EU4 but EUROPE is PRIMITIVE

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  • čas přidán 1. 09. 2022
  • In this Europa Universalis IV (EU4) video I have sent Europe back to the Dark Ages with the institution of feudalism not being present on the continent. Meanwhile, Asian nations from Japan to China and India will be thriving with the institutions of Renaissance, Colonialism, and Printing Press all but guaranteed to spawn near them.
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Komentáře • 160

  • @mackycabangon8945
    @mackycabangon8945 Před rokem +675

    i think if u wanna nerf europe u have to change trade. Like make the end nodes Canton/Hangzhou, Gujarat/Coromandel and Malacca/Nippon

    • @airking2883
      @airking2883 Před rokem +93

      exactly,trade is such a vital part of the game but often overlooked at how much impact it can have over the course of the game.extra income effectively is extra mana through advisors and extra manpower via mercs.

    • @Exedra9
      @Exedra9 Před rokem +61

      Yeah I absolutely despise the fact that end nodes are predetermined... Makes the game totally eurocentric

    • @Real_Gigachaddi
      @Real_Gigachaddi Před rokem +70

      @@Exedra9 well it was historical true.
      Following discovery of America.. Europe was flooded with silver and gold giving them purchasing power..(Italians acted as middle men between Muslims and Christians following Ottoman sanctions over conquest of Granada etc)
      While discovery of potato and other things from new world and increased health spending through new money and emancipation ultimately resulted in population boom in Europe and thus made it a consumption economic power with much purchasing power..

    • @hotman_pt_
      @hotman_pt_ Před rokem +64

      @@Real_Gigachaddi i just wish they were dinamic. You can't even steer trade from North america to Iberia or from europe in general to the americas. I know its supposed to be historical and the engine problably doesn't support this, but would open so many new scenarios

    • @Exedra9
      @Exedra9 Před rokem +39

      @@Real_Gigachaddi this is not a history game, this is an alt history game. Hence why the trade flow makes no sense for this purpose.

  • @adamdarkazanli
    @adamdarkazanli Před rokem +220

    the reason why Europeans will always do well despite nerfs is trade. all trade nodes end in europe which will ultimatley make them rich. switch the flow of trade and see what happens

    • @KofteG61
      @KofteG61 Před rokem +18

      Switching trade flow would be really interesting

    • @spencerbuck1074
      @spencerbuck1074 Před rokem +7

      Do you think a mod like this would work if you didn't want to bother trying to change trade directions and just gave massive trade debuffs to every country? It'd be the easy way out but you'd be taking trade out of the game pretty much. Maybe it'd balance things out.

    • @adamdarkazanli
      @adamdarkazanli Před rokem +6

      @@spencerbuck1074 thats would just make everyone poorer. switching trade flows incentivizes eastern contries to conquer west and increase trade. i dont know how much the AI considers this when planning but it would be cool to see if it changes anything

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem

      E‎ ‎

    • @Octavian999
      @Octavian999 Před 11 měsíci

      @@KofteG61 There is a mod called Reverse Trade Nodes that does exactly that fyi

  • @turkepic3637
    @turkepic3637 Před rokem +118

    Chewy: Hmm an Asiacentric world shuld be cool!
    Ottoblob: But what about the me-centric world?

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +15

      Sadly we can’t escape them

    • @ramp597
      @ramp597 Před rokem +1

      EU4 is made by turkish nationalists anyway, Byzantium and Armenia should be the strongest nations in 1444 historically

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +3

      @@ramp597 lol shut up dude

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem

      E‎

    • @craigstephenson7676
      @craigstephenson7676 Před rokem

      Anatolia is in Asia

  • @Acciyn
    @Acciyn Před rokem +141

    Have you done a run a with every single tag independent at the start? As in No HRE, No Daimios, No vassals and every single releasable tag having been released and independent. If not, that might be a fun idea. A true free for all

  • @tomahawkam
    @tomahawkam Před rokem +41

    I think Luca got Renaissance from an event! Definitely helped Europe catch up quicker than they otherwise would have

  • @walkseva
    @walkseva Před rokem +72

    It's scenarios like these where I wish eu4's trade system was more dynamic. Even with the institution and idea buffs, trade flow messes with AI behavior and flushes Europe with cash, even if they're in the gutter.

    • @MyFunnyVids888
      @MyFunnyVids888 Před rokem +8

      Yeah the best way to nerf europe in the game is to purposely make sure they are as decentralized as possible so they cant monopolize trade. Its weird. I agree that trade needs to be more dynamic like if some of the missions changed the flow of trade, made new trade regions, or made certain nodes into end nodes personally that would create a much better roleplay/historical as well as a-historical play

  • @Imperial_stroopwafel
    @Imperial_stroopwafel Před rokem +57

    8:14 I love how those polish borders look a lot like the modern ones

  • @AliArda_Dalseckin
    @AliArda_Dalseckin Před rokem +99

    I think it would be nicer if you showed where the last three institutions spawned.

  • @reeceshugrue6167
    @reeceshugrue6167 Před rokem +7

    Chewbert: *Nerfs Europe*
    Europe to Asia: "So you think you have friends in high places, with the power to put us on the run..."

  • @Luuuma7
    @Luuuma7 Před rokem +55

    Finally, an accurate 1444

    • @Aluunyax3
      @Aluunyax3 Před rokem

      europe was so primitive it colonised the world 😭 we wuz kangs

    • @johnyg1939
      @johnyg1939 Před rokem +8

      Exactly, Europe wasn’t so advanced as we think.

    • @mithea6946
      @mithea6946 Před rokem +8

      @@johnyg1939 literally conquered 90% planet

    • @wtechafk34
      @wtechafk34 Před rokem +8

      @@mithea6946 Legit, the Europeans don't have enough resources so they went colonial. Starting with trading ofc.

    • @johnyg1939
      @johnyg1939 Před rokem +3

      @@mithea6946 In that time they were pretty weak, what made them strong were the resources from the new world.

  • @rsabinioan
    @rsabinioan Před rokem +10

    Should’ve also changed every european country’s government to tribal so they start with 1adm 1dip and 1mil tech

  • @Foaklore
    @Foaklore Před rokem +26

    Definitely need to change trade to in order to properly achieve the goal of making Asia the centre of power.
    The way it was done here Europe still has the powerful nodes and end nodes and all that.
    I've always had a similar idea to this video in my head. Having the tech and institutions changed was just the top of the iceberg however.
    This is shown with how quickly the Europeans caught up even with their disadvantage, still ending up with many top great powers at the end.

  • @shanedussault740
    @shanedussault740 Před rokem +4

    You can complain about the ottomans but they bordered multiple nations that had feudalism that they naturally want to expand into or ally before the tech difference matters.
    Meaning they get to absolutely crush the eastern europeans
    As for franceeurope staying relatively low tech and the early eco means no one around them had the economy tech or ideas to defend themselves and you see a similar situation as the ottomans esp with the franco otto alliance giving france access to institutions earlier than theur neighbours as well

  • @zantom5888
    @zantom5888 Před rokem +4

    when he said "It's Tonkin Time" my life felt complete

  • @mackycabangon8945
    @mackycabangon8945 Před rokem +38

    also can you make the hre all daimyos?
    or make uberbuffed nations for the lost cultures?

  • @vegito9008
    @vegito9008 Před rokem +5

    Morocco forming andalusia is just ... Beautiful

    • @holysayrus
      @holysayrus Před rokem +2

      No, the Ottomans made Andalusia.

    • @vegito9008
      @vegito9008 Před rokem +2

      @@holysayrus the ottobros help morocco form it

  • @jinvonastrea1141
    @jinvonastrea1141 Před rokem +5

    It seems like the AI almost certainly find its way to screw up when the crisis of the Ming dynasty triggered.

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +2

      Lol never underestimate the AIs ability to destroy themselves

  • @sean7412
    @sean7412 Před rokem +5

    Drew Durnil sounds different

  • @GwainSagaFanChannel
    @GwainSagaFanChannel Před rokem +4

    EU4 but Ming remains the dominant technological power forever and finally starts using gunpowder for guns

  • @ASiemers
    @ASiemers Před rokem +9

    This is honestly an amazing piece of work, very unique!

  • @solinvictus4367
    @solinvictus4367 Před rokem +1

    I think Lucca was able to spawn the Renaissance because there are a few Italian events that force spread the Renaissance in Italy

  • @cosmicpearl5497
    @cosmicpearl5497 Před rokem +6

    Asia Universalis, amazing

    • @wow-roblox8370
      @wow-roblox8370 Před rokem +1

      and 2/3 of the top 3 people in AU, were from europe...

  • @majdavlk649
    @majdavlk649 Před rokem +3

    I think there are events to spread institutions around. thats why lucca got renesance

  • @CalvinNoire
    @CalvinNoire Před rokem +3

    Ming is the biggest 50/50 ever.

  • @MahsaKaerra
    @MahsaKaerra Před rokem +4

    I wonder how much more the nations in Asia would have conquered if the direction of trade flow had been changed in their favour as well.
    Other than national missions, or rarely incentivised by leader traits, territorial expansion doesn't happen when it is not economically advantageous to do so.
    Could you make all the old world trade nodes go the other way? See if that changes anything.

  • @archimedes6154
    @archimedes6154 Před rokem +5

    Well i gotta say this time youve outdone yourself
    That is actually fucking genius to fuck with institutions and technologies
    Like as usual

  • @dylanroemmele906
    @dylanroemmele906 Před rokem +1

    "Vijayanagar has Icelandic Ideas"

  • @jonnyf6664
    @jonnyf6664 Před rokem +3

    we need eastern rome to be like this in ck well like the ottomans

  • @barneythepurpledinosaur7002

    Granada be like: what about me???

  • @RhombonianKnight
    @RhombonianKnight Před rokem +3

    This Korea is truly the Best Korea.

  • @viduradurina655
    @viduradurina655 Před rokem

    Europe when France still end up in 2nd: All that for a drop of blood

  • @mudzsri
    @mudzsri Před rokem +2

    did I see the purple phoenix rise and fall in the timeline?

  • @louisqueneau6140
    @louisqueneau6140 Před rokem +2

    lucca getting the renaissance might be from cardinals spreading institutions papal thing

    • @AndreLuis-gw5ox
      @AndreLuis-gw5ox Před rokem

      Institution spread does not spawn institutions, it probably got it from an event

  • @user-zi4wx3uw1y
    @user-zi4wx3uw1y Před rokem +2

    YOU GOTTA MAKE THIS A MOD WE CAN DOWNLOAD

  • @klakier19901
    @klakier19901 Před rokem +1

    "If they could do it..
    they'd be here"

  • @turkeykillerex9509
    @turkeykillerex9509 Před rokem +4

    How about europe where everyone is a migratory tribal country?
    America has no tribes however, they are reformed monarchies instead (most are OPMs)

  • @ChrisMcKee087
    @ChrisMcKee087 Před rokem +1

    Europe still has much better trade routing, better terrain for development and trade goods than Asia. You would probably have to completely overhaul the game mechanics for Europe to actually be nerfed.

  • @bestsynth4102
    @bestsynth4102 Před rokem

    OK, one thing: The printing press was made in China before 1000 CE.

  • @opossumqueen4524
    @opossumqueen4524 Před rokem

    I like this video a whole lot. It was nice to see Korea get big and beefy.

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 Před rokem +1

    Hmm yes the lore of what if asia is the dominant Continent

  • @theskycavedin9592
    @theskycavedin9592 Před rokem

    MOST ACCURATE EU4

  • @alperentube23
    @alperentube23 Před 17 dny

    Looks like Moroccans made a Re-Reconquista in Iberia with the aid of Ottomans. Btw I like to see Korea having China :D

  • @Fremonth
    @Fremonth Před rokem

    This video :
    Me : *holding tears*

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC Před rokem +1

    What about a game where all the smaller post colonial tags (including stuff like Vermont and Paraguay but not like the US) exist in 1444?

  • @grubygrzib6308
    @grubygrzib6308 Před rokem +9

    I hate to see Ottomans and France still being the strongest even when europe was nerfed significantly

  • @Rullino32
    @Rullino32 Před rokem +1

    Can you do the same but with High American tech natives vs primitive Old World?

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Před rokem

    Can you do one where everyone starts out as a single territory tribe? Unless that's not possible.

  • @pierreproudhon9008
    @pierreproudhon9008 Před rokem

    Kasanje double emperor when!?We need to show the world our true FLAG

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +1

      We must make Kansanje great again!

  • @helix5441
    @helix5441 Před rokem +4

    Maybe write a script to give the ottomans big instability and unrest like a custom disaster to help change things up from them always dominating

  • @nikolajsteffensen6578

    just one game i want to see a big strong denmark. just one game XD

  • @discorddraqonequus8436
    @discorddraqonequus8436 Před rokem +2

    Korea is croasia

  • @bshbhyuh
    @bshbhyuh Před rokem

    10:40 I see what you did there

  • @dbd978
    @dbd978 Před rokem

    is there a modpack for this? this sounds interesting.

  • @nyoodmono4681
    @nyoodmono4681 Před 8 měsíci

    The people with the purple hair in California are pooping on the streets

  • @autoloadable
    @autoloadable Před rokem

    Asia Universalis I Spicy!

  • @ikergonzalezmartin2201
    @ikergonzalezmartin2201 Před rokem +1

    Did byzantium win against Venice?

  • @carlose4314
    @carlose4314 Před rokem

    You should reverse the trade flow

  • @lastword8783
    @lastword8783 Před rokem

    Mamluks still died to Ottomans 😂😂

  • @Idoexist._.
    @Idoexist._. Před 9 měsíci

    Basically balancex

  • @welersoncarvalho2471
    @welersoncarvalho2471 Před rokem

    Weird french flag at the end lol

  • @user-lp5hc9tz4u
    @user-lp5hc9tz4u Před rokem

    6:55 how to rotate the map?

  • @Xylos101
    @Xylos101 Před rokem +1

    Can you mod EU without gas? Oh wait. Nvm

  • @sawyersprott
    @sawyersprott Před rokem +1

    Comment for engagement 😤👌🏻

  • @applefreeze2692
    @applefreeze2692 Před rokem

    Asia Universalis IV 💀

  • @benismann
    @benismann Před rokem +1

    you didnt do anything with trade
    that's why

  • @jinvonastrea1141
    @jinvonastrea1141 Před rokem

    Also where can I get this mod???

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +1

      I didn’t upload it but I might have to tweak some stuff and upload it

  • @ApocalypticDepths68
    @ApocalypticDepths68 Před rokem

    Based

  • @Everest3000
    @Everest3000 Před rokem

    Anyone know what map mod he uses?

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem

      Peep the mod pack in the description

  • @Terrados1337
    @Terrados1337 Před rokem +1

    Wait ... Who formed andalusia? :D

    • @hotman_pt_
      @hotman_pt_ Před rokem

      morocco

    • @Terrados1337
      @Terrados1337 Před rokem

      @@hotman_pt_ thank you :)

    • @holysayrus
      @holysayrus Před rokem

      No, the Ottomans liberated Andalusia.

    • @Terrados1337
      @Terrados1337 Před rokem

      great now I am confused :D

    • @holysayrus
      @holysayrus Před rokem

      @@Terrados1337 liberated granada when ottoman defeated spain.(ı think):D

  • @somemeansfish8987
    @somemeansfish8987 Před rokem

    Asia univeresalis

  • @ChrissieBear
    @ChrissieBear Před rokem

    What's with EU4 players saying Benin wrong? xD

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem

      I’d like to see you pronounce 90% of English/american places correctly 😘

  • @mahirozturk9040
    @mahirozturk9040 Před rokem

    ottoman hmm

  • @Podzhagitel
    @Podzhagitel Před rokem +1

    5:48 that’s just real life tbh

  • @taytay1568
    @taytay1568 Před rokem

    Hi

  • @MGoogle3146
    @MGoogle3146 Před rokem +1

    I don't think you understand what based and redpilled means.

    • @Chewbert
      @Chewbert  Před rokem +1

      I know exactly what it means