A Beautiful Proof of Ptolemy's Theorem.

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • Ptolemy's Theorem seems more esoteric than the Pythagorean Theorem, but it's just as cool. In fact, the Pythagorean Theorem follows directly from it. Ptolemy used this theorem in his astronomical work. Google for the historical details.
    Thanks to this video for the idea of this visual proof: • VISUAL PROOF - PTOLEMY... . There are others that use the same three-triangle method too, but none that I've seen present a complete proof, which I believe I've done here. I have been told that this proof may have first been published by William Derrick and James Hirstein, "Proof Without Words: Ptolemy’s Theorem", in The College Mathematics Journal, Vol. 43, No. 5 (November 2012), p. 386.
    Animations were created using Desmos Graphing Calculator (www.desmos.com...) with the help of DesmosPlayer, a browser plug-in that I wrote to control the graph (github.com/Mat...) Screen capture turned that into a video; edited with iMovie.
    Music: “Off Broadway”, iMovie Song ( • Off Broadway | iMovie ... ), “Acoustic Sunrise “, iMovie Song ( • Acoustic Sunrise | iMo... )

Komentáře • 131

  • @Aiden-xn6wo
    @Aiden-xn6wo Před 2 lety +93

    This is one of the best proofs of Ptolemy's Theorem ever.

  • @sakinsadaf4068
    @sakinsadaf4068 Před 2 měsíci +4

    0:20 DAMNN!!! I never saw any geometric proof more elegant than this one. You deserve million views.

  • @xvv25
    @xvv25 Před 2 lety +14

    A beautiful presentation of a beautiful proof. I enjoyed it immensely. My one suggestion is that you may want to mention that it was first published (as far as I know) in 2012:
    William Derrick, James Hirstein, "Proof Without Words: Ptolemy’s Theorem", in The College Mathematics Journal, Vol. 43, No. 5 (November 2012), p. 386.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you! I'm glad you liked it, and I appreciate your letting me know the source of this proof. I have added a reference to the article in the video's description.

  • @Sciencedoneright
    @Sciencedoneright Před 2 lety +9

    The is literally the best proof I have ever seen of this theorem, like seriously this is pretty amazing

  • @cupatelj52
    @cupatelj52 Před 2 lety +8

    This video is very good, thank you. You deserve more views and likes.

    • @draganminic4928
      @draganminic4928 Před 2 lety +1

      Potpuno se slazhem, ali nema mnogo ljudi koji mogu da vide lepotu u dokazu neke teoreme.

  • @affankhan7465
    @affankhan7465 Před 2 lety +3

    Dazzled me for a while!
    This channel & this video is so under-rated.
    More power to you!

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell1 Před 2 lety +12

    Beautiful! I love the symmetry of this proof.

  • @sreekar9391
    @sreekar9391 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this beautiful, articulate and intuitive proof
    🤗

  • @geoellinas
    @geoellinas Před 3 lety +7

    Beautiful theorem. The pioneering ancient Greeks!

  • @shlomi8307
    @shlomi8307 Před rokem

    Your channel deserves million views my friend you are a good guy

  • @mustbegross
    @mustbegross Před rokem

    Finding this video when i was looking for ptolemy astronomy. Even this isnt what I looking for, I'm not disappointed and even thoroughly enjoying it 😊

  • @mrshodz
    @mrshodz Před 5 měsíci

    Love the animation and explanation.

  • @hidgik
    @hidgik Před 2 lety +1

    One of the best background scores ever!

  • @MrEliteXXL
    @MrEliteXXL Před 2 lety

    I prefer it with your voice, btw nice work! Keep going :)

  • @warmpianist
    @warmpianist Před 2 lety +5

    This is really interesting proof. I do have concern on "scaling A" as you can't scale a segment with a factor of another length of segment this with only compass and straightedge. A*B is only interpretable as area, not length. Is there any way to circumvent this issue?

    • @warmpianist
      @warmpianist Před 2 lety

      Ok so I looked at the animation again and we can actually scale by "F/A" for second triangle and "B/A" for third triangle instead, we get C+DB/A = EF/A. And some small algebra should lead to the same Ptolemy's theorem.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety +6

      Granted, but there's nothing that prevents scaling a triangle by a unitless quantity that happens to be equivalent to one of the side lengths.

    • @nighteyemonroe8057
      @nighteyemonroe8057 Před 2 lety +2

      if you admit that (1,1) and (0,0) can be constructed A*B can also be constructed.

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian Před 2 lety

      No, even the Greeks knew how to draw a line segment whose length was equal to the product of the length of any other two line segments. It's the *lengths* of the lines being multiplied, so there's no dimensional problem. Coming from a physics background, I had the same confusion as you for ages.

    • @warmpianist
      @warmpianist Před 2 lety +1

      @@QuantumHistorian if you are given a unit length, then yes. Is it possible without using unit length?

  • @sokratislamprakis6431
    @sokratislamprakis6431 Před 2 lety +2

    I found an amazing Chanel, if only there were more videos to see..

  • @theexplorer9927
    @theexplorer9927 Před 2 lety

    Your explanations are awesome!

  • @ogxj6
    @ogxj6 Před 2 lety +1

    I was the 667th upvote. I saved your video from darkness. You’re welcome.

  • @fengsiweifajarss2018
    @fengsiweifajarss2018 Před 2 lety

    This is the most beautiful prove for this theorem! thank you!

  • @walts555
    @walts555 Před 2 lety

    👍Good stuff! Everything in this channel is very worthwhile.

  • @munchwithmadhavi
    @munchwithmadhavi Před 8 měsíci

    Beautiful explanation of Ptolemy's Theorem, outstanding!

  • @lucaokino6776
    @lucaokino6776 Před 2 lety

    can’t believe he actually used the music. so good!

  • @mike_the_tutor1166
    @mike_the_tutor1166 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow! Amazing work!

  • @monishrules6580
    @monishrules6580 Před 4 měsíci

    Amazing,astonishing,unbelievable beautiful

  • @levelupmath
    @levelupmath Před rokem

    Can you please tell me what software you used for the presentation ? Thanks! Great idea btw

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching! All my videos use Desmos Graphing Calculator plus screen capture, then iMovie to edit the screen capture video. For my first three videos, I controlled the animations by hand - starting sliders, turning expressions on and off, etc. Once the videos got too complicated for that, I wrote a javascript add-on that allows me to program these changes so they run automatically. Here's the Desmos Graph for this video: www.desmos.com/calculator/famrmmf7xs And my animation program is on GitHub: github.com/MathyJaphy/DesmosPlayer (it's got some bugs and quirks, but the instructions are all there if you want to try it).

  • @maheshbhatt8115
    @maheshbhatt8115 Před 3 lety +3

    You are doing amazing great

  • @redactdead
    @redactdead Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic as always!

  • @LSMaths
    @LSMaths Před rokem

    Really great and helpful May I know which app is used for animation?

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem +1

      Thank you! I get that question a lot, so I put the answer in the description. I used Desmos Graphing Calculator to create the animations, and I wrote a plug-in for Chrome that lets me program the animations, which are otherwise controlled manually by moving sliders and displaying/undisplaying the various equations. See the description for links to the code on GitHub if you want to try it. The README file has a link to the Desmos graph I used for this video.

    • @LSMaths
      @LSMaths Před rokem

      Thanks a lot sir

  • @BetaTestingUrGf
    @BetaTestingUrGf Před 2 lety

    I would love more videos from you. also some longer and more in depth!

  • @Programmerdeveloper-vl1bu
    @Programmerdeveloper-vl1bu Před 8 měsíci

    It was hard to believe that it could be this easy...

  • @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095

    Any convex quadrilateral whose opposite angles add up to 180° is a cyclic quadrilateral, right??
    I mean, I have no doubt that for any cyclic quadrilateral, opposite angles add up to 180°. But is the reciprocal true?, i.e. is it true that any convex quadrilateral whose opposite angles add up to 180° is a cyclic quadrilateral?? (i.e. there is a circle passing through each of the four vertices). How can you prove it?

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety +1

      Excellent question. Yes, the reciprocal is true. By way of contradiction, assume you have a convex, non-cyclic quadrilateral ABCD where angle ABC and angle ADC are supplementary. Draw the circumcircle of triangle ABC, and note that D is not on that circle. If D is outside the circle, find the point on line AD that intersects the circle, and call it E. If D is inside the circle, extend AD until it intersects the circle, and call that point E. Since ABCE is a cyclic quadrilateral, angle AEC is supplementary to angle ABC and must therefore be equal to angle ADC. That's impossible.

    • @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095
      @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095 Před 2 lety

      @@MathyJaphy Wow, nice! Thank you!
      *You meant: " If D is outside the circle, find the point on line AD that intersects the circle, and call it E."

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for pointing out my typo. I’ve corrected it.

  • @mathbbn2676
    @mathbbn2676 Před 2 lety

    Look at the triangle show, it's really easy to understand if we follow his teachings really great.

  • @anuamba
    @anuamba Před rokem +1

    The animation is what helped me understand it most. How do you do it?

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      Hi, and thanks for the comment. I explain what I use to animate my videos in the description, along with links to the software if you want to try it yourself. Basically, it's Desmos Graphing Calculator turned into a programmable animation with a browser plug-in that I wrote which I call DesmosPlayer.

    • @anuamba
      @anuamba Před rokem

      @@MathyJaphyBut the player plugin is deleted from github. Can you share it?

    • @anuamba
      @anuamba Před rokem

      @@MathyJaphy Holy Fuuk you replied to 2 year old video.
      so can you share the link to the desmos player plugin cause it is removed from Github and thanks

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      I'm still making videos for the channel, so I notice comments on any of them, new or old! :-).
      I tested the link in the description before replying, and as far as I can tell, the repository is still there. I see my instructions and my javascript file. I'm not a GitHub expert so I don't know why you can't see it (assuming you entered the link correctly). If you have any idea, let me know and I'll investigate.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      @anuamba I may have found the reason that you couldn't get to my GitHub. It looks like a CZcams bug. When you click on the link in the description, it includes the close-parentheses in the URL! I fixed it by removing the period after the close-parentheses. Could you try it now and see if the link works for you?

  • @oscarsilva9644
    @oscarsilva9644 Před 3 lety +1

    This proof deserves handreds of thousands of likes.

  • @thiruvarasan2537
    @thiruvarasan2537 Před 2 lety

    very nice pictorial explanation

  • @ankitbt2208
    @ankitbt2208 Před 2 lety

    Loved the way of describing

  • @wesleysuen4140
    @wesleysuen4140 Před 2 lety +1

    v cool! (but could small letters be used instead?)

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety +5

      That was my problem when I first posted this video (LOL): czcams.com/video/8Yo-vrGQoqI/video.html.
      But seriously, I assume you mean that upper case letters usually represent vertices, not side lengths. I wasn’t thinking about that when I set up the animation. I guess I preferred the aesthetics of capitals. I’ll be more careful about following convention in the future.

  • @feelingzhakkaas
    @feelingzhakkaas Před 3 lety +1

    absolutely wonderful

  • @antoniopedrofalcaolopesmor6095

    I would have used small letters a, b, c, d, e, f for the measures of the line segments. Capital letters are conventionally used to denominate points.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety

      You're right. It didn't occur to me until after posting the video that I was not following the usual conventions. I leaned towards capitals for legibility on small screens, but I probably could have made it work with lower case.

  • @odemeprogres.2554
    @odemeprogres.2554 Před 2 lety

    No.1 proof bro , I love it so much 🤟

  • @ankaiahgummadidala1371

    Excellent video. Thanks a lot.

  • @pool7216
    @pool7216 Před rokem

    Hermosa demostración.

  • @NachoSchips
    @NachoSchips Před rokem

    Hey I'm looking for a nice Introductory geometry book with many exercises.
    I'm starting my major next year and I have been focusing mainly on calc, proofs and linear algebra but I'd like to refresh my knowledge in geometry

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      Thanks for asking, but I don't have anything to suggest, as I'm not a math professional. I'm sure you can find recommendations on reddit, r/geometry. Good luck with your major! See you in #SoME3, perhaps?

  • @Living_for_Him_Alone
    @Living_for_Him_Alone Před rokem

    Thank you ❤️

  • @leonellopez4026
    @leonellopez4026 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video made with only four minutes!

  • @gandurifamily550
    @gandurifamily550 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks sir

  • @belinha915
    @belinha915 Před 2 měsíci

    Very Nice!

  • @egvijayanand
    @egvijayanand Před 2 lety

    Such a circle is known as Circumcircle. It's a circle that passes through all vertices (corner points) of a polygon.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety

      I know. I chose to avoid using that technical term in my script. It sounds just a little bit funny. :-). Thanks anyway for the comment!

  • @User-54321n
    @User-54321n Před 2 lety

    Beautiful ❤️

  • @hihello3112
    @hihello3112 Před 2 lety

    Which software you use for animation

  • @user-goral
    @user-goral Před 4 měsíci

    Very cool.

  • @kenhaley4
    @kenhaley4 Před 2 lety

    Nice!!

  • @hanswust6972
    @hanswust6972 Před rokem

    Indeed beautiful.
    🤗

  • @SabrinaHoq
    @SabrinaHoq Před 6 měsíci

    Can you explain me how can you solve the factor of 'A','B' or 'F'..

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 6 měsíci

      I would be happy to, but I don't understand the question. What do you mean by "solve the factor of..."?

    • @SabrinaHoq
      @SabrinaHoq Před 6 měsíci

      @@MathyJaphy it would be helpful for my project if you could provide the measurement of the sides of the triangle..

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@SabrinaHoq Yes, you're referring to the part where I scale each triangle by different factors. But I don't know what you mean by "solve". Some commenters have questioned whether it's okay to multiply a length by a length because the units become squared. But I'm not multiplying by a length, just a value that happens to be the same as the length of one of the other sides. You can always scale the sides of a triangle by a constant value without changing its angles. Does that answer your question?

    • @SabrinaHoq
      @SabrinaHoq Před 6 měsíci

      @@MathyJaphy Can I use the same constant value every time,??

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 6 měsíci

      @@SabrinaHoq The lengths of the triangles' sides (A, B, C, D, E and F) are defined by the quadrilateral you start with. A, B, C and D are the lengths of the quadrilateral's sides. E and F are the lengths of the diagonals. For the quadrilateral that I used as a demo in the video, the lengths are approximately (A=1.49, B=1.11, C=3.34, D=1.66, E=1.98, F=1.94). Is this helpful?

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 Před 2 lety

    Excellent proof ! Vow !!

  • @saeedzargar4458
    @saeedzargar4458 Před 2 lety

    Just wow!

  • @wafy2710
    @wafy2710 Před rokem

    Insanely tought. Dictionary is licked to thank you😷

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem

      Thanks for the comment! I don't understand it, but I'll take it as a compliment. :-)

  • @rivkahlevi6117
    @rivkahlevi6117 Před 2 lety

    Very nice!

    • @rivkahlevi6117
      @rivkahlevi6117 Před 2 lety

      PS love the outro.

    • @shlomi8307
      @shlomi8307 Před rokem

      Ketiva v chatima tova sister. I also found a good channel of a friend called bethalgebra just new

  • @user-ot3ne5zb3f
    @user-ot3ne5zb3f Před 6 měsíci

    LETS SHOUT FOR PTOLEMY!

  • @Ni999
    @Ni999 Před 2 lety +1

    Subscribed!

  • @alancruz4930
    @alancruz4930 Před 2 lety

    Wow, que satisfactorio es entender algo

  • @aram8832
    @aram8832 Před 2 lety

    I thought you were saying it's a sick quadrilateral, I was like maybe corona.

  • @ptaszor9779
    @ptaszor9779 Před 2 lety

    The video is great but would be better with voice over in the second part

  • @karelin_e
    @karelin_e Před 2 lety

    Hey, where are new videos? It's good content, keep work

  • @varunsohanda2601
    @varunsohanda2601 Před 2 lety

    It was awesome!

  • @lamalamalex
    @lamalamalex Před 2 lety

    So…. I’m seeing a pattern of video content just leaving my sight into the edges of my screen.

  • @gandurifamily550
    @gandurifamily550 Před 2 lety +2

    Post more

  • @adb012
    @adb012 Před 2 lety

    I know the answer to the last question (3:54): VERY!

  • @mhgaming7107
    @mhgaming7107 Před 11 měsíci +1

    best 😉😉😉😉

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo Před 2 lety

    subbed

  • @SUCCESSWITHSUBODH
    @SUCCESSWITHSUBODH Před 3 lety +1

    I am from 🇮🇳India.

  • @shivansh668
    @shivansh668 Před 2 lety

    Using technology makes math more fun!!😎

  • @tbdtbdtbd_66
    @tbdtbdtbd_66 Před 27 dny

    Damnn crazy broo❤

  • @benedettopagano3536
    @benedettopagano3536 Před 3 lety +2

    Proud to be the 69th subscriber

  • @soshakobyan3123
    @soshakobyan3123 Před 4 měsíci

    I cannot believe that you are not a mathematician.

  • @Claudius_Ptolemy
    @Claudius_Ptolemy Před rokem

    Yup, your welcome :)

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před rokem +1

      Thanks, I'm a big fan! Got any other theorems for me to animate? :-)

  • @ruxleec
    @ruxleec Před 2 lety +1

    Boing! ???

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety

      Translation…? :-)

    • @ruxleec
      @ruxleec Před 2 lety

      @@MathyJaphy The "Boing!" at the end's missing? 🙃

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 2 lety

      Ah, got it. Yeah, that silliness was only for the joke video. I didn’t think I’d use the song again either, but I needed something for the end screen in this particular case.

  • @ernestschoenmakers8181
    @ernestschoenmakers8181 Před 11 měsíci

    One peculiar thing is if all the opposite sides are equal then you'll get the Pythagorean Theorem.

    • @MathyJaphy
      @MathyJaphy  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes, indeed! That's what the first 30 seconds of the video is about, only in reverse. I start with Pythagoras, then generalize to the case where opposite sides are _not_ equal. :-)