Buying a cheap grader
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2023
- Buying a 1969 Austin Western all wheel drive grader, demonstrating how it operates, installing a new brake master cylinder, then grading some 4" minus gravel roads with it.
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I love that rotation mechanism with the two cylinders acting on a crankshaft, That's pretty ingenious 👍
yeah its like a steamengine,never seen that before on a turntable,oldtimers were smart
I think the development of hydraulic motors was still in it's infancy back in 69'. It is amazing how far equipment technology has progressed in my lifetime. But you are right, I have not seen two hydraulic cylinders configured like that to develop high torque rotational movement. The valving must be interesting.
Just goes to show that our parents and grandparents knew what they were doing 😂😂
I had to rewind that part so many times, incredible engineering what a machine
Yes that was cool how smooth it worked
"Andrew buys something else to make roads in the woods" is becoming some of my favorite content.
That’s a good machine seeing it’s over 50 years old, having the necessary features and in working order! Nice addition to the fleet! 👍
"Detroit diesel", and where is now Detroit? Trump's "let's make America great again" don't seem so stupid, yes?)
Hello from Russia, we aren't evil😊
@koss2022 Not every American thinks Russia is evil! I don't! Unfortunately, the woke leftists are brainwashing our citizens into thinking so. Take care friend. I wish our countries would become allies instead of pitting against each other.
@@koss2022 .Lots of ordinary working folk do know what is going on , it's not the people that are the problem, those in high positions of power and control are the ones causing the conflict and upheaval in many countries around world .
@@koss2022Hello from Midwest USA. Many know and understand Russia isn’t an enemy. Those that have stolen the power are destroying our way of life. People are waking up as our money is failing. The whole system is on life support. My family is from Russia they escaped the Bolsheviks. Part of me is thinking going back might be a good idea. Who knows though.
@@maxjones9139 I'd say bad idea. Friends in Russia are fleeing as fast as they can for America or other places. I think we're all screwed 😄
You KNOW that they made equipment much better back in 1969 than anything made today .... Andrew works his magic to keep that tough machinery working. One of the best channels to watch !! Thanks again Andrew !!
Joe
What?@@HannahRoot55
It's pretty obvious this was the next logical purchase. Good stuff man, as always.
Purchase (grade) - A+
That "Bronco" is made of Tin Foil
Probably three years ago.
the old broncos r so badass@@msimpson607
وه وه@@atomicwedgie8176
Austin Western was a big innovator in the construction industry and one of the early users of hydraulics. Using two cylinders to turn the table instead of a hydraulic motor was very clever. Too bad they were sold then went out of business.
Saturday morning and Andrew delivered, can't get any better. I've been lurking since the container castle build rarely ever commenting but it is crazy how far Andrew went just doing his thing and living his way.
Next up: "Grading a mountain because it's too high"
Soo after seeing that weld job, maybe Andrew reads this (I am a commercial welder)...
You should just wirebrush the paint off the metal, then tack it on the inside, then take an angle grinder, grind a V groove about 60% depth to still have some material and fracture on fracture contact for alignment. Fill the groove then do the same from the other side, completely delete the crack with the grinder, fill and finish. Better than factory :)
Hello, would you know a video example of the welding job you mentioned? At least of similar concept? Its hard to visualize with english not being my native language.
watch?v=OWG1f5e7HEU@@avaiboot However, this is almost a master class on welding badly cast Aluminium. The technique is basically the same though.
I've found this episode twice as fun as normal. I'm grading road to my village myself and with equipment I've welded myself. Now I regret not buying such a greader as Andrew did :) it's powerful!
This guy has been producing legendary content since I first saw him in 2019, now he's getting the recognition that's deserved
True. Some of the best video here. Plus he has some very cool equipment.
I wish people like *Musti1* would get that as well. Way too few Subs there for that Quality Content!!!
We watch it, we love it but most people don't because it's work. Most people don't wanna work, much less watch people work!
@@germantrader10 i found the guy sucked into the propaganda machine.
@@beakittelscherz5419😊
I was very surprised that Andrew does not yet have a grader in his fleet with the amount of road construction. 🤷♂️👍It will be interesting during the repair...
Andrew, I wish I had had your ambition,when I was younger. I am truely impressed with your "go get um" attitude. you seem to be able to fix anything. At 84,I can't start over,but I can watch you accomplish your dreams. Keep up the good works.
Thank you.
Andrew is always great at doing stuff. Also I would like to complement that older guy driving the grader. He sure had experience and confidence working with that machine.
I think he popped up on the 988 video as well, seems super experienced and level headed. I love having worksite veterans like that around, even if they can't haul butt all day like younger guys they have that perspective that can guide all us to do a better job, more quickly; with what we have at hand and that's the one tool you need most but can't buy at any shop or snap on catalog.
He probably worked for the state grading everything summer and winter he's probably got decades of experience
@@Mississippi87 them retired state workers are amazing to have around. always tons of experience from being worked day after day for decades
I have to admit, I've learned more about heavy machinery and more importantly, how to operate it from watching these videos. AC's method of teaching is subtle but effective. Simply watching him work is somehow fascinating and he seems to be a natural at everything he does. As an added bonus you get to see repairs and the engineering behind these beasts of machines. I've been watching AC's videos for years and love and appreciate every one of them! A+ sir!
Spencer’s
Highest production values of any CZcamsr I watch... From the editing to camera work to the music to the drone work to the spectacular scenery of the Hudson Valley, it all comes together to create the most visually and audio appealing product in the category.
Good post @dva....
You forgot the other stars Cody and Blue !
22nd century 'Hudson Valley School' iykyk
Cuz needs to take that 360 degree camera and throw it off that cliff at the top of his hill!
Hi Andrew, your job is already on another level, and those of us who have seen you for years value that. You have progressed a lot! It's excellent your equipment and experience for different works. Thank you very much for your videos!
Looks like a great buy. I spent some time running a Cat 12G back in the late 70s. Such a great tool for roads, building pads, you name it.
Your videos are so awesome, Andrew. My grandpa ran a grader in the 1940s and 1950s in the south, and just by watching this I now understand the COMPLEXITY of these machines! They adjust in SO many ways. Very cool. Your roads are headed toward perfection, man!
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The most important thing you need for that grader is a new set of cutting edges and end bits. And don’t forget new bolts and nuts for them, those are probably so old you’ll break most of them. A better bet for top coat on your road will be asphalt regains. It packs in really tight, and when it gets warmer, it’ll get even better.
In my neck of the woods it is the most expensive aggregate to buy...$25/ton!
It's too bad he can't get that crusher of his to do at least 3" minus.
How long will tires hold up ?
@@hex0rz1how much is dirt or gravel a ton around you? city slicker here so i’m only used to home depot 60lb bag prices lol
For that huge road, asphalt milling wouldn't be feasible. It would take around a thousand truck loads to do the whole thing. Twice that if you are running heavy equipment on it. The first steel track vehicle would destroy it.
The bolt may have sheared but the weld held, nice work.
I love how Andrew is so impressed by things working as they should
I watch him a lot too and he’s very nice guy about machines
I remember working with a very similar grader on roads construction way back in the 80s it's great to see one still doing a great job, you definitely got a bargain with this one Andrew.
Nothing like a Andrew camarata video on a Friday evening
It's almost as good as a new season of Better call Saul lol
Saturday morning in Australia
Wish I'd had some notice. I would have ordered pizza!
Hear hear!!
Your dad looks like he is having a lot of fun, keep up the good work really like seeing pops having fun
One thing about a grader, you will find every big rock embedded in the road. Once you get the first few passes up and down the road, you will have a really nice road. With your crusher you should be able to make finer gravel to spread on the road for a top coat.
We watched this last night and my husband had a suggestion for a couple of the areas that are narrow and drop down steeply on the outside ... BANK the driveway like they do at raceways. That way, even if a vehicle slides a bit on snow/ice, it won't go off the edge 🙂
Delighted to see that your channel has grown to 1.3m subscribers. Always amazed by the equipment you purchase and the scope of your projects! This grader is a good acquisition! Wishing you continued success Andrew.
god that 6x6 drive is the way to go . that machine just digs in and pulls its self right up the road under load .this grader is going to be one of your best buys and you will use it all the time. money well spent . way to go andrew. i just love the way you let dad play a little to. you are not a hog with your toys. you are a good boy. god bless you and your family andrew.
His dad wasn't playing with it.
hay nick get a life fool , just a little humor. no one said any thing about his dads abilities to run heavy equipment. you would not know how to put the key in and start it. you do know how to use your big mouth about some thing you know nothing about.
Now you're able to edge and trim the roads so they are looking in a finished condition. In the early days I was wishing that you had a grader, even a simpler one that would even out some of the bumps of the dirt and first rocks that you applied. The first roads that you put in cutting down through the raw dirt, and in the wintertime too, made it an effort to get the proper grade but with just enough slant for rain run-off. Remembering the times when you brought in a travel trailer or utility trailer and the traversing the grounds were interesting to say the least. It was nice and fun to watch you improve some of the features of the machine while also finding out that you had a dirty gem there instead of something you had to take back. A little spit and polish would seem to be in order here so you can be proud. Another fine addition to your fleet of equipment.
And you seemed impressed by the Bronco that your friend drove on some of your roads. For you to make a statement like "maybe I'll get one of these" means a lot coming from you about new vehicles! I like them too since I've seen them on another channel by someone else in UTAH.
The crown in the middle of the road to improve runoff/drainage is nice to.
I've always appreciated your ability to fix your equipment. I was an operating engineer (union tractor driver) but our mechanic kept tractors running. You do your own repairs and that is commendable.
These roads you are building are turning into solid and smooth ways of transport. Looking really good!
Anyone who grew up on a gravel road knows these goofy machines. I think you found a hell of a purchase there. That Detroit engine will outlive all of us and have rebuild parts still available in 2085. Some wheels, a paint job, it's a new machine.
I think that it's great that Cody and Blue respect the big machines, but they aren't afraid.
I'm amazed at all your toys. Love watching your channel. Back in 1976, I worked for a paving company. I was learning to the equipment, when I got on motor grader the first thing I wanted to do was stand up to run it my boss yelled at me to never stand up while your using it . He said you could hit something and get thrown out of cab. Kept being you.
the Dude who Drove and Graded the road. 100% got my respect that looks so Micro adjustments all the time all the levers and all you got is an Eyeball, Feeling it out and experience. hes a real pro. Grate purchace dude keep up the awesome work and content.
I personally think this is the most interesting toy you’ve purchased Andrew. I have never seen a 6x6 Grader before. Enjoy the use & as always thanks for the content.
Our dogs Cody and DiDi got to meet Andrew's Cody and Blue this week! What great dogs they are. We were actually doing a job together and my Cody disappeared into the woods for a couple of hours while we were working. Luckily, I found him like a needle in a haystack after the job was completed. Phew!!!
Andrew is a true professional I might add, but you already knew that.
I'm in the market for a GPS tracker for my dog. I remember Andrew mentioned the ones he uses in this video. I scrubbed around to find where he mentioned it. It looks like Blue has the "tractive" on. Do you remember which one Andrew uses?
@@deschannel300 you literally read my mind. I intended to search for GPS trackers today. It did not come up with him, but thanks a lot for the recommendation! I was trying to stay calm while he was missing. GPS collar is a great investment.
You'll probably know this. If your dog runs off, leave a piece of your clothing where you last saw your dog. It may stay there till you return.
OK I was wondering if you got your dog back I almost just texted you.
@@AndrewCamarataThanks buddy. He was behind the house we were at first! His sister helped me find him. Thanks again Andrew!
Just impressive. I appreciate your willingness to operate old equipment and test its limits.
That is honestly the coolest grader I have ever seen! The mechanical front wheel driveline, crab steering main axles, front dozer blade, ripper capabilities and the blade rotation mechanism are awesome. Looks like it does a great job and I look forward to seeing you fix it up later!
❓️guess you haven't seen one with GPS on it yet.
What an absolute steal. I've been looking for a grader for a couple of years. Love that unit you picked up. Always love your show.
Hey Andrew, another great video! Just wanted to say a quick thanks for all the work you put into the content. I’m always looking forward to a new upload from you. Cheers!!!
Back in the 1960's as a young boy we lived out in the country on a gravel road with no neighbors. Every summer the local township would grade and gravel our road. I remember so well they had a red Austin Western grader and I remember watching them work cleaning out the ditches along the road with that oh so huge Grader. I also used to love watching them use their new toy at the time, which was a Gradeall.
It's an enormous machine but certainly does the job. Hope you have many happy and productive years using it. Xx
I just started learning how to weld, and honestly, I've learned so much without even realizing after watching all these years love your videos.
Sometimes I operate a grader like this one and I cannot believe how great of a bargain you found. This machine can do incredible things for a mountain road. congratulations good show
I have pined for a grader for years, I live thru Adams great ability and candor keep up the fabulous job!
Because of the rocks in your area, you should look into getting used set of rippers for it. Breaking up the bolders and hard spots that it can, leaving your other heavy equipment to take out the big stuff. It needs a service, a must. Take care of the electrical problem arround the starter , fuel fliters, water in fuel tank ,check glow plugs and clean the injectors if you have the time for easier starts with winter arround the corner. Notice one of the tires looks low. Looks like you got a great deal for a awd.
Geez, you're not gonna make many friends telling Camarta what to do. Loads of his fans class him as the authority.
@@Stoff1Hi, you taking the piss? I hope so! Or is it something that only the Brits do?
Cold and rainy night and a video from Andrew! ❤ Thanks, Andrew!
This is fantastic. I’ve got a 1956, same Detroit diesel that’s going to do a lot of work for me in the spring. I don’t have any real experience grading roads, but just while learning I’ve found these old Austin Westerns to be absolutely charming. Appreciate the video.
Thanks
That was a fun video to watch thank you Andrew.
If you want a good flat, smooth road then you just can't beat a grader. It is the only machine for the job. I'm looking forward to getting the right hand drive shaft back in my little Alis Chalmers D grader and getting back to work with it.
If you angle the blade as far as you can and try for full contact, that length is the the length of cut from front to back. That is what flattens out a washboards and cuts somewhat easier at times. Give it a try. Hope you make an epic video of the grader makeover with paint and sandblasting, etc. Great video with your dad (I assume that's your dad)
Thanks for the tip, still learning that machine. That is not my dad.
I agree , angled like you described stabilizes the blade and takes sway and hop out of it .
@@AndrewCamarata That's his Friend Dave.
Dave's not here....man 😊
@AndrewCamarata also steering the rear tires a hair towards the side you're removing material from helps counter the sideways push the machine gets from the blade.
Austin Western Super 200, I operated a 1973 model which appears very similar to yours except for a few subtle changes to the cab. They were solid machines and in many respects way ahead of their time ,The all wheel drive , rear steering and full 360 degree circle rotation were advanced for that time. Once you get used to using the circle shift you can grade steep side slopes to the side of the machine .I'm sure this is going to be a good addition to your fleet.
Thank you. Impressive you know what it is.
Check the chain , and box oils...
Keep your eye on rear 4 tires...air up correctly and sized identical...
Diffs need oils renewed , u joints etc....
Nice gizmo , thats for sure
I was thinking, "Gallion" but something just didn't look right. Thanks for confirming the manufacturer. You don't usually see Detroit engines in motor graders. I can't remember if Terex ever made a grader but they used Detroits in many of their early machines.
Thanks for confirming Austin Western. A rare brand. Most I have seen had single rear wheels, not tandem.
The tandem is way better I think for keeping grade over bumps
Congratulations Andrew! This was actually something you needed. Good job!
It’s a nice looking old machine. Not many like it are still in that good of shape. Remember not to crank hard turns with the diffs locked ✌️
It s like a new old toy for Andrew :) Each time he buys somthing new his smile and enthusiasm is all over the place :) Keep it up. 🎉
wow what a job I am impressed I didn't think a roller really did that good a job but the angle you had it on this time you could really see real good on what it was doing, and I guess I was wrong in another comment I made to you when I said that you hired a old-Pro with a lot of experience. I heard you telling him how to do different things you have definitely learn your way around machinery since the old days when you was a kid in the backyard buying your first machine. Man you have come a long ways with equipment and it's quite awesome to see you can't even explain how much I appreciate your videos. I look so much forward to seeing them
Nice aquisition, Andrew. I would like to see you sandblast the grader and paint it. It would really look great with a fresh paint job!
Rob Burns
You want the cutting side of the blade close as possible on the slide so it don't kick you sideways like that having it sticking out that far puts alot more stress on everything too
First i noticed that running your back wheels on the pile you graded off, you have the rear end height alternating constantly unpredictably.
Geez, you're not gonna make many friends telling Camarta what to do. Loads of his fans class him as the authority.
Lovely grader, very well equiped for a 1969 machine! I'm agree with you, a dozer does awesome job, but for the finishing job, a grader is unrivaled. 👷♂🛠🚧👍
Nice field repair...factory! Looking forward to the next installment on the grader..pray all are well.
thank you for your work on filming, editing and sharing this. it was a fun watch! keep up the good work!
Seems like everything works on this machine! They were *SO COMMON* on job sites when I was a kid in the 50's, made me wonder where they went to and you have just the spot for its use! Have fun & stay safe! *I'm sure that OPERATOR can confirm what I said* !
It made quick work on the road. Not a bad deal for 7k.
Just some TLC, tweak a few things and it's golden.
Liked the drone shots at the start and up the mountain.
That shot at the end was a Autumn postcard.
Thanks Andrew
Great video Andrew, this grader will help a lot to make the roads more safer.
Top notch video. Thank you.
Your attention to detail is a lesson not just for my kids, but for me as well.
One request: please include more high flying drone footage. Seeing that land reminds me of The Last of the Mohicans... the next book for my kids
Amazing find for what you paid for it. Great addition to the fleet. We have one of the new Broncos, and I can confirm they are a beast.
If you watch Matt's off road recovery one of his crew have a new bronco with some upgrades.👍
Andrew nice grader, the road looks very smooth now…you keep outdoing your previous accomplishment's !
As usual AWESOME CONTENT !!
Love your collection of cool equipment, you should put your company name on all your equipment. Like your dump trucks, can't wait to see what you come up with next !
Sweet rig! You always find the coolest equipment.
Finally you bought a grader and made a video about.. I waited so long for this to happen ! love how you prepare driveways ! great video ! ..greetings from Germany mate !
It's an awesome day when Andrew put up a new video... Thank you Andrew !!!! The road looks good... !!! The new roller looks like a jewel... That Bronco was nice,,,
Dave
Do I know you ???@@HannahRoot55
A power-wash, service, and a paint job will turn this into an awesome piece of kit - an AC Project in the making - fantastic - some great vids to come!
Your a cleaner ?? 🤔
Good to see Dave in a video. Excited to see his new land develop
I completely flinched when that clog cleared from the brake line. Another great video!
That appears to be a very capable grader with the powered front wheels and Steerable rear end. Might be a perfect tool to make the place more accessible during the winter too.
As for my thoughts on buying one of those Broncos, After following you from early on with somewhat limited and aged equipment, It makes me feel good when you make it to a point where you can get some better stuff too. The Jetski, Snowmobile, and UTV was really nice to see as you grow the channel and business.
Good buy, Andrew. Brake fluid is very good for removing paint.
You sir, have found a diamond in the rough, that is a sweet running ole grader. Thanks for the video, enjoyed watching.
You deserve everything you got man. Good job, keep living your dreams.
Soooo good to see you finally getting a grader! I’d given up on you!😊the blade is too far extended and every time you hit a rock it shifts the machine because of the leverage. You guys just need more practice 😊You’re gonna have to do at least 10 sweeps to spread the gravel out evenly before you start rolling it. It looks like it’s wet enough to compact well, but you’ll need to really keep grading it quite a bit to get it smooth.
You're going to need some Class 5 on top of your rock to smooth out the road. The larger rock makes a good road bed but you need smaller rock to get a smooth road surface. 3/4 minus works really well when a 3-5" layer is put down to top of your base. That old grader is cool. Love that vintage equipment.
Yeah I was gonna say no way that all that loose rock is making the road smoother if anything it’s making it rougher.
You're not grasping the issue here.
Really???@@jamesofallthings3684
Great and interesting video, looking forward to seeing the service and painting videos. Thank you
Can't wait to see your new Ford Bronco!!! Especially, all the bells and whistles you are going to add to it. Great video Andrew! Awesome channel!
Love the grader! A must piece of equipment in your arsenal. The Bronco would be great because you like making repairs and fixing brand new broken stuff.
Benson
I'm thinking I'm not alone but it would be great to see you restored this tractor back to looking new again, with sand blasting and painting it, knowing it would take a few shows it would be worth it to me or others my friend, , I hope you do it so we all can see the work being done Andrew 👍✌️, God bless ya
Geez, you're not gonna make many friends telling Camarta what to do. Loads of his fans class him as the authority.
Ha that’s what you needed for your any roads as you can see it to sponge the low spots in the high spots all by itself so congratulations on your new purchase. I hope you keep it and I’ll be at your number one machine they make you good money they keep going with while you’re all your projects. Do you want a great job and I’m glad that you bought the older machine that can handle rough rough. Terrain.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
Nice job. Beautiful trees. Love seeing the dogs❤❤❤❤❤
Can’t wait for you to service it! I thought for sure you’d be doing it in this episode. You usually do a service before you use something but it was in such good shape . all right thanks
Jenning
Some of the best content on CZcams. Great video and way to troubleshoot and get that grader in good shape. Can’t wait to see the hot water pressure washer clean that up!
Yup, and the best part is no ads!😊
Always good day when new piece of equipment comes on channel. It’s fun to watch the process of how he gets it up to his standards.
Ken 😅
What a great price! For a grader. Loved the unit you picked up. Your show is always great.
Turner
I had my driveway paved last summer in upstate NY, and the crew brought a 1950's Galion. The operator did it all by eye, everything manual and it's exactly perfect. When I asked about the machine, he said the company had purchased newer graders, but he never liked them, so he keeps this one in service. Amazing what an experienced operator can do with a well built machine.
That is cool.
When Andrew says he is buying something we instantly know it will be one great video!
Love the Bronco 👍🏻🇮🇪 thanks for sharing Andrew.
Hey Andrew big fan congrads on the grader I’ve been a mechanic for over forty years and it reminds me when I worked for a large landscaper and he actually had one of the first graders made serial number was 009 and at that time there was no hydraulic. Only on the power steering that was your only hydraulics on it. The rest was gear driven in. It had a electric starter to start the pony motor that would start the diesel When you operated the blade and it came to the stop the handle would kick back hard like it would break your wrist. Only advise spray all nuts and bolts before removing and heat is your best friend. Love your videos and your a amazing guy and a big inspiration for all young men and women 👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Geez, you're not gonna make many friends telling Camarta what to do. Loads of his fans class him as the authority.
so great to see a video of yours pop up instead of all the bullcrap going on in the world. thanks Andrew as always
not his dad
Heck, I surprised Andrew did not turn on the cab fan and say hey it’s even got air conditioning😂. Awesome video. ❤
Love this latest addition to the fleet. Buying this grader for $7500 with most everything working on it was a major score. It is sure to come in handy on the mountain, or any job you take it to. One of my fondest memories of childhood was standing out at the head of our driveway with my younger brother, watching the county road grader run up and down the gravel road we lived on (and getting the driver to wave back to us).
I was watching depressing world news today, wanted to be cheered up , so i came to Andrews channel, he is always happy and up beat, he could make watching grass grow interesting, thanks Andrew, Lewis
I worked on several of these in the 70s I’m glad to see them still running. One job I pulled the trans and repaired it. Very interesting way of separating this unit to get trans out.
Hey cutie 🥰
I'm watching the right rear tires running over the piles of rocks that the blade is leaving. It's been my experience that if you'd shift your blade to right where you're not traveling over piles, you'd get better results.
Was gonna make the same comment and, additionally, that the grader should always be driven straight down the middle of the road, where it is most level, not on one side and then the other side of the road, because that tilts the machine towards that side.
So, always drive the grader straight down the middle of the road, and move the blade (not the grader) to one side or the other of the road, making sure that one never has the blade leaving the material where the wheels will be running.
If you use the front blade to knock down most of the high spots that should help reduce the load on the center blade and loosen up material so it's easier for it to do the fine grading adjustment instead of plowing with it
Geez, you're not gonna make many friends telling Camarta what to do. Loads of his fans class him as the authority.
That was a beautiful truck that hauled the grader I’d love to have that 😊thanks for sharing
Great video Andrew,
Take care, all the best, and God bless
You are truly Beginners, I spent 30 years on a Finish Blade, first you have to get both ends of the blade in the dirt, second you need to square your blade so all of your rear tires are on the blading surface, dont run your tires on the berm, because the tractor will go up and down as you blade the road, its most important to generate a berm that way you can roll it back and forth until you get the surface you want, after you get the surface you want and you still have a berm, you can loose the berm on the crown or the high side of a turn
Yes, that was both of our first times operating that. It did do what I wanted it to do though.