In this installment we will go through the original brake system and get everything working again. Plus we will throw some new shoes on her and go for a drive.
I saw your profile and channel name and it made me stop in my tracks. Although I have never left a comment I have watched quite a few of your videos. Thanks for watching and for reaching out to me. Oh, and if you feel like trading Corvairs just say the word!
I found a page of Clark's Corvair Parts catalog with the nylon bushing you're referring to (idk if you allow links in the comments, so I will post the link as a reply to this comment so, if you don't allow links, hopefully at least this comment will show up). They sell three different items for this: C178 (complete rubber bushing with metal shell and bolt), C178N (complete nylon bushing with metal shell and bolt), or C178NB (just the nylon bushing). The latter comes with the caveat: "Due to various shells and bolts sold over the years, WE SUGGEST THE WHOLE UNIT (C178 or C178N), but just the nylon bushing *may* work with your [existing shell and bolt]." I'm guessing the shell and bolt for the bushing that was installed on the car may not be the correct dimensions to accommodate the nylon bushing. You'll probably have to order the "complete" C178N and press out the old shell/in the new shell for everything to fit properly. Also, the "shoulder" on the nylon bushing does seem to go under the bolt head, if the pictures in the catalog are representative of how it should be installed on the car.
So cool, I have the exact same year, color and wheels but my vair has a lot more holes in it right now 😒 In fact it has no floor at all lol but it does have a 140hp engine that I rebuilt and it sounds so good running on the stand. Can't wait to see yours all done! Keep the videos comming! Oops, juat realized this was an older video LOL But still awsome!
Some people might not have been able to sit through the master cylinder part of the video, but when you realize that it's better than anything on television, it really makes for a nice watch. I'm very glad to see that you wet-cleaned the brakes but bear in mind that the water in the tub should be buried because asbestos doesn't go away, it only breaks down smaller and smaller, and it will dry out at some point, thus once again become an inhalation hazard. I enjoyed the line-bending segment and learning to utilize weed-whacker line. I have a suggestion for an upcoming video. With autumn fast approaching, I know that I would enjoy a video on the Corvair heating system. Whereas I'm familiar with that on air-cooled VW's, I'm not at all with the Corvair system. And particularly so here with the implication of the air conditioning system. I'd love a tutorial that began at the engine and followed each segment ending up with the cabin outlets. Also, one question I have is if the heating and air conditioning systems are integrated? As in, during cool wet weather, can the A/C operate along with Heat to achieve a warm and dry cabin? I appreciated the bible verse at the end. Thanks for including that. I'm a newer subscriber, and I'm seeing that it's very beautiful where you live. Can you roughly say where you are? I'm not looking for your address. I was just wondering what state and what region?
Thanks for watching and for the thoughts. As time and cash allow I will be buying and working on the heating system. Although I'm very familiar with 1960's era Chevy's, a Corvair is something new to me in many ways as well. We live in central Kansas, a place most try to get through as quick as possible but we like it. Thanks again.
@@TheJayhawker Thank you. I look forward to your progression on this. I haven't owned a Corvair but when I was a kid my parents owned a '62 Monza 900 coupe. Black paint, red Interior. Ehh! I never liked that color layout. Red paint, black interior is much, much, better. Whenever my dad turned the heat on my mother would become upset and demand that he turn it off. My dad was terrible at maintaining our cars, and the Corvair's heat smelled like burning oil. As well, a few times me and my little brother had burned the back of our ankles on the metal heat outlets just below the rear seat. Thank you also, for sharing the beautiful area that you live in. When I was nineteen, I spent three seasons of 1976 living in Kinsely. Kinsely is somewhat in the more southern and western area of your state. There was a sign on the edge of town showing two arrows, one stated Los Angeles 1500 miles, and the other stated, New York City 1500 miles. But I think whoever looked up the mileage was off some on that. I'll never forget the magnificent skies in Kansas. Day or night, Kansas skies are a gift from the Lord.
@@discerningmind Thanks for sharing the memories. I have been through Kinsley many, many, many times. And you're right about the skies, esp. the sunsets. If you really miss the '62 Monza 900, I have two that could use a new home...and a lot of work.
I’m 43. My first car was a 1961 Corvair and I immediately got hooked. My main driver was a 1960 4 door 700. I would cruise around and see yards full of these cars in the mid-late 90’s. Got a hold of a ‘65 500 4 door 140hp with PG for free….as long as I took the other cars too. Sat in a yard for 20 years even back then. That thing fired up with a basic tune up. I put on cherry bomb mufflers and new ignition wires. Only issue was rust in the front door jamb and very loose rear wheel bearings. It was a very fast car. Had to give it up because the original motor in my 1960 had a broken crank and a guy from AZ brought a trailer with a good 80 hp motor so I made the trade. I can’t wait to get my hands on another late model. Way better than the early models I’m used to. On your car, good choice on the wheels. Convert to dual master with DOT 5 brake fluid. Gotta replace all rubber parts in system though, I still see original brake hoses that are 60 years old. If you want your family in this car get 3 point belts. Nylon steering bushings were the first thing I replaced because I still had the bias ply tires. Expect slightly more vibration in the steering wheel. Other than the floors…that’s normal in a 500 because the rubber mats trap moisture…I like them because of lack of ornamentation! Beautiful color too!
I'm glad another person jumped on the Corvair band wagon. Great car that the disposable attitude of the time just kicked it to the curb. The engineering on these was awsome and the stopped with the 1965 model year from 65 to 69 the only real changes covered DOT and minor upgrades, Good luck they seem to be the comeback kid of project cars.
I find that the Corvair is one model that looks great with a wide variety of wheel styles, Cragars are no exception. If I would of had some of those on hand they'd be on there!
The Maxxis are good tires. Our 1965 Nova uses them too and the speedometer is very accurate. They also share the same master brake cylinder, so sourcing a kit shouldn't be difficult. The nice thing about the single reservoir is it forces you to check the fluid level more often. Duals fail too but the fluid level is often completely ignored.
If feel you pain, on the tire front... Here in Canada 14" tires are dang near impossible to find. My '72 Chevy Nova, takes 14s, and I have the original wheels and hubcaps... I will probably have to go to a 205 15", if I want to drive it... 😢😢😢 Keep up the Great Work Brother... ❤❤❤
Good video! Yes, there is more work to be done but it seems like Dirty Airy has come a long way in a relatively short amount of time. Felt like I was riding shotgun during the cruise.
Just saw your videos, great timing !! I have a '62 Lakewood but haven't gotten into yet. It runs and stops....kinda. I have a 55' Buick Super Riviera to finish first. But I'm excited to dive into it ! For those with Corvair enthusiast... I have a '64 coupe (body) and was thinking into blending in the coupe n wagon into a two-door wagon. I have been doing Paint/body for 46 yrs. and know how to. Any thoughts ??
It’s your car so you’ll do what you want, but white walls would have been much nicer and more period correct. The car has a rather elegant design and deserves white walls! also I suspect that that A/C was a pretty rare option for a “cheap car”! I hope you retain that as well.
Yes I do agree, but at the same time I doubt any base models would have had them....none would have had 14" rallys either but.....well.....they were cheap and so am I! I am keeping the AC and maybe one day I will get into that as well, but for now I'm just going to focus on getting it running well without all of that in the way.
Man, what a cool car! Working alone, I've always used an economy version of the MityVac pump to bleed my brakes, BUT I found on the '47 Chevy that I could bleed and bleed, and kept getting air out of the wheel cylinders. I finally realized that there had to be a problem, and rigged up something to hold the pedal down after the last pump. I found that the vacuum pump was able to draw in air around one or more of the cups, whether at the master cylinder or a wheel cylinder. I've done a fair amount of brake bleeding without this happening, so I wonder if the setup of a single circuit master cylinder was the culprit. Anyways, I wanted to let you know it can happen. And I like the music in your video. I'm sure it was a bit heavy for some, but I liked it. I love Corvairs, but never ran across one for sale in my part of the country. I'm curious whether any rear axle/transaxle parts are common to the Corvette or the Pontiac Tempest with the transaxle. Did the later Corvairs have swing axles, or did they have outboard universal joints?
Grampa taught me that there's always a rust spot in the bottom of EVERY brake cylinder. Sometimes small, sometimes larger. That rust begins cutting the rubber cups immediately, always, when pushing the cups and pistons back in... Jes saying, look for a failure in the future.
Loved the Bible verse at the end by the way. Oil leaks are easy. Most likely majority are pushrod seals. Get the Viton seals from Clark’s. I forget did you pull the turkey baster (top cooling shroud)? Mice ALWAYS make nest between cylinders.
That Corvair has the same size drum brakes as the same year Chevelle, but the Corvair weights over 500 pounds less! The Corvair has the the larger drums on the rear and the smaller on the front (opposite of the Chevelle because of the rearward weight bias of a rear engine. And since a Corvair has about 60% of the weight on the rear it experiences nearly perfect 50/50 weight balance under braking because of weight transfer. I assure you that a Corvair has excellent braking if everything is in good working order and properly adjusted.
You're working on the idler arm bushing, not the pitman arm. Are you sure it's the correct bushing?? The two sides might be different diameters. I don't mean to critique your work , because I know nothing about Corvairs.
He's on the left (driver's) side of the car -- steering linkage is ahead of the centerline of the wheels, not behind. Idler arm is on the right (passenger) side, so he's definitely working on the pitman arm.
If your wife is into old cars then she should have no problem or be able to go for the emergency break if the single master cylinder system ever let's go.. I had to do that a couple times over the years and it wasn't a big deal...
And these have the old Chevy truck style grab handle brake. Just grab and shut-er-down! I know I could stop it, but not sure if it would be a natural reaction to many other people these days.
@@TheJayhawker Hey your lady is already into old cars,, a couple quick lessons with the E brake and she'd have it. Don't get me started on people "these days",,,, nobody knows how to do NOTHIN anymore... Self driving cars,,,, GOOD LORD,,,,,, just drive people,, it ain't that hard and it's often FUN !!
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Wheels look great! So glad you showed the pitman arm bushing replacement. Made an amazing difference in my steering and very easy to replace. 👍
i had a 65 monza 110 in high school....maybe ill get a late model again later....this is cool
So glad I found your videos!! We are getting ready to get a 1963 started that was parked 20 years ago. Your videos are really helping. Thanks so much.
Great work on the Corvair, I definitely need to check out more of your work!
I saw your profile and channel name and it made me stop in my tracks. Although I have never left a comment I have watched quite a few of your videos. Thanks for watching and for reaching out to me. Oh, and if you feel like trading Corvairs just say the word!
I found a page of Clark's Corvair Parts catalog with the nylon bushing you're referring to (idk if you allow links in the comments, so I will post the link as a reply to this comment so, if you don't allow links, hopefully at least this comment will show up).
They sell three different items for this: C178 (complete rubber bushing with metal shell and bolt), C178N (complete nylon bushing with metal shell and bolt), or C178NB (just the nylon bushing). The latter comes with the caveat: "Due to various shells and bolts sold over the years, WE SUGGEST THE WHOLE UNIT (C178 or C178N), but just the nylon bushing *may* work with your [existing shell and bolt]."
I'm guessing the shell and bolt for the bushing that was installed on the car may not be the correct dimensions to accommodate the nylon bushing. You'll probably have to order the "complete" C178N and press out the old shell/in the new shell for everything to fit properly. Also, the "shoulder" on the nylon bushing does seem to go under the bolt head, if the pictures in the catalog are representative of how it should be installed on the car.
So cool, I have the exact same year, color and wheels but my vair has a lot more holes in it right now 😒 In fact it has no floor at all lol but it does have a 140hp engine that I rebuilt and it sounds so good running on the stand. Can't wait to see yours all done! Keep the videos comming! Oops, juat realized this was an older video LOL But still awsome!
Thanks for the speedometer cable tip. I’m getting ready to do my ‘67. My earlier ‘63 had the cable go to the transmission. Keep the videos coming!
Some people might not have been able to sit through the master cylinder part of the video, but when you realize that it's better than anything on television, it really makes for a nice watch.
I'm very glad to see that you wet-cleaned the brakes but bear in mind that the water in the tub should be buried because asbestos doesn't go away, it only breaks down smaller and smaller, and it will dry out at some point, thus once again become an inhalation hazard. I enjoyed the line-bending segment and learning to utilize weed-whacker line.
I have a suggestion for an upcoming video. With autumn fast approaching, I know that I would enjoy a video on the Corvair heating system. Whereas I'm familiar with that on air-cooled VW's, I'm not at all with the Corvair system. And particularly so here with the implication of the air conditioning system. I'd love a tutorial that began at the engine and followed each segment ending up with the cabin outlets. Also, one question I have is if the heating and air conditioning systems are integrated? As in, during cool wet weather, can the A/C operate along with Heat to achieve a warm and dry cabin?
I appreciated the bible verse at the end. Thanks for including that.
I'm a newer subscriber, and I'm seeing that it's very beautiful where you live. Can you roughly say where you are? I'm not looking for your address. I was just wondering what state and what region?
Thanks for watching and for the thoughts. As time and cash allow I will be buying and working on the heating system. Although I'm very familiar with 1960's era Chevy's, a Corvair is something new to me in many ways as well. We live in central Kansas, a place most try to get through as quick as possible but we like it. Thanks again.
@@TheJayhawker Thank you. I look forward to your progression on this.
I haven't owned a Corvair but when I was a kid my parents owned a '62 Monza 900 coupe. Black paint, red Interior. Ehh! I never liked that color layout. Red paint, black interior is much, much, better.
Whenever my dad turned the heat on my mother would become upset and demand that he turn it off. My dad was terrible at maintaining our cars, and the Corvair's heat smelled like burning oil. As well, a few times me and my little brother had burned the back of our ankles on the metal heat outlets just below the rear seat.
Thank you also, for sharing the beautiful area that you live in. When I was nineteen, I spent three seasons of 1976 living in Kinsely. Kinsely is somewhat in the more southern and western area of your state.
There was a sign on the edge of town showing two arrows, one stated Los Angeles 1500 miles, and the other stated, New York City 1500 miles. But I think whoever looked up the mileage was off some on that. I'll never forget the magnificent skies in Kansas. Day or night, Kansas skies are a gift from the Lord.
@@discerningmind Thanks for sharing the memories. I have been through Kinsley many, many, many times. And you're right about the skies, esp. the sunsets. If you really miss the '62 Monza 900, I have two that could use a new home...and a lot of work.
@@TheJayhawker Thanks, but if I bring home one more car...
More Corvair videos please! Awesome. 👍
I’m 43. My first car was a 1961 Corvair and I immediately got hooked. My main driver was a 1960 4 door 700. I would cruise around and see yards full of these cars in the mid-late 90’s. Got a hold of a ‘65 500 4 door 140hp with PG for free….as long as I took the other cars too. Sat in a yard for 20 years even back then. That thing fired up with a basic tune up. I put on cherry bomb mufflers and new ignition wires. Only issue was rust in the front door jamb and very loose rear wheel bearings. It was a very fast car. Had to give it up because the original motor in my 1960 had a broken crank and a guy from AZ brought a trailer with a good 80 hp motor so I made the trade. I can’t wait to get my hands on another late model. Way better than the early models I’m used to. On your car, good choice on the wheels. Convert to dual master with DOT 5 brake fluid. Gotta replace all rubber parts in system though, I still see original brake hoses that are 60 years old. If you want your family in this car get 3 point belts. Nylon steering bushings were the first thing I replaced because I still had the bias ply tires. Expect slightly more vibration in the steering wheel. Other than the floors…that’s normal in a 500 because the rubber mats trap moisture…I like them because of lack of ornamentation! Beautiful color too!
I'm glad another person jumped on the Corvair band wagon. Great car that the disposable attitude of the time just kicked it to the curb. The engineering on these was awsome and the stopped with the 1965 model year from 65 to 69 the only real changes covered DOT and minor upgrades, Good luck they seem to be the comeback kid of project cars.
Great choice on the wheels, you wont go wrong with the 14's, white walls out though for sure!
Thank you for the video interesting good Job. I learned the hard way to use the right tools for the job.
Those Wheel&Tire combos look fabulous ! I used to run 14" Cragars on my '65 Corsa .
I find that the Corvair is one model that looks great with a wide variety of wheel styles, Cragars are no exception. If I would of had some of those on hand they'd be on there!
The Maxxis are good tires. Our 1965 Nova uses them too and the speedometer is very accurate. They also share the same master brake cylinder, so sourcing a kit shouldn't be difficult. The nice thing about the single reservoir is it forces you to check the fluid level more often. Duals fail too but the fluid level is often completely ignored.
If feel you pain, on the tire front... Here in Canada 14" tires are dang near impossible to find. My '72 Chevy Nova, takes 14s, and I have the original wheels and hubcaps... I will probably have to go to a 205 15", if I want to drive it... 😢😢😢
Keep up the Great Work Brother... ❤❤❤
I have rebilt many of the Vair master cylinders it takes less than an hour start to finish
Good video! Yes, there is more work to be done but it seems like Dirty Airy has come a long way in a relatively short amount of time. Felt like I was riding shotgun during the cruise.
See u next time with the little car I'm from north Carolina will be looking for u soon
Just saw your videos, great timing !! I have a '62 Lakewood but haven't gotten into yet. It runs and stops....kinda. I have a 55' Buick Super Riviera to finish first. But I'm excited to dive into it ! For those with Corvair enthusiast... I have a '64 coupe (body) and was thinking into blending in the coupe n wagon into a two-door wagon. I have been doing Paint/body for 46 yrs. and know how to. Any thoughts ??
You should do a single-carb conversion. Did that on my Corvair. and it starts and runs so much better.
Great work! Remember...Clark's Corvair Parts are you friend.
It’s your car so you’ll do what you want, but white walls would have been much nicer and more period correct. The car has a rather elegant design and deserves white walls! also I suspect that that A/C was a pretty rare option for a “cheap car”! I hope you retain that as well.
Yes I do agree, but at the same time I doubt any base models would have had them....none would have had 14" rallys either but.....well.....they were cheap and so am I! I am keeping the AC and maybe one day I will get into that as well, but for now I'm just going to focus on getting it running well without all of that in the way.
Man, what a cool car! Working alone, I've always used an economy version of the MityVac pump to bleed my brakes, BUT I found on the '47 Chevy that I could bleed and bleed, and kept getting air out of the wheel cylinders. I finally realized that there had to be a problem, and rigged up something to hold the pedal down after the last pump. I found that the vacuum pump was able to draw in air around one or more of the cups, whether at the master cylinder or a wheel cylinder. I've done a fair amount of brake bleeding without this happening, so I wonder if the setup of a single circuit master cylinder was the culprit. Anyways, I wanted to let you know it can happen. And I like the music in your video. I'm sure it was a bit heavy for some, but I liked it. I love Corvairs, but never ran across one for sale in my part of the country. I'm curious whether any rear axle/transaxle parts are common to the Corvette or the Pontiac Tempest with the transaxle. Did the later Corvairs have swing axles, or did they have outboard universal joints?
I don't think I've heard you say it, but is the color of your corvair Azure Turquoise?
Parts are available all over for that car!
don't see as guide plate? missing?
I know what your saying I never had a problem with single master cylinders I did with a double unit on a 78 chevy
Grampa taught me that there's always a rust spot in the bottom of EVERY brake cylinder. Sometimes small, sometimes larger. That rust begins cutting the rubber cups immediately, always, when pushing the cups and pistons back in... Jes saying, look for a failure in the future.
No worries, this was primarily done to get it in and out of the shop.
@@TheJayhawker Thank you for responding! My respect for you, just jumped off the scale!
Loved the Bible verse at the end by the way. Oil leaks are easy. Most likely majority are pushrod seals. Get the Viton seals from Clark’s. I forget did you pull the turkey baster (top cooling shroud)? Mice ALWAYS make nest between cylinders.
I think it needs a disc brake conversion
That Corvair has the same size drum brakes as the same year Chevelle, but the Corvair weights over 500 pounds less! The Corvair has the the larger drums on the rear and the smaller on the front (opposite of the Chevelle because of the rearward weight bias of a rear engine. And since a Corvair has about 60% of the weight on the rear it experiences nearly perfect 50/50 weight balance under braking because of weight transfer. I assure you that a Corvair has excellent braking if everything is in good working order and properly adjusted.
You're working on the idler arm bushing, not the pitman arm. Are you sure it's the correct bushing??
The two sides might be different diameters.
I don't mean to critique your work , because I know nothing about Corvairs.
He's on the left (driver's) side of the car -- steering linkage is ahead of the centerline of the wheels, not behind. Idler arm is on the right (passenger) side, so he's definitely working on the pitman arm.
fizzy prune drink ✔️
comfortable ✔️
crap not limber enough 🤔 need fixing.
If your wife is into old cars then she should have no problem or be able to go for the emergency break if the single master cylinder system ever let's go..
I had to do that a couple times over the years and it wasn't a big deal...
And these have the old Chevy truck style grab handle brake. Just grab and shut-er-down! I know I could stop it, but not sure if it would be a natural reaction to many other people these days.
@@TheJayhawker Hey your lady is already into old cars,, a couple quick lessons with the E brake and she'd have it.
Don't get me started on people "these days",,,, nobody knows how to do NOTHIN anymore...
Self driving cars,,,, GOOD LORD,,,,,, just drive people,, it ain't that hard and it's often FUN !!
No Dr Pepper for me thank you YUK
Just a spoon full of sugar helps that nastyness go down, eh?
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