Heather Heying & Bret Weinstein: The Lab Hypothesis | Real Time (HBO)
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Evolutionary biologists Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein join Bill Maher to discuss the nature and possible origins of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.
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You’re now allowed to explore these ideas since the election is over.
actually, now that biden is the president, covid will go away. sit back and watch.
And miracles of miracles, as soon as Biden took office, the virus numbers started dropping precipitously, even though only 8 million people had the vaccination at the time, & we hadn't achieved herd immunity. Biden is truly a miracle worker.
True
@@fernando420 march 2020+18 months. This has been known at the beginning. I read this article called "the hammer and the dance" back in the day, talking about what to expect the response to look like, and the reasons for it. All the data and estimates about the impact of the infection itself have since then proven to be major overestimations, but somehow the response it predicted has been right on schedule to a T. They predicted 18 months exactly, with no explanation. So I've been saying for a while that it will all go away late fall this year (18 months), Recently, Fauci announced that things will likely return to normal late fall this year.
@@pseudonymous8702 Yes, in Canada, Justin Trudeau also mentioned this timeline on April 9 2020 and connected it to a vaccine.
Imagine having these two brilliant minds as your college professors?! Sadly, the Evergreen students were so dim that they ran these two amazing minds out of the school.
And the rest of us have benefitted... So f*ck em.
@James Smythe are you an evergreen student ?
Yes and no. The students who drove them out were from a completely different part of campus and not one of them had taken any of their classes. The student who had them as professors defended them completely. Really goes to show the ideology of these alt-left social lynch mobs. Not one of them knew anything about Bret or Heather but they were all 100% convinced Bret or Heather were (insert alt-left slur here).
@James Smythe Sure yes. The students wandering around with weapons and the removal of the campus security were not a contributing factor at all. Since they left the college is failing and will hopefully close in years to come. Anyone who studies there will likely leave as an indoctrinated loon, and anyone who employ them deserves to fail too.
Not dim, indoctrinated
I love when Bill's audiences don't know whether to clap for hearing the truth or stay silent because the truth goes against their narrative.
Exactly
Grifters or not they might be right.
@@barryrudolph9542 and, equally, they could be wrong.
@@rick49 We may never find out.
@@harrym9655 "Grifters" is the new liberal insult that is so over- and misused that it has lost currency. They're calmly making a point you don't want to hear.
Bret and Heather have been a beacon of truth from the very beginning, love their podcast and love their intelligence, their EQ and their genuine approach to all topics .
So funny how a year ago you'd be labeled racist and trumpian for paying any consideration to this. Politics has become doublespeak on steroids
Bret should debate a virologist instead of a talk show host. I'm guessing the virologist will crush Bret's claims with evidence.
The only people being called racists were the ones actually saying racist things.
@@tw8661 like biden saying blacks and hispanics can’t get the vaccine because they don’t know how to use the internet?
I was given a 7 day ban on twitter for suggesting it came from a lab.
@@L3M0N4NDCH3RRYZZ I'm willing to bet anything that you said a lot more than that. Spreading misinformation that could harm people will lead to a ban
Just the fact the Bret and Heather are on this platform is very encouraging to me. People are waking up.
🙌🏻
I’m just now seeing this. I’m shocked. They are too good for Maher but props to him for having them on.
Bill Maher has always been a bit of a black sheep
@@mynamewhatis7254 You mean closet conservative.
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 Nope.
Kudos to Bill for having these exceptionally intelligent people on his show. I watch their "Darkhorse Podcast" religiously.
Your Tweet did not age well.
@@the0point Right, Going through this comment section is gold. All the love for these horse paste grifters.
@@jeff1872t czcams.com/video/cN_BIJ4CUhA/video.html
@@tim7696 🤣🤣🤣So much crazy shit has passed I had forgotten this.
@@jeff1872t I came across dark horse at the start of the pandemic and I tried to reason with them to no avail to say that they have a closed loop non sequitur logic is my opinion
These two wonderful people have risked everything, on multiple occasions, standing for what they believe to be right. I sincerely hope all works out for th
key words: "WHAT THEY BELIEVE"
@@robi6317 key word THE TRUTH
@@Chevrolet-71 except that "the truth" wasnt in your comment DUH - no proof, no truth - its LITERALLY called "the hypothesis" - and im ok with that existing cuz its possible.... but not fact. without it you're just another conspiracy nut
@@Chevrolet-71 Lol
So incredibly grateful that Brett and Heather have a platform. Two truly intelligent and well rounded people. Your loss, Evergreen. Our gain.
cancel them yesterday, take their speech now, hurry before it's too late
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 oh look! It's the same clown without an argument
Thank God evergreen was the location of the meltdown
@@gaigegrosskreutzmissingbic5591 I'm flattered you remember me but my argument is they deserve to be banned, go get the thought police, somebody call george orwin and put a stop to these right wing lunatics spreading conspiracies. Nah I'm mostly just joking. Mostly.
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 far left ideologies and techniques have killed 100s of millions more than Conservative ideologies, or even the furthest far right ideologies.
History is not your friend, friend.
It's just a shame that your entire identity is synonymous with failure
Also, just in case, Bret and Heather did not kill themselves.
Neither did BIll Maher
Hahaha gold
I'm surprised anyone was allowed to discuss this openly on a mainstream platform. Still, the average person isn't allowed to say this. Average people will get censored for discussing these topics, which is very disturbing.
What if they mention that the Clintons have stock in the lab in Wuhan?? Then they'll catch a bad case of the suicides.
@@viriathus2802 if they are discussing it, just imagine how overwhelming the evidence is in favour of a lab leak hypothesis?
I like how Bill Maher was at the tip of the spear mocking anything and everything Trump said during this crisis, now he talks like he wasn't a part of why the lab leak hypothesis was suppressed
No shit
Exactly this. Maher is only in it for the views.
I'm not sure if you know this, but Trump was bad!!!!!!
Yeah. He is a big part of the problem.
Maher is riding on their coat tails. He is a slime bag.
Let’s talk about how we were called idiots and conspiracy theorists when we said that it came from a lab in CHINA
Too many people are focusing on the trees, e.g., Fauci's possible stupidity, if that is true, and ignoring the forest. The genocidal actions of the CCP.
The GOP is desperately attacking Fauci to distract Americans, because its Wall Streeters and banksters, who own those politicians, are deeply invested in the CCP’s China, so they do not want to impose real sanctions. Sadly, that is the same with many Democrats.
The billionaires transferred millions of US jobs to China by establishing subsidized factories, using slave labor, free land, permission to pollute, etc., from the CCP in exchange for giving the CCP a share from the profits in the quasi-slave run factories. Then, they could avoid paying US taxes, because they did not have to pay US taxes under the law until they brought those profits back to the USA formally - which they never will because they use foreign tax shelters in the Cayman Islands, Panama, Ireland, etc.
See Fortune’s “Commentary: Apple Avoided $40 Billion in Taxes. Now It Wants a Gold Star?” See "Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties, despite the company's promises to hold itself to the 'highest standards,' report says" in business insider. See "China: Apple accused of violating labour laws as employees at iPhone factory found working 100 hours of overtime & being ‘punished’ for not meeting targets; Incl. co. comments" in business-humanrights d o t o r g. See "‘Woke’ Apple continues to use Chinese slave labor, report shows" in washington times. See "Apple Agrees To Pay $113 Million To Settle 'Batterygate' Case Over iPhone Slowdowns" in NPR. See "Apple fined record $1.2 billion by French antitrust authorities" in nbcnews.
Instead of punishing the CCP merely with sanctions, we should boycott China's high tech products, raise tariffs on all Chinese products to the sky slowly, so that factories in Malaysia or Vietnam or Mexico or Brazil or India or in other countries can start to produce the same products, and then just ban all of Chinese products from all allied countries: the US, Japan, India, EU (excluding Germany if some CCP-apologist like Merkel gains power after she leaves), etc. The Pearl Harbor attack killed less than 4000 innocents.
The CCP's viruses have killed that many every few hours for many months all over the world. Am I the only one struck by the "coincidence" that the deadliest, Covid variants seem to be supposedly getting "created within" and attacking the countries that are the most hated and represent the most powerful "enemies" or competitors of the CCP: e.g., India, the US, the UK, Brazil, etc.?
The CCP knew that this virus was transmissible between humans for months before it revealed it and reports of SEPTEMBER 2019 Covid infections already coming from Wuhan to ITALY indicate that it had been growing in China for many months. The CCP closed China's internal borders from Wuhan while keeping its international borders open to enable its infected travelers from Wuhan to fly to the EU, India, US, Brazil, South Africa, and other countries and thus infect them.
That makes their insistence on foreign nations keeping their international borders open to infected, Chinese travelers and hypocritical claims of racism against countries wisely closing their borders, like Australia, really outrageous. Such tactics evidence bad intent. See e.g., "How China locked down internally for COVID-19, but pushed foreign travel" in the Economic Times of the India times. They closed their own international borders later when the infections surged in those countries which they successfully had infected. See how the CCP's HOs bear equal responsibility: "WHO says countries should keep borders open, trade & people moving despite coronavirus" in Reuters.
The CCP's decision to keep China's international borders open to infect other countries, while selfishly closing its internal borders, enabled this pandemic to grow in the US, India, etc., and caused most of the infections and deaths because at that time the number of infections was still relatively tiny and if other countries had not been lied to by the CCP they might have quarantined the fewer, infected persons in their countries. See "Public health expert says ‘zero doubt’ most U.S. virus deaths were avoidable" in PBS.
If the CCP had closed China's international borders, of course, its claimed "enemies" like India and the US might never have even gotten any infections as happened with SARS 1, which I contend is why it insisted on keeping international travelers leaving Wuhan to infect other ("enemy") countries for many weeks. Even assuming that it was initially not leaked from the Wuhan lab intentionally, it was indisputably then used as a tool by the CCP to harm other countries because it kept its flights to other countries flying to infect those other countries.
@@mim8312 well said
Was it your first theory? How the other "conspiracy" theories turned out?
Empty guns, fire once a year.
The major debate, is not if the virus was created in a lab, but what we should do now. Vaccines are the hot topic.
@@mim8312 You might be able to process this and benefit from it...
Search archive.org (not the wayback machine) for "RO**CHILD" after replacing the asterisks with "FS." Download the oldest of the files, navigate to the HTML file, right click it, and open it in your browser. Then read it... all of it. He says who he is in the first paragraph, and he says who he believes us to be as well. Then he uses the rest of the document to prove his claim as to who he is.
@@mim8312 China is a capitalist's dream. Cheap, compliant labour. No peasants thinking they and their children are entitled to not being poisoned by industry.
The conspiracy part though makes no sense. If China had deliberately released the virus and had intended to target particularly countries they would have released it directly in each country. Even Australia has proven that it is impossible to contain once inside your borders.
Variants happen naturally. There is also good reason to believe that countermeasures like lockdowns helped select for more infectious mutations.
Bret Weinstein is such a genius, a great communicator and teacher, that dump of a school that forced him out didn't deserve him.
I'm honestly glad the Evergreen nonsense happened. While I don't agree with the people who were upset at him, if that hadn't happened I likely would have never heard of him.
Exactly, Bret was discussing this from the beginning and time has shown him to be correct.
By all accounts it was a great school before the current president
Sadly there is less and less room for rational people in this world especially this country
@@LordBruuh I bet Joe hasn't had him on because he's afraid Bret will call him on his BS...seems to be why Joe hasn't had any academics/scientists on his show
The fact that this was so difficult to have this conversation is scary. We no longer have media, we have Pravda. There is only the Party Line....
CCP is the party
Because liberals have trump derangement syndrome.
Maybe but the fact that you guys are so boldly engaging in stupid and wrong think while convinced of your own smugnorance is truly terrifying
@@nick21501 We found the original thinker
Pravda means the Truth. The only allowed Truth.
“So it was politicized…”
-Talk Show Host that spent 4 years politicizing everything that Trump said or did.
Perfect
the perfect liberal mouthpiece
Well he was the president.
well...since trump IS A POLITICIAN everything he says IS POLITICAL. duh
🤣 Trump was responsible for his own demise....If he didn't confirm he's a dimwit with all those Tweets, he might've actually survived.
And they are still going strong, with their heads held high.
I am grateful for these two teachers.
Hows that horse paste taste? Whats the best flavor?
@@jeff1872t In fact, it was in the form of a bitter pill that time. And regarding the vastness of your ignorance, there is no flavour or taste to that.
This has aged like fine wine!
Brett has been right about the lab leak hypothesis from the start.
Oddly enough , Trump also , until the Democrats , big media and monopoly tech shut him down ...
@@michaelweber5702 I agree Trump was vilified, but I seem to member Trump saying "Chinese bioweapon" not "lab leak" The concepts are a bit different. I have long thought a grad student left a door open in a clean room or put a culture into the office fridge then mixed it up with their lunch and that is what Brett and Heather were pointing out, while Trump was focusing on the bioweapon potential and beating the war drum at China with less emphasis om the lab origin. It has been gross how any mention of this a year ago got me branded a conspiracy theorist and I am glad it is finally coming out. I sure hope we have learn that science needs to not come with a side politics.
@@bigsprucerabbitry6238 when and where did Trump say "bio-weapon" on record?
@@bigsprucerabbitry6238 I remember right after this happened, there was a lot floating around about the Chinese trying to suppress any reporting of this in Wuhan for months, flights originating from Wuhan to the rest of China being shut down (while still allowing them to go to the rest of the world), and a photocopy of a document of Wuhan Lab change of safety procedures after a virus "incident" had occurred floating around on the internet. The latter relying us to trust the translation was accurate, but I can't even find it through google now, so it seems to have been censored out as "misinformation" or whatever, which is scary seeing that we are revisiting the possibility now.
@@michaelweber5702 No, Trump believes in lab leaks but all for the wrong reasons…
Just because it did leaked from the lab doesn’t mean that Trump is right.
last week I put the lab hypothesis to a doctor and he immediately shut me down by calling me a conspiracy theorist. What kind of Orwellian nightmare is this?
Why would a doctor know anything about it?
2020 - 2021
@@tomhearns4770 Why would anybody?
Not to _haarp_ on it, but the previous director of the CDC, noted virologist - Robert Redfield, has now publicly stated in a CNN interview that he believes it came from a lab; he says the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but I think that is a fall-back tactic to obfuscate the culpability of the Level 4 Labs at Fort Detrick's USAMRIID. U.S. labs being a possible source is mentioned by CNN news presenters in this interview, but subtly spun as a diversion tactic by officials in China. Some claim a sample of the virus was smuggled to the W.I.V. through Canads's N.M.I facility. czcams.com/video/p45MtnlKhdI/video.html&authuser=0
Fauci was involved in encouraging and funding Wuhan's Institute of Virology to conduct research into Corona Viruses in 2019. No host species has been found. Bat > pangolin > human ace2 receptor remains an unproven hypothesis. That is why artificially sequenced viral mRNA instructions for ribosome assembly of amino acids into the correct sequence to create sars-cov-2 spike proteins (without making the rest of the virus) is being employed as the vaccine technology of choice. However, Ft. Detrick knew that sequence and was providing that information to vaccine research companies before the covidid19 was even recognized. in Wuhan. The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, Event 201 seminar transcripts describe a pandemic event which starts in China. www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about
The following is a more complete presentation of a working hypothesis of what I think has occurred:
In my opinion, The framing ... of the Wuhan Institute of Virology by US is intended to obfuscate our own culpability in developing a sars-cov-2 gain of function ... the ability to readily bind to the human ace2 receptor in lung tissue. This was accomplished at Fort Detrick by artificially sequencing the amino acids of the spike protein protogers, in an order that causes this chain of amino acids to coil in a precise tertiary structure (3D shape) that specifically fits the ace2 like a key to a very specific lock ... allowing the virus to enter ... releasing it's own genetic code in the form of strand of viral mRNA into the cell cytoplasm with the instructions for the order in which the cell ribosomes (free floating micro molecular bio-machines that assemble amino acids in specific orders to make specific proteins) should assemble various amino acids to produce all the parts necessary for new viruses to assemble and begin infecting other cells at an accelerating rate. Thus the virus and those responsible have hijacked our cells ... literally an inside job by enemies from within. Question General Talley - Base Commander at Fort Detrick.
*"This is the calm before the (viral) storm!"* - Trump 2017 video czcams.com/video/VrF7alkwdHw/video.html
*And ... isn't that General Talley ( on Trump's **_far right_** ); base commander of Fort Detrick's Level 4 USAMRIID Labs* (see video)
Wiki - Photo Portrait Gen. Talley - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Michael_J._Talley_(2).jpg
Some say the first outbreak of covid19 occurred at the Greenspring Senior Living Center in Fairfax County, located near to the level 4 labs of Fort Detrick’s USAMRIID facility ("merely for biohazard research" ... not) … which Fauci and the CDC shut down in 7/2019 … coincidentally at the same time. czcams.com/video/GM-gzm_sOM0/video.html 2,500 cases of an unknown illness with symptoms identical to covid19 were clustered in that region at that time. Nonetheless, 14 Fort Detrick army athletes were SENT to Wuhan to compete the international WORLD ATHLETIC GAMES in Oct. 2019; returning before the outbreak … as did competing athletes from other countries. (Fort Detrick is also where the Ames Strain was proven to have originated in 2001 following 9/!!)
Greenspring Senior Living Community
Assisted living facility in Springfield, Virginia
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Few journalists seem to be on this ...
www.unz.com/article/the-hunt-for-patient-zero/
As a person with a scientific academic background in pre-med biology UC Irvine Class of '82 ... I am willing to hear out your evidence and suggestions for a null hypothesis that might change my mind.
Most of my comment and chat posts on this subject get shadow banned ... I was pleasantly surprised to receive a response ... like a message in a bottle washing back up on the shore of Woke Island ... to Tom Hanks in Castaway.
Can anyone see this reply post?
Nothing to do with Orwell my dude. The doctor in question didn't know anything about the research on the subject.
The clapping at 3:20 tells you a lot about why we are in this mess.
Haha I paused at that part to check comments. I was like 'what in the hell are they clapping about?!'
Reminds me of Hitchens saying they'll clap at anything
Dude just described the function of the various vaccines, known by everyone for over a year, and these people clapped like seals about it haha wtf
Lol, I thought the same thing when I heard it. Bill Mahr's audience is straight out of Idiocracy, they only clap when someone gets hit in the balls
@@derek4412 They began clapping because Bret said the word vaccine and the audience has been trained by the media to celebrate the vaccine regardlessof the context. However, they stiffled their claps because they didn't understand what Bret was actually saying about the vaccine which was the fact that we still don't know if the way we created them is dangerous or not.
Long story short: Bill Mahr's audience is comprised of what most would call "useful idiots."
Their podcast feels so intimate and homespun one is not aware of the depth of knowledge and understanding these two are capable of. Thanks Bill Maher for asking all the right searching and realistic questions.
This show would be so much better without an audience....time and again, weird applause breaks in serious conversation
Hard for youtube to take something down that is officially broadcast. It's allready covered by official regulation.
@@rimmersbryggeri yeah and what a shame the lighting wasn't different.
There isn’t an audience lol
@@SRV4Life1 so the crew start to randomly clap at 3:23? Seems unprofessional
@@stephenruane670 It's the crew. During the Kimmel interview they both said their audiences are their crews.
Maher's face when Heather Heying mentions the polarisation and the rush to condemn the other side no matter what....
I think youtuber dipsht blogger brett finklestein is really on to something with this conspiracy, he should tell us more LOL. I'm just joking man but this whole gimmick they keep doing about being silenced by SJW's and the woke crowd while they spread conspiracies is pretty cringe, pretty embarrassing if you ask me.
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 🤡
@@ksoup0925 you know what the real problem is, it's the broke powerless voiceless woke police and cancel culture ruining america, or wait, maybe it's sociopathic dweebs spreading conspiracies to millions, maybe they're more to blame.
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 Do you buy fuel in bulk for all that gaslighting?
@@mattk4758 bro it's the fired Weinstein flunkies that are gaslighting you for clicks so of course you are correct, I'm gas lighting the gas lighters IE not gas lighting. Take care.
Thank God these two were willing to consider data as it emerged. They’ve had the most objective analysis of the virus, vaccines and treatments.
Hows your horse paste?
And they also admit when they are wrong, even if it takes a while. Like the face diapers.
@@jeff1872t I took tablets prescribed by my Dr. I was good in less than a week. My daughter was good in 24hrs.
Thanks for your concern.
@@kristyraney5886 You know that shit did nothing for you right? Lol you people really are clowns. Lemme down some malaria meds for something we have a vaccine for. Super smart move brah.
amazing to see this in the mainstream. We need way more of this.
I’ve been listening to these guys since the beginning of the Dark horse podcast and it’s amazing how much they predict months before any media catches on.
Is this the evergreen college guy?
@@dam11232 yeah and people said he was being silly then worrying about a few extremists but now looks what’s happening...
The media doesn’t “catch on” to things.
The media reports in a very specific way for a very specific aim.
It is pure propaganda.
They only try to shape public narratives.
There are no accidents with the media.
It’s all on purpose no matter how it goes down.
@@imacashew. exactamundo
They were able to predict this because world renowned scientists were saying from the very beginning that it came from a lab.
The folks clapping don't know what Bret is even talking about.
A scared herd of cows desperately searching for a safe direction to run in.
@@JohnPritzlaff This symbolizes half the comments for this channel.
It was a weird clap. He just stated a fact and they all clapped like sheep. Well, they are sheep, so makes sense, I guess.
Sheep all of them. My Mom is one of those sheeple Democrats.
These humanities graduates really think they’re clever don’t they
I so appreciate and respect these two, and the Dark Horse podcast. They have been a bright light in a very dim world.
Hows that horse paste taste? Whats the best flavor?
Two of the most intelligent, free thinkers of our time. I'm so glad what happened to them at Evergreen. Not because of what happened to them, but that they now are available to all of us to read and listen to.
this was clear as day last summer, but the hysterical mob didn't allow any of us to even utter this thought.
Bill when are you going to have them back on to talk about ivermectin?!
I still can' believe that a lot of people have not heard of ivermectin. I watch Dr. Kory of the FLCCC testify to the effectiveness of ivermectin and he was quickly silenced.
@@dogfacedsoldier327 Do you watch the Darkhorse podcast with Bret Weinstein? He had a 3 1/2 hour interview with Dr. Robert Malone the inventor mRNA and and Steve Kirsch, who has done all the research into the adverse affects and data. If your interested, I would be happy to post the link.
Yes!!! Please do!!
He will have them back on for that once the BigTech "Medical" Oligopoly trips and falls permanently over it's own gaslighting religion.
@a h says the Oligopoly = obey, don't question the holey gaslighting
Bill has to be given alot of credit for have these great people on his show.
“Governments will use whatever technology is available to them to combat their primary enemy - which is their own population.”
Noam Chomsky
Government and the populace represent two aspects of the individual human...freedom and discipline. Government and populace are manifest extensions of man's struggle to serve and control himself.
Ironically this guy supports a larger government bureaucracy.
And now Noam is going along with the Great Reset globalist BS.
If you invent the virus and the cure, you become a billionaire... fauci
A guy that speak so much crap, and he is an extremist himself succeeded to get so many young minds to believe he is some intellectual that everything he speaks is true
I like bill maher when he actually shuts up long enough for a rational conversation to take place. No accusations, no politics, or agendas, just honest discussion.
Yes. Haven't seen that in quite a while
bahahahahaha. You can't see the agenda because you agree with it. I'm pleased to see this conversation finally happening, why didn't Bill dive into this last year, hmmm? no agenda, you make me LOL.
I didn't watch the whole show all I saw was this 9 minute video. Maybe he falls off his rocker and starts talking crap calling them conspiracy nutjobs immediately after this without any evidence. That would be the usual bill maher I click away from. Despite possibly asserting the virus was made in a lab; which most people with a brain can connects the dots, given the fact they had a whole year to do it; what is his politically motivated agenda in this 9 minute video? This video is an interview discussing the basic scientific knowledge of viruses and vaccines. He isn't leading their answers or making any presumptuous statements or questions is all I meant.
He should have asked this question 12 months ago. I'm sure I've seen him in other videos making a fool of himself during that time. Maybe even videos where he's acting like this couldn't be from a lab. I don't watch him all that often because of how closed minded he tends to be. I don't see that here so much.
So basically you like him when he agrees with you... but not when he challenges your preconceived (programmed) notions.
@@m.collier708 it a very different line of questioning from the preconceived (programmed) response, "Orange man bad. China good. Trump racist." argument. He and almost every other dope ran around for almost a year talking crazy. Why are you surprised I like him when he pulls his head out from his butt?
Trump had his problems, but he wanted to get us out of bed with China. I support that idea 100%.
That ship has unfortunately sailed.
@Fuck You about what? Or do you have no ability to make an argument only swear or insult people? You like us being in bed with Communists? Oh STFU...
@Fuck You well what? Well water, well wishes?
@Fuck You you argue about as well as Joe Biden makes cohesive sentences.
Trump is raking in profits from China; what on earth would lead you to believe he would give up that money?
Outside of some charismatic differences, Biden/Trump are kind of the same. The social policy differences are just there to distract us; they want us to fight about equal rights and trans military people so that we don't have time to argue about the stuff they absolutely must do to maintain their financial oligarchy. Both want to extend the police state and use the drug war to do it, both want tax havens for the born-into-wealth crowd...Trump is a little more evil on social policies, but the net results of either are 90% the same.
10 months later and a new varient at the door. They were spot on.
I have great respect for Bill Maher for asking these questions on the one hand, but his voice was part of the "whatever Trump says must be wrong" hysteria for 4 years on the other hand. But I do appreciate him asking these questions now.
This interview is both genuinely informative and equally terrifying.
It IS terrifying, and if you want to know more, read Yuri Deigin's article on Medium, and watch Bret Weinstein interview Yuri on the DarkHorse podcast.
Imagine If Trump would have been allowed to follow the lab theory
Bill, you’re the man for having Bret and Heather on and asking the questions that actually matter. ✊
Haven´t seen a rational discussion like this on Realtime in years. This is the right direction, Bill!
Congratulations to Bill, a host who lets his guests express their points, giving them the time they need. Particularly important, when your have guests like Bret and Heather.
I now know ANY time Bret Weinstein disagrees with the prevailing opinion that I’m going with him. He’s been correct so often he holds an incredibly rare commodity- credibility.
Absolutely. I love the way he comes from an honest place.
He’s got level 1000 ethos
I discovered him recently. What are some of the things he talked about in the past that were initially ridiculed but later turned out to be true?
He seeks truth, wherever that may lead him, even if it shatters preconceived, foundational notions, which most people are intellectually and emotionally unable to do
I'm with Heather Heying who says in this very interview that our method of arriving at the truth should not be based on our feelings about the people the information is coming from. I don't think he would want you promising such a thing in advance. I'm with you on the credibility, and I would add integrity, of these two.
Bill, please continue to have these conversations WITHOUT a political lean. We are sick of it and we want to talk about what is REALLY going on. This “conspiracy theory” was labelled right wing and yet here we are.
Couldn’t have said it better
Totally. I stopped watching REAL TIME a couple years ago due to all the MSNBC/ TYT type of radicals he had on pushing hate and division with their noses in the air. I used to love this show but it became all far left propaganda..no balance or reasoned dialogue..just conservative bashing.
First clip ive even watched in forever.
If Bill gets back to reasonable and logical discussions instead of partisan overload, I may tune back in
Bill Maher having conversations without a political lean? lghs
This guy was the one who said that "recession is worth it if Trump loses in 2020." What an *hole.
@semmel ONE video. It was because I watch Heather and Brets darkhorse podcast for over a year and am familiar with the Evergreen incident. I wanted to see how this interview went.
But...by all means... embarass your troll self some more
Lol guaranteed it would still be a "crazy right wing conspiracy theory" if that other guy won
Thank you for your bravery to talk about this Mr. Maher! Takes great courage to talk about this right now and challenge censorship! You're a hero man & we need your voice of reason
I love watching dark horse podcast. Both Heather and Bret are excellent at explaining complicated things. There were in fact teachers lol
And by "we politicized the issue" they mean Main Stream Media.
'We couldnt think for ourselves coz the msm didnt tell us to do that' and do they also ask s/o's permition to breath?
@@rebelmia4751 meaning the people that OWN all media and communications in the USA, the SAME wall street crooks that gave us the housing scam in 2008.....6 hedge funds own huge amounts of stock in ALL the media/communication companies in the USA~ (youtube, Google, Facebook, Twitter, CNN, Disney, etc)
Maher helped by criticizing everything orange man said during his term. And then tries to sit here and act like it was so obvious that we politicized things and that was bad.
He’s just as bad as the media.
Pack of liars they are.
Pure propaganda.
@@imacashew. yup....the "celebrities" benefit most from "inequity" but tow the leftists line so no one asks whether THEY are "privileged"...
@@andysott 100%
Movements like Occupy Wallstreet hit too close to home for those companies and wealthy people, so they've been using all forms of media to distract citizens from their next pursuits.
All this social justice bullshit, cancel culture, race obsession, and modern insanity in politics is a useful distraction by the media and their owners to prevent anymore unity among people that would threaten them like Occupy Wallstreet.
That protest brought people together in a serious way from different party lines and communities, and represented a massive threat to corrupt order of things. They needed ways to keep us bickering, and pushing people towards extremist views creates conflict and division.
Shouldn’t you apologize for a whole year of lying to your audience then?
He often comes around eventually. Especially once the far-left Liberals aren't on the show.
How did Bill lie to the audience? The Weinsteins are saying they THINK it came from a lab - they could be right, but this is just two peoples' opinions.
@@philosopher2king he didn't. He never claimed to know one way or the other. The right is just full of strawman arguments, arguing against shit that never happened. Or they nutpick, arguing against some statement or belief held by almost no one except the most extreme from the other side, as if that's the position of the entire side. Their feelings don't care about the facts. In their defense, as minor and pitiful as it may be, they probably honestly believe what they do because that's what their talking heads and pundits (notorious liars and establishment lackies) or Facebook posts told them, but they never actually heard anything themselves.
@@bccsivxx-xxivvii, I completely agree with the fallacy arguments on the right wing. Not sure who you mean by he or what this person was claiming.
@@philosopher2king I meant Bill Maher not lying the whole time. Granted I haven't seen every show but I don't recall him saying he was certain CV didn't come from a lab.
Thank you for this discussion. Finally some rationale discussion on the nature of this whole mess
Heather and Bret are two of my favorite people in the world, they are smart, intelligent, incredibly educated and intellectually honest. We need more of this more than ever.
same, read their book twice in like a month. obsessed with them lol
Hows that horse paste taste? Whats the best flavor?
When this first happened back in March/Feb. I said that it could have came from a lab. All my liberal friends said I need to "Check my facts" and I was wrong/conspiracy theory. Its interesting how its now back into the conversation......btw i'm not republican, I don't like both sides equally and don't like politics....just can't state an opinion without it being one side or the other these days, sad
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I just want to add, people do not have a clue what the chinese regime really is, its policies, how poor the average chinese person is, all the human rights abuse etc because ironically, being woke means if i say something then its racist, but at the same time here being woke means chinese human rights abuse will never even be addressed because you cant say anything negative about china. They cannot seperate valid theories that need investigating with "well you just hate asians then", its truly bizarre
@@Auron710??? 'woke' people are often talking about human rights abuse, the overreaching government, the censorship, and other awful bits about China.
When you say it could have come from a lab are you suggesting it's lab made or that it's a wild type they had and it got released?
@@Elrikkardo I'm saying they used gain of function techniques and then it escaped the lab. While the bioweapon aspect should definitely be looked at because people have used any new weapon at their disposal throughout history I don't buy that theory because this was an internationally funded project.
UPDATE:
Bret and Heather took a youtube strike this week for discussing theses that are not "accepted" at this current date.. we've all seen this movie before....
@LoS fan 🙌🏾 Darkhorse podcast
@LoS fan 🙌🏾 yeap.. I'm Brazilian... CZcams took 1 video down about Ivermectin studies, and they received 2 strikes so far(dark horse podcast channel). Now they are streaming on Odysee, as if they are conspiracy theorists... it is incredible the amount of censorship! the repercussion is huge! they won't be able to hold this information for long.
@LoS fan 🙌🏾 now they have started posting in another platform: Odissey
They nailed it and youtube has demonetized and censored them. Disturbing to say the least.
Brett & Heather (Dark horse podcast) were my guiding light & steady ground throughout the first 2 years of the pandemic & continue to be a voice of reason for my family! I will forever be grateful to them for bravely speaking the truth & creating a public platform for healthy scientific discourse.
They are evolutionary biologists, both former professors, parents, married, etc & 2 of the greatest thinkers of our time.
We live in a time when people are told "what to think" instead of being taught "how to think", which has unfortunately lead to a lot of division & confusion among the people throughout the past few years.
They teach people how to think like a scientist -- how to identify reliable resources, evaluate scientific evidence, how to determine if a study is designed properly & what the outcome might suggest & what it does not suggest (because that is also important), how to separate fact from opinion & avoid being manipulated by mis/disinformation in the news & on the internet, etc.
They arm people with the skills they need to make evidence-based healthcare decisions & lifestyle choices for themselves & their families, and for that they are a blessing to the world.
I remember when if you said it started in the Lab- you were banned from social media.
When the pandemic started every time I did a google search for “ the possibility of the virus escaping from a lad” instantly I would see “ No it’s not “ how on earth did anyone know if it was or wasn’t ?! It was just the very beginning of the pandemic and the google totally wanting to dismiss it was the most conspiratorial thing I have ever seen.
Because they're dumb and don't realize how they tip their hand before showing us the cards.
Much like they did when they made a fuss about Trump looking into Biden a whole two years before the Democrats even held their party elections. "Its politically motivated!" they say, "He's going after a rival," they exclaimed, despite Biden being a private citizen and not even bothering to declare his intentions to run at the time. Golly gee wouldn't you know it Biden is now President and that very sticky issue just magically disappeared.
I've stopped using Google search engine. It really hit me hard when I noticed I couldn't find things on there that you could on other engines. You'd search for something like lab leak and the first page would pretty much be a wall of fact checkers whose integrity is wholly questionable. I remember feeling really grim at that point and realising how compromised big tech was.
I love Bret and i'm so happy he's out there having these discussions. Bret and Heather have a good podcast.
Yes, but remember, the CLOWN Sam Harris whom I SO appreciated for 15 years has now taken to VILIFYING Bret and Robert Malone ... calling him ALEX JONES. Mr. ANTI-DOGMA + Anti-Conirmation-Bias has been infected with BOTH; proving NO MIND is immune to it. I can only hope someone finds a cure for this amongst public intellectuals who were formerly the societal immune system to the bullshit! But now, the precise people Harris used to DEBATE (Dinesh D'Souza and GLEN GREENWALD) both speak more rationally than he.
I could cite dozens of examples but adding a hour of writing won't make this get read more often nor will it do my income any good. But OBSERVE the nonsense he's engaged in.
Hows that horse paste taste? Whats the best flavor?
Bill…. please continue to periodically host this couple, they both speak so clearly and factually about the confusion others seem to procreate.
WOW!!! Bill puts truth on his show, what has the world come to.
someone check if hell is freezing over
Yes, waiting for the catch
Only a year later, when its 'safe' to do so.....Monday morning quarterbacking.
I think bill is going back to his roots
"Now that Trump is gone you are ALLOWED TO think for yourself" - Democrats
So not true lol
“Now that Trump is gone, you’re still expected to think what we tell you to think.” Fixed it for you.
So much quite the obvious opposite
The new "Critical Thinking" and "fact checking" = "Only WE tell ewe WHAT to think for yourselves! Obey, or Else, Blasphemers!"
Democrats would rather kill MILLIONS of people than admit Trump was right, there are treatments available, and they are still killing people today covering up IVM!
The "perverse incentives" comment also applies to climate research in that it pays scientists in this field to maintain the 'climate emergency' rhetoric in order to maintain their funding streams.
One thing I love about bill, he never try’s to suppress conversation. Always willing to talk about anything and everything.
Oh it was politicised, I wonder who did that? 😂😂
hysterical mass media
Trump, Fox News, and right wingers created a whole movement around the "freedom" of not wearing a mask. That's who politicized it.
@@tw8661 In this polarised world everyone starts the story where it makes them feel justified. Remember the media and experts lied to people for months saying that masks don't work and are unnecessary. Also the cloth masks are not very effective.
Well said👍
@@tw8661 You are precisely the kind of person he is talking about. I understand it's difficult for you to see it right now... perhaps some day you will.
FINALLY!!!! A discussion about this possibility!!! THANK YOU FOR NOT SHUTTING IT DOWN!
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He's being canceled by the lunatic progressive left as we speak. Even liberals are having their free speech taken away.
The left will shut this down because it's something Trump suggested as a possibility.
SHUT IT DOWN
@@glennv3176 Actually no. Partisan Politics and Science dont work. I can differentiate the two. But thats just me, this is something thats VERY likely to happen. Its called Biological Weapons. The Chinese are going to lie through their teeth
@@GOODNOIGHT not just the Chinese. The NIH funded this research directly. Now if we can only figure out who was running the NIH at the time...
Nice piece from Bill. I used to despise his smugness, but can happily say checking in on his show once in a long while gives me hope. Without explicitly admitting that he has subtly changed his world view, he has shown the ability to listen and grow his perspective.
@@harrym9655 I'll check your link out. That said, I've heard that line from many. Am not here to defend those two, but they are most definitely scientists. As am I, and moreso an electrical & biomedical engineer that is left to apply science to something practical. The amount of clueless folk that presume to call scientific discussion "grifting" without having a clue as to what is truely going on is off the charts....
It's always refreshing to hear from real scientists. Due to this technocratic anti-science censorship, it's been difficult to find objective analysis on these important topics.
Hows that horse paste taste? Whats the best flavor?
@@jeff1872tFlavor is not a factor when it’s doctor prescribed in pill form designed for humans.
Lol. Did you delete your reply after realizing how dumb it was?
World: "Did you create this virus in a lab?"
China: "What?! No! How dare you?!"
World: "Okay, cool. That's what we thought. Thanks."
China: “It came from the US Military”
WHO: "Be quiet Taiwan."
@ziggy bean Funded by Fauci and the US also with their researchers working there...
Can not believe someone still blame China now... Google Fort Detrick ....czcams.com/video/cdKI5qOF_a8/video.html
It was funded by the U.S.
Wake tf up.
The random clapping at the wrong time is so fascinating to me. Reminds me of David Lynch’s Rabbits with its ominous ill-timed laugh track.
I’m going to find out one day.
Every now and then Bill Maher restores my faith in Bill Maher
👏👏 the most coherent discussion I've heard so far, now this is where we should start from 👏
People have been saying this since day one🤦🏾♂️
That’s what they said 🤦🏻♂️
Right wingers...but the left was too busy playing identity politics they dismissed this and all scientists for their political views
Unfortunately, not on mainstream media.
Unfortunately they mixed in insane conspiracy theories along with it. Things like Bill Gates caused the pandemic to inject us with micro-chips and other nutty nonsense. That's part of the reason people didn't accept this line of thinking
A lot of the people saying it have been idiots unfortunately.
This has aged BEAUTIFULLY!
Surprisingly impressed by Bill Maher’s interview. There needs to be a white house press briefing letting Brett Weinstein and Dr. Pierre Kory speak free and honestly. JRE episode 1671 Is a very important interview with Brett Weinstein and Dr. Pierre Kory.
thank you Jon Stewart for doing what no other prominent celebrity voice would
Ignore ideology when you’re pursuing factual information. And be ready to defend your life.
I never thought I'd never see the Dark Horse Podcast people on an HBO show!
It seems very odd to me. Bret and Heather opposed blm, so they are defo proven racists. How do racists get on a semi woke show? That's sarcasm, of course.
Here's where my mind went. B &H has lots of street cred whichever side of poilitics. I think most know this plandemic stinks and is agenda driven. I don't think it's a pandemic, but even those that think it is agree on the agenda and stink factor. There's a growing faction that thinks there is no virus at all. There certainly has been no proper isolation of the virus, w/ all the steps of Koch's postulates published. There's a growing contingent of docs and scientists who are getting more restless of the proper isolation methods being absent. Not saying I'm right, but it's just where my mind went that to reign that growing faction back in, throw the lab theory back out there in a big way. Slap it on the table, w/ scientists that have lots of respect from each political pole.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 I’d hardly call Maher woke
Yeah no kidding
@@saintejeannedarc9460 Maher 's never been woke . remember his take on islam? The guy is consistent. I'm not an american and I know it. He calls bullshit out , he always has. He's smart.
I just want to say to Bill thank you for having these discussions.
Bill - great guests - you are right - we should have paid more attention
Conspiracy theorist is a derogatory term given to anyone who thinks critically and questions the mainstream narrative.....
Thats because the media is capable and rather efficient at gaslighting people into believing what they want them to believe.
When you have 90% of the news sources under the thumb of a half-dozen or so major corporations the fact they all collude on reporting stories shouldn't at all be surprising.
Well, you’re giving a lot of people who identify as “conspiracy theorists” too much credit, there’s a whole lotta BS floating around in that community, and unfortunately real conspiracies get caught up in all the BS. If you believe the earth is flat, sandy hook was full of crisis actors, and COVID is a lab leak, you’re not a critical thinker, you’re just a conspiracy theorist who sometimes gets it right.
@@mikejunior5825 You do realize the media admitted to covering up the covid lab leak theory?
But hey, that never stopped Democrats from pushing the Russian Collusion Conspiracy.... until it became untrue and they just forgot about it all together.
@@Zombie1Boy sounds like you didnt understand my reply
@@mikejunior5825 The only difference between a conspiracy theorist these days and the truth is roughly a years time between when the media stops obfuscating the truth to pull the wool over the eyes of fools like you and when they finally get around to reporting "the truth".
I understood your reply and how dumb it was by showing you the Russian Collusion Conspiracy that Democrats all believed as the untarnished truth before forgetting about it because they were all nothing but tools parroting what their overlords want them to think, just like you.
Amazing how people will only entertain this topic NOW...a year later...wonder why?
Because their objective has been completed. Just like now, suddenly, the left wants unity and a meeting in the middle. Where was that plea this summer?
Because the orange man was saying it last year and the left automatically took the opposite stance to anything he said...the thing that shocked me the most was the left defending our military presence in the very countries that they’ve been protesting our involvement in for the last 20 years... just because Trump took that stance.
Time Magazine. Fortified election. Secret cabal.
But Orange Man Bad.
I like when "people" is used as a euphemism, very gracious of you.
TDS is a powerful phenomena.
So happy to see Professors from my college on the Bill Maher show. I felt bad how things went down with the when I was attending Evergreen College, but it seems like they are doing well.
I didn't know Heather had such a beautiful, clear voice. She usually holds her chin up and "side sprays" her breath into the desk mic.
I love that there’s no warning label from CZcams on this video.
Well, the election is over, so...
Bill needs to lose his audience and start up his own podcast. This old world media is a dying breed.
Thank 👏🏼 You👏🏼
It may be old but it's still the most powerful medium in the world. People who don't even like Bill still watch his show. Podcasts are great but they only reach the fans. There is no channelsurfing in podcast listening.
@@skygun5013 youre thinking old school - the ratings of a good popular podcast lap highly rated tv shows in pure viewerships by almost orders of magnitudes at this point. And good podcast guests often spring you to other podcasts. There is all sorts of "channel-surfing" and cross promoting to be had
@@steveg6035 Yeah tell that to the cast of big bang theory, who are set for life with royalties from syndication. They didn't drop out in third season to pursue a life in podcasting. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for podcast. But hey, even Disney + promotes the old school method with showing mandalorion episodes one at a time. Power of tv.
Agreed. Podcast and long form without commercials is how we all prefer to communicate. No one talks to a friend in fast 3 min segments and stops for commercials, its silly to think we ever wanted content in that manner.
I am surprised this video is out for the public to see!
Watching from South Africa
I'm so old I can recall when even mentioning "lab leak" was enough to make some people melt down, screaming "racist!", as they started literally shaking.
Funny how this is being recommended now that it’s basically confirmed
An accidental leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology is, by a large margin, the best explanation we have so far for the origins of this pandemic.
I know, how is it not obvious? Sadly, not mentioned here, are the many U.S. interests in, and support of, the Wuhan lab. One can only hope that those involved in the cover-up take measures to ensure that it never happens again. Blaming and finger-pointing should have no part in this discussion, but it's human nature I suppose.
Makes a fuckton more sense than "some guy at the wrong soup"
For the seventh time, it's unclear whether China did this, look up Nathan Rich and Cyrus Jannsen videos for preexisting C19 elsewhere [9 us states, Brazil, Spain, France, Italy, Netherlands and Australia via blood samples donated, and sewage] earliest being March 1-12, 2019 in Barcelona, Spain.
What has recently come to fore again is the Fauci NIH special funding due to his sidekick spilling the beans on Australian TV. It was old news that the NIH was involved and probably gifted the IP to China back around February, 2020 where you could hear Chris Martenson explain it.
Wuhan was where it was amplified, not where it originated. Look up Zach Bush MD's videos starting with:
GMOs: Engineering the Nature out of Humanity, Webinar Replay with Dr. Zach Bush
in order to understand the biome and amplification.
Unique comment: look up the genome trees used to find the exact origin, apparently it is currently believed to be Guangzhou, which is hundreds of miles south of Wuhan.
Don't settle for lazy unsettled claims, and please don't repeat them ad nauseum.
Nothing to indicate that it was an accident. Btw.
Sure dude, totally accidental, definitely not related to our elections or tariffs or any of that. Happy fucking accident.
Bill I have been a long time viewer and thanks to having these guests I started watching their podcast
Brett & Heather are 2 wonderful human beings that only seek to make the world a better place.
Wow I love these guys. Their campus went wild on them while I was at a university not too far away. I sincerely admire both of these wonderful people
I wonder if Bill realizes he's part of what caused this whole problem with whether it came from a lab or not
100%
@@Mattsretiring Bill was one of the first to suggest that it came from a lab.
@Rick Sanchez PhD In what context is your comment relatable?
@Rick Sanchez PhD So, is Bill enabling the conversation? The conflict? A disagreement? A racist rant against China? I referenced that Bill was among the first commentator to interview scientists referencing a Chinese lab introducing the virus. So your vacuous comment was completely useless as an informative statement.
@Rick Sanchez PhD Actually, he rants against cancel culture. Since you're so wrong about that one, I can not take you seriously about anything else that you can't seem to effectively expand on.
This is an amazing step forward. Big balls Real Time
There is rarely a reason to give a "thumbs up" to an episode of Real Time but this is one of them.
Probably one of the Bill's top ten interviews.
It's a good interview but slanted to ideas which Bill agrees with.
@@MorganTheva No he used to talk about wet markets a lot.
@@mikekrier1465 I am aware but he's never brought on scientist to point out how North American industrial development and construction has caused the spread of Lyme disease from Connecticut, now up into Canada. It's hypocritical to blame China when we have our own issues. He also ignores how this argument leads to unconstructive policies and behaviors which make it harder to accomplish the goal of bringing disease and it's spread under control. Persuasion is better than force and the facts support this. It's very good to have Biden repairing the WHO's funding and esteem.
@@MorganTheva disagree. First, it looks like WHO ran cover for the lab-leak. They cannot be allowed to do this. Second, if we know it’s a created virus, we treat it differently than one we expect to behave naturally. The playbook is different. For example, sarscov2 struggles outside in open air, yet we’ve insisted on people staying in lockdown, where person to person transmission is more likely
Thanks for releasing this. I've been following the Weinstein's for several years now. Even before their Darkhorse Podcasts. They have a great ability to explain complex ideas in a way that is understandable to the layman! They are progressive, but do not engage in the 'mediathink' that is so prevalent today. They think for themselves and have their own educated opinions. They don't sink into the toxic politics of today. I hope you have them Back on!
@@harrym9655 yea it's crazy how people can be so easily fooled. The IDW folks have a lot of billionaire money to help then tho!
The worst thing you can do is dismiss any speech because you can be wrong.
Have them back on the show Bill!
Wow. An adult conversation on mainstream media. Did we travel back in time 10 years?
Was it really like that in the past? I'm too young to remember what it used to be like
Bret calling it in April last year, why does no one seem to listen to him and Eric at the most crucial times?
Why? Did they deliver any sort of proof?
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@@popcult5662 Is there anything 'new' compared to this interview? Come on, "Bret calling it", "why does no one seem to listen to him" - you cannot prove this sort of thing in an interview or in a debate...
I didn’t say they’d proven it, but that they were having the conversation of plausibility when no one else was willing to
@@popcult5662 And I asked for proof?! Because what do we do with some plausibillity? And then - if this virus came from the lab - what next? Will this allow us to travel back in time and change something? The interest in this 'hypothesis' is so obvious - it's the from the exactly same kind of interest, that would want to hide the - supposed - 'lab leak'...
"a virus that is adapted to indoor transmission is a bit conspicuous" that is fucking gold. i wonder what incredible mechanisms a virus would need to be able to spread more effectively between people in an elevator rather than stood on a beach in a gale force winds?
Explains "Lockdown" in a whole nutshell. Stay indoors so you have a bigger chance of dying!
Why is it controversial to explore what has happened?? We have lost our minds and I hope we can get them back