28x10.5 Slicks Comparison M/T vs Hoosier C07

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2020
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    Here is a side by side shot of the baddest 28" tires available as viewed by many. Some love the Hoosiers. Some love the M/T's. Both probably have their place on certain cars, in certain classes and surfaces. I've been running the Hoosiers for a while and wanted to make the switch. I've only made two passes with the M/T's, but you can see the sidewalls are MUCH different! Follow along as I make more and more passes over the next few weeks.
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Komentáře • 151

  • @narc46
    @narc46 Před rokem +4

    You are the first person i have ever seen use tubes in these. I have used both Hoosier and MT and never used tubes.

  • @db7069
    @db7069 Před 4 lety

    Very fair comparison from the perspective of your needs. Informative as usual, appreciated.

  • @the4flatgarage
    @the4flatgarage Před 4 lety +2

    What a great side-by-side comparison that helps explain tire compounds, tube vs not, contact patch, and wrinkle walls. We're rootin' for ya'. This will help a lot of people out with their 'sneekers.'

    • @ratsrodsgarage461
      @ratsrodsgarage461 Před 2 lety

      It would help if both were new. Kinda painful watching a tire that has not been aired up, heated up and stretched out being compared to a tire that has lol

  • @trentyoung2105
    @trentyoung2105 Před 3 lety +1

    Great info keep up the awesome videos. Just tried some Hoosiers on my 4000 pound truck procharged and had a little spin still. Just got some M/T 29 x 10.5 and this video gives me hope they will do good. The Mickeys do have very soft sidewalls.

  • @kingoftheonelineresponse5965

    Went through this same scenario a few years back on a fox notch as well. Went from the Hoosiers to Mickey Thompson drag radials and it was a night and day difference .

  • @timwickersham869
    @timwickersham869 Před 4 lety +3

    Can't argue with that ,,,just glad you finally found a tire that works for your setup,,,,,,time to paint them doors and shine her up,,,good luck and be safe....🇺🇲

  • @antprice2012
    @antprice2012 Před 4 lety

    I ran et streets on my stang and hooked up really well! That first video you can really see front end stretch till catch limiters and rear squat almost perfect!

  • @joechill3905
    @joechill3905 Před 4 lety +4

    Them Hoosiers are Dangerous your car is all over the place with them

  • @gregbaker133
    @gregbaker133 Před 4 lety

    Great video, John!

  • @SquirrelTuned
    @SquirrelTuned Před 4 lety +2

    Very interesting to see the difference. To me it seems like the Mickey being soft in the middle of the sidewall then stiff on the inside and outside makes them work better, doesnt let the wrinkles go all the way to the edge of the sidewall and end up pulling the tread up off the track like the Hoosier did.

  • @slo_5.0h49
    @slo_5.0h49 Před 4 lety +12

    Car definitely looks more planted and stable on the Mickey's.

  • @rodneyf.9595
    @rodneyf.9595 Před 4 lety

    Looking good I am a MT fan myself awesome video John , keep a thrashing 👍

  • @oscarc.1571
    @oscarc.1571 Před 4 lety

    TJ the car looks like its making so good passes on the m/t and good luck 👍

  • @lloydholt6511
    @lloydholt6511 Před 4 lety

    Interesting to see the difference in the two manufacturers. You could be on to something. I think the MT will wrinkle more lessening the shock load on the suspension and result in the tire planting harder on the race surface.

  • @BmoreFox
    @BmoreFox Před 3 lety

    Great video!

  • @groundzero4044
    @groundzero4044 Před 4 lety +2

    YES!!!!!!!!!!
    Now we’re talking John , I’m telling you man
    M/T is the way to go .
    I had 26.5x10.5 on my car and I never had an issue with traction...
    And for the rest of you watching , fear John because he’s coming for y’all ass lol ..

  • @Moparmaga-1
    @Moparmaga-1 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm going with Hoosiers, great company.

  • @bobgreene5460
    @bobgreene5460 Před 4 lety

    Great content!! A picture /video
    is worth 1000 words, they say

  • @badass6.0powerstroke10

    Was wondering, anyone out there ever try M and H Recemaster Slicks or Drag Radials Lately ? My first set of Slicks about 15 Years Ago, Worked great, snapped a Stock 28 spline Axle in my 8.8 on Second Run. That was 15 Years Ago, wondering how they are nowadays ? I been using the Mickey Thompson ET Street Pro Drag Radials 275/60 last few years. And really liking them.

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 Před 4 lety

    So does a softer sidewall make a tire more prone to potentially wadding up and going into tire shake? Seems it might if you don’t get enough wheel speed?.

  • @brianwilson5666
    @brianwilson5666 Před 4 lety

    I have the same hoosiers but in 29.5 x10.5 also in a much slower car and I could feel it spinning not as bad as your car. But when I have the money I’m going back to a bias ply slick

  • @timhorn4038
    @timhorn4038 Před 4 lety

    Great win !! Stay in the gas kick some ass ! 👊

  • @champspec
    @champspec Před 2 lety

    What power level would you say beadlocks are required? (Obviously lots of other variables) I’m working on my first manual trans drag setup. I’m trying to get a better understanding of the different setups. I’m leaning towards a bias ply slick. I guess my power level is about 80% of what your fox puts down

  • @philipmazzuca2269
    @philipmazzuca2269 Před 4 lety +11

    I found the M/T works better on a lighter car and the Hoosier on a heavier car

    • @mikeypooh1
      @mikeypooh1 Před 2 lety +1

      What weight is considered heavy?

    • @Anarchy-Is-Liberty
      @Anarchy-Is-Liberty Před rokem

      @@mikeypooh1 Wondering this too. My S10 is 3480, and I'd consider that "heavy", but I know lots of folks with heavier vehicles, running both Hoosier and M/T's.

  • @young11984
    @young11984 Před 4 lety

    Always liked the predictability of the MTs, on my car i never knew what Hoosiers were going to do. Same lane all day and nearly same ETs some passes they dead stick all way, some they would skate mid to end of the track and if it was late in the evening and i saw dew on cars i was like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs.... i knew shit was going to happen but didnt know when or where. Went back to MTs and felt like a sunday drive again. Granted low 6s i am nowhere near your power level either, good luck.

  • @jsmitty347
    @jsmitty347 Před 4 lety

    So what is your reason for wanting to go with a slick just curious once I went to a radial I never wanted to go back

  • @jeremyeubanks2387
    @jeremyeubanks2387 Před 4 lety +5

    "Feel which one is softer or harder"
    That's what she said....lol
    I'm a dork

  • @diygaragetx
    @diygaragetx Před 4 lety +4

    Theres a reason all the fast cars run MT on a decent track and Hoosier on no prep and street. A Hoosier tire will tire shake often on a sticky track.

  • @Canadianchucknorris69
    @Canadianchucknorris69 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing, any updates? What size of rims 15x10”?

  • @rayray-ou8xc
    @rayray-ou8xc Před 4 lety +1

    got my new TJ shirt ! love it

  • @1986montecarloss496
    @1986montecarloss496 Před 2 lety

    @Turbo John Also looks like you went from metal doors with glass to fiberglass doors with lexan so you dropped a lot of weight maybe that’s why the m/t worked better

  • @utahcountypicazospage5412

    So these are drag radials or slicks and Are These stiff sidewall slicks i have a 3600 stall and 410 and street tires spin 1st middle of second I’m finally moving so looking for something like this sorry if my questions are dumb I’m new

  • @jrlegend23
    @jrlegend23 Před 3 lety +1

    So do you prefer slicks over brackets on no prep?

  • @RickyTannSon
    @RickyTannSon Před 4 lety +11

    M/T To The Front 💪🏼

  • @davidcstrouse3085
    @davidcstrouse3085 Před 2 lety

    You can definitely see the M/T tires hookin but I can't help wondering why nobody uses good year slicks.

  • @mattiasjansson4102
    @mattiasjansson4102 Před 4 lety +1

    i wonder how the non stiff M/T are , they must be super soft

  • @stephenparker8460
    @stephenparker8460 Před 4 lety

    John has anyone told you that you look like Wooly Willy with this new haircut yet lol. Keep up the good work dude👍🏼

  • @RaceRedFairmont
    @RaceRedFairmont Před 2 lety

    for on track racing do you like the M/T better ?

  • @brendanmccarthy492
    @brendanmccarthy492 Před 3 lety

    Hoosier seems more of a street or no prep tire. Tend to shake on the track with good prep. That m/t tho hooks and plants very well.

  • @doughopkinsjr
    @doughopkinsjr Před 4 lety

    Never ran Hoosiers. I have ran Mickey's and good years. Sticky mickeys have been so consistent and last a few seasons for me being a bracket racer who runs 5.70s.

  • @tnts79
    @tnts79 Před 2 lety

    The C07 Hoosier needed more air based on what I am seeing. The even with the stiffer sidewall you were still wadding it up.

  • @centermass4962
    @centermass4962 Před 4 lety +3

    U will get down the track on the Mickeys. And they look good too.

  • @tylerzesiger7648
    @tylerzesiger7648 Před 4 lety

    Yessss! Some people might be in trouble!!

  • @billbraski2175
    @billbraski2175 Před 3 lety

    Great vid thanks

  • @angelobovara317
    @angelobovara317 Před 3 lety

    Wow. Good vid.
    Liked

  • @allenlord3679
    @allenlord3679 Před 4 lety

    In my opinion in vehicles I've driven. Small tire M/T and a Big tire Hoosiers. Found ALOT of people seem to do the same. Maybe someway to get it to hook but if so, its a highly guarded secret.🤣😂 M/T to the front. Get them greenlight's.

  • @zextreme533
    @zextreme533 Před 2 lety +1

    Which one had a better 60 foot?

  • @14gt500
    @14gt500 Před 2 lety +2

    Not saying which ones are better, but that track looks a lot better prepped with the MT. If it is, that makes all the difference.

  • @johnnymoran1177
    @johnnymoran1177 Před 2 lety

    Working in the shop in flops! Haha, is that Shawn Murder Nova?

  • @victormuff7024
    @victormuff7024 Před 2 lety

    Have you tried GOODYEAR D5 "2796" 29X10.9X15

  • @JayDee-bz2ge
    @JayDee-bz2ge Před 3 lety

    Nice car..light n fast... I wonder if the same "test" on a huge Chevelle would require more psi to make the MT safe, yet the HOOSIER would start wrinkling more..?? m
    My 1967 Toyota CORONA turbo LS build will be around 2,500 pounds. Looks like the MT's are the ones to buy...28x10s.. I'll get hoosier 26x10s and have scat trak put paddles for the sand dunes.... Yes, Dumont dunes and Glamis hill racing is insane fun...

  • @808redneckify
    @808redneckify Před 2 lety

    So when would you want those stiffer Hoosiers?

  • @johncox6292
    @johncox6292 Před 4 lety +1

    What’s the reason for tubes

  • @lisalarrr
    @lisalarrr Před 2 lety

    So what races have you won on these tires?

  • @gearjunkie3412
    @gearjunkie3412 Před 3 lety

    Have you driven on the street with a bias ply

  • @ChevelleMafia69
    @ChevelleMafia69 Před 3 lety

    What is the wheel width???

  • @brianmchattie1475
    @brianmchattie1475 Před 4 lety

    thats why they recommend the tubes in them

  • @jasonstrester
    @jasonstrester Před 3 lety

    What psi is that on the MT?

  • @mitchdenner9743
    @mitchdenner9743 Před 4 lety +1

    Think the Hoosiers being stiffer, upset the tire after the initial wrinkle snaps back which causes them to break loose. The softer Mickeys soak up the springback after the wrinkle. Does that make sense? You can definitely see less and bigger wrinkles on the Hoosiers, and more finer wrinkles on the M/Ts. Your car is to light and fast for a stiffer tire. They would probably work better on a heavier car at the same power.

  • @scotthall1215
    @scotthall1215 Před 4 lety +1

    John the MT make the mustang run way better. Do Goodyear or Firestone make your size drag tire? If so let see witch one is best on the car. Think the viewers would chip in on it. I would like to see it

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety +1

      I don’t know, never looked at those. 28x10.5 15” rim c is what we use.

  • @josephlay288
    @josephlay288 Před 4 lety

    Did u say this is M/T's version of the stiff side wall slick? J/w cause weve been runing m/t but not the stiff side wall but eant to try them because its really smashing tire out of hole. Even with high air pressure.

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety

      Yes, these are the 3055S with a tube

    • @josephlay288
      @josephlay288 Před 4 lety

      @@TurboJohnRacing ok cool thanks man. Your Car sure looked like it really seally stayed hooked up better an didnt get on top of the tire at all. But gonna have to order some an try thrm my self now. Thanks again.

  • @321-Gone
    @321-Gone Před 4 lety

    back in the hi 4s

  • @rhansen435
    @rhansen435 Před 4 lety

    Can you get a softer compound?Maybe that will make it bite more.Even a softer Hoosier would perform better.

    • @coltonshimko799
      @coltonshimko799 Před 4 lety +1

      Hoosier makes so many different slicks it's unreal. I personally prefer Hoosier. The QTP compound, the D05 and D06 are 3 of the best compounds out there for a poorly prepped track or street.
      I will say MT has the radial tire market for sure though.

  • @dennykatz157
    @dennykatz157 Před 4 lety

    Hi John! Looking at the picture of the Hoosier wrinkling you can see that the slick is on the verge of wadding up which will cause tire shake and then tire spin if you dont lift! I dont know if you were giving the mt s more power on successive runs but the tire did not wad up like the Hoosier did and from the sound of the tire it sounded like it was digging and not too much excessive spinning and it stayed hooked very well! Was there any difference in 60' times between the two tires? That should tell you which tire is better. Also how much air pressure in the mt s? You can play with it up or down to see what your car likes! Great video also!

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety

      The Hoosiers, over the past few weeks I have tried 10-14psi and a lot of different shock and instant center settings! MT last night was 11.5

  • @ShaunOconnell
    @ShaunOconnell Před 4 lety

    I’ve heard that some people run that same Mickey Thompson without a tube, what do you think about that?

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety +1

      I don't know, everyone told me to make sure I put a tube in it

    • @Stevesbe
      @Stevesbe Před 4 lety

      I ran mine without tubes on all my cars they lose air but I never had a problem

  • @alan04c52
    @alan04c52 Před 3 lety

    Nice 252 cars lol I was looking up Hoosiers vs mt

  • @BEYTEK
    @BEYTEK Před 3 lety +1

    hi john, im from the uk. I have a no prep airfeild that i use. im planning on 26" x 10" x15" tyre but not sure what width rim i should use? Should i go for an 10" wide wheel or less?
    Many thanks

  • @Jvcomet
    @Jvcomet Před 4 lety

    Looks a lot better did the 60’ and ET come back ?

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety

      It was still soft, but it would not go down there on Hoosiers. 1.31. We will see next week if it can hold some power

    • @Jvcomet
      @Jvcomet Před 4 lety

      Well at least it’s in the right direction 👍

  • @LegacyGarage
    @LegacyGarage Před 3 lety +1

    Of course its softer then c07, should try the d06

  • @ChevelleMafia69
    @ChevelleMafia69 Před 3 lety +2

    The Hoosiers especially the stiff sidewall work better on heavier cars in my opinion

  • @jasonkliemann2491
    @jasonkliemann2491 Před 4 lety

    for 28/10.5 tire I love M/T. Hoosiers dont start working for me untill 29.5 11.5

  • @josephfoster5891
    @josephfoster5891 Před 2 lety

    Go with the Mickeys and readjust your rear suspension. You've got alot of wheel spin and seeing you almost lose control you need more weight downward. Stick with Mickeys and play with suspension you'll be 👍

  • @SketchysGarage
    @SketchysGarage Před 4 lety

    She says she prefers the stiff side walls!😂

  • @keysautorepair6038
    @keysautorepair6038 Před 4 lety

    Congratulations john 3 months later lol their is a trick I use to renew my Mts I let the air out to 6lbs put soda on my flat concrete floor and burn some rubber off and Wala back in business again about every 20 passes they tread will get wierd looking then u know what time it is 60 will be back down to 1.26

  • @UncleRodneysPerformance

    Any reason you didn’t try them without the tubes?

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety +1

      Everyone told me to put tubes in. And the side wall was a lot softer than the Hoosiers

  • @gregcochran5694
    @gregcochran5694 Před 3 lety

    True no prep Hoosier to the fronts.

  • @fegoins
    @fegoins Před 4 lety

    Do you balance with the beadlocks?

  • @jims5852
    @jims5852 Před 4 lety

    Haulin ass Tj,Yes🤞!!!

  • @lindsaymcpherson4744
    @lindsaymcpherson4744 Před 3 lety

    Which tire was faster ? great video too !!

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 3 lety +1

      MT faster on a smooth no prep surface.

    • @josephlay288
      @josephlay288 Před 2 lety

      @@TurboJohnRacinghow much faster was the MT VS the 5.23 with C07 and were they both pretty decently preped when u ran those numbers. U dont have to tell what it ran on MT S side wall just curious i know know1 likes to talk times. Ive been high 5 30s on reg slick. but never had stiff side wall and im losing a ton of time crushing tire bad and when it goes back to shape its unloading rear. So gonna try some still side walls. Jus wondering how much faster the MT is on a decent surface.

  • @darrinstroik2110
    @darrinstroik2110 Před 4 lety

    How much you gonna sale hr Hoosiers for? It would cost a fortune to ship to new Mexico lol

  • @Novaman-rx3er
    @Novaman-rx3er Před 4 lety

    I run 29.5 x 10.5S luv the stiff sidewalk performance

    • @Novaman-rx3er
      @Novaman-rx3er Před 4 lety

      125 passes on mine b4 that were crap!
      I run more air with the S than normal sidewall I bracket race a Nova not fast 6.58 102 in 1/8 normally run 13.5 lbs air pressure

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Před 4 lety

      So do you run a higher psi to gain wheel speed?

    • @Novaman-rx3er
      @Novaman-rx3er Před 4 lety

      I try to run as much psi as I can as long as it doesn’t spin on launch I guess in theory tires turn over down track easier with more psi. I was always told to run as much psi as possible as long as it hooks

    • @srtreaper9000
      @srtreaper9000 Před 3 lety

      Which tire is lighter?

  • @TheFreezy306
    @TheFreezy306 Před 4 lety

    Rotating those Mickey's every 2 passes or so helps a ton with life. Good tire but they can go away quick if you don't rotate them.

    • @TurboJohnRacing
      @TurboJohnRacing  Před 4 lety

      Yes, that’s the plan for sure!

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Před 4 lety

      Wow, it’s so odd to think about changing a tires direction. We are all so so accustomed to radials that’s of course are single directional. Takes me back to my first car in the 70’s when we used to cross rotate the tires.

  • @conradhenderson8424
    @conradhenderson8424 Před 4 lety

    Things have changed because Hoosiers were used by the big boys and M/Ts were for the budget minded racers.... Maybe you were using too much air pressure

  • @luisacuna2791
    @luisacuna2791 Před 17 dny

    Do you really need a tube for the MT

  • @Loustylz203
    @Loustylz203 Před 2 lety

    There softer cuz there designed for tubes i think

  • @WhiteTrashMotorsports
    @WhiteTrashMotorsports Před 2 lety

    The more power you make the faster it beats up the tires.

  • @okday72
    @okday72 Před 4 lety

    That wasn't as much of a caparison as it was him convincing himself the M/Ts are better, like the shot in the dark suspension changes he convinces himself on. It seems like he's met the limit of what his suspension is going to give him and anything from here on out might help but won't be the end all fix he's hoping for. Either way I'm a fan of Turbo John and am rooting for him to get some wins.

  • @RPM393
    @RPM393 Před 3 lety

    Tubes!!!!

  • @72plyduster1
    @72plyduster1 Před měsícem

    Without any numbers how can anyone compare your example

  • @johnmorton7202
    @johnmorton7202 Před 3 lety

    when boost kick in

  • @larrysutton6530
    @larrysutton6530 Před 4 lety +4

    I have heard that the Hoosiers are more of a street/noprep tire and the M/T are for a preped surface. Another thing I wonder about is comparing a tube style tire with a non tube style tire a fair comparison 🤔? Does one brand offer both styles if so would you have the same results with a tire that matches the style of the other one be it a tube style or non tube style regardless of the brand? I think it would be worth looking into because if they react the same you might have a less expensive option.

  • @ronmiller1162
    @ronmiller1162 Před 4 lety

    them damn hoosiers could have killed turbo john now on a serious note M/T are making your car react the way it used to , i mean as soon as i saw car leave the line I said to my self wow thats all it took was a couple of dollars for new M/T s hell i was loosing sleep over that suspension. lets hope that the slicks will continue to work

  • @marco5.025
    @marco5.025 Před 4 lety +1

    Put a Hoosier left side and a Mickey Thompson right side and send it haha

  • @mohammedaljohail1733
    @mohammedaljohail1733 Před 3 lety

    M/T Small tires King.. Hoosler #1 on the big tires

  • @crsracing1313
    @crsracing1313 Před 2 lety

    I only run M/T bias ply slicks (ET Drag) or Goodyear Eagle Dragway special (bias ply slicks) I hate Hoosier. I’m my opinion, mt is the original tire and still used to this day so you can’t beat it🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @rhansen435
    @rhansen435 Před 4 lety

    Did you check the circumference of both tires to see if they are equal?

    • @rhansen435
      @rhansen435 Před 4 lety

      I would definitely measure both tires to be sure they are equal.

    • @rhansen435
      @rhansen435 Před 4 lety

      After multiple heat cycles the compound may get a little harder.

    • @lloydholt6511
      @lloydholt6511 Před 4 lety

      R Hansen he pointed out summits od measurements written in the tread area.

    • @rhansen435
      @rhansen435 Před 4 lety +1

      When you inflate them,sometimes they are not equal.Found this out racing dirt modifieds.

    • @lloydholt6511
      @lloydholt6511 Před 4 lety

      R Hansen hadn’t thought of that. Thanks.

  • @deondimicks8159
    @deondimicks8159 Před 4 lety

    M/t are better for sure

  • @firehawk5.076
    @firehawk5.076 Před 3 lety

    The Hoosier passes looked better

  • @treetop9703
    @treetop9703 Před 4 lety +1

    M/t is way better

  • @jeremyeubanks2387
    @jeremyeubanks2387 Před 4 lety

    Off gate ... its clear the m/t is better.. your car looked the best it had in a while