Why Jakarta is sinking
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- The 400-year curse dragging Indonesia's capital into the sea.
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Like many coastal cities around the world, Jakarta is dealing with sea level rise. But Indonesia's biggest city also has a unique problem: Because of restricted water access in the city, the majority of its residents have to extract groundwater to survive. And it's causing the city to sink. Today, Jakarta is the world’s fastest-sinking city.
The problem gets worse every year, but the root of it precedes modern Indonesia by centuries. In the 1600s, when the Dutch landed in Indonesia and built present-day Jakarta, they divided up the city to segregate the population. Eventually, that segregation led to an unequal water piping system that excluded most Indigenous Jakartans, forcing them to find other ways to get water.
To understand how it all ties together, and what’s in store for Jakarta’s future, watch the video above.
Sources and further reading:
If you want to learn more about the development of Jakarta’s urban water supply going all the way back to colonial times, check out Michelle Kooy’s detailed reports:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...
www.academia.edu/3682152/Spli...
To understand Jakarta’s colonial history and the segregation that came of it, check out this article from the Journal of Historians of Netherlandish Art: jhna.org/articles/dutch-batav...
To read about the evolution of the canals the Dutch built in present-day Jakarta and how their deterioration impacted water access and segregation, here’s a study from Dr. Euis Puspita Dewi, who we feature in the video:
scholar.ui.ac.id/en/publicati...
To get a broader look at the many other cities sinking in Indonesia, check out this article by Dr. Estelle Chaussard: www.sciencedirect.com/science...
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Thanks!
Scientist: Jakarta is sinking!
Indonesian media: Look what this celebrity is gonna do today!
🤣
Jakarta literly sinking
Media:. Hey look that artist just build 5t trillion house!
How ironic
As a person who used to live in jakarta (now tangerang) this statement is pretty much true ngl
this is basically the state of Asian news media..
In india, there is a big wildfire right now
(They never even talked about it on the news) and all they talk about is some politician spraining their leg..
How irony it is that "the city is sinking because the people living in it don't have enough water"
It is more ironic that it was once a Dutch colony, a country known for holding back and reclaiming land from the North Sea.
If dutch did succeed being colonizing indonesia
Then they would have become suffered because the "sinking" jakarta :|
"Water Water everywhere and not a drop to drink."
--Samuel Coleridge
if you want to be a leader in Indonesia you have to be of the same faith
The most irony is, Java Island would face "water" crisis in 2050, while cities suffered from "flood".
Floods?
You mean the annual Jakarta public waterpark?
It gets so popular we almost hold it every month now.
🤣
*mother nature holds it for us
*every year
Yes once my neighborhood had this smoll flood which i swam in and it was fun
Melihat bapak2 ni kata “mahu kemana lagi”..hati saya jadi sayu😔..moga dipermudahkan semuanya..salam dari Msia🇲🇾..
selam
Lah dia juga milih Anies. Biarin aja dia mampus tenggelam, kan salah sendiri.
Masa ada news ibukota jakarta di pindah ke kalimantan,aku cakap kat adik aku,ibu kota indonesia di kalimantan sudah???kenapa yea,terus dia cakap,sbb jakarta mahu tenggelam sudah"aku pon iyea ke?biar betol,cam percaya atau tidak...rupa nya betol2 juga baru nampak vedio nii.
AMIN
@@6olgqlqdy931 kann..moga semuanya baik2 sj dan dipermudahkn🥺
as indonesian this particular problem never being aired in our national television, but foreign media always give a information about this problem maybe most of indonesian will never know about jakarta is sinking. so thank you Vox.
Now that’s depressing
everybody knows jakarta is sinking idk what u talking about
Karena media indonesia kalo bikin content bisanya yang cetek-cetek aja macem sinetron dan talkshow receh demi ngejer rating dan pundi-pundi dari pengiklan 🙈
Gak pernah liat berita ya bos, kalo musim banjir juga pasti diomongin soal ini, wawancara panjang juga, gak cuman sekelibet
@@windyadiyatna7912 cuan paling penting yakan👏
what saddens me is our national media doesn’t even produce such amazing educational video like this
there's channels like "Kok Bisa" that's pretty educational
Truth from real scientists: Jakarta is sinking because it was built on the unstable surface of an aquifer from which water is being extracted for consumption.
Lie from global warming scammers (a.k.a. climate change scammers):Jakarta is sinking because of global warming caused by CO2 from fossil fuels. Global warming has caused the polar ice to melt and the sea level to rise globally.
The global warming scammers don't care about the truth and real science. They are radical left politicians who want to use the global warming lies to carry out devious policies to make themselves filthy rich.
Indonesia's mainstream media tends to be more sensationalist and clickbaity for the revenue's sake.
@@simon6071 Hey, could I know which real scientists discovered that? I'm interested in who specifically did that research
They did, it's just never surfaces
As someone who's Indonesian and has been to Jakarta multiple times, I can say the ground water pumping thing is accurate and has become a real problem. This definitely needs to reach to Jakarta at some point as news, but from what I've seen, it's been neglected for the longest time, and as long as you can make a living in Jakarta, nobody will care. People need to do something.
Ada indonesia coy
Yang dari Indonesia like
You're shining a light on a crucial issue. The groundwater problem in Jakarta is indeed serious and warrants immediate attention. It's disheartening when such critical concerns don't receive the coverage they deserve locally, leading to a lack of public awareness and action. The resilience and hustle of life in Jakarta can sometimes overshadow these environmental challenges, but it's vital for the community to come together, raise awareness, and seek sustainable solutions. It's about the city's future and the well-being of its people.
That man said, We are a Trapped People. I cannot imagine the heartache and desolation of that. God help us as a people.
"we are moving the capitol of Indonesia"
me: "we are moving the rich people again, good luck everybody else"
capital does not mean rich people... smh
@@neoduckman365 yes but only rich people can move easily to another city without worrying economic issues, no need to think about job and living place
@@adhipratama3347 yeah. if the capital does move i bet that the fishermen and farmers will refuse to move. it's literally in the news that local fishermen don't want to move out because they're so used to their job
@@adhipratama3347 see, this is actually an example of people being cynical about rich people. The rich people will still worry about economic issues or it may be their number 1 priority, "economic issues". Jakarta is sinking by a lot of factors including historical and current economic factor.
But talking about "capital", it is mainly focused on the central goverment, not mainly about the rich people nor the economy.
@@neoduckman365 the fact you worry the rich instead of the poor kinda disturbs me
Indonesian government considering moving their capital.
Indonesian Government: _We are gonna do what's in the profession called a dutch move._
The Dutch doesn't run away. They conquer the ocean.
Tbf the plan to move the capital city to borneo has nothing to do with Jakarta sinking.
The plan is always been there since 1960s proposed by the 1st Indonesian President because he think it's it will become heavy burden for Jakarta to become the centre of Government, Economy, Entertainment etc...
The plan only been taking seriously in early 2010s and now the govt finally decided to move it in 2019.
And their doesn't have money to moving the capital. The solution? Always getting debt, that's why indonesian debt compare with the last 6 years already gain 6000%
I'd like to say we never moved our capital, but that would be forgetting about king Lodewijk I, our first monarch, who moved the capital constantly. Excepting his reign though, the capital has consistently been at Amsterdam since Dutch independence.
Well they doesn't ran away from the sea tho...*THEY CONQUER THEM*
When the capital is in crisis, the politicians have a great response by moving the capital to a new city. Now the capital does not have a crisis.
Egypt is doing the same thing too!
the sarcasm though
Why ur surname is somewhat similar to indian??
@@user-yo1dk8pb4d because we are from eastern asia
@@J4WURSED Indonesia is southeast Asia
@@getrektboy i know that bruh
Thank you! As an Indonesian living in part of Jakarta, I'm concerned with the issue yet do not have the technical knowledge nor eloquence to explain the matter precisely. Thank you so much for the informative video :)
Stop voting and killing politicians because of religion!
Jakarta: sinks
The government: Aight, Imma head out.
Jakarta: sinks
Napoleon: this seems like a good place to settle down
@@MeXicgamers Well it wasn't always sinking
Maybe they think nothing can be done and they need to take care of the other parts of the country and also can better help Jakarta when they are on a more 'stable' base themselves.
Joke aside, As indonesian and visited jakarta once in a while, i can tell that the city is beyond repair. The idea is to move urbanisation somewhere else, outside java
Jakarta : sinks
The government : oh noooo, anyways
As someone from Jakarta, we all know this is happening, but no one seems to care enough to do anything about it. It seems like foreign media cares more and we've just accepted defeat.
It's sad that people accept their sad situation that wasn't caused by them
@@seank7413 if you do nothing about it.
You have caused it .. period.
@@JuniorJuni070 yea but what can they do? Genuine question btw
I agree, in 6th grade I wrote a speech about how Jakarta is sinking to spread awareness
It's ok move to North Sulawesi ✅✅✅
I find it quite ironic that it's a dutch company that was hired to fix this problem
Not many better than dutch at seawalls .
i guess they are "colonising" again
@@heskiel5115 looks like they need it tbh
Basically Dutch came not only with their design, weapons and transport also with their sinking problem
not really way to much people in indonesia
The sinking is just due to the corrupt government not being able to provide water (as well as other basic needs) to its people
Well even if all of jakarta was piped, (which they could have made massive steps in in 70 years. Come on it's the capital city) The threat of sinking swamp land and rising sea levels would still exist. When you build cities with huge buildings on swamp land the ground simply sinks over time. It's like that everywhere. Building a pipe system on Java would just mean other lands on Java would sink faster.
@@frisianesc6905 thats also why the dutch was planning on moving it
@@davidjoelsson4929 I think it's a joke
Jakarta: Sinks
Indonesia: we're moving our capital to Borneo
Borneo: *sweats profusely*
indonesia is dump!!!!! in their head just showw offf!!!!!!!!!
@@lensagrapher3225 nunggu rame
@@chasemophobic aokwkwk santai, tinggal report v:
@@lensagrapher3225 ?
Well they're just gonna leave the problems not solve it LoL
Jakarta: *Sinking*
Government: we're not sinking, we're providing water for the 60%
I think you mean 40%
@@ilikepennys4884 8:25
40% have piped water
my joke was providing water for those that dont have it
lol
Between peoples many people type is very evil!!!!
😂
Thank you for uploading this, indonesia usually just airs gossips about viral celebs for random reasons that arent really important. As an indonesian, who lives in jakarta, i didn't even know that this condition was happening in jakarta.. i feel kinda ashamed for not knowing this sooner. I also feel embaressed that my country usually just ignore these kinds of problems happening in our country.
It’s ok I’m just learning things day by day about my roots
Media disease seems same everywhere. People really need to open their minds and start asking questions to the government, because the media ain't gonna do it. Don't be sheeps.
i really like this, y'all really did the research so good! thank you Vox
This is actually the first logical explanation of Jakarta's sinking problem I've heard of, and it's not even from Indonesian media. People here either blame a "mystical force" or a neighboring city. Thank you!
How about blaming littering?
I remember hearing someone said that the reason Jakarta is sinking is because people litter all over the place, but it seems that that's not right at all.
@@alexanderbudianto7794 it might be one of the reason but we are outsiders only people who live there might know because only the person know what's going on with his own body
never ive heard anyone blaming mystical power/ neighboring country
@@snuckel4 then welcome to Indonesia
@@edelweissurya6409 Bruh im Indonesian
Jakarta: *flooding*
The government: we are not flooding, those are just massive puddles of water.
also the government: lets move the capital
Wow
@Rowlty "it's only a problem if you pay attention to it" Indonesian government probably
Sorry sir.
Anies baswedan already did groundwater recharge for years now
Udah diujung tenggelam begini y mo gmn gan
Actually most politicians don't even care about this they just want money..
Keep voting in name of religion..
For real tho I'm very, very sick and tired of people using one's religiousness to measure how "competent" they are... pure logic.
Been watching similar vids on this subject ie sinking cities, ground subsidence. Very important message for the humankind to learn on how development brought such detrimental effects to future state.
Watching this while reading "flooding" is trending again on twitter.
in Indonesia?
@@evil-resident in Jakarta
@@evil-resident yeah
@@vladimirdmitrov6678 in Jakarta.
who cares
Actual solution: Provide piped water
Answer provided by government: GIANT BIRD
Providing piped water to everyone in an already developed and already sinking city could be very costly. Expensive to place the pipes in a very developed city and very expensive to maintain the system as it is still sinking and will continue to sink for a while even if you would manage to provide piped water to everyone overnight. Look at what happened to that sea wall, nobody could figure out that when it inevitably sinks as well it is not going to be watertight anymore?
most of our goverments is corrupt so if only they didnt we probably already have a pipe system already
They need a source of water, a clean river. Jakarta didn't have that much.
@Joyce Al Fath ahahah congrats bre
@Joyce Al Fath Hah? Apa hubungannya dah? Jakarta mau tenggelem malah ngomongin bola. Ntar kalo gak ngapa2 in stadionnya juga ikutan tenggelem. Aneh
I only knew about Jakarta sinking in 2015 (when I was 15). As an internet addicted teen, I happened to come across an international news article and also some CZcams videos explaining about it as well, how the foundation keeping Jakarta from sinking collapsing due to digging illegal wells.
The sinking didn't happen now, it has been happening over decades but it's ironic that news about Jakarta sinking and government's plans to move the capital city to Borneo happened to gain popularity only around 2019. The awareness of this urgent matter comes extremely late to the locals.
Now it's all forgotten again and everyone in Jakarta here put it in the back of their minds lol.
i'm in north of jakarta
weeee
one day i'll wake up floating
MALAY SUBTITLES Part 1 of 2
00:03
Ini adalah Masjid Waladuna di Jakarta.
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Bumbungnya runtuh.
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Lumut menutupi dinding.
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Dan air laut mengalir di setiap sudut.
00:14
Kali terakhir orang bersolat di sini adalah pada tahun 2001, ketika ia berada di atas tanah.
00:19
Hari ini, ini adalah tanda amaran.
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Ini menandakan apa yang dapat terjadi pada ibu negara Indonesia jika tidak segera berubah.
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Kerana, walaupun Jakarta menghadapi permukaan laut yang sama naik
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seperti bandar pesisir lain di seluruh dunia,
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itu tidak seperti yang kita lihat di sini.
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Jakarta semakin tenggelam. Dan sudah tenggelam selama beberapa dekad.
00:45
Kawasan biru ini menunjukkan berapa banyak bandar yang telah tenggelam sejak tahun 1970-an.
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Semakin gelap kawasan itu, semakin banyak kawasan itu dijatuhkan.
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Inilah seberapa banyak yang diturunkan hari ini.
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Sebahagian besar tenggelam berlaku di sini, di pantai utara,
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di mana Jakarta bertemu dengan Laut Jawa.
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Di sini, tanah tenggelam sekitar 25 cm setahun,
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merosakkan kawasan, merosakkan kediaman,
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dan meningkatkan kehidupan orang, berulang-ulang kali.
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Ramai penduduk di sini adalah nelayan, yang perlu tinggal di tepi pantai untuk mencari nafkah,
01:29
tetapi, lebih jauh di pedalaman, lebih dari 10 juta penduduk Jakarta juga berisiko.
01:36
Sebilangan besar bandar, dan rumah berjuta-juta orang, boleh berada di bawah air pada tahun 2050.
01:42
Jakarta duduk di dataran rawa, di tanah pesisir rendah.
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Ia mempunyai 13 sungai yang mengalir melaluinya.
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Tetapi alasan bandar itu tenggelam
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sebenarnya kebanyakan orang di sini tidak mempunyai cukup air.
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Sebilangan besar orang Jakarta tidak mempunyai akses ke air yang bersih dan berpaip.
02:01
Sebaliknya, mereka mendapatkan air dengan menggali sumur seperti ini.
02:05
Pam masuk jauh ke dalam tanah untuk mengeluarkan air yang tersimpan di akuifer,
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lapisan batu bawah tanah yang menahan air bawah tanah.
02:13
Ruang batu berliang dipenuhi dengannya.
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Gandakan ini dengan beberapa juta, dan anda menghadapi masalah.
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Fikirkan batu itu sebagai span yang direndam:
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semakin banyak air diekstrak, semakin banyak mengempis,
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menyebabkan tanah menjadi padat dan runtuh, dan tanah di atasnya tenggelam.
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Pam sahaja tidak boleh melakukan ini.
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Walaupun beberapa lapisan bumi tidak akan dapat memulihkan airnya,
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akuifer biasanya diisi semula secara semula jadi ketika hujan.
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Tetapi di Jakarta, perkara itu menjadi semakin jarang.
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Selama beberapa dekad, Jakarta telah berkembang dengan cepat,
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dan kini ditutup dengan konkrit.
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Jadi hujan yang biasanya memenuhi akuifer tidak dapat diserap.
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Ia menjadi sangat teruk sehingga di kawasan pesisir terdedah kepada banjir,
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seperti komuniti nelayan Muara Baru,
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orang telah membina jambatan sementara untuk bergerak melalui kawasan kejiranan mereka.
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Digabungkan dengan kenaikan permukaan laut,
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ia juga menjadikan banjir ketika air pasang dan musim hujan jauh lebih berbahaya.
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Seperti pada tahun 2007, ketika Jakarta mengalami salah satu banjir terburuk
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dalam sejarah modennya.
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Ribut dan pasang surut menyebabkan sungai dan terusan di sekitar bandar meluap,
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membunuh 80 orang.
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Maksim telah kehilangan rumahnya kerana tenggelam,
03:42
dan sekarang tidur di atas kapal nelayannya.
03:45
Dan Nondho terpaksa membina semula kediamannya beberapa kali.
04:01
Pengepaman air bawah tanah membahayakan keselamatan Jakarta.
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Tetapi untuk memahami bagaimana ia memasuki situasi ini sebagai permulaan,
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anda mesti kembali berabad-abad.
04:14
Pada tahun 1600-an, ketika kuasa Eropah menjajah dunia,
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Belanda mengambil alih bandar pelabuhan Jayakarta ketika itu.
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Mereka merobohkannya ke tanah, dan di tempatnya, dibangun Batavia:
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markas bagi kerajaan mereka yang semakin meningkat.
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Mereka mula menguasai Indonesia,
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Orang Cina, India, dan Arab yang tinggal di sana selama berabad-abad,
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dan membina bandar baru mereka dengan gaya Belanda,
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dengan rumah bandar yang sempit di sepanjang terusan.
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Terusan tersebut digunakan untuk perdagangan, pertahanan, dan untuk membuat Batavia merasa seperti kota Belanda.
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Tetapi lihatlah Batavia dari atas,
04:49
dan anda dapat melihat grid bandar juga mempunyai tujuan yang lebih gelap.
05:16
Sekiranya anda melihat dengan teliti, anda akan melihat bahawa tidak ada banyak jambatan
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antara dua sisi, atau di antara blok.
05:23
Ini berdasarkan reka bentuk. Belanda lebih banyak.
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Oleh itu, untuk mengawal penduduk tempatan, mereka membahagikannya.
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Ia kelihatan seperti ini.
05:33
Hampir setiap kumpulan terbatas di kawasan bandar mereka.
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Belanda memerintah penduduk tempatan seperti ini selama lebih dari satu abad.
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Tetapi itu mula berubah pada pertengahan tahun 1700-an.
05:47
Kerana Belanda tidak menjaga terusan dengan betul, mereka mulai merosot,
05:51
dan sedimen dari gempa bumi menyekat aliran air.
05:54
Air di terusan berubah-ubah, dan tidak lama lagi, boleh membawa maut.
06:13
Ketika penyakit merebak melalui saluran,
06:15
Belanda yang kaya berpindah ke selatan Batavia,
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di mana mereka mula mengembangkan pusat pentadbiran kolonial baru.
06:21
Tetapi, di sebalik kematian dan penyakit, Belanda terus membiarkan terusan tidak dirawat.
This was an amazing thing for you to do. I don't know Malay, nor its Indonesian dialect, so I don't even know if the people of Jakarta can appreciate your hard work here. However, based on the other comments, more people being able to understand this video, the better.
@@BoyProdigyX Thank you for the kind remarks. I have posted Malay subtitles in the above comment.
The government be like : pipe water? Nah, too expensive. Lets just move the capital to Borneo instead
corruption at its finest
Beautiful Indonesia
@@AlonsoRules nah its national security issue. There will be lots of corruptions of course
Don't forget other natural disasters such as earthquakes, volcano erruptions, tsunamis and etc. Of course Borneo is a logical choice, it is the safest island in Indonesia for a capital city.
So what??? Why do the central government have to wait for every little issue in Jakarta to be solved before they can develop the other islands? Jakarta residents and their elected provincial government should start to learn how to solve their own problems and not be so dependent on the central government. They have the money... they have the human resources... they're more educated (or so they claim)... why do you have to run to daddy every time you get flooded???
the way this was posted while jakarta is literally drowning with floods because of high rain intensity for the last couple of days....
edit: i hope everyone stay safe😔
I know right the irony
Yes it is very bad. I live in karawaci. The floods were also bad last year.
Well that's good. Let them see, why their city is no longer suitable for capital city...
@@Stash186 karawaci isnt tangerang?
@@linearchitect you’re saying they don’t deserve to have the capital but do you not sympathize with the millions of people suffering there? it’s not about hAvInG tHe cApItAl
I find it funny, and sad at the same time. Knowing that the government never addressed this issue as international media have done, I'm pretty sure that Indonesia is still far far far away from what we call "smart" journalism. When today, most of them only interest In politics or trash jokes...
I am studying Jakarta for my research as minor comparison with Shanghai especially in terms of land subsidence control, underground space tunneling, rapid urbanisation and economic impact externalities spatial model. I really hope my study will open up new possibilities, insights and solutions to these worsening issues of Jakarta.
Hi there! I hope your study is around completion by now. I would love to know more about it.
Jakarta: Is drowning/sinking
Corrupt Officials: imma pretend i didn't see that
Texas!
🤣 that's right. Nice monologue
Truth hurts a lot
Corrupt officials have to live there too. Do all of them have the means to flee?
When you prioritize following Sharia law and punishing every heretic for some questionable justification rather than finishing off building the first stages that creates a stable civilization, you know you're in trouble.
Government:
Save jakarta to our grandchildren ❌
Let our grandchildren think about it ✔️
Sadly.. 😭
Indonesia is just a jinxed place with many religious-sick people in it.
really? as a Malaysian i feel what you fell because politics is very one of the things i hate
....and then the cycle will continue if even the grandchildren themselves think their own grandchildren in the future will do the same. in the end no action will be taken.
XD yea thats better
Amazing ! Long time viewer of Vox. Totally blown away with Vox's content in 2021!
Got what I needed in the first 3 minutes. Thanks!
Even the Indonesian government acted like the Dutch: Shift the capital somewhere else and leave the citizens behind
TRUE,i just realized that too
Sometimes, you'll live long enough to become the monster that you opposed.
Just like Israel...
But they don't move because it's sinking bro
@Lynstaor dear the ground itself is sinking, even if you build walls, how long will they last?
to be honest dutch gov was and is much better than here, plus the citizen there is much more civilized, unlike in here where so called religious people act and do the things they werent supposed to do, such filthy hipocrites!
and as indonesian students, we're all taught that the primary cause of floods is littering.
That is definitely part of the issue. But as the video spells out, water pumping and the concrete cover Jakarta now is under are the main culprits. If it was just littering, floods could be prevented, just like when Ahok was governor and decided to actually (*GASP!*) /clean/ the waterways.
Littering would only cause a small area of flood
Jakarta don't have any adequate water infrastructure to begin with.
Ce cauti mamica acolo?!
@@MartinVanBoven I totally agree with you! oh how much I miss seeing waterways *actually* being cleaned instead of listening to empty promises🙂 The sad truth is that I would've never known about these real problems if it weren't for Vox. The cause of floods provided by most textbooks is *littering*🤥
Thank you, it is so sad for millions of people to suffer all this.
cool, more beach front property...great job, keep up the good work.
Jakarta took being a part of SEA literally
Underrated comment
Okay i got it now lol
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im indonesia live in jakarta people in here just dont care
Lol SE asia
This is shown how history repeats it self. “Leave it, and build another problematic city” . Ignorance at it’s finest.
Couldn't agree more with this comment
@@hohihoss I, myself, Donald J. Trump, can't agree more.
Same in Nigeria, with Lagos (neglected megacity) and Abuja (new capital further inland)
Hahaha exactly.
🤷♂️"Why bother to solve problems when we can create new city "💁♂️
and do u have a solution for this problem ?
This!!! the explaination much better and makes sense
Even if they build a piped water system for everyone now, the sinking rate would decrease like a gentle curve. But this is a huge engineering problem, as you can't just build a pipe system in a soil that is moving so quickly and unevenly. It would cause the pipes to break, so in other words: The city is doomed as the solutions get harder to implement
As always the poor people are the ones that end up suffering.
@•null_rose• That's because they are. Objectively speaking, many (in the fishing areas) fall below the poverty line
@•null_rose• dude were literally a third world country
@saint i agree, many of my cousins lives in Jakarta, and they drink normal water, not ground water
@@almeriaalien normal water *IS* ground water
@@ihatemotionblur_3255 no no, i meant that they drank water that has been more carefully cleansed, sorry for the misunderstanding
people in the future discovering remains of jakarta : "is this Atlantis?"
LOL
Atlantis 2.0
The best comment so far
Thank you for giving me nightmares
and there's a pool attraction in ANCOL park named Atlantis Water Adventure .... imagine if they found the sign board to the place "Atlantis this way >>>" ......
Although I live in Semarang, I hope the government can get rid of this problem. Cuz if not, we'll be losing a huge territory. If Tokyo, Shanghai, Bangkok, and Taipei can do it, so can we. if, the government can grasp on and sort out their priorities right
I agree! And though Semarang continues with its problem with flooding (or.. rob) when rainy seasons, I hope we can find solutions for the flooding situation in Semarang as well.
Thank you, Vox
Hi Vox, as an Indonesian and as a former resident of Jakarta, I cannot thank you enough that you brought up this topic to your platform. I sincerely hope this will raise more awareness and encourage policymakers to take concrete actions to tackle this issue. We really do not wish Jakarta to end up becoming a real Atlantis in an ironic sense.
the video is really well done!
Yes! My home has flooded 5 times in this week.. I hope they will fix this problem soon
@@dimasf.c4373 Amen
miris juga... anies baswedan tidak pernah mengangkat isu ini...
@@dimasf.c4373 Now thats gotta be put on an yearbook quote
Jakarta : we're sinking, some people lost their homes
Government : oh no, anyway-
Shame
Oh she passed away? Aww, aww. anyways
IG kamu apa?
Hai kaka! hani
oh no, anyway lets move the capital city to borneo
If government is a single person, wait that's gonna be dictatorship
My point is u should check more into news and they actually try to do that but guess what? Plan got stuck till this day.
Yeah, blame the Dutch like always. The Dutch were able to save their entire country from sinking by concentrated tedious effort of the whole nation. Indonesia is independent since 1940s, long enough to build a pipeline system in Jakarta etc. But I guess it's easier to watch sinetrons and complain about the Dutch who left 80 years ago.
Even if we give way to your point the Dutch still have to answer for the segregation and unkept canals that caused suffering back then.
Not the Dutch people imo but the government should absolutely try and help.
We tend to wash off the sins of the occupying countries because it happened centuries ago? You must not have experienced being occupied
not even that how did the goverment see this city with problems since 1700 and think yeah that will be the best capital and then it grows 10 times larger bruh
@@stillaliveplus1forme I don't think there are significant difference on this issue whether or not dutch colonize Batavia
Imagine live in a country where water is the problem in every way
As Jakartans I'm just feel sad because foreign media are much concern about our problem rather than our government officials
This is kinda same with all of us third worlders 😂
Literally all western media.
10:54 quote "Jakarta is sinking into the sea until its goverment figures out how to provide clean, piped water for its citizens" Hey Vox, actually current governor, Mr. Anies Baswedan have plan to sell Jakarta's share stock in liquor factory (PT Delta Djakarta) and then use those money to provide public utility with piping for clean water supply. However local MP member reject that plan (from opposition party of PDIP). It's been stuck in parliament since March 2019.
The Dutch are helping Indonesia heaps, sadly most plans don't make it to reality. That the Indonesian goverment is quite incompetent to come up for all these millions of people. What government are you then!
This media source (vox) shouldn’t be taken seriously. Their only concern is pushing an agenda that the west is evil. If they actually cared, they would offer solutions, or at the very least, be honest.
So they're going to make a bird-shaped island that takes 30 years to complete (if ever undertaken), instead of giving them piped water?
Haha ikr
yes. yes they are, sadly.
Glad indonesia sinking,I hate indonesia
Ignore the troll, keeps on posting this on every thread. Also yeah, what a ridiculous idea on their part.
I dont understand why do we need a bird shaped island
I can confirm that this is a problem, and it is flooding outside my house rn.
I litterally plan to move outside if this keeps going on...
I have to say; to blame it on the Dutch empire is a little bit far fetched. They wanted independent and after 70 years the problem hasn't been solved and the canals are still not being maintained.
I bet the problem wasnt even known 70 years ago
For the Indonesian government it's convenient to have others to blame.
The truth is; if they had followed the Dutch city design model, copied their drink water supply infrastructure and water management approach, the problem wouldn't have occurred, because the aquifers would have stayed in a good condition.
Noticeable sinking started in the 1970-ies .. Thirty years after the Dutch left. Twenty years after they start covering the swamps with concrete&asphalt while emptying the aquifers beneath their feet on a massive scale.
That was when Sukarno was president; a Dutch educated civil engineer ...
Jakarta - we are sinking
Indonesia - it’s time to sink about the future
Ps, i wish all Indonesians 100% safety and healthy!
@Brandon Guergo what
Makasih or thanks in Indonesia
@@boogerbombproductions posting your self promo on a video like this for your low quality Quaker Oats video ain’t it chief
Are from China ?
Lol
@Brandon Guergo wait what???
There is no more dangerous threat to a man than himself.
begal gimana bro?
@@GG-ms4qp ??
you first
Not the rising sea level
@@GG-ms4qp Muggers?
you got my support
The impact of colonialism over the ENTIRE world is profound
It was't colonialism, it was global warming, and goverment corruption
@@nicholashsjd499 ...the video described that it was due to the stagnant water ...canal..which was made by dutch during colonialism
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Actually if Indonesia was still under Dutch rule the problem would have been fixed simply because the Dutch government can provide the appropriate funds
Hard to blame colonialism when the governments after that neglected development of a resevoir-piped water system, as well as Jakarta-centric development policies that made the city's population to skyrocket from less than 2 million in 1950, to more than 10 million today. That's higher than London today.
People: "The city is sinking!"
Them: "Let's make a birb land"
kurzgesagt in a nutshell
@@Blue-pk4ny green
they always corrupt.
masukan saja ke dalam tanah
"Why make it easy if we can make it more difficult?"
Another thing the Indonesians inherited from the Dutch: sinking land.
We did not INHERIT from Dutch. WE took our country back.
@@TonyDjohan its a joke...
@@TonyDjohan I know, it was a joke
Lol
@top.comment.god
People in ancient/past Jakarta and Mexico City: Let's build our capital in a swamp/marsh. We're sure nothing wrong is gonna happen.
Thing is, the original inhabitants of the area lived in small, low density settlements, and most likely would never have predicted that the area would one day become a massive trade hub and administrative centre.
@@kaptenlemper I doubt that even if it was a the largest city in the world, that they would be able to know that it is actually sinking
It wasn't a city when they first settled. Probably was sustainable.
Wow it’s already been a year since this video was released...so quick!
Jakarta's clean water has been privatized since 1993. There's now talks about ending the privatization.
Greed
That explains as much as the history does. Vox should have included that vital detail in this otherwise excellent report.
That's completely false, people pump their own water out of the ground. Not private companies.
@@matthijskkr Which is why we're talking about the piped water to houses... Which is what is needed for all residents to stop the sinking. Keep up.
@@matthijskkr yeah that's why it's sinking,bruh do you even know what you're talking about
Meanwhile Jakarta is being flooded right now. The timing of this video is...something.
the video is made because the flood went viral, duh
@@ibadurrohmanmusthofa7619 no it definitely wasn't specifically made for the current flood going on, it's about the rising sea level Jakarta has been dealing with for some time now
Dari kecil ampe hampir umur 30 thn emang Jakarta rajin kebanjiran.. Isu tanah turun juga udah rame dibahas sejak dekade terakhir...
Video is from 2017. 0:54
@@febrishinobu1510 not true, it said indonesia has been free from Dutch rule for over 70 years, Indonesia has been sovereign since 1949, so this vieo is from 2020 at best
Indonesia already has a plan to solve it, but the implementation is very hard. especially in the political season. Better to choose sweet promises unrealized than harsh reality.
9:33 I feel bad to realize that some projects are taking long term to complete and tend to forget its first intention. Anyway thank you for the well explanation.
TBF if they start with putting down the soil of the wings and stuff, than the essential part of the island would be done within a decade or 2. And government officials need places for their fancy houses. You think the peoples well-being is their priority? xD
The government did care, when the presidential palace got flooded as well.
They just got the capital moved by then, so it won't make any change
Heck a military airport got flooded in 2018, now that's a serious problem
yea they moved the capital and think the problem solved. but what are they doing is taking down more trees to build a new capital and more deforestation happen
The current president is the same guy who approved the failing seawall project and now he plans to move away to Borneo.
The guy just runs away from problems, makes the rich richer, and leaves the people that trusted him to suffer.
@@sephatu6521 last i know they stop the project.
I'm Indonesian, and my friend is a reporter. She was told to never report about Jakarta sinking. :/
@@arolemaprarath6615 yes praying is the only solution, so lets keep throwing trash at the river. And hope Allah fix our mistakes
@@arolemaprarath6615 but don't forget that we need to work hard as well. Allah SWT won't help us if we leave Jakarta be. Think of it as exams at school, you don't just pray and do nothing
@@nairarasyadi1972 It bothers me when people say to just trust in God. God gave us brains, and the ability to help ourselves.
@@arolemaprarath6615 ahahaha sarkastiknya wkwkwk
@@arolemaprarath6615 We should trust ourselves first, then the god may be MAYBE help us.
10:13 i'm so sad when i hear this line, that means Jakara (which is my capital city) was almost 50 years behind Tokyo.
2:41 just out of curiousity question: wont the seawater comes in when freshwater has been pumped out, leading into a bit salty water? Especially if youre close to the sea. If youre not close to the sea then the problem is clearer.
the year is 2052 and Jakarta is now called Atlantis 2.0
Correcto
facts 👌
Yep
And so will be Maldives
I thought Atlants was supposed to have been a civilised society that it woud be fit to live in. I dont see any comparison.
"It's only called a flood when your roof is below the water."
- Jakarta's Governor -
Serious? Sauce please?
mr kumis ...
whattttt 👁👄👁
another buzzerp comment
@@joerionis5902 Fauzi Bowo
Hm, are there ways to channel the water flowing into the drains in concrete-paved areas, back into the soil without upsetting the structures above?
It's really sad and depressing to lose any more land to the ocean
i'm an Indonesian myself but I didn't know the reason why Jakarta's sinking, I literally thought it's bc of the sea itself but it turns out that it's ourselves who actually made this sinking Jakarta.
Yes, as said, most Jakartans use ground water, even buildings, and that hurt aquifers below, as in the video
Jakartans and the rising sea level, that's it
Air laut naik + tanahnya turun + pemerintah nya doyan cakar cakaran = 👍👍👍👍👍
Did you missed the part is because of the Dutch
@@TNeptune85 Just because the Vox reporter said so, it does not mean that it's true.
Vox was wrong putting the blame on others. The Indonesian government had time for over 75 years to fix their water source, but ignored the problem to spend money on useless things. This is the result.
The cruel but realistic way to solve out the issue is to evacuate settlers along the sea line to another city: otherwise... Jakarta will burden all the damage loss. I feel sorry for Jakartians.
Completely agree . But is so much money in the world, why do not build small cities previous education to take conciencius abut take care it?
The Jakartan Government already tried to move them several times, but they refuse even fight the Government. You can look the news article.
The have low education and low job, they already feel comfort and near with their own boat.
Beside it also used as political tool to fight previous governor, so its policy about fixing the sealiner can't be done.
@@cnovikamaharani you can't blame them as they does need the coast to survive, that's how they can catch fish and get money to survive, the government need not to just gave them a new place to live but also a job or give enough money to live off it until they get job that they can do.
@@maddiphen2538 actually the population problem come from other places, these people choose to go to Jakarta to make more moneys and then every years the population in Jakarta continuously increase and have never been decreasing up until now.
But that IS the problem at hand. Where to does one move and fit 10 MILLION people? Thats a harder problem to solve than actually building that ridiculous eagle shaped wall.
Not just about piped water provision but the solution is also about lesser concretization of the city. Concrete is causing the same problem of flooding in so many cities.
The piped water that the govt provides might also be sourced from ground water, so that's not the end of the matter.
Mexico City faces a similar problem, except that its built on a lake and not on the sea. They have to pump water from reservoirs under the city that would have originally been lakewater, which is making the city sink year by year.
As indonesian, it hurt to know this truth and it hurt MORE when the government act like Elsa, Can hear us but won't
Rakyat nya yg keras kepala dan bodoh ujung2 nya nyalahin pemerintah. Tolol
@@kevinnathanaelhutagalung7135 Maksudnya keras kepala gimana ya ? Ga semua masyarakat keras kepala, tapi mereka tetep saja kena imbasnya. Pada akhirnya pemerintah setidaknya harus membantu ( di daerah saya sudah ada pasukan oren, bantuan pengungsian,dll menurut saya itu sudah membantu )
Stewie griffin simulator
@@kevinnathanaelhutagalung7135 maksudnya keras kepala, bodoh, dan tolol bagaimana ya? Permasalahan utama adalah pipa yang tidak difasilitasi pemerintah sehingga banyak rakyat yang harus ambil air tanah. Kalau tidak difasilitasi sama tidak ambil air tanah, air dapat darimana? Menurut saya kritik untuk pemerintah di kasus ini logis sih
@@kevinnathanaelhutagalung7135 bah pemerintah seolah2 kompeten aja, di kota gw jalan tiap hari bolong semua.... gak usah jauh2 nungguin jakarta tenggelem, mobil gw lama2 tenggelem ke lobang
Let’s build a giant bird shaped island to temporarily bandaid the problem.
What build pipes? Out of the question.
to build water pipes throughout Jakarta, they'd need a lot more money and time.
also, to free lands, to relocate the illegal residences, adding more water reservoir, finding more resources of clean water, and so on. Jakarta is just too big for its own good.
it'd be on a national level of project and it won't even finish even after 20 years... if the next president continue the project at all.
@@HenSt-gz7qj then keep sinking
Pipes for what ?
@@HenSt-gz7qj they can definitely make it if they progress it aggressively. More progress = slows the rate of sinking. Hence more time for progress.
I know I may be oversimplying things but it frustrates me that the people are letting this happen.
I mean how can this mentality still exists today. They rather waste money to build a wall for a temporary fix than actually trying to fix the root cause.
@@HenSt-gz7qj but isn't it better to have a permanent solution with a big capital cost rather than temperory solution to avoid expenses... if the government don't have enough money ask for money from countries like china or India they are good at giving loans
Brilliant content, @Vox! as always. Please dubbed into Bahasa Indonesia language so more ordinary Jakartans will be able to realize this matter. Still, thanks for the subtitles. Watching this really struck me personally. I was born and have lived in Jakarta for almost my entire life. Safe to say that Jakarta is less livable and getting more crowded over years. I think it's sadly beyond repair. wishing to move to the new proposed capital in Borneo.
Pipe water
Government: no
Bird island that take 30 years to finish
Government: *YES*
Will cost more than 40 Billion and flood too 👍
Country: has a problem Government: *automaticslly builds wall*
Reminds me of a specific foreign ex president
don't get me wrong here I'm not hating on the government I live here,
But a simple wall is a temporary fix
@@solaris53 titan wall
Reminds me of aot
@@dotdankory Trump wall
you mean america
our government always talking about something unnecessary. forgetting their own people suffering from poverty and natural disaster. what a shame
Really?
Im sorry about that
I feel you Elia that is the characteristics of my country’s government
@@hetdog7765 not all of them. remember there is always a good person
Maybe they think people in suffering can be swayed easier to gain votes?
Jakartans: We need piped water.
Government: Best I can do is a giant bird.
Average government in Asia.
I read about Indonesia changing its capital from Jakarta to a new city being built in Borneo...This is really a dire situation...I deeply hope that their would be some measure taken together by the world to prevent such a catastrophe...Indonesia is just one example, the Majuli Islands of India - which are the largest river islands in the world are facing drowning threat, the same is the case of Venice...This problem is man made and it requires a man made - united solution from the world...
If they’re willing and able to build a giant floating bird, why not just make water pipes?
That floating bird thing won't even solve the problem, it's just gonna push the water to the sides flooding other areas. Water HAS to go somewhere.
@@anudeepk7579 yup
there is a famous saying in Indonesia "if we can make it more difficult why make it easier?"
i live in jakarta all my life and i can tell you the bird city cancelled years ago. Now the strategy we adapt is develop more drainage area to contain flood and rising sea water.
I don’t know if I missed this in the video, but where does the water come from when it’s transported through pipes. Is it coming from the aquifer which would continue the problem? Or is it coming from somewhere else?
Jakarta: *sinks*
The gov who move to borneo: *a d i o s*
nice one
Wkwkwk
they’re definitely gonna move the population too.
Jakarta: KU KIRA HUBUNGAN KITA ISTIMEWA!😢😭
cabut aaaaaah
Is building water pipe system that hard and that expensive ??
We live in 2021 and this city doesn't have a watering system 😕
In 30 years the saying “There are many fish in the ocean” in Jakarta will be wrong figuratively and literally
The problem is that every change of leader the previous leader's plan is not implemented and is replaced with a new plan.
That's why we need the GBHN to become law again. That no matter the president or the cabinet, and whichever new program or policy that they implement, their performance would be publicly accountable whether or not they're progressing to meet the GBHN milestones.
Totally agree
China 🇨🇳 is showing how things get done
10:54 quote "Jakarta is sinking into the sea until its goverment figures out how to provide clean, piped water for its citizens" Hey Vox, actually current governor, Mr. Anies Baswedan have plan to sell Jakarta's share stock in liquor factory (PT Delta Djakarta) and then use those money to provide public utility with piping for clean water supply. However local MP member reject that plan (from opposition party of PDIP). It's been stuck in parliament since March 2019.
Jakarta: Sinking
Governor: Lets paint roofs.
At least make them awesome....it looked like an elementary kid's art project... but I get it the workers must have had a hard time doing that.
@@glabhinnara FRR, ITS ALL COLOURFUL AND IT LOOKS SO TACKY AND TASTELESS LOOKING, MY LITTLE SISTER COULD DO A BETTER JOB
@@tanzen1020 IKR? what even is value, composition etc. Just slap those sickening neon colors and call it "instagrammable art" smh.
:O
tru ;v
Very interesting, from Dutch raking batavua didn't even think that the city is sinking for many years
We need more floating cities like in the movie Water World.
I am hearing about a problem that has not been created by the British. Amazing.
😂😂I’m british and this made me chuckle
I am dutch and these abuses made me shiver
@@msmit3669 I don’t think he said it was their fault? I think he said that because Netherlands is under sea level.
Still by Europeans..
@@msmit3669 It's all the Dutch, and locals/Jakartans fault. All of them
this breaks my heart
Ow... perlu dicheck kesana.. (Muara Baru), thanks VOX