Final Fantasy 16: Echoes of the Fallen DLC Review - The Final Verdict
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- čas přidán 10. 12. 2023
- The first paid DLC for Final Fantasy 16, Echoes of the Fallen, is available now for PS5 players. As someone who enjoyed the base game immensely despite its faults, it was exciting to see this new DLC suddenly drop out of nowhere.
If you're someone in it for combat, maybe some new and gorgeous environments, then the DLC will satisfy you. However, for those expecting a more impactful setting, new dungeon mechanics or something more impactful, you might want to adjust expectations accordingly.
It isn't to say that Echoes of the Fallen isn't worth playing, but I certainly expected something a bit more. - Hry
It was short, simple, and to the point, but I was a fan of that. The regular game had too many of the same side quests and this one finally told the story of a huge question mark in the game. I also liked that I could add to the music player and get new weapons .. even if it completely cancelled out my grinding in the original game.
What is happening with the voice editing in the beginning? It seems like every word was taken from a different take.
It very well may have been. He might have needed to do some cuts
@@progenlock7785 I work in the media industry myself and that is just inexcusable. If the voice over is bad then do it again. There should be some sort of standard
@1992Rainbowdog this channel is full of this type of laziness. Watch any sort of ranking video of a game you're familiar with and almost every single name will be mispronounced. I understand that the writer and narrator often aren't the same person but there is no excuse for how pervasive it is. This intro is absolutely painful to listen to and even channels with a tiny fraction of the subs and resources this channel have would never let something like this fly.
I get the sense that this one was intended to be a bit more basic, and the 2nd one is where most of their work has gone.
Yes I believe the Leviathan DLC will be their final BIG send off for FF16. CBU3 looks to be putting all their resources into that one with even an Eikon battle mixed into it, as well as an extra 2 hours for something else.
@@MoreLimitless_ makes me sad that it's a send off. Well, I guess 17 will be a new story but how can that top 16 if everything is in different universes and we have to constantly restart
@@jqyhlmnpThat's how every mainline Final Fantasy entry in the series works. It's always a "reset". That's what we love about the games.
@@jqyhlmnpthats how Final Fantasy works
im just now downloading the DLC and from the look of the comments it seems very good
This dlc was amazing honestly the boss fights were a lot better this time. Criticisms to difficulty were definitely listened to.
honestly it was too easy even on final fantasy mode
@@KumanoDKplease upload your play would love seeing it.
@@shanebluesky7452 i have no way of doing that since im done with the dlc
@@KumanoDK there is a way, stage replay.
@@Gwynbleidd_117I doubt we'll see the footage 😅
I'm definitely gonna get this DLC once i'm done with Valhalla GOW DLC an the new season of MK1.. I do have a question about this DLC though. I already beat the main game and started a "Final Fantasy" mode NG+ is this dlc content available right away or do you have to reach a spot in the main story?
I had no idea this even existed
What's this audio cut about? AI voice?
No backtracking? Like stage replay isn't a thing....
What I would want most: More Eikons or expanding on the current moveset.
You see characters like Barnabas using a lot more and larger scale moves then Clive, and I wish Clive could do some of those moves too.
Or simply doing stuff like having a unique moveset for every eikon (like the Odin arm of darkness)
As well as choosing your element for Overdrive.
And transforming into Ifrit form (but smaller) during normal combat.
There is only so many "eikons" in the final fantasy franchise.
@@mr.k1611 well over 30 eikons/summons.
So its not like they are even close to that
Anyone else hear the abrupt cuts in the beginning of this review?
I did it was strange. Surprised not more people mentioned it.
Yeah not sure what was going on, sounds like they clipped together what they needed him to say
@@alphashadow8243 He couldnt say the sentence right so he edited the fuck out of it.
This DLC is just an appetizer for the main course, which is DLC 2 (Rising Tide), which will be much more massive and involve Leviathan aswell as an entirely new map. Still, an short appetizer with fantastic boss fights and of course Omega. Tbh, I actually prefer short DLCs focusing on gameplay/bosses rather than massive levels. It's also why I really loved FF7 intermission DLC even more than the base game which drags on too much.
Honestly I felt like it was missing a little something, maybe after beating the story have it so there is a challenge mode where the creatures in stasis were waking up in the tower and it was like a 100 floor gauntlet challenge, something that doesn’t really give much to the story but a neat challenge for people to play
The worst part for me is i just want yoshi p to say clive lived and the dlc is after origin lol
Does anybody know if this dlc is harder. The base game was way to easy
I'll just wait until a complete edition releases
I loved it, but I do agree with this review, the Leviathan DLC looks like it'll be much better, can't wait new weapons, gear and a new Eikon!!!!!
Can Clive actually sprint now? Or is it still locked behind that 5 second auto-lock used to artificially slow your pace? Thats all im asking, ill buy 10 DLCs if they actually unlock sprinting and let you press L3 to initiate it
Thats what the chocobo is for
@@andrewd5139 .... You must be specìaI needs because the is quite possibly the dumbèst thing I've heard in a while... Clive can already sprint, its b
programmed in the game, its HIS sprinting speed just we aren't allowed to initiate his sprinting because its behind an autolock of 5-10 seconds, no that is not what the Chocobo is for because its ALREADY CLIVES RUNNING SPEED, people just want to be able to initiate it ourselves, it would be like if the game autoswung his sword whenever you got close to an enemy, and even though you want to control when you attack you aren't allowed, that is what this is
@@user-xc9wq4jk1she is right. Thats what the chocobo is for. If you don’t understand then that’s your fault. The sprint is locked to make you WANT/NEED to use the chocobo to run at continuous running speed. If you could sprint nonstop with a button you wouldn’t need the chocobo. It’s literally the ENTIRE reason the auto sprint exists. It’s a feature, not a bug. Maybe calm down a little before trying to demean people on the internet.
@Darknesssleeps that's quite possibly the đúmɓést thing I've ever heard, the sprint is locked because the guy who led clíves programming was the lead from DMC and he used that same lock in DMC ☠️🤣
@Darknesssleeps how about instead of talking you go sit in a corner and mind your own business so you don't make yourself look we tod ed
7/10. It felt like an extended side-quest -- and the Omega Weapon is literally just the Ultima Weapon with a different skin
That one item that gives you 6 stomps and more aerial damage is one the best buffs they release. Air combos gonna be fun
00:40 - 00:52 why is the audio editing like that?
Yea I thought my earpod is acting up or the video is skipping on me
Is this DLC a continuation of the story? Or is this an other timeline? Because I want to know if Clive is dead or alive. If anyone knows please let me know.
Quest before final boss fight
@@Wyse_thoughts Thank you 👍🏼
Boss battle themselves are easy tbh but my main issue is that they are so damn flashy it's hard to see them or know exactly what's going on. I beat the DLC and got all the trophies but I struggled to just know what the final boss was doing because I simply couldn't see him. Also, this was a very short DLC which I hope is just an appetizer for the second DLC in the spring.
The audio edit is a bit rough
Just like FF16 main game, it was “fine”. This whole game came close to being really good but lack of ambition or something.
Great DLC, I was screaming the whole time at the last boss ❤
That music SLAPPED
It was basically an FFXIV loveletter. It was hype as fuck. Also I vehemently disagree about the scale not being on the level of the Eikon fights. The final boss felt like what they wanted Odin to be. It’s easily the best base form fight in the game
Feels like a section where you fight optional bosses who are really hard. I couldent beat like the second boss in the dlc so o have to go back to the normal map and grind and do side quests to get stronger, for 10 bucks its good dlc but frustrating boss battles
Tbh that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Square Enix seems to keep the powerful boss encounters for the DLC not the base game, making the DLC for the hardcore players.
They did this with FF7 remake DLC, and of course Stranger of Paradise DLC which also involved Omega as final Boss fight.
First FF game that I platinumEd so having some additions, I’m loving it. At the moment, though I am working on FF7 rebirth and I’m loving it too going after everything. I missed in the game and completing my cards
I was so happy when I turned on my PS5 and saw this update. I was currently at the beginning of a 3rd playthrough on Final Fantasy Mode. This came right on time!
Dude .. the final boss music had me sooo hype
I saw this update on my ps5 but didn’t even think about it smh. Was caught up in Hogwarts and Modern Warfare 3. Well I know I need to hop on it again. Can’t wait for the next DLC
You shouldve shown how awesome the omega fight is.
Anyone played the game recently? Did it ever get a patch to improve performance mode?
Nope
But performance is good when your fighting, it drops when you are in the open areas
@@AJ-eh5kn unfortunately that's why I stopped playing it, kept hoping for a fix, wanted to play this banger of a game at its best.
@@Braconara1981 my GOTY with all its flaws!
Yes it did. If your in combat it’s locked. And if your not in combat it stays more steady and dosent have massive drops. It’s usually not 60, but it dosent jump from 40 to 60 it usually stays at 50-55. But the second you get into combat it locks down to 60
I really wish they put non linear stuff in this game I want to fight optional bosses and find weapons with different kind of effects that I would have never found if I didn’t go explore yeah you had bounties but didn’t feel like quite enough weapons were worthless to upgrade etc idk if they changed anything since launch but yeah
wasnt there only 1 weapon u needed to explore to find the misamune was just hidden without looking for it
@@OvenMonkeyGamingThis is why we need a Turn based FF so they can implement all the lovely features we had from previous Final Fantasies games especially from FF 1-12
@@Acesinz that crap exists in action rpgs
@@Acesinz theres always one turn based skill issue commentor
@@cdmanjak I enjoyed FF16 and the recent FF’s definitely not hating. However, i just want a FF game that goes back to its roots completely in the future.
Is it worth it 😅
I'm sorry are there different people speaking why is there so many weird half a second cuts when you talk?
Val-is-thea.
Not “Valestia”
Sounding like a IGN journalist.
an not a
It was very mediocre it was quick with great boss fights but if it never existed I would be fine. But not complaining that it does. Just wasn’t amassing 😊
I was pissed. Spent hours on the hunt board to get the best gear only to get better gear in 30 mins on the dlc
I loved music in FF XVI, story was meh, Voice acting is very nice, but I had problem with framerate. It was fine game, I will buy DLC after the end of semester 😂
yease, study smart! :)
Loved the new asddition!
It’s sad that FF16 won’t get an actual ending.
Also: Joshua dropped the ball with Jote.
I liked it's ending just fine. I don't see how it's any better or worse than, say FFVII's ending.
@@vicenarian340 I see your point.
But open ended endings can suck.
Maybe you will in the Rising Tide DLC. Yoshi-P did give some hints from the recent interview (famitsu).
@@jirajirawoo6900 hopefully.
Since there’s a likelihood that there will be no direct sequel.
Apparently only female protagonists get that honor.
I agree with the Jote part 😂😂 shawty was ready to buss it open at a moments notice for Josh 😂😂
"The boss battles are great, even if they don't come anywhere near the epic scale of the Eikon fights. The music and presentation are great, and the gang is back together, what's not to like?"
So...there are no Eikon battles in this one? It's just not FFXVI without playing as Ifrit. I think I'll wait for The Rising Tide and buy the bundle.
Still can't play as Jill 😢😢😢😢
Love all the SE apologists coming out of the wood work to praise bad game design.
I was like 70% completion on the base game when I saw the DLC trailer. I was like "yes!!! All three Clive, Jill and Joshua are alive and well!!!" I was so happy specially for Joshua as he was coughing blood and all in the base game so I thought somewhere in the late game they would've found a cure for him. But yeah we all knew how it turned out.
Not a bad story in my opinion. Definitely way better story than FFXV.
Finish the game. It’s insinuated that Clive and Joshua die at the end of FF16, neither get resurrected unless it’s done in the beginning of this DLC.
Huh? I thought Clive sacrificed himself to save Joshua who went on to write a book called "Final Fantasy". Watch the final cutscene.
They aren’t alive. The DLC is before the ending takes place
Omega was a little disappointing- played on FF difficulty and I struggled against other main bosses more than Omega. It also made it easier once you got to the last 10% of its HP as your ability rejuvenated very quickly.
This dropped 3 months ago I didn't even hear about it!
Too short for my wallets taste, i was thouroghly surprised that we ended at only visiting one tower with one fallen mother crystal. I thought i was in for 2-3 towers to visit. Hopefully the second DLC will be a bit bigger. I guess the witcher 3s two DLCs spoiled me regarding the size of a DLC compared to the base game.
But the boss fights were good.
So utterly stupid to have to nearly complete the whole game to access this.
So this dlc has no story all I needed to hear I’m sick of combat based dlc and arena stuff this is a skip for me
It has a story and it connects, just don't expect a deep narrative it's more like stuff we already knew expanded upon slightly
Yeah i too hate gameplay... in my game 🤔
Did they fix the performance? The framerate is absolutely broken in either mode. I don't how anyone can play this game to completion, I get headaches actively trying to play this game cuz of the horrid framerate performance. Disgusting for SE to release a mainline FF in this state TBH. And STILL to this day have not fixed it.
I've never noticed framerate issues 😂
What perfomance issue? I haven't got any since the releaxe!!! Maybe check your seetings 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
fix your PS5
@@thehitman781 default settings. I dunno what y'all pretending NOT to see. Game runs like shit. Y'all must be fanboys.
I played through the entire DLC and didn’t notice any frame problems
Also why these games so over-the-top these days with the combat effect? there’s sometimes so much going on, you can’t even see what’s going on 😂
Same reason why I didn’t get into Smash Bros for Switch.
Great point.
It may be because nowadays Devs think the greater the quantity and quality of special effects on screen, the more amazed and immersed the players are.
Then we reach ridiculous state like these. I agree it's too much in FFXVI. Not even Michael Bay would approve.
When you play you see through the effects, may seem overwhelming at first but after the tutorial you get used to it i dont even notice it anymore
You just gotta get better playing games ..
😂😂😂
It wasn't a great DLC, the cat and mouse chasing of the 3 merchants was boring, but overall, it added more to the Lore.
Why give echoes of fallen a 7 this is part of the the whole main story to see how this game really ends
Recommend level
Is this review done by Ai ??😢
lol yip
Ultima and the last part of the story of ff16 was so lame I'm having a hard time caring about the dlc knowing where it ends up.
the edits are so fuckin funny. the audio sounds so bad dude
I thought the DLC was a continuation of the ending with Ultima, but the DLC was take place before Ultima and no new abilities, just another side missions and few new weapons and accessories. I hope the rising tide dlc was a continuation!
The base game wasn't very good so I doubt this is worth the money
Most of my 50hrs was spent walking between generic quests or worse spending 10-50min at a time walking between conversations. FF is the creator of modern rpgs and this game isn't even an rpg... what's more I've played pleanty of action games that came out on the ps2 and ps3 that have much better combat than this. Plus who tf let these people make entire boss fights that are just QTEs? This is embarrassing
So no new eikons or magic or movesets or diversity. Just more of the same repetitive easy battles with reskinned enemies.
Final verdict 2000mil/10
10/10
I like FFX 16, too much story thought it's very good and lacking the classic side game like Chocobo racing/Blitzball/cards
Talking about the main game … it really put me off playing any more of this game. While it had good scenes … the side missions squeezed the life out of this game. Are there any side missions / fetch quests in this DLC??
No, the DLC is basically stage level like the ones you can replay in the stone. The first part is basically going from point A to B until you enter the level.
Final fantasy IX is the best of the series of all time
Your opinion 🤷🏾♂️
Disagree. It’s my second favourite. Usually 7, 10 and 6 rate higher in numerous votes including the largest ever in Japan where 10 was first followed by 7 and 6.
I really hope the rumours of a 9 remake are true though. It’s a great game.
@@makasete30popularity mean nothing to me, no matter where in the world. especially these days where GTA VI is the most popular game worldwide, along with Call Of Duty.
@@BlackOdin27yeah, and I’m sticking by it.
14 has the best story by far. Shadowbringers and Endwalker specifically is the best story I've ever experienced in gaming. Then VII, IX & VI come after that.
The whole game ‘just felt “acceptable”’ 😂
dlc i wouldnt even play for free tbh
Haters gonna hate. Loved it already a dmc fan so going in all boss battles was awsum. Will be waiting for new story content and new moves in next leviathan dlc.
more of the same probably , more movie, less game, rip ff16 could've been good
Never finished the base game. Got bored pretty quickly.
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Couldn't get into this game.. really tried.
if they ever combined BOTW or TOTK style gameplay and ingenuity with combat like this it would be perfect.
Final Fantasy 12 was better to me
Wtf is this an ai voice?
ff fifa :D
Already traded in FF16 for Armored Core 6, guess i won't be playing this DLC
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I give up on the stupid trash dlc.The boss fights are to fucking hard.I wish i never wasted money on the trash
Am I the only person who hated FF XVI?
No , it's a half assessed action game with a drawn out rpg story
No, it has quite a lot of people who agree with you. After the initial honeymoon period it has received a more mixed response and that is reflected in the GOTY awards with one award for music.
I don’t think it’s a bad game as I did enjoy parts of it. It can’t be denied it has some serious flaws and I can see why you didn’t like it.
A FF game should be a lot more than just good for most people in any event, as Yoshi P stated when he said his aim was to recapture the glory of earlier games. In that respect it failed miserably.
I am really looking forward to FF 7 rebirth though. I think that will do much better.
It sometimes happens with our favourites sagas... I hated Tears of the Kingdom and didnt finished it because of that. My friends told me I was crazy XD
@@SebaParraguezC I am as crazy as well: First I enjoyed Tears very much, but after like 15h it started to bore me. Maybe because it's so much like Botw, I don't know.
@@makasete30 It was just too easy and boring to me. Way too much dialog, no strategy and party control whatsoever, and it just felt tedious.
wtf is this pieced together voice over? fkn ai?
Hey yoshi p cultists how did you feel when a TURN BASED game won goty?
This dlc was upload on yt like a day or so ago.... watched the whole thing for free just like how i did the base game. A filler dlc smh this game shouldn't have even had dlc. It really didnt need it QTEs everywhere and non stop fetch quests.😂😂😂 ff16 was basically a interactive movie... absolutely terrible!
So you haven’t even played it? While yes, some things could improve, this is the most fun I’ve had with final fantasy in a while. The combat is satisfying and over the top. I’d say at least give it a try
@oliverkick915 I played it over a friend's house briefly. Got bored in 2.5 seconds smh. But yeah the game was weak imo.
Just say you're poor, it's fine
@@jamesjackson6563that’s not a flex you just have the patience of a 5 year old
@@jamesjackson6563why does everyone brag about having the attention span of a Dog.
One of the worst FF ever :/
They gave it a 9, you're welcome.
Uh... no they didn't. They gave it a 7.
Wrong!!! they gave it a 6.34@@frozenninja4030
BORING.
It's time Sony official owns Square Enix. Outside of the God of War DLC Square Enix was the only good thing going for Sony at the Game Awards
FF7 Rebirth and Rise Of The Ronin as well
@@goofed86 Rebirth is bundle in with Square Enix. I really don't care for Ronin, Ghost of Tsushima 2 will be a way better game
There was another announcement but GOW DLC, Ronin, FFVII to much of the hilights in the game awards for Sony as those mentions were the ones with more expectation
Nah, I'd rather Microsoft buy them if anyone. Sony has really shitty business practices and screw over basically all of their first party studios in an effort to compete. All it would do is hurt Square Enix games as a whole.
@@KingKuroTVMicrosoft simply goes lazy on their games. They simply wont allow development to be done in-house and require studios to work with freelancers causing such long development cycles for a middling product. Honestly, Square needs to figure their shit out and come back with a banger that keeps them separate from everyone else.
This is so tiresome. Like ff15, missing story content added as dlc