Finally someone is speaking about full size keyboards!! Good job!!!!! I love my Ducky Shine 7 and I wouldn't change it for anything else than an identical keyboard that is wireless.
@@Prod-23 My only issue with Glorious is that they only have one proper full size keyboard and it has no removable cable. I tried the GMMK2 96% but the key locations just didn't work for me. I'm currently on a Ducky One 3 full size with silent reds, but I've got a set of Glorious Fox keys on order for it.
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Great video, the trend of tiny keyboards is really strange to me considering the whole point of them is to save space but most people put tiny keyboards on massive desks. Either way whatever you prefer it doesn't really matter, but there should be the option of both for everything. For me, Corsair K100 is like 80% perfect but it only has speed switches so it needs browns. K95 Platinum XT is perfect but doesn't have the new features of the K100
I agree with what you said about the K100, even though Cherry Silver Speeds have been very good to me throughout the years, however, in regards to the desk space and smaller keyboards, the main reason for that is the *wide* amount of space you would have for your mouse. It's especially useful for gamers who damn-near swing their mouse all around the desk when playing FPSs and things like that.
if TKL is good for someone, I will suggest they try 75%. If you want full size, I recommand old keyboard instead of 2022 keyboards, nothing wrong with them, just many old option still there and basically makes no difference. Some brands rarely has new model come out or still remain those models even newer one being launched such as Filco. They always great.
That's what I used to see in some techies forum. In one of the Discord server of a local tech reviewers I join for example, many have asked about the full size recommendation but sadly they rarely give one, either because they don't know about recommended full-sized boards even though there's a lot of them ranging from cheap but good quality OEM ones to the ones from expensive big brand or because they simply prefer smaller form factor with separate numpad because they don't use numpad often, only for work so it's better to have a separate one. And yeaa they always justify the reason of why smaller form factor will always be better which might not be everyone's favourite. This kind of treatment often make someone who asked for recommendation to flee from the forum without even saying thank you as far as I've seen, probably because they feel asking for those people are useless at the end (I guess?)
Sometimes I really feel like the odd one, because I have requirements that go against what people say. I prefer cabled headphones for the simplicity and "it just works" usability, I still have my DVD drive in use on a frequent basis, I use my numpad almost on a daily basis, and I have big hands, so all these tiny sub 70g mice are just uncomfortable to use.
Finally a review which focuses on the full-size keyboards only. Thanks a lot for that.👍 Also... I was expecting the Logitech Mx Mechanical to be included. Still not sure why it's missing.🤔
i dont think logitech is up to speed with newer tech anymore most of the popular boards are modular and you can hotswap switches not sure they even do that dont they still use their own thing
@@PainX187 on the 512 carbon its clicky blue mx, but can not swap them out.
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I assume MX Mechanical was not included because there are far better, and cheaper, options out there. This seems to be consistent story with Logitech peripherals these days, including their recently released "inclusive" peripherals.
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I personally thing that the Keychron Q6 is the best this years. -Extremely well built and premium full Aluminium shell. -Came with decent switches, stabiliser with hot swap. -Thick PBT keycaps with good looking font. -RGB -Gasket mount. -Have a nob option if you want. - Require minimal moding, if any. -Not very expensive compare to other gaming option from brand like Corsair, Razer, Logitech,...
Yeah, Q6 and Q5 are definitely much better in build quality compared to all of these keyboard. I thought he'll put Q6/Q5 after C1 when I see keychron mentioned.
Yep I have a q3 that the only mod needed was force break but like who doesn't have a bit of painters tape laying around if not it's like $5 at most. It's designed to be taken apart and even includes the tool to open it up. Q5/Q6 would have been a step up from gmmk and likely Asus keyboard.
I don't expect to change my G915 for a long time. I use the five additional function keys a lot. It's also super practical to switch between my laptop and my desktop with the press of a button. And I love the low profile and the build quality.
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Thank you so much for this video 🙏. I understand why many people are into smaller-sized keyboards but it pains me to have such a small selection of premium full-size keyboards when the extra keys come in handy with work and school. I also wish that bigger companies like Razer, Corsair, & Logitech would consider making 1800-layout boards with a full case (Like The KBDFans ODIN or Corsair's K65 RGB Mini). I'm _preeettyyy_ sure the majority of gamers are ready to move on from floating-key designs. Not saying they have to get rid of RGB lighting, but I think an actual enclosed case would make a better aesthetic these days.
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Wish I'd seen this before I picked up my GMMK1. That Keychron keyboard is what I want - no nonsense, no obnoxious "gamer" aesthetic, just a damn fine keyboard.
Own a wooting two HE, and its not a joke when people say its a gamechanger for tac shooter gaming. To stop pressing the key as soon as my finger is lifted, as opposed to the key stopping being pressed after my finger is lifted, and it depressed the actuation point. Game changer for strafe shooting in valorant and cs go. Every video about strafe shooting tells you that you need to get the timing right. but with this keyboard you dont need timing because you are immediately accurate as soon as you let go of the key.
Numpad forever. Literally cannot be at a computer without a numpad. Tried TKL 1 time, that was enough to notice how much I use the numpad :D I also would love to see more Full size keyboards with a USB PASSTHROUGH. So few of them. And for some reason those few refuse to use USB 3 Passthrough :) Also hate bright leds. My Corsair numlock, capslock leds are so bright that if you dim down the lights and watch a movie you need to turn off numlock every time to not get blinded :D
@@rayquazahere8529 I think my optimal solution would be a keyboard with a detachable numpad that can also be put on the other side. My main use for the numpad (besides hotkeys in games) Is for entering lots of numbers in Excel, and for that it would be super useful on the left. Reaching over to the right end of the keyboard gets annoying, and the right hand stays on the mouse to move the selection to different cells. Yeah, there are people who do more than gaming on their computer, and buying seperate keyboards for gaming and non-gaming uses just means double the cost.
It took me 2 solid days to get used to the DS V2 Pro but now I love it. It travels with me between three different locations and connects with three different devices. A solid buy if you can afford it.
my ds v2 pro has annoying noise, it has bad capability to maintain connection if there is another wireless devices on the same PC, also it charge-out pretty fast. Idk, if logitech g915 have a hot-swap, i wouldnt see the reason to buy ds v2 pro. Its the only real win.
I like gaming, but I also do a lot of 3D modeling- and many of the programs I use have numpad integration. So Its always annoying to want the best gaming keyboard, but also a numpad.
The Keychron Q6 has replaced my Corsair k95. Although it's not working with via yet, it sounds so much better with a bit of modding. It also has a knob which shifts over the F keys which I will always look for in whatever keyboard I seek.
I'm looking forward to buy the GMMK 2. I think it will be a very good upgrade to my Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum. I never really use the extra keys on that one and Logitech's G Hub seems to get worse and worse with every new update.
I also have the Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum and wish to upgrade. Did you get the GMMK2 and if so what are your thoughts, especially coming from Logitech.
I'm a big fan of the 96% layout, which I don't see too often for mechanical keyboards. Basically get every key a full size has just more compact. Bought a hot swappable Royal Kludge Pro 100 that can be connected with both Bluetooth and wireless dongle on sale for $70.
I almost bought that one since I loved the fact that it had a milled aluminium case. I went with the LTC NB1041 Nimbleback keyboard and modded it with PBT XDA keycaps and Gateron Inks V2 black switches for a gorgeously thocky and buttery smooth typing experience.
@@Aaron_Lesse yeah I'm pretty noobish when it comes to mechanical keyboards. I just felt for the price it was a good deal since my main focus was a wireless one that didn't need to rely on Bluetooth and had good built quality. Aluminum casing is pretty tanky and I like the idea I can change the switches if I get sucked into the hobby even more haha.
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While I switched to TKL since I don't really need a numpad and I have larger mousepad, it's still cool to see new full-size which may show some new features that my come on smaller eventually. The mini ones are just ridiculous to me, you don't really save any extra space like barely vs TKL but you lose half of keyboard almost. Don't want to FN half the stuff I use.
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I'm currently in debate between Glorious GMMK 2, Ducky One 3 classic or the Razer Death Stalker V2 (Mainly because i've always had razer products). What are peoples recommendations? Also any noticeable difference between the Glorious Gateron Red switches & the Kailh?
I recently picked up a Mountain Everest Max and I couldn't be more happy with it. It does everything I would want a keyboard to do and the typing experience, for me, is top notch. I'm using the linear red switches on mine.
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Excellent! And you've left enough full-size keyboards off this list to do a part two of this video! There's the Royal Kludge RK100 (and the RK 100 Pro with a CNC aluminium milled case), the Epomaker TH98 (with a vintage two-tone colorway PLUS accented keycaps), the Akko 3098 series (with a handful of color options and accented keycaps), as well as my personal favorite, the LTC NB1041 Nimbleback which I can't say enough good things about after modding with PBT XDA profile keycaps and Gateron Inks V2 black switches (which now sounds a tad thockier than the Ducky One 3 that you reviewed in this video). There are a few more but I am really looking forward to part two where hopefully you can cover these other keyboards and some of the highlights featured with each of them. Thank you for the video!
Yeah, I would love to see a second video showing more keyboards. The one shown are are pretty expensive here, so some recommendations with a slightly more budget oriented price would be nice.
Ok wow didn't even kno that existed! Is it being actively supported? I'm actually still using an antique G15 which has the old LCD screen - still useful. :D But the support/apps were always garbage then died off completely.
@@Flohpange Sadly Corsair didn't give independent developers the option to create their own plugin for the screen. There's a lot of potential in it, but softwarewise you can't do as much with it as with the Logitech G15 screens. (As far as i know. Maybe they changed that.) So all i'm using it for is showing me total power consumption, system efficiency and time/date. (Corsair AX1200i supplies that via USB.) I'm also using a Streamdeck XL with HWinfo plugin for system stats. So each of the little screens in it is showing different informations. (CPU usage/temp, GPU usage/temp for each of the cards, water temp, pump speed, fan speeds, usage of every drive, network up-/download, and so on) The keyboard also has Streamdeck integration and 6 dedicated keys for it. I use them to switch between different profiles on the Streamdeck. The potential is limitless. What i'm using it for is just scraping on the surface.
Try Redragon keyboards. They're extremely cheap, and while they might not be as good as the premium ones, the bang for the buck for TKL (K552) and 100%(K582) under $50 is insane!
I used their K550 for several years and was very satisfied with its quality for the price I paid. Unfortunately it had a drowning accident with a full glass of Diet Coke and was never quite the same after. Now I use a Mountain Everest Max that I picked up in a Black Friday deal and I'm in love with it.
Some other great features of the FLARE II Animate include 8K polling Onboard memory for profiles ( no cloud account requirements ) Hardware-level lighting adjustment ( FN+Arrow keys ) Internal sound dampening foam ( quieter experience and less internal “pinging” ). ROG NX switches also are binned for tighter gf tolerance and also have a modified actuation/reset point ( the same value ) There is also a non Animate version at a lower price point FLARE II For those who want wireless, we got you with two great options. ROG CLAYMORE II Wired and wireless ( USB-C ) and 2.4GHz Detachable Numpad design, so you get the Numpad when you want it and go TKL for gaming or better ergo Superior switch and keycap stability due to our ROG RX Optical switches and in house stem/keycap design ( very stable and smooth switch ) Centralized lighting with centered legends Numpad has a metal volume wheel and macro keys USB Passthrough ROG STRIX SCOPE NX Wireless Wired and Wireless ( USB-C, Bluetooth and 2.4GHz ) Tri Mode! ROG NX switches ( like the FLARE II Animate ) PBT Keycaps Aluminum alloy top cover Magnetic wrist rest Quick-toggle switch: Instantly shift between function and media key input
Wonder if you've got your hands on the new Roccat full sized keyboard yet. Also curious since you mention this is shot on a phone, is everything shot on the phone or just the shots where you are talking. Keep up with the good stuff.
Tempted by some of these boards, but as someone who spends an ungodly amount of time in front of a computer for work, I really wish someone would make a mechanical version of the Microsoft Sculpt Ergo. There are some options, but they’re either riddled with gimmicks, have an exorbitant price tag near $400+, or don’t have a logical form factor for a productivity setup. After using something as comfortable as the Sculpt Ergo with a tented and angled board, you really feel the strain on your wrists and forearms from standard keyboards. Same goes for their Sculpt Ergo mouse (though the wireless tech is absolute trash if not in direct line of sight to the receiver). Alice/Arisu boards get close, but don’t achieve the same level of usability and comfort.
Full size is full size. 96% is not full size. 1800 is not full size. There are still several keys missing on those keyboards compared to 100%. Why is everyone insisting on removing the numpad, and why they're making those "almost full size but cramped" layouts? Better would be to remove the arrows and nav block altogether, and leave the numpad in place - the opposite of TKL. See, there's the NumLock key since 1984, which means your num pad doubles as the nav block! But it seems no one is making such nav-less keyboards, which is a shame.
Nice to see some full-sized love. Decided to build a keyboard earlier this year and would have liked to use a Ducky One 3 as the base, but they didn't have the white at that stage. Ended up getting a GK108S of Aliexpress, using Gateron Lion switches and some generic caps to get me through until a pre-order ships. Haven't done any additional work and it's been decent. Will lube and insulate once the caps ship.
I will still go for Filco/leopold/varmilo if you don't need extra function, or ducky for lower price. The diffinitely not launch at 2022, but the last long and build very well. Most of their model still use Cherry MX switch which may not meet today standard feel, but the cherry switches in those keyboard feel much better on other brands especially gaming brands and proved to be longevite. If you need extra function, go for the gaming brands, but most of them (not the cheapest model) basically have same function, because the function is provided by the software not the hardware, unless the brand intendionally block the function to some models. (usually block the cheapest model) And if you want to use extra function without software, please see do the keyboard has internal memory to store those commands and function, even it does, do not mean all function can be use without software.
In addition to the short list of excellent full-sized keyboards mentioned in my earlier comment on this video, I neglected to mention the Leopold keyboards, which do look amazing! Thanks for reminding me, and I hope Dimitri does a part 2 of this video to include all of those.
@@holongwong6479 I see. Well, perhaps Dimitri will be inspired by the success of this video to put out a "Best of" video featuring full-size, 98%, and 96% keyboards.
Hmm, there is the Filco Majestouch 2 with MX red switches for the same 200€ as the Corsair K70 RGB Pro and a bit below below the 235€ for the Flare II Animate from the video. The market really is different over here.
Thanks especially for this. I'm a gamer who sets up their (left) hand on the Num keypad (for lots of very good reasons, one of which is that if you are WASD your mouse hand is stretching and that's going to give you back and neck problems) and also an audio transcriber who types for a living, all of which amounts to: needs the full keyboard including full Num keypad. I tried the 'gaming keypads' just for your one hand, so far they seem to be uniformly anti-ergonomic and non-anthropometric (my industrial design degree tells me this). So thanks, this is an excellent start on my long quest (that definitely won't include Razer; I was given a new one to try and it's rubbish - packed full of stupid gimmicks, a volume knob I don't need and which doesn't work anyway, and FRAGILE switches that shatter if you look at them the wrong way - compared to the 'legacy' one I still have that dates back to when Razer were pioneers in the mechanical keyboard realm, that still works beautifully after, what, 15 years or something?).
Yeah... You're just wrong here. The K100 is missing and it shouldn't. The keyboard enthusiast people need to stop valueing typing experience that high in a gaming environment. Noone gives a damn about if the typing feels nice or anything. Why would I want a overpriced lubed keychron or ducky that have: - worse software - worse/no (dedicated) macro keys - worse Media control - worse software integration All those points are WAY more important for gaming, than a freaking prelubed space bar... This comparison is stupid. Or you need to rename the video The K100 is by far the best 100% Gaming Keyboard. Nothing comes close
@@optimusjgar Exactly what I was about to say. Corsair is miles ahead of the garbage that Razer puts out. Seems like Razer is a sponsor of this channel....
I will never understand why anyone needs TWO WAYS to input numbers. In my opinion, it's just not worth the extra bulk. Especially as a gamer. I often ended up bumping the numpad with my mouse, clicking accidently - so frustrating! Even as a web developer/programmer, I used to find myself too lazy to move my right hand all the way to the numberpad section and I was just using the alphanumeric keys. And then gone from full size to TKL to 60%. It's so cute, saves so much space on my desk and is much more convenient to carry. 🥰
I would love to have one with a detachable numpad. I do use it to input long numbers in excel and bind voice channels to it if a game has more multiple. And for those having the numpad on the left side would be super practical. But at that point I wouldn't mind having a seperate numpad. I also don't like if the function key block is tinkered with, it really messes with touch typing when keys aren't where they are supposed to be. And for a maximum typing and gaming solution I would probably use two keyboards. One with linear switches for gaming, and one with tactile switches for typing. Both obviously the same brand and model, with removable cable, so that I could simply unplug one and plug in the other.
I also think that, at the very least, they should put the numpad on the left. One of these major keyboard manufacturers needs to take that leap of faith.
I've got my low profile g815 and I love it, except for the mushy m1-3 buttons, and media controls. wish those were actual buttons and not mushroom caps, but otherwise, it's great and I love it!
Been using the Mountain Everest Max for a while. Its an amazing full size keyboard which also works as a TKL or with the numpad by the side with a cable. Using Mountains own lubed switches makes it even better. (Just replace those damn ABS keycaps).
I received mine from a Black Friday deal with the Cherry Red. And yes I agree, I replaced the key caps with a 3 tone pbt keycaps. Also love the Yeti Easter egg in the little Oled displays.
New commers to this space would definitely appreciate if you could create a video focused on tactile and silent switches. (is optical, tactile and silent something that exist or is just a dream? )
ROCCAT Vulcan 122 has been my daily driver. I'd love to see it matched up against the more expensive options. For those going for a white theme, the choices have been sparse.
I have too many mechanical keyboards already, and I know I will eventually get more. It's not unusual for me to wear out a non-mechanical keyboard in less than two years, so, this replacement of hardware lead me to buy more sturdy products. My current cheapskate preference is the EVGA linear or clicky versions of the Z20 that are normally well over 100 dollars, but at present are on sale in the 50 to 70 dollar region.
Those are optical switches right? I see them with linear switches listed at 48€ currently, not bad. The version with clicky switches sadly is still 140€
@@HappyBeezerStudios The EVGA Z20 Mechanical keyboards are definitely light based optical switch tech that perform like tradition mechanical keyboard switches. If you want the actual mechanical versions then buy the EVGA Z15 keyboards, because those have mechanical switches of the Kailh design that can be swapped out for your preferred switch. I do not know if the switch connections are Cherry MX switch compatible. I recently have seen both the Z20 and Z15 priced between 30 and 60 dollars especially on the EVGA website. Both Z20 linear and clicky (LK Light Strike Optical Mechanical) versions use the LK light activated mechanical switches I have no idea if and why the description is the same, but the Z15 uses Kailh brown clicky switches and the linear version uses Kailh Speed Silver switches.
Keychron Q6 QMK is the best full size I have had so far. But I can see why you wouldn't include it as it's availability may be a bit limited, and I think you do want to mod it a bit to really make it shine.
Aside from the availability, if you're not in America the shipping costs can sometimes be ridiculous. Not even mentioning how long it would take to actually arrive...
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ill keep buying razer blackwidow ultimate 2014 keyboards until theres none left in the world. wish they kept the profile keys on the left in their newer lines
The Wooting keyboards are so nice and I would love to get one. But I'm sorry, waiting 6-ish months for it to actually arrive... I'll just look for something that will be here within a week, thank you.
Finally someone is speaking about full size keyboards!! Good job!!!!! I love my Ducky Shine 7 and I wouldn't change it for anything else than an identical keyboard that is wireless.
I always swore by Ducky (I have a Shine 6 & 7 and 3 TNKL) until I tried a Glorious with Gateron Box White switches. Well worth checking out.
@@Prod-23 My only issue with Glorious is that they only have one proper full size keyboard and it has no removable cable. I tried the GMMK2 96% but the key locations just didn't work for me. I'm currently on a Ducky One 3 full size with silent reds, but I've got a set of Glorious Fox keys on order for it.
@@joemacafee7655 Gotcha. That is a bit of a showstopper isn't it.
Ducky are awesome though so it's not like you're poorer for it!
Try apex pro hehe
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Great video, the trend of tiny keyboards is really strange to me considering the whole point of them is to save space but most people put tiny keyboards on massive desks. Either way whatever you prefer it doesn't really matter, but there should be the option of both for everything.
For me, Corsair K100 is like 80% perfect but it only has speed switches so it needs browns. K95 Platinum XT is perfect but doesn't have the new features of the K100
It's the mouse pad estade.
@@PaulieVideos you gonna sleep on that?
Im of the opinion that one does not simply save mouse pad real estate because yes
@@suntzu1409 yes
Mice also got smaller, and if we go by r/mousereviews, then anything above 70g is completely unusable.
I agree with what you said about the K100, even though Cherry Silver Speeds have been very good to me throughout the years, however, in regards to the desk space and smaller keyboards, the main reason for that is the *wide* amount of space you would have for your mouse. It's especially useful for gamers who damn-near swing their mouse all around the desk when playing FPSs and things like that.
FINALLY
Every time I ask someone for suggestions, they just go "buy a TKL instead"
if TKL is good for someone, I will suggest they try 75%.
If you want full size, I recommand old keyboard instead of 2022 keyboards, nothing wrong with them, just many old option still there and basically makes no difference.
Some brands rarely has new model come out or still remain those models even newer one being launched such as Filco. They always great.
That's what I used to see in some techies forum. In one of the Discord server of a local tech reviewers I join for example, many have asked about the full size recommendation but sadly they rarely give one, either because they don't know about recommended full-sized boards even though there's a lot of them ranging from cheap but good quality OEM ones to the ones from expensive big brand or because they simply prefer smaller form factor with separate numpad because they don't use numpad often, only for work so it's better to have a separate one.
And yeaa they always justify the reason of why smaller form factor will always be better which might not be everyone's favourite. This kind of treatment often make someone who asked for recommendation to flee from the forum without even saying thank you as far as I've seen, probably because they feel asking for those people are useless at the end (I guess?)
Sometimes I really feel like the odd one, because I have requirements that go against what people say.
I prefer cabled headphones for the simplicity and "it just works" usability, I still have my DVD drive in use on a frequent basis, I use my numpad almost on a daily basis, and I have big hands, so all these tiny sub 70g mice are just uncomfortable to use.
I haven't seen the video yet, and I'm telling you.... Thank you!
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Finally a review which focuses on the full-size keyboards only. Thanks a lot for that.👍
Also... I was expecting the Logitech Mx Mechanical to be included. Still not sure why it's missing.🤔
@@rayquazahere8529 this guy who does their keyboard reviews has a severe preference for 60% keyboards, so thats what he usually goes for.
i dont think logitech is up to speed with newer tech anymore most of the popular boards are modular and you can hotswap switches not sure they even do that dont they still use their own thing
@@PainX187 on the 512 carbon its clicky blue mx, but can not swap them out.
I assume MX Mechanical was not included because there are far better, and cheaper, options out there. This seems to be consistent story with Logitech peripherals these days, including their recently released "inclusive" peripherals.
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Keychron Q5/Q6
Leopold FC900/980M
Realforce Topre
Filco/Ducky/Varmilo
I personally thing that the Keychron Q6 is the best this years.
-Extremely well built and premium full Aluminium shell.
-Came with decent switches, stabiliser with hot swap.
-Thick PBT keycaps with good looking font.
-RGB
-Gasket mount.
-Have a nob option if you want.
- Require minimal moding, if any.
-Not very expensive compare to other gaming option from brand like Corsair, Razer, Logitech,...
Yeah, Q6 and Q5 are definitely much better in build quality compared to all of these keyboard.
I thought he'll put Q6/Q5 after C1 when I see keychron mentioned.
Agree, the Q6 is currently the best full size on the market. Hotswap, RGB, removable USB type-c, fully reprogrammable, and is incredibly heavy.
Yea I came here to comment that this was a huge miss. The Q5 and Q5 are about as mainstream as the Ducky now and got totally overlooked
blind leading the blind not recommending the Q5 / Q6. Major L
Yep I have a q3 that the only mod needed was force break but like who doesn't have a bit of painters tape laying around if not it's like $5 at most. It's designed to be taken apart and even includes the tool to open it up. Q5/Q6 would have been a step up from gmmk and likely Asus keyboard.
Why hasn't anyone made an RGB keyboard that illuminates the 2nd function legends? In the dark you can't see those functions.
Best FULL SIZE Keyboards You Can Buy - 2023 Edition!.......???????
Bruh forreal, vid was dropped a year ago.. brev were halfway thru 2024
Still waiting...
Still waiting
I don't expect to change my G915 for a long time. I use the five additional function keys a lot. It's also super practical to switch between my laptop and my desktop with the press of a button. And I love the low profile and the build quality.
Why is the G915 not on this list? It's by far the best full size.
Logitech?
Gotta agree with everything you said! My absolute favorite keyboard. Curious why they went with Razer instead in this list.
Where do you find the battery to change it? How long does the lithium battery last?
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Thank you so much for this video 🙏. I understand why many people are into smaller-sized keyboards but it pains me to have such a small selection of premium full-size keyboards when the extra keys come in handy with work and school. I also wish that bigger companies like Razer, Corsair, & Logitech would consider making 1800-layout boards with a full case (Like The KBDFans ODIN or Corsair's K65 RGB Mini). I'm _preeettyyy_ sure the majority of gamers are ready to move on from floating-key designs. Not saying they have to get rid of RGB lighting, but I think an actual enclosed case would make a better aesthetic these days.
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Wish I'd seen this before I picked up my GMMK1. That Keychron keyboard is what I want - no nonsense, no obnoxious "gamer" aesthetic, just a damn fine keyboard.
What do you not like about the GMMK1, since I have one too? I'm just curious?
Can we get a 2023 or 2024 edition please?
Surprised you didn't cover the Keychron Q5/Q6! They're both amazing 1800-compact/full-size keyboards, respectively, and they come pre-built.
Own a wooting two HE, and its not a joke when people say its a gamechanger for tac shooter gaming. To stop pressing the key as soon as my finger is lifted, as opposed to the key stopping being pressed after my finger is lifted, and it depressed the actuation point.
Game changer for strafe shooting in valorant and cs go.
Every video about strafe shooting tells you that you need to get the timing right. but with this keyboard you dont need timing because you are immediately accurate as soon as you let go of the key.
I’ve been happily using a Das Keyboard for years now and I rarely see them mentioned.
12:32 "They are not lubed", - said Dmitry when showing lubed stabs, lol.
I noticed that too.
Numpad forever. Literally cannot be at a computer without a numpad. Tried TKL 1 time, that was enough to notice how much I use the numpad :D
I also would love to see more Full size keyboards with a USB PASSTHROUGH. So few of them. And for some reason those few refuse to use USB 3 Passthrough :)
Also hate bright leds. My Corsair numlock, capslock leds are so bright that if you dim down the lights and watch a movie you need to turn off numlock every time to not get blinded :D
@@rayquazahere8529 I think my optimal solution would be a keyboard with a detachable numpad that can also be put on the other side.
My main use for the numpad (besides hotkeys in games) Is for entering lots of numbers in Excel, and for that it would be super useful on the left. Reaching over to the right end of the keyboard gets annoying, and the right hand stays on the mouse to move the selection to different cells.
Yeah, there are people who do more than gaming on their computer, and buying seperate keyboards for gaming and non-gaming uses just means double the cost.
we need a tkl version. tkl is the best size!!
It took me 2 solid days to get used to the DS V2 Pro but now I love it. It travels with me between three different locations and connects with three different devices. A solid buy if you can afford it.
Have you any issues with your keyboard showing 100% charge in synapse but when you unplug it shows 97%?
my ds v2 pro has annoying noise, it has bad capability to maintain connection if there is another wireless devices on the same PC, also it charge-out pretty fast.
Idk, if logitech g915 have a hot-swap, i wouldnt see the reason to buy ds v2 pro. Its the only real win.
I like gaming, but I also do a lot of 3D modeling- and many of the programs I use have numpad integration. So Its always annoying to want the best gaming keyboard, but also a numpad.
The Keychron Q6 has replaced my Corsair k95. Although it's not working with via yet, it sounds so much better with a bit of modding. It also has a knob which shifts over the F keys which I will always look for in whatever keyboard I seek.
Yes ! Finally someone provides TYPING SOUND! Thank you SO much ! Please , do review of "silent" keyboards .
The setup you're in seems so nice, idk why I'm enjoying that backdrop so much xD
I am in love with Logitech's G915 Lightspeed
i have tactile switches, SO nice. not clacky, but feels so right. best ive ever touched
@@bradhaines3142 Are you still enjoying the keyboard? I am thinking about getting it too but not sure if its worth the money.
@@HEZAMOTOSPORTswag love the switches, hate the wobble in the key caps. not worth full price, try to find it on discount or a different brand
I hope low profile keyboards pop off in popularity, because I can't type on the mechanical keyboards with the really tall keys anymore.
I'm looking forward to buy the GMMK 2. I think it will be a very good upgrade to my Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum. I never really use the extra keys on that one and Logitech's G Hub seems to get worse and worse with every new update.
I also have the Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum and wish to upgrade. Did you get the GMMK2 and if so what are your thoughts, especially coming from Logitech.
The GMMK2 looks interesting, but the price is just a no for me.
Good video. I have been using the Mountain Everest Max. Love all the features on it after upgrading to 3 tone pbt keycaps.
Leopold is my best full size keyboard
Hope one day ur channel can review their keyboard
Leopolds are top tier stock keyboards, but I don't think they'll ever be popular with the "gamur" crowd due to their lack of RGB.
I'm a big fan of the 96% layout, which I don't see too often for mechanical keyboards. Basically get every key a full size has just more compact.
Bought a hot swappable Royal Kludge Pro 100 that can be connected with both Bluetooth and wireless dongle on sale for $70.
I almost bought that one since I loved the fact that it had a milled aluminium case. I went with the LTC NB1041 Nimbleback keyboard and modded it with PBT XDA keycaps and Gateron Inks V2 black switches for a gorgeously thocky and buttery smooth typing experience.
@@Aaron_Lesse yeah I'm pretty noobish when it comes to mechanical keyboards. I just felt for the price it was a good deal since my main focus was a wireless one that didn't need to rely on Bluetooth and had good built quality.
Aluminum casing is pretty tanky and I like the idea I can change the switches if I get sucked into the hobby even more haha.
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While I switched to TKL since I don't really need a numpad and I have larger mousepad, it's still cool to see new full-size which may show some new features that my come on smaller eventually.
The mini ones are just ridiculous to me, you don't really save any extra space like barely vs TKL but you lose half of keyboard almost. Don't want to FN half the stuff I use.
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I'm currently in debate between Glorious GMMK 2, Ducky One 3 classic or the Razer Death Stalker V2 (Mainly because i've always had razer products). What are peoples recommendations?
Also any noticeable difference between the Glorious Gateron Red switches & the Kailh?
You guys going to do a video on the 60HE Wooting keyboard? I’ve heard amazing things but I’d love to see your take!
I recently picked up a Mountain Everest Max and I couldn't be more happy with it. It does everything I would want a keyboard to do and the typing experience, for me, is top notch. I'm using the linear red switches on mine.
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Excellent! And you've left enough full-size keyboards off this list to do a part two of this video! There's the Royal Kludge RK100 (and the RK 100 Pro with a CNC aluminium milled case), the Epomaker TH98 (with a vintage two-tone colorway PLUS accented keycaps), the Akko 3098 series (with a handful of color options and accented keycaps), as well as my personal favorite, the LTC NB1041 Nimbleback which I can't say enough good things about after modding with PBT XDA profile keycaps and Gateron Inks V2 black switches (which now sounds a tad thockier than the Ducky One 3 that you reviewed in this video). There are a few more but I am really looking forward to part two where hopefully you can cover these other keyboards and some of the highlights featured with each of them. Thank you for the video!
Yeah, I would love to see a second video showing more keyboards. The one shown are are pretty expensive here, so some recommendations with a slightly more budget oriented price would be nice.
I really really wish that Keychron's retro grey coloring was available on their wireless k10 product. I'd pull the trigger on that board immediately.
Thanks for this review. I love using full-size keyboards because I do other things with my computer besides game.
I've been WAITING for a video like this to pop up to for me!
I still prefer my K100 with added touchscreen. In my opinion none of the mentioned keyboards come even close to that one.
Ok wow didn't even kno that existed! Is it being actively supported? I'm actually still using an antique G15 which has the old LCD screen - still useful. :D But the support/apps were always garbage then died off completely.
@@Flohpange Sadly Corsair didn't give independent developers the option to create their own plugin for the screen. There's a lot of potential in it, but softwarewise you can't do as much with it as with the Logitech G15 screens. (As far as i know. Maybe they changed that.)
So all i'm using it for is showing me total power consumption, system efficiency and time/date. (Corsair AX1200i supplies that via USB.) I'm also using a Streamdeck XL with HWinfo plugin for system stats. So each of the little screens in it is showing different informations. (CPU usage/temp, GPU usage/temp for each of the cards, water temp, pump speed, fan speeds, usage of every drive, network up-/download, and so on)
The keyboard also has Streamdeck integration and 6 dedicated keys for it. I use them to switch between different profiles on the Streamdeck. The potential is limitless. What i'm using it for is just scraping on the surface.
YESS I've been waiting for this video
Try Redragon keyboards. They're extremely cheap, and while they might not be as good as the premium ones, the bang for the buck for TKL (K552) and 100%(K582) under $50 is insane!
Hmm, 55€ beats all of those in the video. Goes with the "surprisingly good unknown brands" niche that has a lot to offer.
I used their K550 for several years and was very satisfied with its quality for the price I paid. Unfortunately it had a drowning accident with a full glass of Diet Coke and was never quite the same after. Now I use a Mountain Everest Max that I picked up in a Black Friday deal and I'm in love with it.
Corsair K100 is end game keyboard for me. I can't see or imagine anything better than it!
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Please review ergonomic keyboards.
Why does no keyboard manufacturer make double shot LOW PROFILE keys
Some other great features of the FLARE II Animate include
8K polling
Onboard memory for profiles ( no cloud account requirements )
Hardware-level lighting adjustment ( FN+Arrow keys )
Internal sound dampening foam ( quieter experience and less internal “pinging” ).
ROG NX switches also are binned for tighter gf tolerance and also have a modified actuation/reset point ( the same value )
There is also a non Animate version at a lower price point FLARE II
For those who want wireless, we got you with two great options.
ROG CLAYMORE II
Wired and wireless ( USB-C ) and 2.4GHz
Detachable Numpad design, so you get the Numpad when you want it and go TKL for gaming or better ergo
Superior switch and keycap stability due to our ROG RX Optical switches and in house stem/keycap design ( very stable and smooth switch )
Centralized lighting with centered legends
Numpad has a metal volume wheel and macro keys
USB Passthrough
ROG STRIX SCOPE NX Wireless
Wired and Wireless ( USB-C, Bluetooth and 2.4GHz ) Tri Mode!
ROG NX switches ( like the FLARE II Animate )
PBT Keycaps
Aluminum alloy top cover
Magnetic wrist rest
Quick-toggle switch: Instantly shift between function and media key input
Thanks for stopping by Asus 🤘🕺🏼
-D.
Omg ASUS himself
Wonder if you've got your hands on the new Roccat full sized keyboard yet. Also curious since you mention this is shot on a phone, is everything shot on the phone or just the shots where you are talking. Keep up with the good stuff.
Tempted by some of these boards, but as someone who spends an ungodly amount of time in front of a computer for work, I really wish someone would make a mechanical version of the Microsoft Sculpt Ergo.
There are some options, but they’re either riddled with gimmicks, have an exorbitant price tag near $400+, or don’t have a logical form factor for a productivity setup.
After using something as comfortable as the Sculpt Ergo with a tented and angled board, you really feel the strain on your wrists and forearms from standard keyboards. Same goes for their Sculpt Ergo mouse (though the wireless tech is absolute trash if not in direct line of sight to the receiver). Alice/Arisu boards get close, but don’t achieve the same level of usability and comfort.
Huge help! Thank you so much!
Finding a full-sized ISO keyboard that is also RGB and does not cost an eye is quite difficult.
Without the number pad on a keyboard is equivalent to riding the short bus to school.
Blackwidow V3 with Yellow switches
I use the GMMK as my daily and I love it. Its a compact full size and types beautifully,. Its the best of both worlds.
Thanks for sharing!! I'm now using Keychron K3V2 White Edition to match my desk setup color theme and also keep it minimal.
People seem to love the Glorious keyboard. Mine lasted a week, hated it. Also had issues with keycaps coming off.
I just love this keyboard! Its Kaihl BOX Red switches are just a miracle. I can type on it very quickly and accurately, and have fun doing it.
Full size is full size. 96% is not full size. 1800 is not full size. There are still several keys missing on those keyboards compared to 100%.
Why is everyone insisting on removing the numpad, and why they're making those "almost full size but cramped" layouts?
Better would be to remove the arrows and nav block altogether, and leave the numpad in place - the opposite of TKL. See, there's the NumLock key since 1984, which means your num pad doubles as the nav block! But it seems no one is making such nav-less keyboards, which is a shame.
Good review, i like my DeathStalker V2 Pro as well, awesome very silent keyboard.
Super useful, thanks!
This dude usually provide a lot of useful information
Amazing comparison
Don't think I could back to a full size. 75 is perfect for me.
Nice to see some full-sized love. Decided to build a keyboard earlier this year and would have liked to use a Ducky One 3 as the base, but they didn't have the white at that stage. Ended up getting a GK108S of Aliexpress, using Gateron Lion switches and some generic caps to get me through until a pre-order ships. Haven't done any additional work and it's been decent. Will lube and insulate once the caps ship.
Which pre -order? What did you get?
@@HardwareCanucks The ePBT Timeless. Here's hoping it matches the white case nicely.
why all the big lego key keyboards all the reviews are the same
I will still go for Filco/leopold/varmilo if you don't need extra function, or ducky for lower price. The diffinitely not launch at 2022, but the last long and build very well.
Most of their model still use Cherry MX switch which may not meet today standard feel, but the cherry switches in those keyboard feel much better on other brands especially gaming brands and proved to be longevite.
If you need extra function, go for the gaming brands, but most of them (not the cheapest model) basically have same function, because the function is provided by the software not the hardware, unless the brand intendionally block the function to some models. (usually block the cheapest model) And if you want to use extra function without software, please see do the keyboard has internal memory to store those commands and function, even it does, do not mean all function can be use without software.
In addition to the short list of excellent full-sized keyboards mentioned in my earlier comment on this video, I neglected to mention the Leopold keyboards, which do look amazing! Thanks for reminding me, and I hope Dimitri does a part 2 of this video to include all of those.
@@Aaron_Lesse The main point of this video is show the keyboard launch in this year, so.... part 2 most likely not happening.
@@holongwong6479 I see. Well, perhaps Dimitri will be inspired by the success of this video to put out a "Best of" video featuring full-size, 98%, and 96% keyboards.
Hmm, there is the Filco Majestouch 2 with MX red switches for the same 200€ as the Corsair K70 RGB Pro and a bit below below the 235€ for the Flare II Animate from the video.
The market really is different over here.
Right now I absolutely love my mountain everest 60 with removable numpad....best keyboard I've purchased so far
Still rocking the Tesoro Gram Spectrum, almost 5 years old at this point I believe.
Thank you for the comparison
Is that the Colours of Coffee poster in the background? Nice choice.
The Razer V2 pro sounds just like a membrane keyboard
The Glorious GMMK2 96% is £69.99 on Amazon UK rn with a £30 discount
Need Newest Edition to this 2024 /2023
I'm literally in the market for a new keyboard. Epic video timing.
loving my wooting two HE
Thanks especially for this. I'm a gamer who sets up their (left) hand on the Num keypad (for lots of very good reasons, one of which is that if you are WASD your mouse hand is stretching and that's going to give you back and neck problems) and also an audio transcriber who types for a living, all of which amounts to: needs the full keyboard including full Num keypad. I tried the 'gaming keypads' just for your one hand, so far they seem to be uniformly anti-ergonomic and non-anthropometric (my industrial design degree tells me this). So thanks, this is an excellent start on my long quest (that definitely won't include Razer; I was given a new one to try and it's rubbish - packed full of stupid gimmicks, a volume knob I don't need and which doesn't work anyway, and FRAGILE switches that shatter if you look at them the wrong way - compared to the 'legacy' one I still have that dates back to when Razer were pioneers in the mechanical keyboard realm, that still works beautifully after, what, 15 years or something?).
Yeah... You're just wrong here.
The K100 is missing and it shouldn't.
The keyboard enthusiast people need to stop valueing typing experience that high in a gaming environment.
Noone gives a damn about if the typing feels nice or anything.
Why would I want a overpriced lubed keychron or ducky that have:
- worse software
- worse/no (dedicated) macro keys
- worse Media control
- worse software integration
All those points are WAY more important for gaming, than a freaking prelubed space bar...
This comparison is stupid.
Or you need to rename the video
The K100 is by far the best 100% Gaming Keyboard. Nothing comes close
Yes, this! But yet they include that terrible overpriced Razer Deathstalker keyboard.
@@optimusjgar Exactly what I was about to say. Corsair is miles ahead of the garbage that Razer puts out. Seems like Razer is a sponsor of this channel....
@@cavedog1279 yeah, that thought has crossed my mind as well. They always seem to put down Corsair, yet praise Razer lately.
The ducky was the one for me, since it and that weird commodore throwback were the only ones with a proper bezel.
I will never understand why anyone needs TWO WAYS to input numbers. In my opinion, it's just not worth the extra bulk. Especially as a gamer. I often ended up bumping the numpad with my mouse, clicking accidently - so frustrating!
Even as a web developer/programmer, I used to find myself too lazy to move my right hand all the way to the numberpad section and I was just using the alphanumeric keys. And then gone from full size to TKL to 60%. It's so cute, saves so much space on my desk and is much more convenient to carry. 🥰
I would love to have one with a detachable numpad. I do use it to input long numbers in excel and bind voice channels to it if a game has more multiple. And for those having the numpad on the left side would be super practical. But at that point I wouldn't mind having a seperate numpad. I also don't like if the function key block is tinkered with, it really messes with touch typing when keys aren't where they are supposed to be.
And for a maximum typing and gaming solution I would probably use two keyboards. One with linear switches for gaming, and one with tactile switches for typing. Both obviously the same brand and model, with removable cable, so that I could simply unplug one and plug in the other.
I also think that, at the very least, they should put the numpad on the left. One of these major keyboard manufacturers needs to take that leap of faith.
@@morgan5941 Check out the Mountain Everest Max. You can set it up however you like.
This dude said a keyboard with Costar Stabilizers was best. That Canadian Weed hit diffy.
Honestly thank you very much
Oh god the Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro is pretty much exactly what I want...except...the price. Holy Cow.
Thanks for the great video.
I've got my low profile g815 and I love it, except for the mushy m1-3 buttons, and media controls. wish those were actual buttons and not mushroom caps, but otherwise, it's great and I love it!
Been using the Mountain Everest Max for a while. Its an amazing full size keyboard which also works as a TKL or with the numpad by the side with a cable. Using Mountains own lubed switches makes it even better. (Just replace those damn ABS keycaps).
I received mine from a Black Friday deal with the Cherry Red. And yes I agree, I replaced the key caps with a 3 tone pbt keycaps. Also love the Yeti Easter egg in the little Oled displays.
Logitech G413 costs 79 dollars where you live, but costs 129 euro in croatia TT
Great video !
New commers to this space would definitely appreciate if you could create a video focused on tactile and silent switches. (is optical, tactile and silent something that exist or is just a dream? )
I think you might have said the GMMK2 Full Size caps are PBT. I think they're actually ABS.
ROCCAT Vulcan 122 has been my daily driver. I'd love to see it matched up against the more expensive options. For those going for a white theme, the choices have been sparse.
Just read toms hardware review of that
It does bring a lot for its price
I have too many mechanical keyboards already, and I know I will eventually get more. It's not unusual for me to wear out a non-mechanical keyboard in less than two years, so, this replacement of hardware lead me to buy more sturdy products. My current cheapskate preference is the EVGA linear or clicky versions of the Z20 that are normally well over 100 dollars, but at present are on sale in the 50 to 70 dollar region.
Those are optical switches right?
I see them with linear switches listed at 48€ currently, not bad. The version with clicky switches sadly is still 140€
@@HappyBeezerStudios The EVGA Z20 Mechanical keyboards are definitely light based optical switch tech that perform like tradition mechanical keyboard switches. If you want the actual mechanical versions then buy the EVGA Z15 keyboards, because those have mechanical switches of the Kailh design that can be swapped out for your preferred switch. I do not know if the switch connections are Cherry MX switch compatible. I recently have seen both the Z20 and Z15 priced between 30 and 60 dollars especially on the EVGA website. Both Z20 linear and clicky (LK Light Strike Optical Mechanical) versions use the LK light activated mechanical switches I have no idea if and why the description is the same, but the Z15 uses Kailh brown clicky switches and the linear version uses Kailh Speed Silver switches.
There should be a mention to the iqunix F97, which is a great hot swap keyboard that doesnt need much modding
Good video but how about some full-size mechanical keyboard options with volume knob + media controls which don't cost a fortune. 😞
I'm worried for the days when my Steelseries M500 will stop working. Should have bought 2 of them back then..
Keychron Q6 QMK is the best full size I have had so far. But I can see why you wouldn't include it as it's availability may be a bit limited, and I think you do want to mod it a bit to really make it shine.
Aside from the availability, if you're not in America the shipping costs can sometimes be ridiculous. Not even mentioning how long it would take to actually arrive...
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Thanks, I really don't like the smaller keyboards, looking for a new full size one.
I legit was just looking up lists for full size and 1800 compacts lol
ill keep buying razer blackwidow ultimate 2014 keyboards until theres none left in the world. wish they kept the profile keys on the left in their newer lines
Please do TKL wireless keyboards next.
We'll think about it. Good suggestion.
if you had to get better for white no rgb than Logitech G413 SE what is better under $50
Still rocking my razer blackwidow stealth. That thing just about predates rgb keyboards and is going strong.
The Wooting keyboards are so nice and I would love to get one. But I'm sorry, waiting 6-ish months for it to actually arrive... I'll just look for something that will be here within a week, thank you.