Malaysia's ECRL: High-Speed Dream or Expensive Nightmare?
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- čas přidán 31. 12. 2023
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This is ECRL....electric medium speed train 160km per hr not HSR.....other transport alternative for east coast people which will reduce time from 7hrs to 4 hrs & even worst during festive season wll reached 14 hrs for nearly 1 million road users to the east coast & will benefit Kuantan port with the cargo train from east to west & vise versa bypass the southern route....
electric medium speed train 160km per hr to 220
i truly believe this a game changer for pantai timor, currently have ECRL, LTU, KBKK project been on going. Wisely increase economy between east & west cost.
180 km they can go ,its aa finaly sp[eed
HSR higher cost tiket... better not
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To those that think the ECRL "is an expensive nightmare" knows nothing about the states the train were intended to cover ! It'll open up this corridor to more business going forward. Also it greatly mitigate the many many hours lost taking the land route from KL (Kuala Lumpur) the capital to the East coast states ( Kelantan, Trengganu & Pahang) for every major festival. This project went through many "start, stop, start & stop again !" after many feasible studies on it & eventually the project were given the go ahead. The train not only carry passengers but also cargoes/goods, to carry cargoes from the West coast to the East coast Malaysia, it can take bulk cargoes from shipping in the Malacca Strait across to the south China sea on the East coast of Malaysia whereby shipping need not travel all through the narrow Malacca Strait !
Even Prasarana, KTM, MAS are all losing money. Why fall for the Communist China scam? Even most of their transit system are also losing money. The Tibet link can barely cover the cost of maintenance. The Euro-China railway line is hardly used because it's cheaper to send the containers by ship.
ECRL is a land bridge between the South China Sea and the Malacca Straits.
yes unless still no land bridge in thailand or sgenting kra was being built
ecrl is more like a new long plan for economy which is can have good impanct to modernisasi the east malaysia archipelago that living in poor life
@@amirism91 dia dah bina jalan darat mass keretapi dan jalanraya satu baris lurusssss punyaa ada simpang
There will be more indirect benefits to the country. Less traffic jam, less road accidents, fast mobility of goods & to spur the tourism sectors in East Coast.
Wrong…we do not expect HSR for ECRL.
The planning is for goods movement to contribute 70% of the revenue.
It is also known as "Spill-over effects",
which is usually not measurable in standard accounting book of profit and loss!
Yes, HSR may not be necessary for this route.
I believe many remember the "Concorde aircraft" histories. But some choose to forget.
Once or twice per year of indirect benefits are worth it? It is not worth it at all. It can be worth it if Kelantan, Terengganu government are proactive in calling investors to come & set up factories there & utilize the newly available short cut cargo route. But with PAS in government over these states do u actually think that is ever going to happen? Probably Pahang with Kuantan will be the one benefitted the most from this. I highly doubt Kelantan & Terengganu will benefit from it beyond a once or twice per year occurrences. The claim that these train services will boost tourism is also doubtful. Many flight tickes these days are really cheap. Will ECRL prices be very competitive against air travel? Judging by how much it costs for the project, I highly doubt the price would be very cheap.
It already has. In my town alone there have been dozens of property transactions being the spillover effects for being located nearby the ECRL station. Thanks to the ECRL, there are already plans to build 2 private specialist hospitals by the private sector, something that was once unthinkable a decade ago. Recently the CCCC a PRC investment arm company have just secured a long term lease with a local public listed company to lease and develop a new AI operated port in Port Dickson to utilise what ECRL has to offer.
No doubt a very daring rail transport project. If there is not enough passenger load for the train, it is going to be tough 10yrs ahead. The supporting population along the way is also clearly not there and wonder what will motivate migration of Malaysians from other states in the west to the east side.
The moment i know it has station in Puncak Alam (now full with residents) Gombak (LRT connection) , Serendah (genting Tunnel, bus feeder to Genting) and Cherating, i know it will generate Money from local east coast origin celebrant, local and foreign tourist to Genting and Cherating and KL worker who lives within these 3 area. Ppl who say otherwise never suffer driving to east coast, genting or live in Puncak Alam and work in KL
If kelantan and Trengganu want to move forward and develop, they must take this opportunity....not just look and doing nothing...tourism is important for these part of region.
At 670km, it is necessary for development for malay heartland. Furthermore, looking at overview it will link to China yunnan via Laos. Passing through thailand as a good neighbour.
Cargo can be moved in short period of time in less than 5 hrs.transferring goods frm malacca straits to south china sea.can bypass significant importance of singapore ports.
Asset must be effectively manage , on time , sync good spirit to service.
If you imply that this link can by-pass whatever Singapore is doing, you must come from Mars! This rail link has high hope to help Kelantan and Terengganu to develop, this will take decades. Its only hope is to see if it can divert the volume of Southern -east coast province's volume, which currently is trucked down to Penang port, through this link! More over, if the management is done locally, wouldn't it be just another KTMB?
There is a need for this ECRL.. it is not for showing off but to overcome the problems of transportation in Malaysia. HSR will be too expensive for the government and the consumers.
Nothing much change. We local company Malaysian can't afford to make our own railways. So we need help from other large country to build and participate. Just look back to our first railway that was build back then by the British and Japanese to transport the resources. Now the railway benefits so much to us for transportation. Just like this new project.
ECRL just another new rail line for Malaysia. If its too politicised then Malaysia has actually nothing development to do than just proud with what British left to this country, the KTM.
This line and later another lines throughout the peninsula n borneo just need to be constructed without too much havoc n over discussion.
Hopefully it's really a game changer to the country at least.
malaysian need moden train system into east coast region. ECRL definitely the answer. we do not need high speed rail like jakarta bandung. we need rail transport our cargo, people and our cows and kambing to be sold in kota bahru market. we do not need others told us what to do with our own rail system. if you thinking about making money, give us name where's in the world the train company making a lot of money? looking forward to our ECRL trains. let get there slowly, safely and more economic, valuable to our malaysian
Tbh the decision MRL made for ECRL to be operated at 160km/hr is better than at higher speed as this will increase the construction and operation cost which resulted in higher ticket price. Plus, this also ensure that the project does not fall within the China Debt Trap Scheme.
ECRL are basically ETS but for west cost of Peninsula Malaysia (kelantan teremgganu pahang). This is essentially needed to boost the economy.
HSR meanwhile..... Probably taking a flight from kul to Singapore are cheaper.
Edited - not east Malaysia but west coast peninsula
Update - Yes, Flight from KUL to SG are cheap. AirAsia offer RM69/one-way
direct ets new direct butterworth to kelantan double track. diesel locomotive container carrier tok bali port to penang port.long term income
Even Prasarana, KTM, MAS are all losing money. Why fall for the Communist China scam? Even most of their transit system are also losing money. The Tibet link can barely cover the cost of maintenance. The Euro-China railway line is hardly used because it's cheaper to send the containers by ship.
bruhhh its not ets its next level ,ets is just basicc ,ecrl is high level ,we just hope hsr kl to singapore will succes before 2034
@@afizi1213 ETS run at 140km/hr while ECRL was at 160km/hr. Both was an Inter City Commuter. So, in what area was the definition of high level that your saying.
@@muhamadfadzlyshaharani5787 but then train is different this is the standart fast even they ability can go more that 180 km 🤤
ECRL is a must to connect east coast and west coast part of Peninsular Malaysia.
However, HSR KL to Singapore is questionable because now KTM have develop ETS from KL to JB and JB also will have RTS to Woodlands, Singapore.
maybe one day malaysia will build it with japan
HSR KL-SG is very feasible. linking the two richest cities in ASEAN, it's also one of the busiest air corridors in the world. HSR works in less ideal situations.
@@malekzin4788 You said it's feasible! How much is the cost of HSR? Can we afford it? How much will the maintenance cost of HSR? No one gives answer to all this questions!
Yup. KL-SG is very well connected thru ETS next year. What abt HSR is just another one different line parallel with ETS with just a liltle bit better time travel. Think abt it twice. Let ETS start it service 1st and see
@@ChowYewLoonmay I enlighten you.
It was feasible when the HSR was inked . It wasfeasibel as we had GST that brought additional tens of billions to the economy.
With change if govt, PH scrapped HSR. And it made blunderbu reverting to SST.
Now it is a matter of time before HSR is to be relaunched but with private initiative
Its a good project, now i can go to east coast easily for work..
Long term benefit project for the future Malaysia.
Malay should consider to coorperate with china build HSR like Indo, As ASEAN country we should rise together, Malay - Singapore - Indo should conect with HSR. it will bring so much economical advantage
By building undersea railway tunnels like seikan and channel tunnel
Heee…heee…ngak bisa malay bina hsr…nanti indo marah dikatakan klaim hsr indo 😂😂
USA never focuses on HSR. They use trains for cargo only.
Wherever you build a grand project it sure is a dream for those who benefit from it and nitemare for those who dont. Remember you arent the only ones clamouring for a better life, so is most of everyone else. So get over it.
ecrl railway line is long travel of line across several states unlike Indonesia kcic which is only now from Jakarta to Bandung which is very short for fast speed train..
It links port klang to kuantan port. Similar to mexico's Pacific Atlantic rail Road.
about ecrl we believe so many people will use it to reduce the numbers of car that already make road jammed so bad and the cost of ticket what i expect is not expensive so much its just more that ets ticket yeahh about 50 to 80 ringgit is good but if 80 to 12o is still good for one destination that far wth the convinion they give like services
Not HSR, please do your research before writing. Malaysia did this rail connection.
as an indonesian, the biggest hurdle of the HSR is politics
HSR not viable anywhere unless the population exceeds 200 million, I believe so.Taking a plane is cheaper. The only thing that I am not happy is the 22 km distance to Kuala Terengganu against 10 km to the airport. Flying is a better option for me. Kuala Terengganu is a tourist hot spot. Yes, development to the rural areas but could have made it 10km nearer.
Jgn memaksakan sesuatu karna gengsi tinggi...bukan membuat kereta cepat aja yg di pikirkan tapi penumpangnya juga di perhitungkan..kalau minim penumpang bakalan bangkrut, kereta cepat biaya oprasinya mahal...
Benar itu ...buat sesuatu mesti Ada tujuan bukan demi gengsi atau show off....ECRL ni utk kurangkan traffic jem,pembangunan pantai Timur, kargo transport.,..& keuntungan mungkin byk Dari kargo transport....
indonesia tak risau apaa penduduk dia ramai mampu beli ,kuasa beli besar ,malaysia kuasa beli kurang penduduk pun xramai semua jaga baget diaa ,gaji sikit
This ECRL is necessary. No need to question something that is way overdue for the people of the East Coast of Malaysia.
Also, very bad research on this. ECRL does not have much of an impact on Malaysia's economic future. Its to modernize the network. The East Coast of Malaysia is not much of an economic corroridor.
My answer is that it will not propel my country into a high income nation.
Clearly its an expensive nightmare for the people of malaysia huhuhu
"ECRL" is a misnomer. It should be renamed "East-West Rail Link" or "EWRL".
0:46 this is japan ,japan is rich about culture ,village , agriculture,technology and also tourism
I don’t understand why do you raise these questions now? They should have been looked into and analyzed early on during the feasibility phase.
It is only single track. No doubt, more billions will be spent a second time to double track it in the future. Having said that, KTM does not run many trains a day, even on their double tracks in the west coast.
It was double track, standard gauge railway project...i dont know where you get that information from...
@@lastword2023 Yes, it is a standard gauge single track project built on double track foundation (e.g. tunnels and bridges are suitable for double tracks). The original project was fully double track but the government decided to cut costs.
Existing KTM tracks are metre gauge - so ECRL trains should still be capable of slightly higher speeds than current KTM trains.
still lot cheaper la because you have the double track space. next time when the need of upgrade or lay new track we will use local capabilities. right know the package seems to be monopolised or perhaps 100% done by CCP contractor. think positive because we might need that upgrade after 10 years. i live with putra lrt and sri petaling lrt for more than 20 years. it will take time. at least cargo operation is the main scope of this project.
@@fleemwings207its double track.... double track in single track is in Gombak to Klang Section wich mean they got two track... 1st is standard guage and second is meter guage....
Class Facility requires Class Mentality.
This ECRL project more to transport cargo/good not people HSR Indonesia for transport people that make different admin..
Indonesia berhutang dan rugi 7.1 triliun rupiah sebab kos operasi tinggi...czcams.com/video/Dk5xot5SnJ4/video.htmlsi=OFYXdF9tdk1aLBSq
ECL is long long overdue. Get it done.
This man is confused. ECRL is not high speed but medium speed. There is no sound economic analysis but vague talk of benefits. Prof Jomo has said this line will not even make an operating profit, not to mention paying down capital investment. Taxpayers will foot every single cent of the RM65 billion.
Bro, Malaysia kena ada ECRL. Sekarang nak balik kampung pantai timur ke terengganu jam teruk musim perayaan. Dengan ada kereta api ECRL, orang ramai boleh naik kereta api. Makin sikit orang di jalan raya lebuh raya pantai timur
Hopefully the expectation become untrue! ECRL will bring in profit and developments to East Coast! Will PAS govt will be able to captured the potential of ECRL?
@@afifi1828 KTM rugi sampai hari ini! Apa bezanya ECRL dengan KTM?
@@ChowYewLoon False, ETS services have turned KTMB around.
Mat, mrt, erl, komuter, lrt semua pon masih rugi sampai harini. Ko hanya akan buat public transport untuk rakyat bila benda tu dpt untung melalui nilai duit saja ke? Buat ape kerajaan buat hospital untuk rugi je. Buat ape bina sekolah sedangkan xde keuntungan ringgit.
Itu lah bang kita panggil public responsibility government. Not all infra proect built by gomen need to be money oriented. While west coast state got all the best infra, now u claiming this ecrl membazir. Kelakar lah u ni. @@ChowYewLoon
At least with ECRL, we have the infrastructure for the rakyat to use, rather than all the billions stashed into private offshore accounts of those named listed in the pandora papers, that was all the money siphoned away by our elite umnoputra politicians.
It is just similar to kra landbridge proposed by thailand but on steroids.
ECRL 160KM PERHOUR NOT HIGH SPEED TRAIN 360KM....HIGH SPEED TRAIN IS KL TO SINGAPORE 360KM PERHOUR START 2028..
Hsr is a private project, not gov.
As for high speed train, there's no way Malaysia can buy Japanese Bullet train, it's too expensive. HSR is cost 50 Billion dollar
Ecrl is not high speed train. Just 130km speed which half fast than normal ktm 110km speed train.
Dreams realised
From western's view, developing country does not deserve development, better poor forever. All are risks and trapps, no hope...
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Can wear short pants on board ka?
You can even strip naked in your cabin. You pay for your tix. 😂
clickbait and misleading title. dislike.
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anugerah komen paling bangang
indon punya hsr 100 km je bang. rileks la. sistem transit bandar kite je dah beratus KM. train g padang besar pon dh beratus KM dh bertahun pakai. indon population dia mcm mana. dia punya local usage je dh cukup xkesah la nk membazir kt hsr yg 100km lebih tu je. takat 100km tu orng kita naik motor je bang g keje ulang alik kt highway world class. takat penuh weekend lingkup la. ko keje nk kondem ke. ko tahu ecrl ni main purpose dia cargo operation? nnt xde la kt karak tu lori sadai sbb gear rosak nk lalu genting sempah tu. sembang palatao ko ni
Kalah dengan Laos dan Indonesia 😂😂😂 masih bermimpi
Tertinggal apa? Hutang China?
Tertinggal apa?....lain segment la....ini project besar jangan rushing la...
Hanya angan angan semata...oh kasian banget negara GIVEAWAY itu merasa kaya tapi tak sesuai realita !! 😂😂😂😂
Iri.... lo ama Malaysia....
@@rozlanrozlan5942 gw iri ?!?! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 ngakak so hard !!!
@@brianrizky619 Negara kami..., kami uruskan...., Indonesia uruskan Negara Indonesia...., jgn menghujat....., masing masing uruslah Negara masing...., tak perlu menghujat..... Indonesia Negara G20 setara Amereka, China, Russia......, Malaysia Negara miskin.... Ok.....
ecrl siap tahun 2026 menghubung negeri kelantan dan seallngor harap maklum ndon taek
Angan2 apanya donk...ECRL ni pun udah bermula & siap thn 2027...Msia x perlu HSR hanya demi gengsi....medium speed ini pun sudah cukup utk bawa penumpang & kargo transport....
It's better not be an expensive nightmare! I don't want to pay for it the rest of my life!
How much did you pay ?
@@zanzillahsaruji9966 How much the National Debt is! Then that's the price you have to pay! If the govt can't afford it then they will increase your tax to cover for it! Like that also you need to ask me!
Malay tak ada uang nanti gagal lagi🤭🤭🤭
@@muhamadfaizal2006 waw mulut nya manis sekali orang Malaysia🤣
@@muhamadfaizal2006 karena malon🇲🇾 miskin tak ada uang makannya bikin kereta cepat aja gagal🤣🤣🤣. Forest City malon aja gagal🤣🤣🤣. Malon kalo miskin tak ada uang diam gak usah banyak gaya🤣🤣🤣
@@laurafleisbein2833 apa khabar meikarta🤣
Ni hal Malaysia yg ko Ind0n seb0k kenapa?
@@muhamadfaizal2006 malon 🇲🇾 gak baca berita ya meikarta tetap jalan tuh dan ada penghuninya dan itu investor dalam negeri. Beda lah sama forest city malon yang investor nya china yang bangkrut 🤣🤣🤣. Kasihan malon di berita internasional di sebut ghost town karena malon miskin tak ada uang gak mungkin bisa melanjutkan 🤣🤣🤣. Hsr malon gagal dan forest City malon juga gagal karena malon miskin tak ada uang buat melanjutkan 🤣🤣🤣
Monkey from pakatan @ 22 month stop the project and pay rm321 million to Singapore...and now..kakaka