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Joe and Smithy are joined by Chris MD & Flav this week on Saturday Social. Ahead of this weekend’s North London Derby, we get the guests to pick a combined XI of the two clubs. Watch to find out how many Spurs players made the team.
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How can the combined 11 be judged on “Career” when more than half of this Arsenal team just started to play at the senior level, make it make sense.
Trust me
True ! Change the title if they judge on career achievement😅..noob spurs
Because so many players were out, & it's harder to judge quality on someone you've only seen fit a year vs 5
Its the only way a bias spurs host can get any players on the board
And a few of them have more trophies than tottenham since 2009
It's a bit weird that for Ramsdale/Lloris they say Ramsdale has been better lately, but it's not based on form so Lloris gets it. But then they put Oli Skipp in when all he has is recent form and don't even mention that rule.
Well it’s either hojberg or skipp in it.
Think they just allowed this to happen for views.. and comments..
@@alialtun289 Haha, yep. And it worked!
@@alialtun289 well. I stop watching at first min when I saw this comment lol
Skipp was poty for norwich last season. You can see how much norwoch miss skipp this season
"Emerson Royal is at the start of his career..." Literally the same age as Tomiyasu
Funny he brings that up when 3/4 of arsenal's players are at the start of their careers. The bias is showing in this one
As in he just signed for Tottenham not as in hes young
@@HD-hd1hd2hd3 tomiyasu has also just signed for arsenal
he wasn’t arguing that tomiyasu isn’t better than emerson. he was just trying to give some leniency as to why emerson’s been poor.
Tomiyasu is so much better. Wish we'd got him at Spurs
Considering we have an average squad age of 24 more often than not. Weird that we are doing this based on career. How can you compare a 20 year olds career to a 30 year olds when in current form the 20 year olds are severely outplaying their whole squad? Very strange
And then you wake up to reality and look at the stats and the table
@@massiveastronomer1066 ye three of our most reliable players out injured in the youngest squad in England and having to replace them with children
I think you want to phrase this the other way around
For real, other than Kane, Son and maybe Højberg I’m struggling
@@urboyliiban not even Kane at this moment, I’d say son, skipp, possibly Romero but not seen enough of him.
@@Fredh11 no Spurs player will get into Arsenal back 5
@@FreddyKru3ger your defence is decent but Romero 100% gets in your back 5 and dier has a decent season so debatable
Exactly
Lloris was winning world cups when Ramsdale was getting relegated. RVP was scoring 30 in a season when Mbappe was just a child. It doesn't matter what he did 3 years ago when the game is played on Sunday
facts
Preach 🤣🤣
You're not wrong but lloris is still better than ramsdale. A purple patch isn't the same as a consistent world class keeper
They picked it as in their career as a whole, lloris had the highest expected goal save since the 2018/19 season higher than alison and ederson in that time ramsdale was conceding loads for Bournemouth and Sheff Utd
@@Rob-oo7qx then Aubameyang gets in
If they don't go based on form then this is a very difficult conversation. How do you compare players who are at the start of there careers with players who have played for 10 years
NO NATIONAL TEAM COACH PICKS A TEAM BASED ON CAREER ACHIEVEMENTS AND FORGETS CURRENT FORM. if that was the case the entire 11 should be Tottenham since arsenal has youngsters who are just starting out
Gareth Southgate does when he picks Henderson over Ward-Prowse
@@subtotheseagull5492 not relevant to what I said
What has the entire spurs team won apart from lloris? Most of the fa/sheild winning squad is there which is already more than what spurs have won this millenia
Sven goran Eriksson
The fact that they its not based off current performance’s and overall careers, there’s no competition, cause most of Arsenal’s teams is young and have little experience, whereas Tottenham’s team is filled with players that have years of experience so this can’t even be a debate anymore….
Years of experience winning nothing.
@@edoggsbiggestfan5878 😂😂😂 true for Tottenham, but look at how the pickings started.
Hugo was chosen because he has had a better overall career then Ramsdale (younger). Then they pick Tomi even though they’ve never heard of the guy before this season???
Its like the aim is to be inconsistent…
@@pontshomokoena8780 stats wise Hugo is having a better season than ramsdale. He’s so underrated
@@finlaykelly2189 ramsdale literally has a better save percentage and more clean sheets and better distribution but...
Yet most of the Tottenham players, apart from Kane and Son, have not reached the level of most of these Arsenal players on a consistent basis
Gabriel is the best centre back out the lot, just got called up for brazil squad and has had 8 clean sheets in 17 apps and he doesn’t get in. That’s poor.
and Romero is a regular starter for Argentina who won the copa america last year lol?
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza k
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza and yet they said not on form but Skipp gets in at DM and he literally tried to get hoberg over a player (ESR) who has scored more goals than any other player in tottenham. So dumb to not do it on ability/form than experience bevause most their players are older such a dumb video only kane and son would make it in 433 based on form this season
@@GokuPlaysUK Look at the competition for his position marquinhos, thiago silva and militao don’t try it who is fred competing with in the mf?
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza Look at argentinas defenders 😂 behave, romero was good in italy but thus far hasn’t shown to be near gabriel
Lloris and Ramsdale kept the same number of clean sheets in the league last year. Ramsdale played most of that year in a Sheffield United team that got relegated.
Makes no sense to pick on overall player stats because you would be picking the same players every combined 11. Should’ve picked by form
Innit it’s stupid, whenever a team r similar level, it should be on the season as a whole not on paper or the last few games🤦🏾♂️
Disagree
Disagree, everyone has different opinions. If they picked based on form it would have been less of a debate
The only thing that would probably be different would be the keeper
Tomiyasu shouldn't have even been a surprise, he was great for Bologna and the inverted fullback role he played for them was exactly what Arteta wanted so it was also a perfect fit.
comparing bologna to the pl is like saying he was great in sunday league
@@GokuPlaysUK Difference is he performs well in the PL unlike that useless spuds rb
How many people in the UK do you think regularly watch Bologna play?
@Ben Onofrio You think a Club with an in house Stats company signed a player without knowing his position despite the fact he actually fits the coaches vision of the role like a glove? Are you drunk??
@@GeniusLad32 Aaron Hickey’s family (the young Glaswegian LB)
It is disrespectful to say how many Arsenal players will get into the Spurs XI it should be how many Spurs players will get into Arsenal XI
Check the ladder pls
@@ebo2o215 facts these deluded arsenal fans are stuck in the 2000s
@@harrydipple2251 how is spurrrrrrz better than ARSENAL?
@@ebo2o215 Ladder down to the basement? (spurs you belong there)
@@rowgctv the league table, you know, the one that matters
I can’t believe what I’ve just watched, Lloris over Ramsdale? Romero over Gabriel? Moura over Saka? Skipp is only in coz Xhaka is so bad. Smith-Rowe has been The highest performing midfielder out of both of these teams! Wow!
Delusional isn’t even the word!
Yeah... I'm a neutral but they just want it to look closer than it really is... For the show :/
xhaka isnt bad .he just gets red cuz of his reputation. he adds more to the team than he takes away from it.
@@BeastBoy69631 no he takes more then he adds thats why he is bad. Cuz imo he is a good player just not for the PL.
I would only put kane and son inside the combine 11. The other spurs players are crap.
You cannot have just said ramsdale and Gabriel are better than lloris and Gabriel. You have tk see a doctor pal
Gabriel is levels… that’s criminal how he isn’t in the team
By the way Chris you bottled it
He really did. You'd have had no idea he was an Arsenal fan the way he was talking. Gabriel is our best centre back.
I think Gabriel and Dier are better than the other two defenders they chose... but just for this season! Dier and Gabriel have been quality!
To be fair he is worse and romero is combative like Gabriel
Gabriel is better than all of them cbs mentioned
Show these guys don’t watch football
That dude in the white jacket is an absolute melt!
He is just has disastrous ball knowledge
Look how red his ears are, he definitely doesn't believe his own nonsense.
Classic spurs fan, he's an absolute mug.
He says in a years time skipp will be so good but picks lloris over ramers as he’s won the world up 🥴
@@arroncolquhoun3238 Lloris literally is better than ramsdale
My man wants Lucas Mora because of a single game almost... pop Elneny in there then, he's scored more goals vs barcelona than everyone else i think
Ramsdale: it’s not about the form Lloris is better
Skipp: he has been so consistent this season
🤷🏻♂️
this is ramsdales first time showing any potential there’s a reason everyone including arsenal fans were hating the signing skipp has showed promise from last season and he walks into arsenals midfield ahead of partey and xhaka who have no brain
@@harrydipple2251 did skipp beat France ? Bet he didn’t. But Xhaka did just rewatch the match highlight he had two very good assists if I remember correctly
@@wongedward3279 that’s fantastic but i don’t see him doing anything for arsenal but make mistakes and get red cards
@@harrydipple2251 that’s fair but believe or not we need xhaka unitl we get someone in this window and I think striker is more of a priority
This Tottenham fan keeps going on about the trophy’s these players have won yet none off them have ever won anything at Spurs🤣
He can also go on about relegation and he will still win. Ramsdale been relegated
@@xXSuperman117 lloris has been at Tottenham for 10 years and all he has won with them is an Audi cup😭
@@xXSuperman117 how many times have spurs been relegated, how many times have arsenal been relegated? How many silverwares have spurs "golden era" won, how many have arsenal won in the last 6 years? Even based on form arsenal are much better than spurs
@@Chirag_Arikella explain why spurs always finish above arsenal?? Arsenal can’t perform against small stinky teams
@@ABMBE always???? 🤣 Arsenal have been finishing above them for 100 years or so.. spurs have been doing it for 5 years, and arsenal won more trophies than them in those 5 years.
Also leicester westham villa are small teams? Ahh i forgot how they smoked spurs.. so yeah small teams too
If trophies are the prerequisite the Kieran Tierney has won more silverware than Tottenham as a club.
Scottish prem is a farmers league so it dont mean much mate
@@iEldilo Just the FA cup alone is more than any of that squad has won for tottenham and more than most of that squad has won period.
Tell em
Dilon tell that to lewandowski
@@iEldilo Just about every league is a farmers league according to premier league fans. French league, Spanish league, German league e.t.c
This should have a bit of form... because although Ramsdale was relegated, you can't fault the teams he was a part of and how pivotal he was in their fight
Eric Dier over Ben White may be one of the worst takes Ive ever heard
Gabriel is literally the best CB out of them all lmao
I would put Gabriel over Ben White because if Gabriel wasn’t with Ben White he would be playing bad
Not true
Romero is levels above he’s just been injured
@@mizmiz4992 🤡🤡🤡
@@jacobmitchell5149 How can you possibly judge this? He hasnt played enough in the PL to make that decision. Alot of foreign CBs come in and do well for abit, then get found out.
Should be ‘how many Spurs player would get into the Arsenal XI’, maybe only Kane and Son?
Hmmmm World Cup winning captain between the sticks or twice relegated kid…. Tough one
@@SpiredRapidity twice relegated all day everyday
Literally only odegard would get into spurs squad.. thats about it
@@xXSuperman117 Saka, Tomi, White, KT, Partey, ESR, Ode, and maybe gabriel
@@xXSuperman117 Son & Kane, maybe an argument for Skipp and Lloris, that’s it.
The fact that 5 of arsenals players on this list are under 24 and their careers have only just started to ramp up despite this list being “not on current form” is incredible. If your taking current form ramsdale gets in, smith rowe gets in and so does martinelli or lacazette. Lacazette has been more influential for Arsenal this season that Kane. If you are neglecting current form TRULY then you would end up having a Tottenham team of players of previous glory who arent playing at nowhere near the same level now.
Yet spurs are playing better and will finish above you guys so explain that
@@roandehaan such a random argument u just know spurs will finish ahead. no logic mate
@@roandehaan Uhh... That's come into question now... There's a very tight race between Arsenal and Spurs for 4th place. I'm not sure it's as clear cut now as it was when you made that comment...
@@mastertrams just as confident as i was back then
Who chooses Moura over Saka??
That’s straight delusion.
Anyone who’s seen them both play there is no debate who is the better player. Regardless of experience
There is a debate to be had and Saka would come out on top. It’s not all that one-sided. Moura is a fantastic player
@@darthvadar2915 not really. He has his moments but hes not better than Saka right now
@@darthvadar2915 spurs fans still reeling off a fluke hat trick from 3 years ago. That's probably the last thing he's even done
@@darthvadar2915 Lucas Moura is more comparable to Theo Walcott when he was at Arsenal, pace with little end product.
@@darthvadar2915 what is Moura better than Saka at do you think? In which department?
Also, none of us would currently have Aubameyang in that front 3 but he’s scored more important goals for Arsenal than Lucas Moura has for Spurs, FACTS. Auba won us a trophy something Spurs don’t know anything about
Auba hasn't scored a hatrick in the champions league semi final tho...
And did they win it? No
Doesn’t mean they weren’t important goals lol
Ramsdale > Lloris currently
Saka > Kane currently
As a spurs fan I have to say how is smith Rowe not in this?
With that formation, no. Because he plays left wing for Arsenal recently and he doesn’t get ahead of Son
@@anubhavchakravarty1894 he can play CAM too
I’m a man united fan and martinelli and smith get into this team without a doubt
@@anubhavchakravarty1894 true smith Rowe beats everyone else, except son. Give him a few more years and maybe a arguement can be had. But atm son is just the better player full stop
Ur fan representing is so deluded
I looked at the starting 11 who faced chelsea this week and thought which of their starting 11 would I like and it was skipp and son. I wouldn't touch the rest and romero over magalhaes I can't compute
When I saw no Gabriel I had to end the video. He’s genuinely in for a shout as the premier leagues best centre backs never mind between Romero and bloody Eric Dier and Ben white . He’s massively clear of all of them
Word
@@fabz7647 why did you delete it
@@Obsiyeh delete what?
Spot on! I ended the video at that moment as well because it's an absolute travesty to not actually add Gabriel in there but then add someone who concedes 47 goals in the Serie A. Yes, FOURTY SEVEN goals and these sp*rs fans are worshipping him like he's the second coming of Tony Adams 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 which was the 5th best Defence in the League + He was a starter for Argentina at Copa America.. Romero won defender of the year in Serie a for a reason. Ur just biased, Dier has been spurs’ best defender this season.
Odegard vision and ability is amazing… shouldn’t have been a question 🤨
With amazing vision and ability how does he then only got 4 assist in 36 appearances
@@jakobgudmund8197 honestly if I was coaching him I would get him to be a little more aggressive. He’s always in the right spaces making the right passes… just has to take it that one step further… just look at his stint with sociadad.. unless he’s being coached in that role which would be a waste…
Skipp is just the next in the Spurs bang average midfielder production line. Huddlestone, Livermore, Mason, Pritchard, Winks, now Skipp. He'll get a 10/12m move to a low Prem/Champ side in a few years and be forgotten.
come on that's not fair, the guy has been praised by Mourinho as a future Spurs captain and Conte also rates him highly.
to say that he's bang avg is a massive disservice, particularly as he and Jude can become the future of English football midfield
Omg that’s so accurate and let me guess prolly a move to West Brom or Swansea
@@tarakvaakil8553 don’t forget that Skipp is the same age as Declan Rice
@@Colt-eq1vm couple of years younger actually
@@tarakvaakil8553 around the same age ish
Amazing to see Flav on here! Up the slugs.
What do you do with the magnets after the episodes. I would love to have any
Ramsdale
Tomi White Gabriel Tierney
Partey Hojbjerg
Odegaard
Saka Kane Son
Reguilon is probably the most hard done by, but Tierney has been immense for two seasons. Spurs didn’t get their manager sacked this season because they have great players all over the pitch. They’re in need of a rebuild. Whereas Arsenal are coming close to finishing a rebuild.
Martinelli smith rowe moura
For
Kane. Hjoberg. Odergaad
But they still lost to Nott forest after splashing the most cash what a joke
That's my team
@@iEldilo They played a second string vs Notts Forest. Spurs lost to Mura. A team founded in 2012.
@@redlavish7027 Odegaard is better than Moura.
I actually don't understand why people put Romero over Gabriel. The Brazilian is miles clear.
🤦♀️
Lost
Messi wanted Romero at Barca before we bought him, won serie a defender of the year and the copa America but let’s pretend he’s better
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza none of that is remotely relevant in the premier league
Romero is better than Gabriel in tackles and aerial duels won
Ramsdale
Tomiyasu White Gabriel Tierney
Hojberg Partey
Saka Odegaard Son
Kane
Ndombele instead of hojberg
The better question is, which Spurs players would get in the Arsenal XI?
Maybe Lloris, maybe Son, probably Kane, no one else.
Man said Dier is the best defender of the lot 🤣
Delusion is real
Says a lot about their team quality
I would like to see Dier man handle Antonio and go toe to toe with Mbappe and Neymar like Gabriel has done and kept Salah Quiet in that 4-0 defeat to Liverpool
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It shows these guys don’t watch football
"How many Spurs players would get onto the Arsenal bench" - corrected for you.
Ridiculous to do it off of entire careers when Arsenal have such a young team. There isnt many spurs players that get into Arsenals 11 with form. Annoying that Chris didnt argue for Ramsdale more.
Would love this to be done after the season
Ramsdale Gabriel and Bentacur In.
Lloris Romero and Skipp Out.
How do you say Loris based on his career yet he is like twice the age of Ramsedale. Man said he was relegated twice yet you forget he was voted the best player in all those seasons he was relegated in crap teams. And the world cup Loris lifted isn't at Spurs for goodness sake it's with an AMAZING France squad.
Agree French team have like A, B even C squad to play in world cup.
Even Eduard Mendy is miles better than Lloris.
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 not miles can’t even save a cross from masuaku lloris is fourth best in the prem with ederson de gea and allison above him
@@harrydipple2251 One tiny error vs many errors of Lloris. Take your pick.
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 not exactly tiny is it
I don't think it's fair to compare Ramsdale to Lloris. Personally I think Ramsdale is better now that he's playing in a better team so that makes him better than Lloris. He relegated with teams that are meant to be relegated and always got player of the season. Lloris plays for Tottenham Hotspur you can't compare that team to Brentford or Sheffield.
One of them has won a World Cup
@@scotty212 when Ramsdale was probably 12 years old I guess. Really? So you'll compare Ramsdale to Lloris based on world cup?. Lol 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
@@scotty212 it’s unfair to build this team on careers. The Arsenal squad is so young and majority of the Tottenham team are experienced, older players in their peaks
@@scotty212 if it's based on career, then Tottenham should be compared to the likes of Manchester city, Manchester United, Liverpool and the rest. 90% of arsenal squad are 23yrs and below so this comparison is absolutely rubbish then.
@Jakob B my god how thick do you have to be 😂 just winning the World Cup by being around the team isn’t the same as being the #1 choice keeper being instrumental to the team. BUT Romero isn’t established so yes, he could be, right now I’d say definitely not.
watching this in May of this year is wild.
The moment I heard "on form its Ramsdale but overall, its going to be Lloris" around the 2nd minute mark, I knew they won't get the best combined XI. I mean all Arsenal players are basically in their early 20s whereas Tottenham has a much much older squad. Yes Lloris was a part of the WC winning team but did they win the WC because of Lloris? I mean have you seen the French team? Event their B team could win the WC, there are that good. Arsenal are basically in the Top 4 because of Ramsdale. Every game he makes an unbelievable save. And I May ask, what has Kane or Son won so far? Nothing! I believe Kane and Son deserve to be in there but that is precisely my point. Leaving out Ramsdale is Criminal!
Also, Gabriel has to be in there. Take out Ben White if you absolutely have to but Gabriel has been an absolute Rock for us!
Out of the 150k views so far, this video has only 4k likes. I bet 90% of the people stopped watching the video as soon as they started the Ramsdale-Lloris debate
Ramsdale is a bottom half premier league goalkeeper, relegated twice which says it all. He’s had a good season no doubt like hundreds of other football players have before him, until form drops and they go back to their actual level. The fact people are comparing him to lloris is just disrespectful, one of the to 3 premier league goalkeepers over the past 10 years.
Literally.
I read the comments, saw Gabriel wasn’t in the 11 and just stopped watching
@@jabbz123 I think the answer is simple. If Ramsdale and Lloris were in the same team, who would you play?
And as for his "twice-relegated goalkeeper" title, people usually do not get how difficult it is for a Goalie to be a first choice in the PL. Depending on your formation, different players can play different roles, for example, Auba sometimes plays as a striker and sometimes as a winger, Chambers sometimes plays a CB and sometimes a RB, etc.
A Goalie is the only player who cannot switch positions therefore there are less opportunities at the top level.
And You can't blame 1 player for a team's relegation. It just means he was playing in a bad team. Why did Arsenal buy him if he was so bad? Del Piero, Buffon, Chiellini got relegated in 2006, were they bad players?
Ramsdale is just a kid and is already amongst the top 3 keepers in the PL. He will be a PL legend when he retires, mark my words.
@@asifameerhussain6411 I’d play lloris, once again it’s just disrespectful to mention his name next to Ramsdale 🤦♂️ top three keepers ahahah are you joking? The best he can hope for is to be playing for Arsenal or Southampton or any other mid table side
@@jabbz123 well at least He doesn't play for spurs. He ain't lift any trophy in his entire club career if He does.
How's form not taken into consideration? Surely that should he the base of the whole argument?
I noticed everything single time flav likes to live in the history which is ironic because the history of Spurs is no trophies and bottling both finals and semi finals
exactly i literally felt like punching the specs guy
@@sigmasingh849 you felt like punching a comedian?
Love to see them both back and re-assess their choices.
You have to pick the team that is in form and if you're doing that you have to pick the system that the more in form team are using...
They pick skipp based on this season but not ramsdale make it make sense
They did it so they do t make the spurs fan cry
Best XI:
Ramsdale
Tomiyasu White Gabriel Tierney
Partey Winks
Saka Odegaard Son
Kane
Winks 😂😂😂 Xhaka is even better than him
@@sharxzy8582 I thought he'd been alright this season. In hindsight of this comment section I'd swap Winks for Skipp tho
@@notoriousmigz2427 hojberg?
Smith Rowe for winks
Moura for odergaad
Martinelli for Kane
@@redlavish7027 I’m an arsenal fan but cmon Kane is going nowhere
Arsenal’s team are younger and less experienced which means they’re automatically at a disadvantage in this selection criteria. And also, you can’t pick Ramsdale on form, but you can pick Skipp on form???
Knew I was right to not bother watching and skip to the end 😂 Apparently, it's based on career, which makes Skipp's make more sense 😂
Moura isn’t a winger I’d take Saka all day on the wing but Lucas as the CAM just behind Kane is his best position (spurs fan)
Ødegård is a better CAM.
Esr odegaard have been better CAMs this season
Oh yeah I know odegard is better but I was just saying Lucas shouldn’t be spoken about for the wing
I don't think people realise that Moura is having his best season at Spurs because the rest of the team have been so inconsistent
@@ingrogies1 not as good as 8 goals or 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 back to back games good
I think this should've been titled: 'How many Spurs players (other than Kane and Son) would get into Arsenal's XI?'. The answer is 3.
Lloris is the only one I would say. Although the third midfield spot is dodgy
Actually Romero as well
@@craigglassford8533 I think Ramsdale should've been in over Lloris and Gabriel over Romero. I'm ok with Skipp, Son an Kane, but other than that no way!
@@craigglassford8533 Lloris? Lacks everything a modern goalie requires ramsdale is clear
@@craigglassford8533 no bro, Arsenal needs a ball playing gk it makes a serious difference in modern football. when it comes to set pieces and shot stopping they are both topclass but Ramsdale can play out from the back and that's huge. So no Lloris wouldn't get in Arsenal's team otherwise Leno would be good enough.
Best way to settle any debate between any two players: If both teams did a swap deal, which fanbase will be happier? Spurs fans would be over the moon with Ramsdale, Arsenal fans would be furious.
Mate we wouldn't be over the moon with Ramsdale, Lloris is a great underrated keeper and is our captain but just because Ramsdale is having a good season doesn't mean he's better than Lloris.
@@oli526 Ramsdale would give Spurs a whole new dimension tbf. Both are great shot stoppers
No we wouldn’t. Lloris does make some mistakes but the numbers are clear, over the last 3 or 4 years his goals conceded compared to the xG he should have conceded is amongst the best in the PL
Yeah lest swap a world cup winner captain with a guy thats been relegated twice. Great swap 👍
@@robertlewis7774 Just because a player won a World Cup once it doesn't make them the best player in the world in their position forever. Anyone can give a list of awful-average World Cup winners. He didn't win it for Spurs, get over yourselves
As a neutral, basing off this entire season rather than form and in a 4-3-3 I'd go Lloris (Ramsdale is extremely close though), Tomiyasu (if Doherty played earlier and didn't get hurt he'd arguably deserve a shout here), Romero, White (Grabriel is very close), Tierny (I'd say Reggy if you want a more attacking option), Hojbjerg and Partey at DM and Odegaard as an AM with Kane, Son and probably Sake off the right. Thats a damn good squad lol
Ramsdale
Gabriel, White
Tierney, Tomiyasu
Partey, Skipp
Rowe (Odegaard if Rowe doesn't count)
Saka, Son
Kane
jeez, Sunday league FC
@@tomr6712 5th and 6th in the prem. Arsenal massive progress this season and only 1-2 recruits away from have a beast starting 11.
Gabriel is criminally underrated
he's really not, bloke is a joke of a centre back.
Not a fan of either club but I watch a lot of Premier League. Here's what I think:
Ramsdale
Tomiyasu-Romero-Gabriel-Tierney
Skipp-Ødegaard
Saka-Smith Rowe-Son
Kane
Ramsdale has been brilliant this season and at the moment I would pick him over Lloris. It's really close though, I rate both keepers.
Defenders were quite easy for me to pick. Tomiyasu seems super solid, Romero is class (even though he hasn't played that much for Spurs), Gabriel is really, really good and then we have Tierney who's just really awesome two-way fullback.
Yeah, I know that midfield is a bit unbalanced and risky for real games but I had to include those players. Skipp has been the best Spurs player everytime I have watched them play. Ødegaard is quality and creates a lot of chances. ESR is one of my favourite players outside of my club, just ELECTRIC. Gotta love those black boots and low socks, too.
Wingers pretty much pick themselves. Saka is maybe a bit more pass first type of player and on the other side we have Son who has been one of the best goal scorers in the league for many years.
The striker, well there's only one choice here. Even though Kane has been quite poor this season, he can score goals, a lot of goals. He will bounce back. No Arsenal striker is even close (I think Aubameyang is finished tbh).
This NLD is going to answer some questions, whenever it actually gets played
Arsenal need the planets to align perfectly.
😂😂😂 only two players from the spuds would get into the Arsenal team Kane and Son
Tbh kane wouldn’t get in I’d have son up top with Martinelli. ESR/Odegaard, saka behind and hoijberg and partey the two man midfield and the arsenal back5 at most id include Romero
@@kimjong-un5111 no way hoijberg get into out team
@@davidheaven2961 I’m not putting xhaka this club let alone this XI… since we chose him over cazorla we ain’t seen the ucl and he’s a liability and cost us too much
I’m a Tottenham fan and that combined XI is pretty much what I’d go for, I’d probably change White for Gabriel though.
As an Arsenal fan, Gabriel is better than White imo. White was good v liverpool and recently but Gabriel has been sick since he joined.
who tf is that guy in the middle?
@@theodale6805 yeah mate obviously I can’t stand Arsenal but I appreciate good players and good teams. I do think Gabriel is your best CB so find it weird they’ve picked White over him 😂
White over gabriel is just the english bias
How dier didn’t get in is ridiculous, he’s been one of our best players this year and so consistent. None of arsenals centre backs have been consistent
It blows my mind that Skipp is in that team, for a combined team that wasn’t based on form, how is skipp a better overall player than hojberg and ESR?
As a Gooner there's only 2 Spurs players I'd have in our team- Son and Kane. I'd get a decent partner for Partey elsewhere 😁
I wouldn't trust this lot to pick players for an under 8s game
Once Vlahovic comes literally only Son gets into Arsenal’s XI
He doesn't even want arsenal.. but he's club wants to sell for money that's only reason you're linked 🤣🤣
Harry>>>>
Romero>>>Ben White
Lloris>>>>Ramsdale
Son>>>>whoever ur LW is
Moura>>>>whoever ur RW is
Skipp>>>>Partey
I would argue Regui is better than ur LB also
@@ahaanb2108 Moura saka lmao good one. Reguilon is a waste of a player in your lb position. only argument that has any validity is son over martinelli... still a close call.
@@ahaanb2108 bang on.
@@ahaanb2108 both martinelli and aubameyang have the same amount of goals as Kane....
Lloris, Tomiyasu Dier Romero Tierney, Smith Rowe Moura Skipp, Saka Son & Kane based off of this season from an unbiased perspective and someone who’s watched both teams play almost every game
partey over skipp and most definitely Gabriel over Dier or Romero. Maybe Ramsdale over Lloris
@@idrial931 nah Skipp has been Tottenham’s best player this season and it’s obvious Lloris is better than Ramsdale. Shouldn’t be a debate about those two
Realistically though on form
Ramsdale
Tomi Romero Gabriel Tierney
Partey Odegaard Skip
Saka Laca Son
No. Lacazette is not better than Kane. Not at all. Kane and son are carrying Tottenham to wear they are even when Kane is “off form”. Laca doesn’t have an on form
I got Lloris, Tomiyasu, White, Romero, Tierney,.....Hojberg, Odegaard, Smith Rowe,.....Saka, Kane, Son...
6 Arsenal, 5 Spurs...Arsenal has a better defense, but Spurs has 2 of the best Attackers in the Division
Romero is not better than Gabriel
Funny how this video is only based on careers when all there past videos was based on season performance, gabriel is clear over romero
Skipp over Holjbjerg all day
yep 100% agree. skipp over hojberg though
If it’s not on current form then Auba should be up front hands down based on more goals and titles than spurs attackers
Mate kane has 4 golden bots
@@Blade-dy1ywAuba instead of son
@@opaque_6364 no cuz he is a striker not left wing if it was 2 up top then ye
Well personally I think form has a lot to do with it. If you are in training and ramsdale was showing up Lloris for weeks on end you aren’t going to say right Lloris has had a better career he can go in goal. The same for skipp. He’s better than you think the spurs fan see him as a prospect more than an consistent player which is why I think smithe Rowe would take his place. That’s not being bias but I think form has a lot to do with it and there should be 8 Arsenal players on that board
Chris: I’d probably have Mikel Arteta instead of Oliver Skipp
Flav: In a year’s time, you’ll see what a foolish thing that is to say.
Flav really though he did something there 😂. Aged like milk
Lloris has more games for France than Ramsdale has in his entire career. World Cup winning captain. Premier League veteran. It's a joke to even compare. Ramsdale might overtake him, but not today.
Yawn giroud won the World Cup ucl and Europa league as a starting player would you choose him over haaland? Replace Lloris with a wood in goal and France would’ve still won
@@04foreverinvincible69 He had 19 caps by the time he was Ramsdale's age. You think the gap between Ramsdale and Lloris is the same as GIroud and Haaland?
@@zedninja France never had any good goalies during loris time. Of course he's gonna get picked over the other bummy French keepers
Lloris tried his best to be Spursy and gifted Mandzukic a goal in the WC final, what even 🤣 on current form Lloris is Miles behind
@@Gxnshv this isn't based on form. You've just admitted Lloris is better overall, thanks
It would be easy if you phrase it the other way. Kane and Son will get in without question. And maybe Hojbjerg. That's just it
Romero’s better than any of your defenders
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza what the hell has he done for spurs? Stop living off of his Atalanta vibes and start typing once he does something for spurs.
@@mahithmelakakodituwakku8808 when fully fit he walks into your team.
@@BACKFLIPEDpizza he might. But at this moment in time no chance. Hasn't done enough
The problem is the formation, Arsenal don't even play 433 so why would you chose that formation? If we are being honest this team should have Skipp, Son & Kane the rest should be Arsenal players... also don't say it isn't based on form & then pick people because of there form 😂 either do it on form or don't
are you really being honest tho big man
neither to spurs they play a 343
I love how Chris tried to move the Lloris magnet across and ended up edjusting it because that was triggering me a lot that it wasn't central
Every spot except Son,Kane and Lloris
Being completely honest; Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, White, Gabriel, Tierney, Partey, Odegaard, Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Saka, Kane.
Bit deluded that
Good team but Aubameyang > Kane
Removing daft conditions and looking at it as who is genuinely just the better player FOR EITHER SPURS OR ARSENAL AND NOT INCLUDING FORMER CLUBS and using a traditional 433 to accommodate for both teams:
GK: Lloris
RB: Tomiyasu
CB: Gabriel
CB: Dier
LB: Tierney (Regi may have won europa league but hasn't been as good for spurs as Tierney has been for arsenal)
CDM: Skipp (again basing it purely on the fact that Partey for the most part has been underwhelming at arsenal, mostly due to injury admittedly. Skipp has been fantastic though)
CDM: Højbjerg
CAM: Odegaard/Smith Rowe (difficult to choose as both have been brilliant)
RW: Lucas Moura
ST: Lac... nah can't even say him as a joke it's obviously Kane
LW: Son
So that's 7 Spurs players and 4 Arsenal players for my personal starting 11. I've tried not to be biased as a Spurs fan but that's my genuine opinion
First he said Lloris > Ramsdale.
Then he says Dier > Gabriel/White
Then he says skipp > Odegaard
And then he says Moura > saka/martinelli
Just a spurs version of TY
You have to go on form?? Otherwise Eric dier gets in over saka, over arsenal cbs, over arsenal mids.
what a man ChrisMD is
They shouldve rated players on this year they've had. Players didn't get in because they're new...*can't put him because it's not based on form*
I beg we have Jim and Flav on it at the same time 😍
Ramsdale
Tomiyasu
White
Gabriel
Tierney
Partey
Xhaka
Saka
Ødergaard
ESR
Martinelli
I left when the tottenham guy talked about a WC when debating a PL starting XI ....
He was basing this off of their career rather then form due to injuries / covid / etc so winning the World Cup has to be classed as a higher accolade then getting relegated tbf
Updated version:
Ramsdale
White - Saliba - Gabriel - Zinchencko
Partey - Xhaka
Odegaard
Saka - Kane - Martinelli
bench: Turner - Tomiyasu - Romero - Tierney - Hojberg - Vieira - Kulusevski - Trossard - Jesus
after january as a Spurs fan my team would be Lloris, Tomiyasu, Gabriel, Romero, Tierney, Bentacour, Hojbjerg, Odegaard, Kulusevski, Son, Kane.
not even tomiyasu, he's been injured for too long, has to be doherty
@@melvinwikstroem4895 Doherty is out for the season mate :) Didnt name anyone based on injurys or how prone someone is to injurys.
Almost a perfect XI. Although I would keep both White and Gabriel but that is just me. Almost perfect still
... Except for Lloris. He got in career mode because this season Ramsdale is clearly his superior. Yet for Skip career mode goes out the window. On Ramsdale alone it should have been 7 Arsenal players to 4 Spurs.
Arsenal fan ?
@@gru2673 nah just has a brain
Usually I watch these combined teams and I can see how strong they look at the end, but all I see here is a weakened Arsenal team. The only two players I'd put in are Son and Kane, and if this was on form I wouldn't even put them in.
And these deluded sp*rs fans think that Dier is the best defender out of all of them 😂😂😂😂😂
@@1alamby72 The team that was 'flirting with relegation' consisted of Pablo Mari, Rob Holding, and Sead Kolasinac at the back. Deadwoods. Wouldn't get into that Sp*rs team either...
Then, we battered you 3-1 with our squad at full strength. You lot had players the likes of Son and Kane, yet still pocketed by Tomiyasu and Gabriel
@@sergeygeorgiy9154 Forgetting also Bellerin and Chambers
@@baseexploits9512 Yes, and also them
Funny how Spurs are still above you in the league table though with a game in hand, how do you explain that?
I get Ben's going forward, but'd have Gabriel, & if they went on the point of carter over form, skip shouldn't be there, but Emile
I think we can all agree the only correct team going off form (how it should be done) is:
Ramsdale
Tomiyasu
White
Gabriel
Tierney
Partey
ESR
Ødegaard
Saka
Kane
Son
Kane and Son is a no brainier they are top class players for spurs. Defensively though Arsenal's been sooo consistent. I love Ramsdale+ Tomi, Ben, Gab, Tierney, etc.
Its a bit strange you say skipp has to get in (which is because of current form) but ramsdale wouldnt because lloris won a world cup (but ramsdale is in better form)
But he’s not? Lloris has been very good for tottenham this season
@@daniellee3475 you seriously think he's been better than ramsdale this season? He's not even close ramsdale has played less games has more clean sheets, less goals conceded, higher saves per game rate, a 6.5% higher save success rate and not to mention has literally made the save of the season in most people's eyes. Its between ramsdale and josé sá for Goalkeeper of the season this year by far surely?
@@craigkeogh00 it’s not a case of being better this season, lloris has been one of the best keepers in the league for 10 years ramsdale has done it for about 10 games
@@daniellee3475 my comment is literally about this season thats the whole reason I posted it and this season ramsdale is so clear of lloris if it was based on their whole careers then skipp should not be in this squad its inconsistent
Spurs fans need to realise that Arsenal hit rock bottom, are rebuilding and will still win the league before they do 😂
You’re getting relegated next year
@@SpiredRapidity Don't care 😂
Big up! Hope you stay up but we need revenge on that lose early in the season
@@SpiredRapidity Arsenal just started, and the team is youngest in Prem, while Kane want a move to a bigger club, Thottenham have more chance to relegate than Arsenal.
@@someguyfromarcticfreezer6854 you’re telling me Antonio Conte has more of a chance of getting relegated than Pep’s Cone man? 💀
Wait ! Where can I get those magnets pls ??
Kane and Son are the only player that make the Arsenal squad for me. Everyone knows Kane loves arsenal anyway.
Lol "Form can't be a factor".... Olivier Skipp HAS to be there because of how good he's been this season... Wtf?
Changed his argument between every player lol
Fr they changing for everything Skipp isnt even a better player than Xhaka🤣 and I hate xhaka