Will an electric fat bike become my new favourite winter urban commuter?

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  • čas přidán 25. 02. 2021
  • I long considered using a fat bike for my winter bike commute, but determined, over the years, that it wasn't quite right for me. It could never quite beat my chosen perfect winter bike, a rust-resisting, studded-tire, aluminium-framed, internal-geared, skinny-tire commuter bike. But the growth of electric fat bikes has me wondering if that pedal-assist motor is the thing that will push this bike onto the top of my winter favourites list?
    My existing favourite winter bike, a Priority Continuum Onyx (affiliate link): bit.ly/2PhqUqF
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Komentáře • 252

  • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
    @EmpedoclesdeTebas Před 3 lety +83

    I have owned a fat ebike for 3 years and I love it. It came with fenders, lights and rack from the factory. It isn't a 6k but a 2k bike with 9 levels of pedal assist.
    I agree with your comments about potential corrosion and parking outside. I worry about that.

    • @n3m0k54
      @n3m0k54 Před 2 lety +9

      Would you mind sharing what model it is? I'm currently searching possible options for fat ebike.

    • @mmmmmMuffinz
      @mmmmmMuffinz Před 2 lety +5

      what make and model is the bike you got ? 2k is my max price limit

    • @dawpps
      @dawpps Před 2 lety +5

      does your battery still work? My battery crapped out after less than 2 years, and I can’t get a replacement. Apparently the batteries only last 2-4 years and the cold damages them.

    • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
      @EmpedoclesdeTebas Před 2 lety +6

      @@n3m0k54 Voltbike Yukon750

    • @EmpedoclesdeTebas
      @EmpedoclesdeTebas Před 2 lety +5

      @@dawpps my battery is still good but I don't use the bike every day.

  • @Emphassim
    @Emphassim Před 3 lety +34

    I was lucky to find a fatbike on a great clearance sale a couple years ago and converted it to a single speed for my winter commute. It's really slow but my route has very unpredictable conditions and it's nice to know the bike can handle everything with confidence. A plus side of the noisy tires is you don't need to ring a bell very often because people hear you coming from a long way off.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +5

      These are good points. Glad you found a machine that works for you!

    • @shakibs1002
      @shakibs1002 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you. That makes me confident so I want to get one now

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shifter_Cycling what do you think about tern bikes in urban/city riding? They are easy to put in small places but I wonder how the ride is vs other city bikes. Wonder how much of a difference between them

  • @mollygarner9562
    @mollygarner9562 Před 3 lety +34

    My daily commuter/grocery getter is an ebike with 2.3 inch wheels (2.1 for my studded set). It’s a great way to get around. I can vary the level of assist by percentage so I definitely get a good workout without getting TOO sweaty on my way to work. Road chemicals haven’t been an issue yet. I’m also able to take the bike into the office with me so theft isn’t an issue. Ebikes really open up the road to folks who would otherwise jump in their car to get to work.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +3

      I agree that it can be a good alternative to a car - sometime these decisions aren’t between different styles of bikes, it’s between a bike or a car. In that case, I say use whatever bike works for you!

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Před rokem +1

      Yeah they're trying to bring 1 down both arms for the tail

  • @Lucaslfm1
    @Lucaslfm1 Před 3 lety +54

    You touched the main point there. Bike theft. If you have trouble with this in FUCKING CANADA, just imagine us, mere mortals, living in the 3rd world. I tried really hard, but after having 2 bikes stolen, I tried to go for an Electric Unicycle, which can be taken inside wherever I go. The problem is these things are not as stable as a bike, so I fell really bad one time, and now I'm back to the car, and I'm going to stick to it. The upside of this journey is that every time I'm stuck in traffic now, instead of getting mad and impatient, I'll remember the alternatives and be glad that at least I'll get to my destination safely and clean.
    All my love and admiration for all bike commute warriors out there.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +26

      I don’t think there’s a city in the modern world where bike theft is not a problem, and it has real-world implications like this. Thanks for sharing.

    • @shimes424
      @shimes424 Před 3 lety +12

      I'm surprised e-bikes don't come with GPS locators built in. All you'd need is a sim card / data plan ($10/mo with verizon) for it and you could know where your $5000 bike is at all times
      If done at the factory, they could integrate it into the frame (controllers are too cheap and easily ripped off to hide GPS)
      Makes me want to start my own ebike company; do ebikes better than those paper-pushing money-changers

    • @Minecraftrok999
      @Minecraftrok999 Před 3 lety +10

      @@shimes424 because insurance can actually be cheaper than a standalone GPS Bike tracker + plan.
      In some instances a lot cheaper.
      Heck, I pay 80€ insurance a year for my 3000€ Pedelec and it covers theft (bike is even covered when I just lock the wheel and grand together without an external) as well as necessary repairs and even chains, cassettes, tires when they wear out.
      They even pay my cab when I get stranded somewhere.
      Why should I pay more for a GPS Tracker than for all this plus some?

    • @jhowardsupporter
      @jhowardsupporter Před 3 lety +4

      Just get a proper lock.

    • @jhowardsupporter
      @jhowardsupporter Před 3 lety +1

      @@shimes424 5 grand??? What kind of ebikes you guys been buying? Put in another 5 and get an e-motorcycle.

  • @frozengoose
    @frozengoose Před rokem +22

    Great video. I’ve moved to an electric fat bike for commuting here in the Yukon Territory. Hasn’t let me down in any temperature and it’ll go as cold as I’m willing to ride in. -15 last winter and have been pushing -22 this winter. I ride about a 20km commute everyday.

    • @seanskywalka5172
      @seanskywalka5172 Před měsícem

      Battery life decreases as temp goes down right? Have u noticed that?

  • @dant.6364
    @dant.6364 Před 3 lety +23

    Really enjoy the vibe of this channel, and that he is not trying to sell me anything like 99% of the rest of bicycle youtube lol.

    • @r__b6095
      @r__b6095 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah really good point

  • @superimposedtab
    @superimposedtab Před 2 lety +7

    I live in Wyoming and my sole form of transportation is a 1000w AWD ebike. Having that pedal assist & duel hub moters is a game-changer for hauling my cargo trailer for groceries as well as dealing with wind and weather.

    • @mmmmmMuffinz
      @mmmmmMuffinz Před 2 lety +3

      model ?

    • @superimposedtab
      @superimposedtab Před 2 lety +3

      @@mmmmmMuffinz ,
      its a Super Monarch by E-Cells

    • @HISEROD
      @HISEROD Před 9 měsíci

      hey there, mind if I ask how the batteries have held up against cold (or hot) temperatures? @@superimposedtab

  • @johndent8813
    @johndent8813 Před 3 lety +4

    I totally love riding m yBosch powered Haibike Fat 6 in the snow. And, yes, I've fitted with with a rack, lights and mudguards....

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +2

      Great to hear. Do you feel it’s a convenient urban vehicle now?

    • @johndent8813
      @johndent8813 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Shifter_Cycling For where I live, yes. Though, as you say, parking in some bike racks is a pain and the concerns of theft are always present. But the whole 'ride over anything' experience of the fat tyres makes up for it.

  • @MyronDietz
    @MyronDietz Před 3 lety +15

    Great review. I appreciate your practical perspective. Thank you.

  • @fransenfiets
    @fransenfiets Před 2 lety +3

    I built up a 29er kinda relaxed handlebar - midrange 8-speed hydraulic disc front wheel e-assist bike and she KILLS it in the snow. Just feels so locked in. All second hand parts and everything is nonproprietary, so I was able to iteratively build it up over a year, and now it’s the best thing to hop on in my micro-urban environment

  • @pandakso3365
    @pandakso3365 Před rokem +1

    I put my comment on Turbo. The highest level of CZcams compliments. Good job!

  • @ELMS
    @ELMS Před 3 lety +1

    Always such great videos. Terrific content, well produced. You definitely are a channel to watch!

  • @andythousand345
    @andythousand345 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as always!

  • @conantdog
    @conantdog Před 2 lety +4

    I'm riding my Rad Rover fat tire ebike in the snow and it is a beast.
    With racks fenders integrated lights my bike was about 2,500 us.
    I am as you say afraid to leave it almost anywhere locked up.
    I am really impressed with rad cycles their product and quality control has gotten them a number one place in sales in the US.
    An electric fat bike is a good ebike to start with because it is so unique it fills winter and summer time activities yet as you say it's not that practical.
    No doubt I will eventually get a regular road ebike, but as you said they are very expensive right now.
    I'm waiting for priority to expand their e-bike model range 👌✌️

  • @Harry_16710
    @Harry_16710 Před 2 lety

    Great idea for a video - lots of prudence! 👍🏼🚴‍♂️

  • @Nn-3
    @Nn-3 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the helpful reviews

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker Před 3 lety +6

    I am glad you gave an open minded review. And it won't be the end of the requests. Location to me has so much to do with what makes a practical winter commuter bike. I am 68 and in 5-10 years I may make the e-bike leap, but it will be generally in the same configuration of frame and wheels I enjoy and need now. My current winter specific bike is a 26 x 2, internal hub 8, and handles the worse snow and ice in my area. The real thing against fat tires for me is how this horrid skier zips right past fat tire bikes on the local Nordic trails unless they are in a perfect bubble of conditions.

  • @grantrush8823
    @grantrush8823 Před 3 lety +1

    Love my fat bike for the winter commute. Where I live in northern BC, Canada the snow removal is pretty rough so the fat bike I found the best choice. I don't have an e bike but it looks like a blast.

  • @dougrich1970
    @dougrich1970 Před 2 lety +1

    Great reviews and information also stick with what works for you nice 1 👍🏻✌🏻💯

  • @robadr13
    @robadr13 Před 3 lety +15

    Sounds like an electric 'chubby tire' mountain bike might be a good compromise. Being a little lower to the ground feels safer in the winter as well.

  • @catfreak
    @catfreak Před 3 lety +6

    I love my Riese und Müller charger 3 s-Pedelec with broad tires. Its belt drive, 650Wh battery and rack makes it perfect for my 50km (25km one way) daily commute.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +1

      For a commute that long, a pedelec makes perfect sense. Glad it's working for you!

    • @johndent8813
      @johndent8813 Před 3 lety +1

      I've got the Supercharger 2 from R&M and you're correct - they are great bikes for a commute that might include some bad road surfaces or even light or medium off-roading....

  • @kimjongsquarepants4209
    @kimjongsquarepants4209 Před rokem +1

    I picked up a folding, 400W, 20X4 e-bike. Where I live, ice on the roads is a big concern so I’ll definitely pick up some studded tires ( I’m having a hard time finding some in my size.)
    It’s a 8minute bike ride to work, ive had it for 2-3 weeks and I love it to bits.

  • @RabbitsInBlack
    @RabbitsInBlack Před rokem

    I love my e-fat bikes especially for the winter. Fat bike and studs in the winter is a must. Bike Rack and Panniers is a must for commuting and shopping.

  • @psymonsc29
    @psymonsc29 Před rokem

    Thank you Shifter, I am looking into a fat bike cause of snow (I live in WA state, not often but annoying) Fat bikes are the equalizer to snow, from what I take from this video, thank you. Stay safe and keep it up Brother.

  • @kirkw1740
    @kirkw1740 Před 3 lety +4

    I own a fat tire e-bike and I'd agree with everything you said for the most part, but the city I live in has terrible roads and virtually nonexistent bicycle infrastructure so it makes riding in the city much more enjoyable and handles the rural trails amazingly. I would love to try a 3" tire to compare them. As far as the best commuter vehicle I'm leaning more towards e-kick scooters, they can have the same speed and range as an e-bike, fold up so you can pull it behind you into a store or work, and weigh a fraction of the bike. The only issue, though it's a big one, is that they don't have the same legal status as e-bikes, at least for the moment, because they lack "pedals."

  • @justincarrubba759
    @justincarrubba759 Před 2 lety +6

    I just bought a fat e bike and my main concern is not being able to bring them on train/bus mounts. It opens up so many more traveling opportunities to be able to put the back on a train or bus

    • @thebackwash
      @thebackwash Před rokem

      Check out the new Aventon Sinch foldable. All the various public transit agencies in a 100 mile radius of me (Philadelphia) allow foldable vehicles on the train/bus.

  • @AdamoomadA
    @AdamoomadA Před 11 měsíci

    Good content!

  • @DaleStrickland
    @DaleStrickland Před 2 lety

    Great video! I'm currently considering a fat tire ebike for winter commuting. I've done winter commutes on both a hybrid bike with average tires and another bike with slightly larger tires. I'm definitely planning to get an ebike for winter, the fat tires feel like a way to have reliable transport in all weather conditions.

  • @doogiedoesyoutubable
    @doogiedoesyoutubable Před rokem

    You made some good points.
    Thanks

  • @boybumbatso1582
    @boybumbatso1582 Před rokem

    Your town looks beautiful.

  • @wandarivers2333
    @wandarivers2333 Před rokem

    Makes cycling fun again!

  • @Shifter_Cycling
    @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +4

    Have you tried a pedal-assist fat bike?

    • @stinkypete3900
      @stinkypete3900 Před 3 lety +1

      No, but I have just purchased a single speed "plus" bike. I think that this may be sweet spot for urban winter commuting with 27.5 x 3" tires.

    • @micklessard9964
      @micklessard9964 Před 3 lety

      @@stinkypete3900 Right on! I ride a Kona Unit single speed bike with 27 x 3 inch tires. It was not perfect at the start. I changed the wheel lubricant. I could barely pedal it when I bought it in December of 2018. Now, it rides like summer time. Partly due to being 71 I changed the rear cog from 18 to a 20 tooth sprocket. Easy going now.

    • @stinkypete3900
      @stinkypete3900 Před 3 lety

      @@micklessard9964 Fantastic! Inspirational that you are cycling at 71!

    • @FightFilms
      @FightFilms Před 3 lety

      I have. They suck.

    • @sjpconnor
      @sjpconnor Před 3 lety

      I've had one for 2.5 years and it's been nothing but pure fun. I used to commute on it (parked it in my office, so no theft worries), but I recently retired so now it's just a fun bike to ride around town/in the woods.

  • @lyingcorrectly
    @lyingcorrectly Před 2 lety +1

    I don't like super wide tires, but if you are in a city with a tram system those tracks are dangerous if your tires are skinny enough to get stuck in the groove. It is often not possible to cross the tracks at a safe right angle and if your front wheel gets stuck that's a nasty crash.

  • @atomic_meltbrain6269
    @atomic_meltbrain6269 Před rokem

    Perfect for Chicago roads

  • @Zoyx
    @Zoyx Před 2 lety +1

    I bought a Lectric XP, which is a fat tire electric bike. 20 inch by 4 inch tires. Only $900 (on sale). It was an awesome bike that was fun in the winter... until it was stolen.

  • @andrewslejska4205
    @andrewslejska4205 Před 3 lety +2

    I think the Background music is a bit distracting but it would make some great b roll background music for pauses. Awesome video and thanks, I have been enjoying my e bike this winter. One thing I would like to try is getting motorcycle tires on a bicycle. The tire technology is far superior on motorcycles and I think they would last a long time as well as add better grip.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for the feedback! TBH, I was using music on some of those scenes to try to distract from the loudness of those fat-bike tires, lol!
      I wonder if fat-bike tires are starting to measure up to motorcycle tires. Interesting how such tech evolves.

  • @0hypnotoad0
    @0hypnotoad0 Před 2 lety

    There's some good affordable e-bikes out there in the $1500-$2500 range. NCM and E.T. Cycle come to mind having fat tire options for less than $2000, I think if you take care with tune-ups and rust prevention maintenance they'd make for good snow-crushers.

  • @steveshea7725
    @steveshea7725 Před 7 měsíci

    I have low powered mid drive efat, 350w middrive...top speed 18, but in reality more like 14-15mph...its a great bike for rough, loose or uneven surfaces , and the woods. This will be the first winter I get to try it.
    Tbh, it will outroll a bike Friday on even a mild downhill. It's just that the tires are so

  • @CyclingSteve
    @CyclingSteve Před 3 lety +27

    Add too noisy to the list, I like that I can hear what's going on around me.

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety +7

      I share this concern!

    • @jamesjohnson1522
      @jamesjohnson1522 Před 2 lety +8

      It's not that loud....on my winter commute I actually play music on a Bluetooth speaker, and even with fat studded tires, I can still hear everything around me.

    • @MrDkgio
      @MrDkgio Před rokem +1

      I use a Engwe engine pro 750watt for commuting (all journeys, I have not bothered with a car at all for 15 months, next week will be the first time I hire a car for the day to do an accounting job that’s 90 mile round trip) the engine pro only cost me £1,260 ($1,500) comes with lights including brake lights, sturdy rack, fenders, As for missing the self generated heat, you can just set it to a lower assist level or just dress appropriately for riding with less effort, a solid bike stand means you don’t have to worry about fitting wheel into the bike rack, just lock it to the rack.
      100% wouldn’t have a non Ebike fat tyre, but with power it opens up a lot more commuting and getting around routes, off road, gravel paths, across the park, previous Ebike was a mountain eBike honestly it was nowhere near as versatile as the fat tyre bike.
      $6,000 fat tyre? Definitely would not spend that much, ridiculous price, but there are many fat tyre eBikes, some cost less than $1,000

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Před rokem +6

      To be silent on frozen snow, you need to float.

    • @Dragon-Slay3r
      @Dragon-Slay3r Před rokem

      @@julianshepherd2038 give it to the shark God forbid they sink

  • @ex0stasis72
    @ex0stasis72 Před 2 lety +4

    I got the Lectric XP with the 3" fat tires, and instead of $6000, mine is only $1000. Still a little expensive for a commuter bike, but definitely not as tough of a pill to swallow as $6000.
    Regarding staying warm in winter, I just lower my pedal assist (so I'm working harder) and travel slower (so there's less wind chill factor). A side benefit to that is that I get longer range on the battery so it's not like you're wasting the potential of what you paid for.
    Regarding the lack of urban features like fenders, bike racks, or lights, my Lectric XP came with all of those things preinstalled, and it was $1000, not $6000.
    So in other words, I wouldn't disregard fat tire e-bikes altogether. There's a balance to be had. It doesn't have to be as expensive as the one in this video, and you don't have to use the highest level of assistance either.

    • @paoloc4921
      @paoloc4921 Před rokem +2

      where the heck did you get that and where can this canadian get one? :0

  • @ftilos
    @ftilos Před 3 lety +1

    I have a Swytch Pro ebike assist in my Brompton folding bike. You might want to check SWYTCH Pro Kit for your priority bike. I live in Calgary AB as well.

  • @merendell
    @merendell Před 3 lety +3

    The main thing for staying warm in the winter on any ebike is to make sure you keep puting out the same effort you would if you had the battery off. If you use the peddle assist as an excuse to take it easy your going to get cold. Adjust the assist level so that hill feels like flat ground normaly would. If your normal pedal pace puts you at 15mph on a flat pump just as hard with assist on and you'll be going 20 instead but still be just as warm. As long as your outer shell is decent at breaking the wind a few extra MPH of wind chill isnt going to make that much of a difference if your still generating alot of body heat.
    My local weather isnt quite as cold as yours but I usualy go with a water/windproof shell and the minimum under that to not freeze my ass off in the first 2 minutes of my ride. Still a bit cold for those first 2 minutes out the door but after that I'll be warm enough even for short stops. I keep a heavier layer in the pannier for long stops. I then pick a speed I want to travle at and use the assist levels as a thermostat. Too warm? assist up and ease off peddeleing as hard to cool off. Too cold? assist down and peddle harder to maintain speed and build body heat .

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations Před rokem +1

      Maybe you could add a front windscreen to the bike as well?

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    @omaralgorani8730 Před 2 lety

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  • @dark_winter8238
    @dark_winter8238 Před 2 lety

    You can get all.thos accessories for fat tire ebikes and turn down the assist to warm yourself up. Two potential negatives are it fitting on any public transit rack and aggressive seating style.

    • @karlInSanDiego
      @karlInSanDiego Před 2 lety

      agreed, the extra weight and tire widths make this not bus rack compatible.

  • @glennmartin6492
    @glennmartin6492 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah! So they DO make studded fat tires.
    You mention two things.
    It's harder to get up to speed -is this because the sponginess of the low pressure tires absorbs more of the enrgy you're pedaling out when it hits a bump or slope? Or is it the extra mass at the utside of the wheel that you have to spin up?
    It's more stable. - what do you mean by this? Harder to slide out from under you? Harder to tip because you have more mass in the tire spinning like a top? A wider tire surface engaging with the ground?
    I've been looking at one speed bikes with a pedal assist motor to act essentially as my gearing as the route warrants. I've seen a lot of talk about narrow studded tires for winter biking. Would a studded fat tire offer some advantages?

  • @PR-xh3nj
    @PR-xh3nj Před 2 lety +1

    Needing to add lights or bags etc isn't a negative. Most bikes don't have those options out of the box.
    Good perspective though. I never thought about the ease of riding an e bike in the winter resulting in less energy/body heat.

  • @whatsthestoryborrey5665

    Nice Channel Just recently got a RadRunner from rad power bikes... I think it answers a lot of your comments here.

  • @derekjolly3680
    @derekjolly3680 Před 8 měsíci

    Fact is I had a Marin MTB bike for a few years, but it got far less, and diminishing use after I bought a Marin hybrid model. I might of seen it differently with winter riding, but in the past I've been shut down for biking over winters. The hybrid offered me more comparatively for speed, athletics, handling, and now utility use. Not that different for what you see for the advantages of your preferred style of city bikes. I've even gone and changed tires to Fincci 700x35c for both, where it's more of a gravel type tire compared to more of a dirt tire. With far less snow and ice here, (Arizona but at 5000 feet) I could be OK with those, but I have two used spares which I can change back to for the dirt tires if need be on that bike.

  • @derykmacleod4979
    @derykmacleod4979 Před 3 lety

    I think my next build will be a fat tire ebike. My current is a mountain bike , but I can see riding on gravel and sand that a fat tire gives you a better gripping surface. How fast were you traveling and how far? I try to go out for winter rides with the hightech longjohns and all to stay warm....not as much fun till spring rolls around.

  • @ToxicHwoarang
    @ToxicHwoarang Před 7 měsíci

    I have been commuting to and from work and my girl friends house 25 miles away and two towns over with two different fat bikes now. I like your video but there really is nothing wrong with them as commuters urban or otherwise.
    My second fat ebike has 1300+ miles now. The old one had well over 2k

  • @mgkleym
    @mgkleym Před 3 lety +3

    The other downside to ebikes should be pointed out more. It pushes your average speed up close to that of a motorcycle yet people still wear typical cycling gear. If you eat shit on an ebike doing 25 you are going to be much worse off then me in my armored and abrasion resistant motorcycle gear and full face helmet. Not saying it's practical to ride a bike in that stuff but it seems like most people don't even consider the injury risk higher speeds on a bike present.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 Před 3 lety +4

    Got a fat bike this year, and it’s huge extra work. Looking at getting ebike conversion kit.

    • @GrayWithMe
      @GrayWithMe Před 2 lety

      I can imagine. I just look at those tires and know I’m not strong enough to make those work

  • @tconnolly9820
    @tconnolly9820 Před 2 lety +1

    If all of the salt on your city streets will corrode a fat bike like that a year or two, what the hell does it do to a brand new car that costs multiples of a premium bike like that?!?!
    Although, beautiful machine!
    With the electric motor, it would be a very pleasant commuter' summer or winter.
    I'm in Ireland and I think it must be 12 years ago since we had any kind of substantial snow that turned the country white. Hopefully it'll be another 12 more at least. Let's just say every year I'm dreaming of a green Christmas.
    Usually only get a real snow about every decade on average.
    It's been a very mild winter this year with barely half a dozen icy morning's on the roads. My 40mm tyres on my hybrid bike are fine all year round.

  • @clownworld3107
    @clownworld3107 Před 2 lety

    If you rise the handlebars a little bit higher then it will help you to prevent sore wrist and will be more comfortable. Don't leave your ebike battery outside in the winter, goodness will damage your battery. The same with sun light in hot summer. You can get a beautiful and more powerful Chinese fat tire ebike for 14$ USD. Himiway Cruiser and Majicity fat tire ebikes are amazing but they are a little bit expensive.

  • @anssimyllymaki1624
    @anssimyllymaki1624 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I ride e- fat bike. It's fun and great for communiting.

  • @turfnsurf9367
    @turfnsurf9367 Před rokem +1

    You can buy a cheap brand new 26"x4" tires bike for under $500. I ride motorcycle in the falls and heated gears are a must! However, I am concern sharing icy roads with vehicles.

  • @doriandouma
    @doriandouma Před 2 lety +2

    I always wonder about the drivetrains on those... does it have the high gears you need to do 30kph without pumping the cranks super fast? And like you said, it doesn't take much effort to maintain that speed, but on eco mode does it give you just a bit of a boost, allowing you to power it mostly yourself or what?

  • @acchaladka
    @acchaladka Před 2 lety

    So now that it's almost winter here in the Canada again... Will you do a winter commuting e-bike list?

  • @snip_king428
    @snip_king428 Před 3 lety

    Love mine....

  • @RB01138
    @RB01138 Před 10 měsíci

    The Voltbike Yukon has lights, fenders, & a rack for 2K.

  • @kevinbrooks3913
    @kevinbrooks3913 Před 2 lety +1

    Used to cycle alot when younger. Now older with lots of old injuries keeping me driving. I think a E-Bike would be a great option to get me cycling again

    • @dronespace
      @dronespace Před 2 lety

      ❤️

    • @Qossuth
      @Qossuth Před 2 lety +1

      Indeed. Rode a lot in my 20s and 30s, then not for 30 years, now enjoying being back in the saddle. I still remember how effing annoying that hill was that was always there in the commute, or the feeling of pedaling into a strong headwind, but those days are essentially gone and now biking is nothing but goodness.

  • @massoud999
    @massoud999 Před 3 lety

    That's what we call problems of rich people.
    We here don't have snow at all.
    I liked the unbiased review.

  • @johng1857
    @johng1857 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m in the market for an E bike to replace my winter bike and it’s kind of been a letdown to see that all the major companies do not include water damage in their warranties. How am I supposed to rely on a machine that the manufacturer won’t even stand behind for one year? Yes, as you mentioned rain and snow and salt causes corrosion, but it’s not like these things are made out of sugar, either. If anyone knows of a company whose warranty policy covers water damage, please let me know!

  • @bobdinsmore482
    @bobdinsmore482 Před 2 lety +1

    Time to rethink fat wheel Lectric eBike. It’s on sale now$50 off, now $949 plus upgrade light soft seat with shock absorber seat post and solid bike lock. Grab it while you can for Black Friday special! I just bought one a week ago and I feel guilty because I’m falling in love with it and I feel like I’m cheating on my wife.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 Před 2 lety +1

      Go on, admit it....
      You work for Lectric!

    • @bobdinsmore482
      @bobdinsmore482 Před 2 lety +1

      Don’t work for Lectric, I’m retired and riding my bike everyday.

  • @jiw71
    @jiw71 Před rokem

    other than the mid drive motor & battery the components are the same as a conventional bike.............and both are well-protected against the elements. I ride year round and have 16,500 kms on my e-bike (since 2019). I haven't had any additional issues on this bike as I have had on my other conventional bikes. But the probable theft issue is a great reason for not commuting with my e-bike

  • @anatoliypidlubnyy7656
    @anatoliypidlubnyy7656 Před 3 lety +2

    I have two issues with e-bikes: the cost and inability to maintain the electrical components myself. I own a cross ebike with a Bosch motor. Love the bike but the motor is a black box. I can't take it apart, no parts are available the batteries are proprietary and very expensive. If the motor fails I'll be looking at an expensive repair or replacement. Since the frame is built for a specific motor it might not be compatible with the newer motor models. Effectively, if anything happens to the motor - the bike is throwaway.

  • @RichardsGaySon
    @RichardsGaySon Před rokem

    My only complaint with my ebike is it’s too cold in the winter. Especially when riding fast

  • @PeterSdrolias
    @PeterSdrolias Před rokem

    Living in Winnipeg, I would definitely meed the power assist when the commute to work is 25k...one way😭

  • @alexis7386
    @alexis7386 Před 2 lety

    How do you ride in the snow? The bike you normally ride has tires that don’t look like they are meant for the snow.

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn Před 2 lety +1

    4:05 use less assistance or even start without assist to get up to temp

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 Před 3 lety +1

    Also studded tires.

  • @sumalsebastian
    @sumalsebastian Před 2 lety

    is studded tires necessary for winter biking? even if it is regular mountain bike? you showed using skinny tires in snow. are you using studded tires? if not how it is not slipping in snow? what is the safe speed limit to follow when riding on snowy road?

  • @vitormlb1199
    @vitormlb1199 Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly, for people under extreme conditions like snow, heavy mug, sand and etc I can understand adoption of fat bikes (and must be honest: seeing you at the end on ice with a 38cc or thinner tire made me think if fat bikes are not a must in these conditions). But, unless you have balancing issues, I don't see any sense on people using these. Here in Sao Paulo(BR) I see LOT of people purchasing those for urban cycling on bright sunny days in well paved streets.

  • @jspate61
    @jspate61 Před 2 lety

    Lots of food for thought. I'm in Montreal thinking of buying a first e-hauler like the rad wagon 4. We have the infrastructure, but is it doable: using an e bike for everyday tasks, Let me know what you think. Cheers from Montreal QC

  • @chrisconnors7418
    @chrisconnors7418 Před rokem

    When I switch to riding my fat bike (not electric) in the winter, I feel terribly out of shape. I’m drenched in sweat after five km. I want to sell the bike. After a couple of months though it’s much better and I can ride along streams and across lakes and on snowmobile tracks for 2-3 hrs and enjoy the experience. When I switch back to a thin tired bike in the spring it feels nearly effortless riding up hills. This year I’m going to ride the fat bike once or twice a week during the summer to maintain a higher level of endurance and strength, so maybe when winter comes back I won’t feel like dying on short rides.

  • @GreenStrokeHillbilly
    @GreenStrokeHillbilly Před rokem

    Hey love the video, still have some questions because I'm looking for a E bike for myself, live in Western NY so I need something durable for the ice/snow on the shoulder of the road in early mornings. But yet still be reliable for the easy summer/springs. Respond if ya see this please 🙏 would really appreciate your insight

  • @judedunlop5295
    @judedunlop5295 Před 3 lety +4

    Did the e bike have mode settings?
    I converted an old Raleigh Aero to throttle assist ( front wheel drive) and I find if I'm not warm enough just use leg power till warm then back on the throttle, and repeat 😁

  • @Nickles4
    @Nickles4 Před rokem

    So snow isn’t an issue for electric bikes if you maintain cleaning after riding. Looking at getting a 750w fat tire e-bike for my commute to work and water/snow has been my main concern. I don’t want a skinny tire bike because good god the amount of potential flats is scary lol

  • @siopaomaster
    @siopaomaster Před rokem

    how about urban commute during other seasons? Is e-fatbike practical?

  • @sifi7950
    @sifi7950 Před 3 lety +1

    Are those 700c wheels in your Priority Tom? Also, what type of CBT hub does your Priority have? It looks quite similar to my Lekker Amsterdam (Enviolo NuVinci 330 hub), however my bike has 650b wheels. Keep up the great content!

  • @mcgraw2967
    @mcgraw2967 Před 2 lety

    Is that right 🤔

  • @jonathanmichael915
    @jonathanmichael915 Před rokem

    May I ask what the coldest temp is that you've run an ebike in? Do they work below zero?

  • @definitelynotacrab7651

    I definitely would he nervous leaving a 6k bike around, that's more expensive than some cars and could be a tempting target.

  • @staver76
    @staver76 Před rokem

    Curious to what you think about the northrock XCF/XC00 and a cheaper electric motor conversion - all in less than 2k - do you think that'd be worthwhile for a dedicated winter commuter?

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 Před 3 lety

    My Cmc fat bike was $325.00, I will watch for studded tires cheap, and put ebike kit on it.

  • @rdkuless
    @rdkuless Před 3 lety

    It is really hard on Ebike Batteries because Lithium-ion don't like to freeze.. You definitely should never charge a frozen battery, wait until it comes to room temperature before charging. Your range will definitely drop in cold weather. So unless you have a warm place to bring the bike in for storage and charging it's not really a good idea. Batteries run between $260 and $1200. Charging a frozen battery can cause it to malfunction or completely fail. Expensive lesson..

  • @francesbernard2445
    @francesbernard2445 Před rokem

    Well at least I would never have to experience noticing that the passenger door is not closed while the vehicle has already started to move away from the curb again.

  • @patembersouls
    @patembersouls Před 2 lety

    How about the internal gear, chainless bikes?

  • @mattedj
    @mattedj Před 3 lety

    Thing I didn't like about my E-Bike when I was trying to lose winter chub, it's not effective.

    • @HellGod67
      @HellGod67 Před 2 lety +1

      The correct diet is effective, trying to lose weight by commute transport is dumb. Commute should be comfortable, exciting and overall enjoyable while not leaving you in sweat for the rest of the work day.

  • @kevingary7018
    @kevingary7018 Před 3 lety

    I park my ebike from Thanksgiving to Saint Patrick's Day, I like to stay warm. How does the battery hold up in the cold?

    • @Shifter_Cycling
      @Shifter_Cycling  Před 3 lety

      Cold definitely reduces battery life, but ebikes are still absolutely viable in winter.

  • @happyvilly
    @happyvilly Před 2 lety

    How is the battery in winter? Dead quickly than summer?

  • @jrsixowfour8674
    @jrsixowfour8674 Před rokem

    Was this filmed in whitehorse yukon? Hillcrest

  • @stuarthirsch
    @stuarthirsch Před 3 lety

    E-bike or not the only uses I can see for a fat tire bike is in the snow on trails, on the beach, or as a dune bike in the desert.

  • @ErikDOne-pe6lq
    @ErikDOne-pe6lq Před 10 měsíci

    I am trying to get an ebike to commute to work, but i an worry about leaving it outside in the cold, any recommendations?

  • @lostsoul3154
    @lostsoul3154 Před 2 lety

    Are street tires available for the fat bikes?

  • @Altema22
    @Altema22 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, only saw it now because I'm a recent subscriber. I'm a former marathoner who had eleven bikes at one time, and when I got a fat-e-bike (that sounds like fatty bike!), it became my immediate favorite. Getting going is the tough part, but once on the move, it rolls and coasts very well. Security is the rain on the parade for me, as my hometown is pretty much cars-only, and it's rare that stores even have a rack, let alone one that's properly installed in a good location. But, everything else is pretty much perfect: full set of lights with brake light, heavy duty rack, 1600 watt hub motor which is silent a low speeds, 12 pedal assist levels, 73 miles range on throttle only (tested), and it FOLDS!
    But, I still have to drive a car because no one is going to pick a car up and throw it in the back of a pickup truck...

  • @jamesnewsom5899
    @jamesnewsom5899 Před rokem

    Get a Magicycle Cruiser Pro. $1899. Fat tires, fenders, racks, and add paniers

  • @FO0OL
    @FO0OL Před 2 lety

    Bruh I had the hardest bike crash and Road burn on the top of the park ur filming at. took me a couple years to get back in biking... Still have the scars and a chunk of my right hand missing....

    • @FO0OL
      @FO0OL Před 2 lety

      I biffed it hard riding down from those top rails

  • @noorbabelli
    @noorbabelli Před 2 lety

    Can any one recommend a full list of Items to turn fat bike into electric or any direct link for full package

  • @417cycleguy
    @417cycleguy Před 5 měsíci

    They make a sound IF you use Knobbies. Using ‘normal’ tread tires and you’ll be a ghost like me