-yz5el3yd5y
    @user-yz5el3yd5y Před měsícem

    Lucid is amazing! I had a chance to test-drive it several times, and every time I was amazed by high-quality of the interior and chassis settings. If only it could be about $10k cheaper...

  • @raidersamson3356
    @raidersamson3356 Před měsícem +5

    Holy crap, you are a good salesman!

  • @magnesium_subsoil_94
    @magnesium_subsoil_94 Před měsícem +1

    The retrofitting thing I’ve been wondering why so many don’t do that. That’s great news!

  • @Veritas419
    @Veritas419 Před měsícem +4

    An “American” car company with Korean batteries, owned by Saudi Arabia, Black Rock, and Vanguard. Where do I sign up?

  • @legacy404
    @legacy404 Před měsícem

    Been an enthusiast and love my ICE's, but my next car is definitely going to be an EV. Theres no denying the superiority of EVs for everyday driving for the vast majority of trips. No more filling up at gas stations, no more maintenance, oil/filter/fluid changes,. You can bet that the vast majority of working people arent on top of maintenance for their ICE's or want to deal with costly repairs.
    My thing when it comes to the Lucid Air and these kind of EVs though is price. You spend 70k$ on a sedan, youre looking for something thats gonna feel special, whether its a badge/prestige, or driving emotion/experience. For good A-B transportation, which is what an EV is, i feel like it would succeed at the $50k mark. 70k is way too much for just A to B transportation. Not to mention it probably wont be collectible or hold value over time.
    Not to mention you can get a lot of value in the used EV market.

  • @samikamal1
    @samikamal1 Před měsícem +8

    TOGETHER AS ONE LUCID 🏆🏁FAMILY♥️ ADDING ON AND HOLDING STRONG GOONIES NEVER SAY DIE!🙋‍♂️♥️🥳🥳🥳🎇🎆🎇🎆🙌💎💎💎💎

  • @ladislaualbert2807
    @ladislaualbert2807 Před měsícem +1

    Seems like such a great car, company- don’t really understand why stocks are doing soooo poorly and why more stores haven’t opened up.
    I hope they keep expanding and eventually make some smaller sedans and SUVs ( the Gravity looks promising but still too big for my needs) like 3 series or Macan size.

  • @ducktails1695
    @ducktails1695 Před měsícem

    Looks fantastic! I hope other manufacturers take notes from this and start making good EV cars . If these weren’t so expensive I’d consider one.

  • @lexwaldez
    @lexwaldez Před měsícem

    It almost feels like a limo in the backseat and I'm a huge guy. I love the Air. I hope Lucid makes it work.

  • @joey86bu1
    @joey86bu1 Před měsícem

    Love the infotainment set up.
    Unlike most companies, they put more than 5 minutes into planning and setting it up.

  • @entertained...
    @entertained... Před měsícem +1

    If they made a slightly more expensive competitor to the Model 3, I'd get one in a heartbeat.

  • @DonaldHawk
    @DonaldHawk Před 10 dny

    I'm on my second Porsche Taycan but willing to try a Lucid with these improvements.