Dogs are essentially people's 4 legged slaves: They eat only what's given them They sleep where they are told They are castrated and neutered They mate or don't mate according to the owners whim Their masters make them come or go or sit or jump or cuddle when told. Their friends are determined by their owner. The owners are called their masters Dogs are the new slave!
So that's why we gotta go to Disney world instead of sea world. Cause you can say a lot of shit about Disney, but do you know what they don't do..... KEEP CAPTIVE ORCAS FOR LIFE.
Theres never been a recorded artack because anyone who eho has rver been artacked by these things in wjls has rvee probably live to tell about. I like rogan but i would think he would understand how these things kill everything thats swims. Yet has some majestic and majical connection to humans? Is retardation. Pods if orcas are attacking sailboats off the coast of Spain . And it probably won't be tol long before one of these sailers need to spear one of these things in self defense
@@bobbiechinn9578maybe. Probably not tho. They r the smartest animal in the ocean and one of the smartest animals in general. They haven’t gone thousands of years not attacking boats then just all of a sudden start attacking them in an almost planned attack
All animals communicate. Calling it a language is far fetched if it does not match sound sets. I can interpret my dog reasonably well. She does not sound like a typical dog. Yet other dogs eventually figure out what she wants. If the mice were really smart then stick to unpopulated areas.
To me, this is simply common sense - when you look at the horrible and traumatic things that humans have done to Orcas, simply in capturing them, it’s amazing they haven’t killed every ‘Trainer.’
They did. Tilicum in Sea world alone killed at least two, maybe three people. One Trainer was killed at Loro Parque, Teneriffa from another Orca. You're right, Tilicum was so traumatized through His capture and captivity, that He lost it. Edit: I didnt See the "every", sorry, my mistake
@@fjeldfross9327 • No Problem! Thank you for both your comment and your awareness of this issue. I’m not sure that many people realise that Male Orcas live in their Mother’s Pod/Clan, for their entire life, even after breeding. Moreover, their ‘Societies’ are Matriarchal and it is the older females who teach, strategize, and direct the pod’s ‘Hunting Missions.’ Not only was Tilikum captured as a young male and stolen from his mother, but he was also taken out of the society (Including their grandmother, siblings, etc) that Male Orcas REQUIRE, for their mental and physical health. In addition, some Orcas travel over 1000km in a year and are continually emotionally, mentally, and physically stimulated by their ‘Family Members,’ their ‘Lessons,’ their Hunting Strategies, their Communication, etc. The TRAUMA of capture as a young male, while expecting him to live in a tiny pool, eat a terrible and artificial diet, remain isolated, and Chronically Ill. All Orcas in captivity are injected with huge amounts of gelatinous materials because they are chronically dehydrated and sick, their dorsal fins fall over as their bodies are too sick to hold them up, etc. This life is so incredibly cruel and torturous, it is beyond words!
When you look at the horrible and traumatic things that humans have done to dogs, simply in capturing them and breeding them to be docile and weak, a mere shadow of the free wolfs, its amazing they havent killed every humans
@@iaamara8434 • It depends what you mean by, “Bond.” Yes, the Orcas have learned who gives them food and who spends time with them, however, they often connect the trauma of their capture and captivity with humans. Since their trainers are the humans with whom the Orcas interact, they are the humans upon which the Orcas take out their feelings of being trapped, their rage, frustration, etc. These ‘Trainers’ are neither qualified nor have any Formal/University Education such as Degrees in Zoology, Animal Behaviour, Animal Psychology, Marine Biology, Oceanography, Veterinary Medicine, Etc. Instead, the majority of these ‘Trainers’ have backgrounds and interests in scuba diving, free-diving, acrobatics (E.g. Have worked in shows on Cruise Ships, Circuses, Etc), & enjoy spending time with animals. In the 80s, places like Sea World in Florida had their Trainers swimming with, diving off, riding, etc, in the water with the Orcas. After several deaths, Sea World had to stop this, making sure that the Trainers stayed out of the water, beside the pools.
It's an easy thing to stop the catching of Orcas and putting them in aquariums. Simply don't go to SeaWorld and tell as many people as you can. Also offer an alternative such as going on tours where boats take you out to their natural habitats. Then these businesses will thrive and be able to offer a better service. It'll take time but we'll get there.
@bigman7025 So let's make it good brother!... Tell your friends or others whenever it comes up, not to go to SeaWorld... It wouldn't hurt SeaWorld to invest in charter vessels and slowly move away from these lovely majestic creatures being held in pools. Take it easy man...😉👍
the people who do such were never customers in the first place, and the one thing businesses should know better than anything is to never cater to those who will never be your customers
Orcas are social, intelligent animals that swim thousands of miles as families. Keeping them in a pool is cruel beyond belief. Provinces in Canada have already banned this practice. People should boycott sign prisons.
@sway2006200887 Plastic, in general, is very far from harmless, including straws getting wedged into sea turtles leading to death in cases. Of all the things humans do plastic is by far the most long term dangerous thing we toss into the environment like ignorant entitled toddlers completely clueless of our actions. As far as zoos go they have their value especially to endangered species and sick/ injured animals. This excludes certain animals like Orca though they respond like a human responds to imprisonment up to and including deranged voilant behavior. It's actually pretty eerie the amount of similarities between humans and oracas with behavioral tendencies. Same goes with dolphins however they respond much better to certain situations like captivity although it is still way less then ideal. However, the other lesser animals in most modern zoos live a pretty solid long life and even form pretty wholesome bonds with the humans that take care of them. I still find them boring AF though so don't really go lol. The only exception being massive aquariums like the one in Georgia since they hit my ocean interest pretty solid and swimming with the sharks was fun.
Zoos, if run properly, aren't bad for most animals. Since some might be endangered so they are keeping them going, and others either were close to dying in the wild and brought in and saved, or those born in captivity couldn't survive in the wild anymore anyway.
I raised a Raven last summer. Chose to stay around and is never caged, clipped or tethered. Free to come and go . She does just that. Has a boyfriend already! Research is telling me she will take a mate in another year or so. I can only hope she will bring the fledglings. I downloaded some interactions if interested! Blessing of my lifetime! Edit: caging animals is cruel. Should be outlawed!
@@flim148 how would you know what someone else meant you twat? and its way too easy to hide under the sarcasm umbrella when someone gets called out on their torrential bullshit. the world would be a much better place if people could just take responsibility for the stupid shit they say and do. why you would rush to defend someone's comment without knowing them or their true intentions is truly baffling. borderline superiority complex.
When I was a kid, about 10, I went to Sea World, and was taken to see Shamu. It got to the bit where the trainer is asking Shamu questions and it was shaking and nodding its head at the answers. Everyone else was laughing, but even at 10 years old it was obvious to me that the whale had no idea what the questions meant. All I was thinking was "What on earth did they have to do to that creature to get it to do that? I don't know what they did but I can't imagine it was pleasant..." 😢
Its like taking a circus performer from the circus and put them in a small room and have them put obects through the shape hole and reward them with a cracker
Not really! The size of the pool is bad because orcas travel hundreds of miles regularly in the wild and obviously can’t in pool. So it is more like torturing something till it reaches its breaking point.
After initially seeing Orcas at the Vancouver Aquarium, I was horrified at how SMALL the pools are (in comparison to their natural habitat) and I never again initiated nor decades later allowed my kids to view them in this environment, explaining that they are not "entertainment" and to financially support their confinement is unjust. I was unable to talk my friends/acquaintances from viewing the shows at the Aquarium when they were staying at our home and I did accompany them, but I watched the shows from the underwater viewing rooms as one sees the reality of how small (relative to their size and intelligence) and more often than not, my guests kids would join me rather than sit in the stands. I gently explained what I perceived and why I had strived to convince their mom to NOT insist seeing the "shows"....simply that I think it's inhumane and cruelty. I ask the kids how they would feel if they were confined to a box far smaller than the world in which they interact.. One need say NOTHING to an empathic child, as that child will react strongly to wild animals in captivity and ~ despite their tiny size and few years on the planet ~ decide for themselves to NEVER AGAIN support such abuse. I went to a circus ONCE as a preschooler...and never went again (although Circe De Solile is DIFFERENT, as those are humans CHOSING to perform: I find that beautiful). I went to Stanley Park as a child...then only when pressured thereafter...I saw a chimpanzee in an ugly suit roller skating as parents LAUGHED uproariously...noting that many kids were visibly upset. One person alone opting out of a behaviour might not have a significant impact...but if you make others AWARE of the scientific FACTS...they might very well raise the awareness of their peers...and these magnificent intelligent creatures can be seen in their environment. I was in a small fishing boat off Quadra Island near Campbell River on Vancouver Island fishing at a "Tyee Pool" (a deep recess in the ocean floor wherein salmon hide from Orcas) and a pod of killer whales gracefully swam through the area. A huge male, his dorsal fin towering above me GENTLY went under our boat, so close that I could ALMOST touch him with my outstretched hand, leaning out over the water with my feet wedged under the seat to extend my reach. I was scoulded for "endangering" myself but there was not an iota of malice emanating from them. Had they wanted to, they could have attacked or frightened those others who were terrified...but they were not interested in harming we humans. This was an awe-inspiring and Hella positive experience which filled me with gratitude and love for their power and beauty. Quite the opposite of what I felt seeing them in those horrible TINY claustrophobic jail cells.
They’re not as smart as humans but they’re certainly intelligent when compared to most other animals. A giant apex predator of the sea should not be in a small pond.
@@grymnsnot required. That's like saying a species full of stephen Hawking's are not intelligent. Sometimes you are restricted by your body not your mind
It's a puddle! swimming pools are larger, its disgustingly sick......same with any of our world animals Aquatic or otherwise.....I recommend anyone to watch the documentary The Cove.....its shocking how they capture our marine Mammals from the ocean ,this film will change the way you will look at dolphin shows & how barbaric this is. Thanks, Joe .we should keep talking about this subject until its Eradicated. Big fan of your podcast 🙌
No rogan, they are not even close in being as smart They can communicate, so can we They can use and improves on surroundings, so can we We can make: Anti matter, dams, guns, electronics, use gamma and x ray, make accurate calculations as far as know in the universe
Well most of the Things u said are accomplished by a few High intelligent humans ... nothing the whole Population is capable of ... ofc they are most likely not as smart as the average human ... but to say its extremely far is just nothing we can say for Sure and is pretty unlikely
As sad as this is (and it is) .. the video of the chimps seeing the outside world for their first time ever, after being held in captivity for their entire life (decades), is even sadder. The look on that one chimps face just breaks my heart. How humans can be so cruel is beyond comprehension : (
No fire means no metallurgy and thus no advanced tech no matter how smart they are. It's probably a issue for any advanced alien life on water worlds. There could be alien squid on Europa as smart as humans but they are forever stuck under that ice.
I'm glad all this is coming to light and that a lot of places no longer keep captive orcas. That being said im also glad i got to see an orca show at SeaWorld when i was a kid before they stopped showing it
Keeping creatures in captivity makes me livid! All for our entertainment. Of course as a child I thought it was awesome but now that I know better it’s absolutely soul crushing 😞💔
Out of the five recorded fatalities from orca attacks, three were caused by the same individual: Tiklum, a male whale that up until recently was the poster child for SeaWorld.
One of the perks of being top of the food chain. We get to figure out what we should or shouldn’t be doing with other creatures as we try things out and come to understand them better.
I totally agree with you Joe. They live up here on the Puget Sound and they are majestic. They are struggling to survive in the wild and it breaks my heart
Hey, I'm a Native American and we have one legend of an Orca killing a man in our Tribe. Story says that tribal members were out fishing in a canoe and the Orcas came up to play. One tribal member supposedly mounted one of the Orcas and rode it as it jumped into the air and into depths of the sea, he never resurfaced! Ever since then the Orca has been the animal that represents the Klallam People, its on our Official Flag and Seal. We called them Kloomachin
We might wanna figure out what Orca's are communicating about because China's Scientist's is also listening for pattern in the Orca's language too begin to understand them and communication.
The only time I feel like it's okay to have an orca in captivity is if it's being rehabilitated, or if it has something wrong with it to the point where it would not survive in the wild. The fact that an orca has never killed a human in the wild but they have several times in captivity should say all that you need to know about whether these animals should be in captivity or not.
Watch The Blackfish Documentary. They stated in the movie that Orcas not only have different dialects but different pods can have different languages. That blew my mind. Fuck Sea World.
The fact that Sea World is even still in business is insane to me. A whale living in a pool for life is akin to a human spending their life in a phone booth. It's an absolute tragedy.
I went to SeaWorld at 10yrs old and remember asking my dad if they had to live in that tank forever..he reassured me that had a bigger home that I can't see..sadly he was wrong 😕 This and circuses, I'll NEVER be okay with how the animals are treated 🥺
ive seen so many stories of orcas attacking and killing their trainers, when the trainers are really the only people working at those damn aquariums that actually treat them with respect and kindness, because they just go crazy locked inside those enclosures. a lot of orcas also attack other orcas in captivity, i remember reading about how the zoos would put them together in these tiny cages to sleep at night and when they would find them in the morning theyre covered in scratches from attacking each other at night.
Having captive orcas is just fucking tragic. They’re way too smart to have them imprisoned like we do. It’s so fucking sad.
Let’s do something about it then man. Spread the word. Much love from Texas
As a kid I loved zoos etc but soon felt that imprisoning animals in small spaces is wrong.
Not that smart of they're getting caught lol. It's not that sad, princess
@@carlosmarcos4070yes worrying to much ruins people's childhood fine if your an adult but even still its a sad life worrying so much.
Dogs are essentially people's 4 legged slaves:
They eat only what's given them
They sleep where they are told
They are castrated and neutered
They mate or don't mate according to the owners whim
Their masters make them come or go or sit or jump or cuddle when told.
Their friends are determined by their owner.
The owners are called their masters
Dogs are the new slave!
Sadly, it won’t stop until people stop paying money to see them in captivity.
So that's why we gotta go to Disney world instead of sea world. Cause you can say a lot of shit about Disney, but do you know what they don't do..... KEEP CAPTIVE ORCAS FOR LIFE.
@@gershonnash9607YOU WON'T SEE ME SPENDING MONEY IN EITHER OF THOSE PLACES
@@MasonRudolphGoat not the Disney company.
They trying to stop in the US but they can't be returned to wild. We don't breed them anymore or capture them.
@@gershonnash9607Disney is literally crawling with pedophiles
It’s like a person having a mental break down and becoming psychotic. ITS PRISON FOR THEM
Theres never been a recorded artack because anyone who eho has rver been artacked by these things in wjls has rvee probably live to tell about.
I like rogan but i would think he would understand how these things kill everything thats swims.
Yet has some majestic and majical connection to humans? Is retardation. Pods if orcas are attacking sailboats off the coast of Spain .
And it probably won't be tol long before one of these sailers need to spear one of these things in self defense
LOL 😂 nope both you and Joe are delusional to think they’re as smart as people
Facts!! Well we know their smarter then you☝️
AND they get tortured. Why? For our entertainment? Psychotic.
@@brendaclark5185 not really just real entertaining
That’s why they’re attacking boats. They let Willy back in the ocean and he told all the friends he met.
They're not attacking boats the experts researched and observed them. They're trying to play with the boats.
@@bobbiechinn9578maybe. Probably not tho. They r the smartest animal in the ocean and one of the smartest animals in general. They haven’t gone thousands of years not attacking boats then just all of a sudden start attacking them in an almost planned attack
@@bobbiechinn9578u have no idea how violent orcas are, huh?
@@ballsballsballs3617exactly why would they do that now
@@KD-wc4rsnot OP but I’m guessing Willy is traumatized after being captured by a boat and his friends don’t wanna get captured like he was
I 100% agree with you. What we are doing to these animals are completely wrong.
How about pets?
They’re such beautiful creatures
Beautifully dangerous creatures. Orca's are fucking dangerous as fuck and even more of a dick than a dolphin is.
Stop supporting their imprisonment to see them tanks.
They are majestic but wait until you realize how they act in the wild
@@7Metal7Monkey7who said he or she is supporting??
@@thejunglecommandoThey act like the Apex predators that they are!
After the movie Blackfish most aqua parks gave up on orcas
They should have.
are you sure about that?😊
You wrong homie
Only SeaWorld let them go
@@kj7682 BS they didnt let go anyone....they put them aside ALONe in a pool to die slowly, if you mean that by "let go"....well ur right....
Mexico has an orca in an isolated tank for years its alive but it's lying on the bottom of the tank its heart breaking
That’s fucking sad holy shit
Mexico doesn't have a concept of animal rights.
At one point they had the one that was used in free Willie in Mexico at one point
I wish some rich person would save the orca 💔😢
It's dead now what morons
"Jamie Pull up that video of the Bear swimming with the Orca's"
😂😂😂😂, facts!
This comment is under every joe video
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I came for this comment
@@christopherharvey1116ya it was funny like 10 years ago
Recently we’ve learned rats also have language. Really makes you wonder about all the lab testing we’ve done on creatures.
No animal testing. I eat meat I use plastic straws but there should be no way animal testing.
All animals communicate. Calling it a language is far fetched if it does not match sound sets. I can interpret my dog reasonably well. She does not sound like a typical dog. Yet other dogs eventually figure out what she wants. If the mice were really smart then stick to unpopulated areas.
@1014p except that they stick to populated areas because we produce tons of waste everyday... most of which is edible to them...
@@1014psure, all animals communicate. But Dolphins and Whales have actually developed language specific to regions and pods.
To me, this is simply common sense - when you look at the horrible and traumatic things that humans have done to Orcas, simply in capturing them, it’s amazing they haven’t killed every ‘Trainer.’
They did.
Tilicum in Sea world alone killed at least two, maybe three people. One Trainer was killed at Loro Parque, Teneriffa from another Orca. You're right, Tilicum was so traumatized through His capture and captivity, that He lost it.
Edit: I didnt See the "every", sorry, my mistake
@@fjeldfross9327 • No Problem! Thank you for both your comment and your awareness of this issue. I’m not sure that many people realise that Male Orcas live in their Mother’s Pod/Clan, for their entire life, even after breeding. Moreover, their ‘Societies’ are Matriarchal and it is the older females who teach, strategize, and direct the pod’s ‘Hunting Missions.’ Not only was Tilikum captured as a young male and stolen from his mother, but he was also taken out of the society (Including their grandmother, siblings, etc) that Male Orcas REQUIRE, for their mental and physical health. In addition, some Orcas travel over 1000km in a year and are continually emotionally, mentally, and physically stimulated by their ‘Family Members,’ their ‘Lessons,’ their Hunting Strategies, their Communication, etc. The TRAUMA of capture as a young male, while expecting him to live in a tiny pool, eat a terrible and artificial diet, remain isolated, and Chronically Ill. All Orcas in captivity are injected with huge amounts of gelatinous materials because they are chronically dehydrated and sick, their dorsal fins fall over as their bodies are too sick to hold them up, etc. This life is so incredibly cruel and torturous, it is beyond words!
Most of the time, bonds are developped between trainers and orcas
When you look at the horrible and traumatic things that humans have done to dogs, simply in capturing them and breeding them to be docile and weak, a mere shadow of the free wolfs, its amazing they havent killed every humans
@@iaamara8434 • It depends what you mean by, “Bond.” Yes, the Orcas have learned who gives them food and who spends time with them, however, they often connect the trauma of their capture and captivity with humans. Since their trainers are the humans with whom the Orcas interact, they are the humans upon which the Orcas take out their feelings of being trapped, their rage, frustration, etc. These ‘Trainers’ are neither qualified nor have any Formal/University Education such as Degrees in Zoology, Animal Behaviour, Animal Psychology, Marine Biology, Oceanography, Veterinary Medicine, Etc. Instead, the majority of these ‘Trainers’ have backgrounds and interests in scuba diving, free-diving, acrobatics (E.g. Have worked in shows on Cruise Ships, Circuses, Etc), & enjoy spending time with animals. In the 80s, places like Sea World in Florida had their Trainers swimming with, diving off, riding, etc, in the water with the Orcas. After several deaths, Sea World had to stop this, making sure that the Trainers stayed out of the water, beside the pools.
It's an easy thing to stop the catching of Orcas and putting them in aquariums. Simply don't go to SeaWorld and tell as many people as you can. Also offer an alternative such as going on tours where boats take you out to their natural habitats. Then these businesses will thrive and be able to offer a better service. It'll take time but we'll get there.
The people who would do that do but theres more bad than good in this world
@bigman7025 So let's make it good brother!... Tell your friends or others whenever it comes up, not to go to SeaWorld... It wouldn't hurt SeaWorld to invest in charter vessels and slowly move away from these lovely majestic creatures being held in pools. Take it easy man...😉👍
the people who do such were never customers in the first place, and the one thing businesses should know better than anything is to never cater to those who will never be your customers
@@flim148 Mmmmm🤔 Good point. But there has to be a way to lure people away from visiting their "fun parks" and using other means to see Orcas.
Orcas are social, intelligent animals that swim thousands of miles as families. Keeping them in a pool is cruel beyond belief. Provinces in Canada have already banned this practice. People should boycott sign prisons.
Due to Orcas being smart, they now know when they will be captured due to seeing others get taken by boat and they are learning how to flip the boats.
“Get in the pool if you want a fish” lmao i
The face he made... I can't😂😂😂
My sister in law called me a killer for using plastic straws, but she thinks going to the animal slave pen (zoo) is such a fun and sweet family event.
Both scenarios are fine honestly. Plastic straws are harmless and zoos are genuinely fun! Sounds like just some in law rivalry and bickering
@@user-sz2px8pv3ffun for the people, not so fun for the animals
Restuarant gave me a paper straw with a plastic cup!🤔
@sway2006200887 Plastic, in general, is very far from harmless, including straws getting wedged into sea turtles leading to death in cases. Of all the things humans do plastic is by far the most long term dangerous thing we toss into the environment like ignorant entitled toddlers completely clueless of our actions.
As far as zoos go they have their value especially to endangered species and sick/ injured animals. This excludes certain animals like Orca though they respond like a human responds to imprisonment up to and including deranged voilant behavior. It's actually pretty eerie the amount of similarities between humans and oracas with behavioral tendencies. Same goes with dolphins however they respond much better to certain situations like captivity although it is still way less then ideal.
However, the other lesser animals in most modern zoos live a pretty solid long life and even form pretty wholesome bonds with the humans that take care of them. I still find them boring AF though so don't really go lol. The only exception being massive aquariums like the one in Georgia since they hit my ocean interest pretty solid and swimming with the sharks was fun.
Zoos, if run properly, aren't bad for most animals. Since some might be endangered so they are keeping them going, and others either were close to dying in the wild and brought in and saved, or those born in captivity couldn't survive in the wild anymore anyway.
And now there is a wild pod that attacks boats
Will stop once they realise it's pointless.
you mean playing with them
I raised a Raven last summer. Chose to stay around and is never caged, clipped or tethered. Free to come and go . She does just that. Has a boyfriend already! Research is telling me she will take a mate in another year or so. I can only hope she will bring the fledglings. I downloaded some interactions if interested!
Blessing of my lifetime!
Edit: caging animals is cruel. Should be outlawed!
Please. I’m very interested.
You’re living my dream 😢 love the ravens ❤
So, just to clarify, can you just stretch your arm out and bro will land there?
@@UNFRIENDLYSTRANGER well honestly she is pulling away some with maturity! She isn't getting on my arm anymore. I can pet her still.
That's good she is surviving on her own. Most birds raised or saved by humans fail to survive back in the wild.
Seen a bunch of beluga whales in an aquarium and it was like they were stuck swimming in a bathtub.
Love you Joe for shining a light on subjects like this ❤
This is why joe is the best podcaster. Original takes, speaks for the people, and has compassion for others
Saying captivity is cruel is an original take?
@@aelechkoit’s called sarcasm
@@flim148 how would you know what someone else meant you twat? and its way too easy to hide under the sarcasm umbrella when someone gets called out on their torrential bullshit. the world would be a much better place if people could just take responsibility for the stupid shit they say and do.
why you would rush to defend someone's comment without knowing them or their true intentions is truly baffling. borderline superiority complex.
Yes I agree 💯. Orcas belong in the wild. As do all wild animals. We should admire them from afar
“Jamie pull up that video of a bear riding an orca”
Yeah, not funny
@@codyadle9499saying it’s not funny doesn’t make it so
It just hurts my heart so much! I've been invited to marine land in the past from family members i was physically ill to the thought of it.😢😢😢
I love it there. You missed a great day out
you know what something else missed, A GREAT AMAZING LIFE IN THE BEAUTIFUL SEA FOR ORCAS!
@@BoBoles the sea? Where we dump our sewage? Gross. Rather a nice clean pool
@@criticalcommenterpeople said the same thing back in the day on plantations.
@@utooslow haha wtf are you talking about? Weirdo
I’m with Joe!!! A zoo is just an animal prison ☹️
So, is a house for a pet.
For some animals yes for others its a safe haven
@@bigman7025then just call it a sanctuary and stop letting people view them for pleasure
@@Deenaziamazinjg14Then what else are they meant to visit them for? Guilt?
@@ericcarter7596 you shouldn’t visit at all is the entire point lmao
When I was a kid, about 10, I went to Sea World, and was taken to see Shamu. It got to the bit where the trainer is asking Shamu questions and it was shaking and nodding its head at the answers. Everyone else was laughing, but even at 10 years old it was obvious to me that the whale had no idea what the questions meant. All I was thinking was "What on earth did they have to do to that creature to get it to do that? I don't know what they did but I can't imagine it was pleasant..." 😢
They've discovered that dolphins actually have names for each other
The orcas sound like when u turn night vision on in cod
Truly sick stuff.
Smart as humans? lets see them make a Kanye remix first joe
Starts spitting Erika
Its like taking a circus performer from the circus and put them in a small room and have them put obects through the shape hole and reward them with a cracker
Not really! The size of the pool is bad because orcas travel hundreds of miles regularly in the wild and obviously can’t in pool. So it is more like torturing something till it reaches its breaking point.
After initially seeing Orcas at the Vancouver Aquarium, I was horrified at how SMALL the pools are (in comparison to their natural habitat) and I never again initiated nor decades later allowed my kids to view them in this environment, explaining that they are not "entertainment" and to financially support their confinement is unjust.
I was unable to talk my friends/acquaintances from viewing the shows at the Aquarium when they were staying at our home and I did accompany them, but I watched the shows from the underwater viewing rooms as one sees the reality of how small (relative to their size and intelligence) and more often than not, my guests kids would join me rather than sit in the stands. I gently explained what I perceived and why I had strived to convince their mom to NOT insist seeing the "shows"....simply that I think it's inhumane and cruelty. I ask the kids how they would feel if they were confined to a box far smaller than the world in which they interact..
One need say NOTHING to an empathic child, as that child will react strongly to wild animals in captivity and ~ despite their tiny size and few years on the planet ~ decide for themselves to NEVER AGAIN support such abuse.
I went to a circus ONCE as a preschooler...and never went again (although Circe De Solile is DIFFERENT, as those are humans CHOSING to perform: I find that beautiful). I went to Stanley Park as a child...then only when pressured thereafter...I saw a chimpanzee in an ugly suit roller skating as parents LAUGHED uproariously...noting that many kids were visibly upset.
One person alone opting out of a behaviour might not have a significant impact...but if you make others AWARE of the scientific FACTS...they might very well raise the awareness of their peers...and these magnificent intelligent creatures can be seen in their environment.
I was in a small fishing boat off Quadra Island near Campbell River on Vancouver Island fishing at a "Tyee Pool" (a deep recess in the ocean floor wherein salmon hide from Orcas) and a pod of killer whales gracefully swam through the area. A huge male, his dorsal fin towering above me GENTLY went under our boat, so close that I could ALMOST touch him with my outstretched hand, leaning out over the water with my feet wedged under the seat to extend my reach.
I was scoulded for "endangering" myself but there was not an iota of malice emanating from them. Had they wanted to, they could have attacked or frightened those others who were terrified...but they were not interested in harming we humans.
This was an awe-inspiring and Hella positive experience which filled me with gratitude and love for their power and beauty.
Quite the opposite of what I felt seeing them in those horrible TINY claustrophobic jail cells.
They’re not as smart as humans but they’re certainly intelligent when compared to most other animals. A giant apex predator of the sea should not be in a small pond.
How do you know they're not as smart? Smh
@@pnut3844ablewell first of all, you don't see any orcas with a CZcams account do ya
@@grymnsthe ultimate sign of intelligence
@@grymnsnot required. That's like saying a species full of stephen Hawking's are not intelligent. Sometimes you are restricted by your body not your mind
@@grymns we dont know their language. So we're dumb apes
It's a puddle! swimming pools are larger, its disgustingly sick......same with any of our world animals Aquatic or otherwise.....I recommend anyone to watch the documentary The Cove.....its shocking how they capture our marine Mammals from the ocean ,this film will change the way you will look at dolphin shows & how barbaric this is. Thanks, Joe .we should keep talking about this subject until its Eradicated. Big fan of your podcast 🙌
The cove was epic! What a show. Watched it at a friend's on sushi night. Was cool seeing him work and learning where our food came from
Orcas they… speak for the trees
This is archaic. We have to put a stop to the madness of enslaving these beautiful mammals.
No rogan, they are not even close in being as smart
They can communicate, so can we
They can use and improves on surroundings, so can we
We can make:
Anti matter, dams, guns, electronics, use gamma and x ray, make accurate calculations as far as know in the universe
They can feel pain but you can’t feel anything
Well most of the Things u said are accomplished by a few High intelligent humans ... nothing the whole Population is capable of ... ofc they are most likely not as smart as the average human ... but to say its extremely far is just nothing we can say for Sure and is pretty unlikely
Try making that with no arms.
I love Joe man he speaks for all of us ✊️
that's why I loved Free Willy so much special when the kid help saves him/them
Rogan is the man for speaking on topics and bringing cast on that nobody would touch with a stick.
except this matter has been beaten so throughly if it was a living sentient bring we’d be seeing a documentary about it’s living conditions
If there are ALIENS and the military captured one they would be treated the same way
they are not as smart as us. this is common sense
As sad as this is (and it is) .. the video of the chimps seeing the outside world for their first time ever, after being held in captivity for their entire life (decades), is even sadder.
The look on that one chimps face just breaks my heart.
How humans can be so cruel is beyond comprehension : (
What people dont realise is they have to keep quiet cos the pool reflexts the sound back to them and it is way too loud.
if they were so smart why arent they the ones putting us in the zoo
No fire means no metallurgy and thus no advanced tech no matter how smart they are. It's probably a issue for any advanced alien life on water worlds. There could be alien squid on Europa as smart as humans but they are forever stuck under that ice.
Hahahaha u are joking , right ?
Because the don't have opposable thumbs. Duh.
If your sign of intelligence is the ability to destroy another beings lives then you've got along way to go dude.😂
I can put you in a zoo if you wish
Give them more space but don’t end the learning.
Yeah we wouldn’t know any of this if we didn’t keep them in captivity in the first place
Yes.
@@1994moviebuff If we wanted to we would find ways.
Like learning about Humans watching prison inmates?
@@fjeldfross9327 humans watching inmates lol…do you watch inmates everyday?
I'm glad all this is coming to light and that a lot of places no longer keep captive orcas. That being said im also glad i got to see an orca show at SeaWorld when i was a kid before they stopped showing it
All seriousness aside, That orca sounded like a power saw in the middle of the video
Orcas are dolphins. Not whales.
Keeping creatures in captivity makes me livid! All for our entertainment. Of course as a child I thought it was awesome but now that I know better it’s absolutely soul crushing 😞💔
Honestly if I saw a orca swim underneath me I'd probably shit right there.
Out of the five recorded fatalities from orca attacks, three were caused by the same individual: Tiklum, a male whale that up until recently was the poster child for SeaWorld.
I’m surprised I haven’t seen, hey Jaime pull up that video of a bear eating a live orca
One of the perks of being top of the food chain. We get to figure out what we should or shouldn’t be doing with other creatures as we try things out and come to understand them better.
Once you’ve seen or been with wild animals in the wild, you’ll never want to see them in captivity.
They sound like Protoss unit from StarCraft
even worse birds even bald eagles in prisons 😢......
I feel so sad for the captive orcas.
That guy went flying when the tail hit him😅😂😂
When the aliens come, we won't be able to complain.
Calling out SeaWorld
It’s so heartbreaking I agree
Black Fish lifted the veil from my eyes.
Same for dolphins
Yeah well it seems like we need Lincoln again ‼️
Personally, I'm glad I'm old enough I was able to see a show with Shamu at SeaWorld before they stopped.
I stopped going to aquariums and zoos when I got to be old enough to realize what was happening.
I totally agree with you Joe. They live up here on the Puget Sound and they are majestic. They are struggling to survive in the wild and it breaks my heart
Wait till you see a Killer whale merc a 1,500lbs Kodiak or a 2,000lbs Moose.
"Jamie, pull up that video of a Kodiak merking an Orca".
These are the same things that always bothered me I'm glad you're talkin about it.
Orcas are such beautiful creatures
R.i.p Kiska 🙏🏼
Hey, I'm a Native American and we have one legend of an Orca killing a man in our Tribe. Story says that tribal members were out fishing in a canoe and the Orcas came up to play. One tribal member supposedly mounted one of the Orcas and rode it as it jumped into the air and into depths of the sea, he never resurfaced! Ever since then the Orca has been the animal that represents the Klallam People, its on our Official Flag and Seal. We called them Kloomachin
Can you imagine just having an outdoor event and see if a pod would come up to do tricks for fish at their own volition?
Orcas can do advanced quantum physics, they have built amazing civilizations and they have the most influential philosophy.
You the orca in the unseen pool Joe. That's why it freaks you out👁
Great apes make me feel icky as well.
Now, they are attacking boats
*playing with boats😊
We might wanna figure out what Orca's are communicating about because China's Scientist's is also listening for pattern in the Orca's language too begin to understand them and communication.
FREE WILLY MAN
Jamie pull up that video of a bear enslaving an orca
The only time I feel like it's okay to have an orca in captivity is if it's being rehabilitated, or if it has something wrong with it to the point where it would not survive in the wild. The fact that an orca has never killed a human in the wild but they have several times in captivity should say all that you need to know about whether these animals should be in captivity or not.
If we have aliens as slaves, we would make a huge amount of bucks.
Sad indeed. Ppl need to stop attending these
Rogen should have an animal show talking about animals on National Geographic I'd watch it hahaha. He's right on Orcas
100% agree with Rigan here, especially lions, tigers, gorillas a 1000% you can see their obvious deep sadness & depression.
I love the celeste music
Came here to say this. Happy thanksgiving friend
Those in captivity have this weird dorsal fin. Meanwhile, those in the wild have strong fins sticking out their back.
Watch The Blackfish Documentary. They stated in the movie that Orcas not only have different dialects but different pods can have different languages. That blew my mind. Fuck Sea World.
The fact that Sea World is even still in business is insane to me. A whale living in a pool for life is akin to a human spending their life in a phone booth. It's an absolute tragedy.
indeed, why can’t we all just stay at home locked in our own homes and eat bugs while we own nothing and be happy about it
@@flim148are u really that dumb?
@@flim148does it hurt to have such a narrowminded and ignorant thought process
Hey, Phone Booth was a great movie
😂😂😂 that Orca smacked the trainer with it's tailfin. It b like "get off my stage they came to see me perform not u!"
Porpoises are highly intelligent. Emphasis on porpoises are highly intelligent.
That’s disgusting just disgusting!!! We the People should stand up for them !!!
Orcas in swimming pools and gorillas in the penitentiary getting stared at all day.4x4 cells with 8 male gorillas is brutal
Three Amens on That...
Thanks with Love...
“Bring up the video of a Bear fighting a Orca”
I hate what Orcas have to go through at Marineland
I went to SeaWorld at 10yrs old and remember asking my dad if they had to live in that tank forever..he reassured me that had a bigger home that I can't see..sadly he was wrong 😕 This and circuses, I'll NEVER be okay with how the animals are treated 🥺
ive seen so many stories of orcas attacking and killing their trainers, when the trainers are really the only people working at those damn aquariums that actually treat them with respect and kindness, because they just go crazy locked inside those enclosures. a lot of orcas also attack other orcas in captivity, i remember reading about how the zoos would put them together in these tiny cages to sleep at night and when they would find them in the morning theyre covered in scratches from attacking each other at night.
Well now a pod of orcas is out there flipping boats😮
These alien creatures which are essentially as smart as us, possibly.... lol classic Joe