Fire Alarm testing a 1990s Simplex 4100 system

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @CJ9899
    @CJ9899 Před 2 lety +16

    Nice to see these old 90s simplex systems still running. Personally I think simplex was the best in the industry during the 80s and 90s

  • @siphonralarms9411
    @siphonralarms9411 Před 2 lety +12

    I like how you called those little protective cages over the pull stations a “jail” 🤣

    • @siphonralarms9411
      @siphonralarms9411 Před 2 lety

      @FireTech7771 I don’t have one in my collection, but I’m hoping to find one in the future. If you’re referring to the one in my profile pic, it’s one that I saw at my local Cracker Barrel.

    • @Twentythree33
      @Twentythree33 Před rokem

      @Recording infinite Do you commit the Gentex?

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Před rokem

      @@siphonralarms9411Your local Cracker Barrel has fire alarms? And SPEAKER STROBES??? No Cracker Barrel i've been to has any fire alarm. At all.

    • @siphonralarms9411
      @siphonralarms9411 Před rokem

      @@DanTDMJace my Cracker Barrel has Gentex SHG horn/strobes. I use to have one as my pfp, but I’ve since changed it to a Wheelock ET1010 speaker/strobe that’s from my Elementary school

  • @commonfirealarmsystems1193

    Your the GOAT man!!! Love your videos!

  • @achannelwithnopurpose1977

    In the states we have tbars with 4100u/es systems which really are improvements (especially the 4100es) from the older 90s panels. The 90’s/early 2000s panels were extremely prone to programming errors and just potatoeing in general. I have a 4007es which behaves exactly like the 4100es systems and i can say for a fact it IS much better than the older stuff.

  • @LoyalmoonieProductions
    @LoyalmoonieProductions Před 7 měsíci

    Never knew those smoke detectors were made by Simplex. My elementary school had those, but they had no logo/badge/emblem on them.

  • @Siren_StrObE
    @Siren_StrObE Před 10 měsíci

    My school was built in the 90s and it has wheelock mt hornstrobes set to the default horn continues and the cafeteria and gym have wheelock Mt voice evac with a pretty huge panel which is located in the lobby that is a fire alarm/voice evac pannel from wheelock. Also, it is a sprinkler building. The school has very few smoke detectors and even less heat detectors which might not sound bad but there’s only 2 on the second floor which is pretty huge school and the second floor and first need way more. The smokes are these weird chainmail grid on it. The heats are the classic wheelock ones.

  • @a.r.aproductions1569
    @a.r.aproductions1569 Před 2 lety +2

    Those smoke detectors are Simplex 2098-9577 models. They are basically Simplex rebranded System Sensor 1400 Ionization smoke detector. There is not difference between them. I own one of the Simplex models and they work quite well for their age

    • @Twentythree33
      @Twentythree33 Před 2 lety +1

      2098-9110 in Canada.

    • @Loganetics1
      @Loganetics1 Před 3 měsíci

      The 1400 is a great detector, I own some and they’re all relatively quick. Especially when I use the fog machine lol

  • @dank980
    @dank980 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this style of video

  • @filmer765
    @filmer765 Před 2 lety +4

    Fire-Lite: “Our BG-10’s r sum of da wurst pull stations ever!!”
    Simplex: “Hold our MS-301C.”

    • @CJ9899
      @CJ9899 Před 2 lety +1

      Lmao not even close. At least the 301C was never recalled

  • @SomeDudeWithAnExitSign
    @SomeDudeWithAnExitSign Před 2 lety +4

    Simplex is still up there just only behind Notifier for my favorite manufacturer (not including the Service and a company). I think Simplex as a company is bad. I wouldn’t blame your school district for not being with Simplex because what I have heard that Simplex will bid low and do insanely high Service cost. My school district ripped out the Simplex system in my rival high school for a Notifier. Simplex lost my school district as customer probably a long time ago. The reason why Simplex is my favorite because I like the products that Simplex makes. It’s good (better then Edwards’s SuperFalty Technologies for sure)

    • @TheCarson116
      @TheCarson116 Před 2 měsíci

      That's JCI for you: they ruined what was once a great company. Edwards on the other hand though has had very little if _any_ faults during their history I'd say: as for the systems you might have encountered, blame the installers & techs, not the manufacturer.

  • @N1tr0_fox
    @N1tr0_fox Před 2 lety +2

    love your vids keep up the work

  • @whelenvortexr4
    @whelenvortexr4 Před 2 lety

    I hope someone breaks into your garage to swap your new Notifier out for a Simplex 4100 ES. I know how much you love Simplex lol. My elementary school I went to from 2nd to 5th grade had a Simplex 4100 U with strobe plates/ mechanical horns. The old part had System Sensor MASS 24Ms, one FS Vibratone HS. Old part had System Sensor Smokes and the new part had Simplex everything. The original part was built in 1957 and the new addition was added on in 92. Two years ago, it was all ripped out for the 4100ES with Tru Alerts. I'm so glad that my Alma Mater is phasing out all System Sensor crap. We're a Simplex/Siemens school district.

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      If somebody gave me a Simplex panel I would have to do a durability testing video on it and destroy it

    • @whelenvortexr4
      @whelenvortexr4 Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric I'll take any system as long as it has all Wheelock notification appliances. I love the old Siemens MXL System and the old Simplex 4100U with the mechanical buzzer on the inside. You feel the same way about Simplex as I do about System Sensor. I was happy to see them be swapped out with Tru Alerts at my old elementary. Now the system will last another 30 plus. I would say though that Simplex is worse now that Johnson Controls bought them out, they're the worst.

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      @@whelenvortexr4 I don’t I like the product but that’s not the bad part for me all companies have issues and to be honest anything made nowadays does not last it’s more that Simplex provides terrible service and is a complete rip off for any servicing

    • @whelenvortexr4
      @whelenvortexr4 Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric My hometown is mainly a Simplex town, mainly older systems. The Catholic college in my town has all Simplex Systems, except for the post office has Notifier and there are a couple of dorms that have EST. The newest systems on campus are in the campus church, the gym, and the student center. You're correct, Simplex doesn't have the best service. I have a friend that works at a childrens hospital and they had to do a fire alarm upgrade to most of the hospital's system. He's a Siemens guy like me and the hospital had an old Cerberus Pyrotronics system and in the area his options were Simplex, EST, or Siemens. He chose Siemens for a voice evacuation system. He used to work at Simplex and they treated him horribly and he said that they also had bad service.

  • @Twentythree33
    @Twentythree33 Před 2 lety +2

    Simplex has device/zone re-activation on all of their panels.

  • @nickcliff
    @nickcliff Před rokem

    I’m surprised the school not upgraded there fire systems to newer versions

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před rokem

      We don't replace unless it's defective or unreliable or can't get new parts for it if they are needed often times there is nothing wrong with an old system if it was to be replaced it wouldn't be a newer version of the panel it would be a notifier replacement

  • @lumenfirealarms
    @lumenfirealarms Před 2 lety +1

    Good video bad simplex I also prefer Notifier!! Have fun! ...

  • @willbill808
    @willbill808 Před 2 měsíci

    Those smoke detectors are exactly 1400 System Sensor smokes. They literally just have Simplex stickers on them. Not sure why they went with ionization... Simplex's 90's photo detectors were much lower profile and safer, and were made by Hochiki.

  • @IanGSully
    @IanGSully Před 2 lety

    And I guess that is why my middle school went from Simplex to Notifier.

  • @KanoaDeCastro
    @KanoaDeCastro Před 2 lety

    Wow! Canada has got some.... *_really_* weird pull stations and mounting heights.

  • @josephfrye7342
    @josephfrye7342 Před rokem

    I might miss that classic 4100 the one with voice evac however the 4100es is the updated and upgraded one. But simplex are decent brand including the Edwards brand too also notifier. Except est 2 panel or QuickStart.

  • @lightsandlights9898
    @lightsandlights9898 Před 2 lety +2

    Love the video

  • @tornadochaser283
    @tornadochaser283 Před rokem

    8:17 WOW! LOOK AT THAT, A YELLOW PULL STATION ON A FIRE ALARM SYSTEM!

  • @vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440

    Last 4100 i saw had 9101 with 9838s on continuous or 120 bpm

  • @ticearpey3235
    @ticearpey3235 Před 2 lety +1

    Even the plastic 2099s and 4099s are designed better than those old MS-301Cs.

    • @CJ9899
      @CJ9899 Před 2 lety +1

      They were both good pull stations

    • @ticearpey3235
      @ticearpey3235 Před 2 lety

      It’s just that the 2099s and 4099s are made with pretty cheap plastic that breaks easier than the 4251s. That being said, I haven’t seen anything that resets like THESE pulls before. Clearly the Murican in me is showing.

    • @CJ9899
      @CJ9899 Před 2 lety

      @@ticearpey3235 I have a notifier branded version as well

  • @tornadochasingsiege
    @tornadochasingsiege Před 2 lety

    JESUS AT THE START THOSE ARE THE LOUDEST LIGHTS EVER
    But the vintage alarms we have at my school are 7002Ts

  • @noahfurry4146
    @noahfurry4146 Před 2 lety +1

    Why didn’t you activate the yellow pull station

  • @odinconnor-randomvideos5267

    The same panel my school has except the pull stations are simplex tbars

  • @dantestoner6020
    @dantestoner6020 Před 2 lety

    Those pulls were originally manufactured by Mircom.

  • @anthonypasculli6980
    @anthonypasculli6980 Před rokem

    Great video! When these were first installed did they get installed by the in house electricians or were they done by the lowest bidding contractor?

  • @DanTDMJace
    @DanTDMJace Před 2 lety

    Pickle 700: *sees simplex*
    *There’s something wrong, I can feel it*

  • @Caryfirebuff
    @Caryfirebuff Před 2 lety +2

    Do you guys ever plan upgrading the system

  • @zacharykorbet9690
    @zacharykorbet9690 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like your realistic system is too realistic for reality lol

  • @alberterickson4614
    @alberterickson4614 Před rokem

    I wonder why the alarms in this video took alot of pull stations to ACTUALLY sound the alarm

  • @dylanchalmers3011
    @dylanchalmers3011 Před rokem

    @NIC'S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC Ewwww simplex lol also what do the big fire doors on the roof look like?

  • @luisgomez6399
    @luisgomez6399 Před 2 lety +2

    What are the yellow pull stations for?

  • @mircomamsecohardwareandsafety

    8:18 8:37 13:28 What are the yellow pull stations for

  • @FireRescue80
    @FireRescue80 Před 2 lety +1

    Love Simplex.

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety +1

      They’re really old stuff it’s fine but lots of their stuff just seems cheap and has lots of issues

  • @pacfilming8117
    @pacfilming8117 Před 2 lety

    i was thinking of working with you to replace thoes nasty pull stations

  • @BesthanddryerakaWDA
    @BesthanddryerakaWDA Před rokem

    What do you think about Simplex bells d pulls?

  • @numatic12stan
    @numatic12stan Před 6 měsíci

    I hate those pull stations!!

  • @NS-Sirens
    @NS-Sirens Před 4 měsíci

    13:27 it uses a emergency pack to power the fire alarm???

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 4 měsíci +1

      The portables did use the emergency light batteries to power them

    • @NS-Sirens
      @NS-Sirens Před 4 měsíci

      was it just like directly wired to the pull station and the bells?

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 4 měsíci

      @@NS-Sirens yes

    • @NS-Sirens
      @NS-Sirens Před 4 měsíci

      lol that’s what I do with my Edwards too pretty sure that’s not csa certified

  • @91alarms24
    @91alarms24 Před 2 lety

    i feel like if i were to try to pull one of those pullstations i would probably rip it out of the wall lol

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      I’m surprised some of them don’t pull the box out of the wall with how hard you have to pull them

    • @91alarms24
      @91alarms24 Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric yeah, i am too

  • @J19_vlogger74
    @J19_vlogger74 Před 2 lety

    i hope that was a middle or high school. imagine if an elementary student had to pull it. they could pull themselves off the ground and still not pull it.

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      Yeah it’s a high school I don’t know if elementary kids in a fire would actually pull a fire alarm anyways if they know to do it I don’t even know about middle or high school to be honest

    • @J19_vlogger74
      @J19_vlogger74 Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric true

  • @FourtyFiftyEighty
    @FourtyFiftyEighty Před 2 lety

    Same era as my school

  • @alexandersfirealarms
    @alexandersfirealarms Před 2 lety

    Nice

  • @Earth_Number_12
    @Earth_Number_12 Před 2 lety

    Are you gonna to do a another fire alarm replacement video

  • @TheJakeman789
    @TheJakeman789 Před 2 lety +1

    Omg continuous. Loud

  • @GaryBeltz
    @GaryBeltz Před 2 lety

    What happens when the emergency pull stations are activated?

  • @northwestindianaeas2450
    @northwestindianaeas2450 Před 2 lety +2

    Love the vids Keep it up but please don’t call simplex systems crap

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety +1

      I wouldn’t if it wasn’t crap but it is unfortunately. they have lost my whole school district as a customer

    • @josephfrye7342
      @josephfrye7342 Před 2 lety

      That’s unfortunate unless if it was properly programmed

  • @jeffreysrailfanning2817

    Those are kind of a pain pull

  • @NotBrainy
    @NotBrainy Před 2 lety

    Sorry if I didn’t comment that much.

  • @dexterthewulf3637
    @dexterthewulf3637 Před 2 lety

    Non-ADA pulls imo

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Před 2 lety

      not to bother but this is canada

  • @pacfilming8117
    @pacfilming8117 Před 2 lety

    What was happening at 10:51

  • @IanGSully
    @IanGSully Před rokem

    When you pulled that first pull station in the video, I was like “That was pathetic!”. So a system test of this trashy system coming up some point?

  • @J19_vlogger74
    @J19_vlogger74 Před 2 lety

    1:51 is it normal for an alarm to cause a trouble?

  • @IanGSully
    @IanGSully Před 2 lety

    Does the school district plan on replacing that system at some point, because it's so bad?

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      It will get replaced at some point but the EST quick starts are a bigger priority we do about one system a year

    • @IanGSully
      @IanGSully Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric I hope your Middle School is next, because I think that system is the worst system out of all of them! Lol.

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety +1

      @@IanGSully Definitely it was bad five years ago when I got there I hope a power surge will take it out maybe the building will single phase again and destroyed it 😂

    • @IanGSully
      @IanGSully Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric No kidding! That thing is terrible! I hope that when they replace it. You take it home, and make a video of setting that horrible thing on fire! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      @@IanGSully Definitely would have to do a durability testing video 😂

  • @chantalmazur4800
    @chantalmazur4800 Před 2 lety

    Why did it not activate?

  • @themasoners3161
    @themasoners3161 Před 2 lety

    Those simplex pull stations are NOT ADA compliant!

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      Probably not not sure how that would work as I’m in Canada though

    • @NyxKemo
      @NyxKemo Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric they aren’t legal in Canada anymore

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      @@NyxKemo anymore

    • @NyxKemo
      @NyxKemo Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric anymore meaning since the Canada fire alarm codes have become way more strict

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      @@NyxKemo I said that in a way of meeting anymore as in the fact that it’s grandfathered in as it’s old work

  • @chief-ac594
    @chief-ac594 Před 2 lety

    simplex has better devices than that

    • @nics-systems-electric
      @nics-systems-electric  Před 2 lety

      I don’t really like any Simplex products The real old stuff is OK

    • @chief-ac594
      @chief-ac594 Před 2 lety

      @@nics-systems-electric i have a simplex t bar and i works like a charm. also my high school has a simplex 4100U and my kiddies school has a simplex 4010. I can see why you dont like them but we all have our own oppinons.