How to make a liquid flux for intractable points welding
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2020
- This video explains how to make Flux for tough points welding like: stainless steel welding, Li-Ion batteries, silver-coated wires ...
- How to solder Li-Ion batteries
- How To Make Acid Flux
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Hydrochloric acid is very harsh so the zinc will tame it down a little. This is a very good stuff for soldering but it tends to eat up also the plating on the soldering iron tip. I damaged a lot of tips before I realized what was happening. I myself tried a lot of different stuff and I also found that some rust removers that contain phosphoric acid also work very well even to solder stainless steel.
Do rust removers also damage the soldering tip?
@@ashchbkv6965 yes they do as the acid in them also attacks the plating. Unfortunately all fluxes tend to. It all depends how harsh the flux is. Knowing that the plating is very thin on the soldering tip we have to take care what to use. It is best to clean the surfaces with some steel wool or fine sandpaper before soldering. The flux also makes some kind of cover not to let the surface oxidize as with heat surfaces although cleaned tend to oxidize faster when heated. I tried soldering on aluminum as well this time I used cooking oil and keeping the solder under the oil not to let oxygen touch the material. I succeeded in this as well.
Thanks for the tips! The most applicable task for this is soldering batteries because its fast reaction which doesn't heating much the batteries and not damaging them. We should just use cheap ass soldering iron 👍
Excellent. Fosforic acid has even a better effect than HCl with dissolved Zinc added to less corrosion in the tip and circuit parts. Dentists use Phosforic acid in their jobs. It is very cheap and small amounts are necessary to aid soldering steel or stainless steel with regular electronic solder
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I had no idea that a flux could be good enough to do that. A big no-no with soldering is to melt the solder onto the iron and then try and paint that onto the workpiece. It never takes properly and the result is a poor joint. Yet here you are just dabbing the solder into the fluxed area and getting an instant joint! amazing!
It made me smile that you poured hydrochloric acid into an unstable broken container. Holy cow! I think you need to be a bit more careful than that :-) That's the sort of thing I would do!
That's exactly what I wanted to write!
Don't forget to clean the items after soldering with that stuff!
🤣 I was thinking the same thing about the HC in the wobbly cup, including being something I am likely to do. BRAVO!
Your a Genius! some online stores here are sold this for $1 per 20ml bottle 😂
Now I must try this! Thanks for the video
And I have made this. It works very VERY good!!
Fantastic job
Thank you
You are genius
What type of solder are you using Sir ??? Thanks
Rust removers that contain phosphoric acid also work very well even to solder stainless steel.
its amazing thanks
Super luxe wlat sal7a lchihaja akhiran ghanstafd mnha thanks bro
3ich abro hahah
amazing!
Can we used by distle watte in a place of hydrochloric acid ...
Hi, how high is the Acid Percentage that is in the bottle? 🤔 How high need the Percentage % be if the Acid to work? 🤔
The concentration ratio does not matter, the more concentrated the acid, the more zinc it needs
Want to solder 1./mm stainless steel wire is it possible ??
Great work...
hey thanks for the video . i see that u used some type of other metal that you cut other then battery scrap. what metal was that ?
It was zinc from the battery internal cover
It is zinc metal
Good information sir
Thank you
It would be worth annotating that the batteries must be carbon-zinc type, as they are almost unseen in Western countries. Here we use almost solely alkaline and lithium batteries.
Can we use porcelain cleaner for this since it contains some HCL acid in it?
Finding HCL locally is difficult here
So use the sulfuric acid from an automotive battery instead of HCL my friend 😊
Muratic acid is essential the same as hydrochloric acid. .. . should be able to find at any hardware store .
Best bro
Wonderful….
Great work,just tell me onething...after the chemical reaction of Zn and HCl is over,then also do we need to wear gloves to touch the material so formed?
If the zinc percentage is sufficient, the acid will be diluted to a degree that does not harm the skin
wash hands after use is sufficient, use vemtilation, wear eye protection.
Hydrocloric acid is highly corrosive. Even when bottled its fumes can destroy nearby metals with corrosion. I know from experience. Would this corrode battery terminals if they were soldered with this?
zinc chloride us almost universally considered unsuitable for electronics soldering. it's a good flux for morons like me who can't solder because it's really effective, but i've always been careful to wash the part clean and also i'm not doing serious work. it's a traditional flux for things like plumbing, but if you're struggling with electronics joints then basically you're supposed to learn how to solder better, because it tends to be corrosive even if you didn't leave excess acid in it. in general, you should be very suspicious of the long term corrosive power of stray chloride ions. fwiw, you can buy ZnCl very cheaply in a nice secure bottle in hardware stores
@@5naxalotl Boa tarde amigo, sou do Brasil, esse fluxo daria certo para soldar latão? mesmo que depois de usar o fluxo eu jogar agua com bicarbonato de sódio para cortar o efeito do ácido, será que ele correi o latão?
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Good afternoon friend, I'm from Brazil, would this flux work for soldering brass? even if after using the flux I throw water with sodium bicarbonate to cut the effect of the acid, will it run the brass?
Centuries old method used for zinc gutters, pipes and roofs soldering.
Thanks a lot my friend !
Teşekkürler.:)
Very nice vodeo
*Very interesting way to make flux. What kind of batteries do you use, saline or alkaline? Do you dissolve the zinc? And I have another recipe for the simplest acid-free liquid flux. Come and visit, you'll be interested;-)*
They have the zinc on the outside so they are saline batteries.
Super👍👍
thanks a lot my brother
but what will happen if the zinc is more or less , is there a special thing can tell me if the zinc is enough or not .
The reaction of zinc with the acid dilutes the acid to become usable
@@hummmhowto2493
thanks again and again
i made it and it is very good solution for many kinds of soldering .
wish to you all the best my brother
The best way is to add more zinc. If there are left over unreacted zinc that means all the acid is used up to dissolve the zinc so the solution should be quite safe. If I still remember my chemistry, the solution is Zinc Chloride.
@@thiamjoo
thanks a lot dear brother
@@thiamjoo also referred to as 'killed spirits'
Thanks
What’s the ratio? It’s hard to do trial and error
The concentration ratio does not matter, the more concentrated the acid, the more zinc it needs.
The best way is to add more zinc. Until the reaction process is over.
You encourage me at least to order a flux. Next time i try to make own flux
Yo raspo un poco la bateria donde voy a soldar, le mato el brillo y yá coge la sildadura sin hacer tanto y nada peligroso
Bro how to solder aluminium
Must be used with care excessive quantity promotes corrosion.The fumes are highly corrosive.I have seen that tools near by work area show signs of corrosion.
Please just how much hydrochloric acid and Zinc those one need to make this work, I've tried 3 times, and it doesn't seem to work.
New American penny's made after 1983 are 99 percent zinc if you are looking for zinc instead of tearing apart a battery for it.
Güzel bir paylaşım olmuş. Bu flux elektronik elemanları ve bakır için de kullanılabilir mi?
It is only recommended for hard to weld areas
@@hummmhowto2493 Teşekkürler.
@@hobimevdeelektronik9333 You are welcome
Ossom bro
Good
amunium cloride,amadey jopara te er local nam nishadol,eta resin ba rojon er kaz kore kinto electricsl ba electronik jontro patite baboher nishedh ,ete curen pass kore...batarir tay sathey kiso zinc cloride thsk be amonia gas soson er jonno akhon dekhi vaijan ki koren...amd.
Can you use muriatic acid instead?
Yes
Citric acid,is good soldering flux,
Boa tarde amigo, sou do Brasil, esse fluxo daria certo para soldar latão? mesmo que depois de usar o fluxo eu jogar agua com bicarbonato de sódio para cortar o efeito do ácido, será que ele correi o latão?
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Good afternoon friend, I'm from Brazil, would this flux work for soldering brass? even if after using the flux I throw water with sodium bicarbonate to cut the effect of the acid, will it run the brass?
is that flux safe to touch for naked skin ?
If the zinc percentage is sufficient, the acid will be diluted to a degree that does not harm the skin
@@hummmhowto2493 I just hoped you gave us some pourcentage. Like how much Zink (Battery scrap) for mL of Acide....
@@DrZipZwan Gradually add until zinc becomes insoluble in acid
@@hummmhowto2493 Thx you ))
Anyone else blowing the smoke from your face lol
I have made this solution many times it becomes transparent after adding zink to hcl but after some days it becomes yellowish again. So will that work? Or have to make new again. Please reply
Work
Is not in solder paste normally tin and not zinc? 🤔
Zinc only reacts with the acid to dilute it
this will damage PCB traces, and it may also be electrically conductive,
I want to buy flux....price.....?
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Hi dude please tell me how much amount of zinc will enough for 100ml of HCL acid
Gradually add until zinc becomes insoluble in acid
Is this a no clean flux? 🤔
No, My friend, you need to clean after use
I can used battery acid
Possible but does not give a result like chlorhydric acid
Look up HWY-800 on ebay, not sure what's in it but it's a lot more convenient than this and cheap.
This is the same as acid core solder. Do not use for electrical work as it will eat the base metal. Use rosin core solder.
Dima maghreb
damn that's a lot of effort to make zinc chloride, which is already cheap and widely available
This is not too good for sensitive electronics though, its too corossive
Difficult these days is to find this zink material in batteries.
Very difficult
Ask to AAA or AA cell it definitely have zinc because zn is the part of battery .
@@omsingharjit There is no pure Zinc anymore in batteries, especially the chinese ones. There is galvanized steel which has a thin layer of anodized zinc. But you can find PURE ZINC in 1 cent dollar coins after 1983. They are just covered by a thin layer of copper. Thanks and best of luck
@@pafunleal3849 without zinc this battery will not work ,zinc carbon battery named because of Zinc , zinc is one of it's chemical parts .
@@omsingharjit Zinc is in the form of galvanized steel as I said,, in the external cover no more pure zinc as in the past. Zinc is not magnetc...try a magnet in what you call zinc from a modern battery and you will see
@@pafunleal3849 first learn how Zinc carbon battery works you can try wikki
I have no acid so i can use hydrogen peroxide 🤔
No, my friend, it's not work
Hydrogen peroxide will will work negatively because it's one of Great oxsidizer .
Cheap Tiles cleaner is made of Hydrochloric acid known as muriatic Acid use that .
Maybe it is better to be buy some ZnCl2... it is Cheaper and safer
3:20 if someone got to this point following the instructions, then congrats if you aren't dead yet. Safety messages will appear now on.
Is not a good idea to heat up batteries anyway, people use electric point welding for such things.
Didnt work
Hi. Attention:
Hydrochloric acid (HCl) is a toxic substance besides the convenience it provides.
and causes great damage to most surfaces, especially human tissues.
For this reason, safety precautions should be kept at the highest level while working with this acid.
Hydrochloric Acid, besides being toxic, is irritating to eyes and skin, causing skin burns.
and is irritating to the respiratory system.
Those who want to do my work in the video should definitely use gloves.
And this process should be done in the open air, the gas should not be inhaled...!
Thank you
Your wrong without flux is possible witb good using
Hello everyone!
I have 2 questions:
1. What is the effect of the chopped zinc in the battery? Is it really important for this?
2. What concentration does the hydrochloric acid have? What percentage is it? There are different percentages in the pharmacies!
I would like to thank you very much and hope for an answer.
And hopefully “Google” translated everything understandably. Best regards and good luck!!!
And.
May the force be with you!