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Dragon Ball FighterZ - Janemba Tips & Tricks
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
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Janemba is here, and so is the tips guide! As always these guides cover a lot of topics, from the very basics to advanced concepts and all points inbetween!
0:24 - Special & Super moves
8:07 - Janemba's assist
9:35 - Teleports - Basics
12:09 - Teleports - Advanced
14:51 - Ki blast usage & tips
18:49 - Stealing the corner with Janemba
20:57 - Snapback mixups
24:06 - Level 3 super safejumps & oki
26:10 - General gameplan
30:35 - In closing
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Janemba tips are here! As always timestamps in the video description if you wanna skip around. Like all these style of videos, stuff is covered from the basics to advanced concepts, hope you find it useful!
Question.
If you do full screen ki blasts and they attempt to super dash at you, are you able to go into 2H?
@@Wizard_Lizard_ Depending on where you are at in the ki blasts yes, but it can be unreliable. Special canceling the ki blasts is instant.
Tips about Dimensional Hole:
All assist are considered to be ki blast by it.
Janemba is completly invisible if he lands it, Lv3s included.
Assist can still be called during it to prevent enemy movement and apply pressure.
Hopes this makes the move more appealing.
How is he completely invisible if I'm looking right at him?
@@MrJhound4 Invincible*
+Utility
+Solo pressure
+Good assist
+Good neutral
+Solo snapbacks
+Solo snapback mix-ups
+Teleport mix-ups
+Ki blast Gimmicks
*-Dat 2L though*
Bruh. Krillin tier.
His assist isn't good though. You can combo with any assist in the game except 18's. It's slow with no lockdown and no neutral presence.
His neutral is just okay. No key blasts, and no beam hurts his neutral. His sword only works if you're at the same level.
His 2h isn't good.
He's not Krillin tier but I still think he isn't good.
@@iAmCalypso33 Not from the top of the screen they can't. Gotenks assist was the only tracking assist until now which means Janemba assist gives you more flexibility with combos. And he doesn't need a beam when he's got big, fast, safe pokes that can convert into full combos. He's not top 5 but he's good.
@@N00BSYBORG I don't think comboing from the top of the screen is that big a deal. To be honest I don't think it matters at all except for some very character specific things.
But we'll see in a few months with tournament data.
I don't want him to be bad or not good. Hopefully he I'm wrong and the tournaments show his potential
I know you're joking so I'm not taking you seriously, but I find it funny that Krillin has a 2L.
@@iAmCalypso33 I'm on the same boat as you are. I think he's not good and actually quite boring in general but nonetheless I hope that I'm wrong. More diversity is always good
Janemba is so helpful for my Base Vegeta and Vegito in assists and vice versa. I *want* to main Janemba, but he’s a tricky guy for me. Thanks for saving me lab time, rooflemonger
Team dlc
In DBFZ trickiness metrical system he is problably trickiest (10/10). But in most of other fighting games trickiness metrical system he is 3/10.
Janemba seems on first impressions to be a really strong character but not for beginners at all, kind of like Piccolo. People who say he's bad will probably change their tunes when he starts making a big splash in tournaments
People who think he is strong will probably change their mind when he isn't in any real tournaments besides locals and he gets smashed there.
@@Vi0ar I see your a beginner :)
@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 you guys are so fucking annoying. Every fucking dlc I have to hear about how everyone is underrated. Literally every fucking one. Here is a list of everytime I was told someone was new and "undiscovered" Broly, Vegito, Base Goku and Vegeta, 17, Cooler, Jiern, Videl, and Janemba. Even if you can agure anyone of them is good now all expect the season 2 dlcs have been buffed repeatedly. You clearly don't know how this game works. You are either broken or not played at the top level. You also need a good assist to even be considered. Janemba isn't even close to being busted, and his assist is trash at best.
@@Vi0ar everyone was saying 17, broly, base goku, and vegeta had problems. Base vegeta was considered an infieor version of the other vegeta and so was base goku. Both 17 and broly were bad before the buffs and everyone said that. I never heard anything about zamusa. Both gt goku and bardock are amazing and both vegito and cooler got nerfs( all dp assists got a nerf although I can't rember if that is before or after coolers release) everyone was saying videl was underrated not that she was top tier and litteraly not a single soul though jiren was op. I mean janemba is litteraly the first dlc character I've seen that is genuinely underrated. Also you don't need a top tied assist to be valuable. I mean buu's assist is situational just like janemba's and gohan's assist is not good compared to other assists.
@@Vi0ar your right guy but jesus relax it's a game. Unless you actually play for money in tourneys?
Alright later upload than I usually do, but I promised it would be out today after suffering a delay yesterday and by gum I am a man of my word. We are almost at the end of post-evo crunch as Nightwolf(for MK11) will be launching less than 24 hours from now, and Nightwolf of course will be getting the combos/tips treatment as well!
You're the man! thanks for busting ass to get us content
His projectile counter works on assists that makes it very useful. You forgot to mention that.
Also, it treats EVERY assist as a projectile, meaning your Bardock, Gohan, A16 assists work too
@@egebamyasi2929 and even if A18 calls A17 with the support attack
For future viewers, the teleport dash was fixed as of the Gogeta release, you no longer have to use his tech to dash out of mid air teleport.
When you do hell gate in the air, if you hold UP when the ball comes out it will float above their head instead of going along the ground 😊
Mandarin Duck with any version of the move?
@@Samshreww yeah give it a go! Its probably useful against people who keep jumping around
was waiting on this. his ki blast is odd. but his assist is super underrated!
It can be used to create unique combos sure, but its overall versatility is limited. Its has a slow start up and has very little onscreen presence. If they decrease the start up just a little and add another ki blast or two it could be like a neat take on vegeta's assist.
No it isn't. Basically any assist excluding 18 can be used as a combo assist. Can it be used for weird combos? Sure but so can gotenks which can be used in block strings. It is literally only a combo assist, and one with an odd timing at that. Its bottom 5 assist in the game. Give me a beam anyday where I can combo, block string, and gives me get neutral.
@@Vi0ar tho i agree with your point i also agree that its underrated. That as an assist becuz of its delay in startup is great for baiting plays and setting up. Yes, u can superdash through it. Yes it starts slow but thats what makes it great. It adds another dimension to offense and defense. U just gotta change up how u see those factors in the game, to maximize it
David Humphrey bottom five? you’re an idiot lol its clearly better Android 17 and 18’s, Krillin, Beerus, BluKu, Hit’s and Videl’s
@@animaIpath I think youre the dumbass here. You gotta be an idiot if you think bluku, hits, and videls assists are worse than janembas
With the teleports, you didn't mention that you can do one on the ground and then go into another while in the air, and that while he is porting he has a few invul frames. Just thought you should know in case you didn't. Love your channel, love these vids.
While he might not be a crowd favorite with being so weird and all, that weirdness is gonna be utilized by at least one top player and they’re gonna master it and destroy people. Setups, mixups, he’s got both
Oh thank god for showing the jump install i completely forgot about that.
Trying to air dash after grounded teleport was driving me insane.
Now the last thing i need us good midscreen oki with him since J.2m has so much recovery.
Kevin Nguyen what i do in those scenarios is to use my pilar super move to bring them to the corner and then use a beam assist to cover their wakeup while I run at them and continue pressuring. You can also end with jH + the green ball but its less dmg.
Love your tips & tricks. Been wanting him in the game from when it was first announced.
There were a lot of "ahem" top flight players/streamers claiming he was trash on launch day. It's funny seeing less than a week later, many of them saying he's "aight" now lol.
I wasn’t excited for this character to be honest, I wanted kefla, BUT Janemba is probably my favorite character to play with. I think he’s exactly what I was looking for on my team. Thanks for the tips Roof!
I never heard of jump installing before, glad I decided to pick up Janemba and watch an incredible guide!
Janemba makes me think of Justice, from Guilty gear.
The sword and bomb specials are pretty analogous between the two.
Thank you for all this info of janemba, thanks for investing your time in this fighting games, their characters and every specific aspect of it. You help us a lot! You are the wikipedia of Dbfz :)
Thanks! In terms of dissecting characters I think you’re best. In my opinion most other “character breakdowns” are inferior to yours.
Thanks for the vote of confidence friend!
You forgot the most import thing about his Dimensional Hole. It also activates on assists. It’ll block any assist in the game and proc the counter.
Savage Skewer into Neo-Wolf Fang Fist equals instant Yamcha corner oki
Something mildly interesting: you can tiger knee his qcb and it will come out at weird angles sometimes. It's a little tricky as you want to delay the button press to not get a grounded qcb.
There's another method to getting your air action from a teleport in a grounded string. If you kara cancel 2S into teleport, you'll actually get the air version of teleport as it seems 2S puts janemba in the air almost immediately. This is rather difficult execution wise, but if mastered can completely forgo the need to jump install entirely. It will be slower, but only by a maximum of 3 frames.
You're doing kami's work bro, thanks for the guides.
This video is amazing, you outlined everything really well. And most importantly u showed everyone who said he’s trash just because he’s not the next bardock that there are many different and more technical ways to play the game than just mashing L.
Has anyone ever told you, you have a similar voice and explanation style to chef john from food wishes? Great job both of you!!!!
Just about daily 🤓
Don't forget that 22S also works on ALL assists (Other than Android 18 of course). Doesn't matter if it's physical like Videl or Bardock, a blast/beam like Goku SSJ or Vegeta SSGSS, or even a rock! It will get countered.
And the blast tracks the opponents point character, not the assist which is great.
This makes it so that Janemba can pretty much keep assist heavy players on lock down if they're not careful.
Countering an assist this way is great for turn stealing.
12:18 this line together with Janemba's smug face is the best thing
2020: “HELLOOOOOO” 👍🏾👍🏾
I am gonna be hello and welcoming well into my 50's unless I scam a job as an e-sports coach or something
This video is amazing! I'm very thankful!
Super neato grease. I can dig it.
It's because of you my power lever is over 9000! Thank you, Rooflemonger
18:50 "and smoke them!"
I wish his jump H had more use in combos. itsgot the coolest animation out of all the sword attacks
This character is pure dirty play just like he was in the movie! Love it! Thanks Roof!
Janemba's 2H may not have the best horizontal reach (though certainly not the worst), but that vertical reach is incredible and beats Broly's by a mile, and much like Broly's it's good at covering almost all uptech options in the corner. I'm having fun learning his combos too and what he can do for his assists and vice versa! ^^
Till this day I come back to your videos man. Rooflemonger walked so I can run seriously
Time to study this video until i can buy janemba later this week
Instead of the jump install you can also kara cancel his 2S into teleport to get the air dash property afterwards. Works great with assists. Janemba is so much fun
I enjoy his ki blasts very much for air combos i use them to extend a vaninsh combo and it gets good results but I'm still not ready to use janemba in ranked but your videos have made me a much better player overall and i sincerely thank you for making these videos keep on doing what you do!
Well done as always!
he's not laughing, he's chewing on the projectile ya goof
Thanks
Elder god Raiden When will Raiden get buffed tho. My boi
@@LightningCayo when the elder gods allow it
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into these. You the goat bruh 💪💯
As for the ki blast during block, you can always just 2H and do a full combo if they SD through it.
Thank you SIR
"Not top tier"
To a large portion of the playerbase that translates to "Is trash and not worth playing" and thats very sad.
Jump installing teleports for airdash reminds me of Chipp Zanuff.
Been awhile good to see some dbfz contents again.
i feel like if he actually had a 2L he’d be top tier
ICWATCH he would legit be broken
NYMPETIC 🤮 i’m loving him dude! i’m no pro but i’d definitely say he’s high tier! he’s no slouch
You can actually bait spark with the normal I frames from the teleports
Are you gonna do a tier list video before Gogeta is released or afterwards? (In regards to Janemba I mean)
Maybe? the tier list is fairly self evident at this point and nothing is gonna really change it other than janembas placing (mid high). Bardock, kid goku, kid buu, ssj goku > basically all other characters.
You make me happy with DBFZ videos
FYI, tha corner mix-up with tha little green ball isn't true (21:22). Set your dummy to counter with a light attack or level 3 super (if they have an air super)...you'll get hit every time. Tha ball won't explode fast enough to force a block when they come in no matter how fast you mash after you let it out. This trick will only work on players that assume you're gonna attack after tha switch and always block when incoming.
Seems like he is gonna have a skill ceiling higher than kami's look out, but he has some super impressive greasy tools to reward those who master him. This guy is gonna be someone who only gets more scary as time goes on, and complicated enough to hopefully avoid the Nerf bat
Man thank u so much for that vid!! Great content!
He's not my sort of character, but I do think that he has plenty of untapped potential with the right team. I evaluate him as more of a support style mid character like Trunks. IMO you can certainly put him on point, but I think there are just better leads even with his good neutral and (admittedly unorthodox) mix potential.
He is definitely one you have to build with a team in mind and NEEDS a Kid Buu/Yamcha style assist I do wish his Ki blast and his counter weren't so janky at times, but overall he's solid and only time will tell how effective he is.
Fuck a down light, we got a left right
Great video. Super helpful
I wanna main Janemba, but he seems like he's primarily a point character, but I don't wanna drop Vegito. Decisions, decisions.
Also I find it a funny coincidence that Janemba pairs well with Kid Buu
Still has high low if you work it first in the beginning then do left rights near the end for confusion
I don't know if this has been said because you get too many comments to sort through but hell gate beats super dash. Also holding up during hell gate casts a high hell which has lots of weird applications.
This vid helped a ton, appreciated
His assist isn't that bad you just have to find the right timing for it. SSJ Goku can combo into his assist with his light Flurry Kick move. His assist is better used to extend combos in kinda awkward but sort of effective ways. Idk I'm not a tech pro lmfao
Hey I was messing around with him and noticed if you’re in the air and land his 2H then hold his ki blasts and do nothing after all the ki blasts go off he starts floating down/backwards. Any reason for this?
Question. At 16:15, that combo, the second hit of the Auto Combo, the tail "breaks" the ground, and the ki blast ends up in them teching before they even hit the ground (a.k.a not breaking it again as shown in video). Is there any way for this not to happen?
Janemba has huge potential, but a lot of his moves are ass. They need to increase the startup on his shield attack so you instantly punish beams. His assist is super slow on start up as well, that needs a significant startup increase. I’d make it so you can’t Super dash the assist too. Unlike Vegeta’s original assist where you couldn’t SD through it and were pinned down constantly, Janemba’s is only 2 hits and the tracking isn’t always the best, so a buff like that I feel is reasonable. I’d tweak his green fireball to where you can trigger it by pressing another button. Kinda like how Gotenks can press different buttons to trigger his ghost. Janemba is a rock solid character, but the assist will probably keep him B+ tier at most or strictly a lead off character.
Damn audio goblins.
We need a tutorial for the sparking loop my man. Tricky as shit.
Been waiting for this since he was announced . He’s got the grease lmao .
Did I just miss it, or did you forget to talk about his command grab?
Mention the command grab at the start in the special move section. It isn't very good compared to like a broly or goku blue though sadly.
@@rooflemonger ah alright, I just spaced out then. Great vid by the by, I always look forward to these!
You said the skewer would be broken if you’re in their face after going corner to corner but this is already possible with Broly without wasting a bar and you are a lot closer too.
His counter is to control the neutral more than anything because if he get close to you, you can start your pressure
Thes new piccolo is amazing. Stretchy Arms.
You retain your air dash options even from a grounded teleport. The timing just becomes more strict. Someone on Twitter posted a video about it
I say as much in this video.
I'm saying it's possible without having to install
Is his autocombo a true grab? I was cheased today by a janemba player, because I could not block the third hit in his autocombo. I know, that there are some characters, like videl, or goku gt, that can grab you, if they miss the first two hits, but i blocked his full string and still got hit. I won eventually, becuase I started to reflect a lot, but this was really annoying, so I need to know, if that is the case, for the future.
I know you do all your vids on kid buu cause he got smallest hit boxes but do you think it should be Goku Gt now or are they both the same
Vertical tracking of j.2M is also limited. If you are so high that the opponent is off-screen, it will miss
Will we be getting a tips and tricks for vegeta blue as well?
I don't understand how u did the jump install, when I press jump and a button i get an air jump
Hey am I slow or something? Is it how my controller is laid out? Everytime I use the teleport it's a real pain in the ass to point it in the direction I want
When you gonna drop them tips for Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Battle 22/27!
Lmaoo
i dont even know what that is
Haha. I was just dropping a joke about a very old Dragon Ball Z fighter for PS1. You should look at some videos and get some laughs in. It's so bad that it's great. Haha.
the way you give the teleport the jump property, does that apply to any other special moves in the game?
yep literally every move in the game. Made a big video about the concept last year.
@@rooflemonger is it only during the first hit or can u do the install on any part of the string? you can do down up to make it a super jump install too right?
awww thought you'd talk a bit more bout his normals
He might be the best dlc character when they find out all his tricks
Bardock and Gt Goku are tough to beat
You also didnt put in how his counter Works on all assist
So his qcf move is basically a weak Turnabout Phoenix Wright poke? OBJECTION!
Hey Krillin got that 2l tho
gohan legs into janemba assist 🌚
Is it just me or upcoming Guilty Gear trailers looks league(s) above DBFZ?
thank you for these tips. and I hate bardock and kid goku
I'm not here to learn Janemba, I'm here to see how screwed I am if I encounter a Janemba main
Shoutouts to Ken_Deep
What would we do without you?
Woulld've been more helpful to tell us his auto combos/combo possibilities... Mostly us F2P players dont know what moves he has.
When you are sure after watching this video
If he had a 2L he would probably be broken
I started playing this game a week ago anyone wanna play, train with me
What system you on
First!! Yeah!!
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Not that these vids aren’t informative, but wouldn’t it be beneficial to wait a bit longer before making these tips and tricks videos to give more time for the community to understand him and discover more of his techniques/setups? Just a though
Like id say that the best tips and tricks videos you’ve done have been ones like the Goku Black one and Adult Gohan since you waited a long time to make them and therefore had a lot of info on them
No matter how long I wait I can't cover every possible thing, and simply put, I don't know everything. For the purposes of youtube and my channel to be blunt for new characters these style of videos need to be out within the first week of the character launching, or people just stop caring. I make educational content for the most part and educational content fails against all the clickbait out there so I gotta be timely. Guides I make well after a character is out like goku black/adult gohan I see mentioned in your other comment I am very proud of, but ultimately they tend not to do as well in their release window. Its a delicate balance of knowing as much as I can to fill in valuable content, and being timely enough that I can get anything out of making the video itself as these style of videos absolutely require the most time and energy on my part out of anything I do.
rooflemonger ahhh ok. I get you. Keep it up my dude
Ben Byers Or, we could CHOOSE to watch the video AFTER playing around with Janemba. Just a thought.
Ike Onyemekwu i mean.... yeah.... not sure what that has to do with anything i said tho.