Old C64 vs New C64 experience.
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
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In this video I’m going to talk about the C64 from Retro Games Ltd, the re-born c64 allowing you to enjoy all of your favourite c64 games on a more modern game console, yet looking almost exactly the same as the original one. I am going to be comparing it with having an original c64 setup, what the differences are and what my feelings towards this new console is.
This is not going to be an indepth-review, as there are many other videos out there that have talked a about that extensively, but rather zooming in on the differences when comparing it with an original c64.
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You just can't beat the old C64 with the smell of burning plastic of the transformer heating up powering the system. The tape deck loading and getting excited while watching the loading music and graphics.
...and if you did have the cassette drive, having hours to enjoy the load graphics, only for a load error to occur and getting the chance to do it all again! Good times!
That short moment Boulder Dash was to seen on the screen got me,great content mate, subbed !
It's nice to see that your young daughter actually finds interest in the breadbin.
It makes me smile eben more than the full size THE C64 😁
Love to see how your family is also supporting your hobby!
Best feature of the "MAXI" is that it comes with built-in option to function as a VIC-20.
Never had a vic-20 when I was young and don’t know that much about it. Did pick up a boxed one the other day for 20 EUR so that was nice. Will need to look into it.
@Chef Mike Rowave The reason they didn't is probably because the keyboard setup was very different on those systems.
Parenting done right! Your wife is also a star for getting you the unit for your birthday! Happy Birthday, keep up the awesome content.
She sure is ! Thx for the nice comment and she wants me to let you know she appreciates the comment also
Ugh.. I wish we never got rid of our c64 setup. We had everything. 1541 disk drive, datasette, a printer which may have been from a c16 because it was black. Lots of software on disk too. I didn’t have a monitor though. The display device was a huge mid ‘80’s 21” TV. Then we got a PC...
Yeah it’s nice to have the complete set. Have a couple of them. Were sitting in boxes for a long time cause I didn’t want to deal with the hassle of finding cables, hooking up television sets, dealing with failures. Funny because this new c64 made we wanna dug them back up and deal with them :) its fun to have the experience once, but not something I want to deal with on a daily basis. Making a video on it is good enough for me. If I get nostalgic I can watch that :) but will keep 1 complete unit just in case :)
Ha! Awesome. I am very pleased you're educating our youth *CORRECTLY* :) Humour aside.. it's great that they get some of the experience we had. Good on you.
I feel like this replica is extremely overlooked. Why I haven't heard of this but only the other crazy expensive options. For such a low price, the fact you can also do programming on it and essentially develop your own games out of the box and save/side load games using memory card is make it a relatively cheap and unique game console and computer alternative that also can be used for educational purposes. I feel like there is still a market today for a home computer like this at this price but it is advertised only to retro computer enthusiasts and the crazy price of other replicas make people ignore it completely. Sure kids today want a Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox, iPad but they would certainly have some fun family time with something like this especially if you want to introduce your kids to programming.
The way your daughter holds the joystick.... Amazing!
10:58 There were several variations of the Competition Pro joystick, and all the ones I've seen (four or five different ones) did have microswitches, and very nice ones, too, with short travel, a light click and very little resistance in the stick. Only the fire buttons had leaf switches.
Ahhhh the Commodore 64. Soooooooooo much fun when I was a kid (my first computer).
Nice to see your little one make an appearance - and that she is ENJOYING the C64! :)
I've a few original C64's too but it's always worth adding a modern version to my collection so I've just ordered myself one..great video as usual 😀
Thx a lot, appreciate it !
Would you sell an original commodore 64 please?
It’s actually a big benefit that they made the power button as is, because when it’s put on, the button works as the menu button of the joystick.
I’m a new subscriber and I have really enjoyed your videos. Your PC knowledge is incredible and your videos are so relaxing to watch.
hehe cool ... thanks a lot for the kind comment ! Enjoy ....
It’s a nice recreation. I’ve got the mini version and an original unit with a 1541-mark 2. It appears that the joystick is made from the same moulding as the C64 DTV that was released about 15 years ago which was created by Jeri Ellsworth. The suzo arcade is my favorite “bomb proof” joystick as it’s made of reinforced concrete! 😄 It’s unbreakable.
I have document files on floppy disks using Easy script (& the 1541 Disk Drive) from my original Commodore 64. How might I retrieve those files and transfer the data to a modern computer (microsoft word). Or if that fails to otherwise print out those files at letter quality and speed ?
I'd always heard that the European power supplies were more reliable than the American ones. Usually it's the US ones people talk about frying the system.
Most people here in the US had floppy drives. I actually had a cassette drive for the first year that I owned my C64. Very little software was available on tape here and the one commercial game I did have, Zaxxon, took forever to load. Floppy disks weren't especially fast either, but most people had some kind of cartridge to speed up the loading of single files and make disk commands easier to use. In the later years, companies started using disk turbo routines that could load a game in seconds.
I'm curious though, when you load a game from USB, does the new C64 let you use save states, or is that only for the built-in games?
BTW, people should be aware that you can buy cartridges for a real C64 that will let you load games off an SD card, so while it may not have built-in games, you can do essentially the same thing with a real C64. In fact, in some ways the 1541 Ultimate devices have even more capabilities than the new C64.
I had the tape deck ( a slightly smaller and more rounded version than the one in the video), I am sure my power pack was a black square box ( with cooling fins) type thing too 👍
I live in the UK.
I have never seen a power strip like yours. Why does each outlet have a protruding prong?
good video. Did it get demonetized due to the carousel music from the C64?
I started learning BASIC on the original Commodore 64 when 1st came out!😊
The better way to learn code. BASIC was a basic language but it was a real programing language ! Great memories. :)
@@ggousier yes! color computer 2 BASIC was just as interesting😎the good old days..had cassette recorder to save my data😁
@@bxpress6507 And now when you tell that to yours kids... They say, WTF dad ! LOL
I remember Commodore BASIC was considered inferior to other versions of the language, not sure why.
I started on a ZX81, then a VIC-20 for a couple of years before upgrading to a C-64.
@@MrJonno85 yes you are right..I learned BASIC on the commodore 64, TRS-80 Model 2 and TRS-80 color computer 2 and had some differences..coding for the color computer 2 was challenging to make the graphics just right
Does theC64 full size load tape image files like a real C64 would (loading screens and music etc)??
You forgot one more joystick model on the original: The one from the Atari 2800. That is the one I used forever until I bought a Quickshot. That Atari Joystick could survive atomic blasts and 100 meter dash in Summer Games! :) Definitely a super sturdy joystick. For anyone wondering, the original C-64 didn't come with a joystick included... you had to supply your own.
Chazer 2800?
@@patsfan4life Haven't you heard? It is the better version of the 2600! (It was obviously a typo :) )
Great review / comparison!!
My kids are also into retro computing - a good game is still a good game 40 yrs later!
Also like your cassette / dataset! I haven’t seen that model before!
Does this have a SID chip for sound like the original?
Thanks for this review. I got The C64 on my bday and enjoy it a lot. Even modern demos run fine (with accurate disk drive emulation), line "X marks the spot" with a nice Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack.
But I also have the impression, that joystick input lag is much higher than on the original C64.
Did Commodore make a joystick? Was it any good? I always used my Atari 2600 joystick.
What sound chip is inside the new release? SID?
4:50 So, no option to route the sound separately from HDMI?
Nope. No analog audio jack or other audio output other than over HDMI. You could get an HDMI audio breakout box for about 20 EUR-ish? I haven't yet tried one of those USB audio adapters (the ones that have at least an audio out and maybe also a mic in) to see if they work.
Cool that your daughter also enjoys the games! :)
For some reason she enjoys pit stop :) first showed it to her on my original breadbin c64.
@@RetroSpector78 Maybe she can start doing retro game reviews
Can you get audio other then via HDMI? I have a HDIM to DVI converter and would like to use it with older 4/3 LCD.
No... audio via hdmi only. You’ll need a splitter
@@RetroSpector78 thanx. I'll try to find one.
Ok it's 10$ not a big problem.
Somebody has to say it; the new one is actually not called Commodire 64, but C64. Retro Games does not have the rights to the Commodore name, that's why it doesn't have any commodore logos or other things saying Commodore.
Otherwise great video!
You are absolutely right. Noticed I was using the name wrong on some occasions when it was too late. Will pay more close attention next time. Still glad you enjoyed it .
I have the original monitor. Now that the format is HDMI, how would I install the new version to my original monitor?
May have missed it in video, but does it accept firmware update to add any software?
Using a thumbdrive you can add your own games, and when retro games releases new firmware you can put in on a thumbdrive and use the UI to apply the firmware update. You cannot put your own firmware on the device. I assume it will be rather closed.
Nice to see a C64 Video from you! More of that please! :-)
Greetings, Doc64!
Doktor64 stay tuned .... too much stuff to cover still ... but c64 and amiga is on the list for 2020.
Does the base video output / menu support 4:3? I've noticed you're using it on a 16:9 screen.
yeah you can set different screen options. Pixel perfect, Pixel perfect CRT, 4:3 , 4:3 crt, ...
@@RetroSpector78 Nice! Thanks for answering.
Very nice device. The joystick is still a worry...
And it would've been nice if the new device could use at least SOME of the original accessories (cartridge port seems the most obvious choice) - though it's understandable why it doesn't.
Overall an impressive way of reviving and old system.
Sure it's emulation under the hood...
But never underestimate replicating the physical experience of old systems.
And while for old consoles that mostly means replicating the controller (part of the appeal of 'mini' consoles over pure emulation), for an old computer, replicating the keyboard especially also matters.
I agree with all of your statements. TheC64 from Retro Games is really well done and gives us that playing experience from the good old days back. Only thing is, you can’t use cassettes, floppys and modules for me personally not that important to wait for loading a game…). But there is one more things you didn’t discuss in this video: The original BASIC mode in this new C64: I even programmed a whole game in BASIC last christmas on my TheC64. And it worked very well, even all the peeks and pokes for sound and color changes and so on. My game worked and showed even more, how compatible the new THEC64 is to the old machine. I love my The C64, giving me also the programming experience from the old days back. Thank you for your good comparison (except the BASIC mode) and your good work with this video.
OMG! Lot of years passed, but I never forgot to put floppy disks far from CRT !! You did :) Love your videos, thanks and pls do more! Cheers, M
I thought exactly that! Although it was a great video!
A great video thank you very much. It was a great comparison and great to see how faithfully they kept to the original.
Thx a lot. Glad you liked it !
@@RetroSpector78 I did thank you, and it was great to see the next generation of fandom there too 🙂👍🏻 All the best RetroSpector
A small question - you almost hooked it up to a monitor, have you tried to plug in a USB sound device? I don't know if they are standard enough that the c64 could support them - but I also have not come across any reviews that posed the question... Likewise, do you have some experience on using other USB controllers with it?
I have 2 monitors (4:3) I can use. Makes me angry you can’t do that. How hard would it have been to include a headphone jack for pc speakers out so you could use it like a computer instead of a game console. STUPID.
@@jeromewink557 Probably has no analogue audio path whatsoever, so it would have required extra components.
What you both need is a HDMI audio splitter.
They're pretty cheap.
They work well enough as long as the system isn't enabling HDCP (and why would it?)
KuraIthys looked in to that
1 more cost
2 could not tell if something like that would add any significant lag.
I don’t know much about fcpga’S.
Wish one of these reviewers that mike to hack things would at least take a look but they don’t. They just drool over it.
I do actually want to set it up on an old desk and use the monitors I have as recapping my real commodore, getting a power supply and buying a SD floppy drive and one of the all in one carts adds up to hundreds.
Can you do a side by side comparison of the same game from the old and new systems
Nice video. And it's nice that your daughter finds interest in th C64. My son unfortunately doesn't. Even though he likes gaming.
How well does The C64 compare to using emulators when playing games? Does it have any advantage?
You keep saying the new 'Commodore' 64, do you see that written on that device?
Think I started out saying the new C64 but then the commodore started slipping in .... I understand they don't have the rights to use the Commodore name but have some kind of licensing deal with a company to use the ROMs / Bios / Kernel of the original C64. But just by looking at it it becomes hard not to call it the new commodore 64 :) Honest mistake ...
@@RetroSpector78 It's okay, I came back to edit my comment because thought I may have sounded rude, I didn't mean to be. I always enjoy all your videos. I am sorry and I understand, I make more mistakes than everyone I know. Great review by the way.
Raul Gajadhar no worries man ! Was not offended at all :)
Where do I order one from ?
Nice, but not enough. What is the operating system? How do I get a Commodore 64 programme from tape to a flash-drive? Is it possible to make a programme on the New C64 and store it? A few questions not answered.
will try to do a follow-up.
Nice video :-) And it's really neat that you can use this C64 for basic programming, and also assembly language as well. It seems to be a very well emulated system, such that when using is virtually identical to the original... and even has a VIC 20 built-in as well..!! It's a very clever computer, and brilliant for retro gaming ;-)
I remember wishing desperately in my early teens that my Commodore 64 joystick had two different firebuttons. This would’ve made Commando a much better experience then when I had to launch grenades with my toes on the space bar.
Who knew that game controllers would eventually expand to include twelve buttons (two of them analog) and two thumbsticks?
Here in USA still waiting for C64 Maxi. ;) Thanks for the video. Enjoyed it.
Just got the Amiga 500 mini its like stepping back into the 80s ..cool post m8
Another great video, thanks!
I've been debating getting one of these... I have an original breadbin with accessories in storage, but it is such a hassle to hook it up, and even then, the image quality is atrocious on a modern TV.
That’s one of the things I like about this ... plug and play, usb and hdmi ... unless you got the space for a permanent commodore shrine, its hard to beat an easy setup like this.
Waiting and hoping they rerelease it with audio.
The C64 Maxi is really the best thing happened to retrogaming in the last years
Does the new c64 have basic included?
semi borba yes it does.
Hello Sir, congrats for your birthday. A big thumbs up for your daughter.. She is enjoying such an old machine, not all hope on the youth is lost...
Is it an 8bit or 16 bit processor?
Thank you, it was fun to watch👍✌
still have my VIC 20 and the C 64 with drive!
Lucky man ! I sold all my old micro computer. :( I sold my C64 to buy an Amiga 500 then i sold the Amiga to buy... a SNES ^^ and every time i sold the previous to buy the next one.
picked up a boxed vic20 for 20 EURs a couple of months ago
Did you take a look at the VIC-20 mode in this machine?
I know the new machine is so much easier to use but I can't help myself and I always prefer the original hardware. Part of the experience is the mess of wires and accessories :)
Always good to see the next generation taking interest in these old machines (or new old machines, you know what I mean). My kids get plenty of enjoyment out of my collection too, I just wish I could get my wife to buy me the hardware!
Not really ... never had a vic 20 so don’t have a lot of nostalgia for it ... but might do a followup. Also have a nice original boxed vic20. But don’t know that much about it at the moment.
iv got my young kids 7 and younger years old the real Commadore 64 and zx spectrums amstrad ect as it learns them something they never get chance to learn in this modern day, patience, and they really do need to learn that, or they will fail in life in years to come
Couple fast questions:
1. What joysticks are compatible?
2. How to change (virtually) game port?
3. How to use multi disc games?
The Last Ninja 1&2 Target Renagade, Hawkeye, Way of the Exploding Fist, Kung Fu Master, Rambo, Impossible Mission 2 and Robocop I loved playing in the late 80s ❤️
Another Great Video Thank You
One thing that does not work like the real Commodore 64 is the Shift/Lock key. Does not lock. No biggie, but I am sure they could of included a locking key. Just sayin'
All comes down to cost I guess ... extra component, different key ... and like you said not a deal breaker for most of us. Same with the power button ... rocker switch is more expensive than a simple push button, while at the same time a push button offers more functionality (long press / single press / .....)
Actually, it's pretty hard to get a locking key nowadays. 8-bit guy had the same problem in his last video, and they decided to use a simple key and some circuitry instead.
Replace the stick screw altogether. I got my thec64 yesterday and on 2nd time opening the stick the screw broke. Had to dremel it out.
Very nice video review.
Can I save a basic program to usb using this?
Yes, you either use the 4 slots on the c64 itself to save state (including basic listings), or you can save it on a special folder on your usb thumbdrive.
@@RetroSpector78 thanks for the reply and the info. 👍
What happened to the 1541? Mains filter blown?
Tantalum capacitor .... expect a video on it soon :) the initial puff of smoke was pretty dramatic actually, coming out of the front of the disk drive, but was too late to pick up my camera for it, so you got the weak aftermath of it :)
What CPU hardware is it built on? An ARM chip, perhaps? Even a Raspberry π? Because you need something more than a 6502 to run that fancy HD GUI menu.
from what I've seen in other videos it's a custom ARM chip based system.
Very similar kind of design as most of the other Mini consoles released in recent times (like the Nintendo ones).
Basically near identical to the 'mini c64' as well, just with updated software, more USB ports and a connector for a physical keyboard.
Don't know the exact ARM chip used, but it runs at a few hundred mhz..
@@KuraIthys Presumably running Linux, then. Using VICE as the emulator?
The Quick Shot 2 Joystick is the best Joystick, he is undestroyable.
My Set:
C64II
Datasette
Floppy 1541-II
2x Quick Shot II
President Printer
Reset Modul
GeOS Modul
aitammatia do u know if there is a quick shot 2 joystick available for c64mini (or maxi)...the one u get it’s useless junk comparing to QS2...
I also got the Maxi some weeks ago, and although it is well made, I just haven’t warmed to it. It is pretty much just ARM computer running with slightly modified VICE. It is much more restricted than something built on RPi and for example I had problems getting it to show picture on two of my computer monitors, because the thing apparently needs specific EDID signals. It works fine with my 4k OLED telly, though. And the joystick. Although it is improvement over the mini, it is still imo quite crappy and real Competition Pro (I have one modern USB version) is lightyears better.
I have been fiddling with Amstrad CPC 6128 I recently got for the past week or so. It has a Gotek with flashfloppy, which makes life much easier, compared to using those 3” floppies. I also use OSSC, so it is possible to have the picture converted to HDMI without distortions or delays. Of course everything doesn’t work correctly on flatscreens as some games and demos employ CRT specific tricks for scrolling etc., but 99% does work beautifully. OSSC also syncs to new resolutions faster than my monitor. It is a terrific piece of equipment.
With real hardware, everything works 100% as it should and with Amstrad, I am able to add several aftermarket hobbyist addons, such as M4 board (which offers wifi, for example), speech and sound synthesitators, other operating systems and so on. Also, these old systems being a little fiddly is just part of the charm :)
For a lot of people it is not really worth the hassle of setting everything up ... the space you need for a permanent setup, the amount if cables / peripherals / .... can be a bit daunting... even for me, had lots of c64 machines and stuff in boxes and always felt a bit reluctant to set them up, despite the fact they were a big part of my childhood. Guess at some point you reach a certain age where you just need something that works, doesn’t need a lot of cables, and can be easily moved. Perhaps once I have some more space to permanently display something my mind will change :) for the moment I enjoy them, but getting tired of getting them in / out of storage.
I hear you man. I'm so glad this thing exists and people are enjoying it, but for me it's no better than an emulator.
@@RetroSpector78 Yes, it is convenient system, but in the end doesn't differ from a solution based on Raspberry Pi. And the latter offers much more options and flexibility, like better controller support and emulating anything from dosbox to n64. Pi4 apparently handles Dreamcast as well. TheC64 is mostly just a cool package with less performance.
Yes, RPi emulation box needs a bit setup, and isn't a plug and play type of thing like TheC64, but it is really simple in the end, especially if you go with ready images.
The way I see TheC64, and mini consoles in general, is that they are products for "casuals" and offer a glimpse to what you can do with real hardware or to retro hobby in general, emulated or otherwise. My main hope is that products like these bring new people to the hobby to maintain the hardware, software and legacy of these great machines. Maybe there is some future C64 demoscene wizard among one one of the TheC64 buyers...
Charlie Foxtrot the thing is you’re probably not the target market for these things. People who already have access to actual C64s sometimes leave these comments around the net, or sometimes it’s Americans saying things like “Spend $50 in a thrift store and you can get the real thing!” But this doesn’t hold true everywhere. There are loads of people like myself, 40-ish, who will happily pay $200;and tinker around with this new machine, and enjoy all the benefits - modern, available, reliable, low power, no risk of smoking or fire, all games available on a single USB, literally no additional hardware needed. It really does a great job. I would NEVER invest in a real machine because they’re just not available or cheap in Australia. So this new one has already given me a solid week of text adventures, Elite and some mad games of Colossus Chess 4.0. I absolutely love it! In fact I just bought an old CRT tv to improve the nostalgia feels.
@@MiscName "Americans saying things like “Spend $50 in a thrift store and you can get the real thing!” Please don't even start with that BS!!, I'm American, and I go thriting fairly often, and in my neck of woods here in the southeastern US I've not seen anything Commodore for at least the past 20 years, as a lot of places won't take that stuff in any longer for whatever reason, and people here are also holding onto their stuff, or if they do sell it, they are wanting an arm, and a leg on eBay even for broken junk.
Love the old games and the c64 music.
Happy birthday! If there is a maxi, in my mind it is the original Commodore 64, or perhaps the C128. This new C64 looks nice, and I will probably get one, but I'd rather have the real thing, the real Maxi. ;)
Thx a lot ! I like the convenience factor. The fact that I can store this in a bedroom / living room, hook it up to a television set and actually use it. I think a lot of retro collectors don’t have the space to setup a real original c64 setup on a permanent basis.
@@RetroSpector78 I agree that it's a great thing. My only thought is that I wouldn't call it the Maxi. ;)
I've had mine for a couple of months and I love it, but it's starting to crash, lock up and switch off by itself. Also the joystick has gotten really loose and will stick in the up position. I still love it.
I think it was just a dodgy power supply. I plugged it in a mobile phone charger and it stopped playing up. When I use the supply that came with it, it switches off every few minutes.
@@rossdtool I think it's better to use a good branded PSU from Samsung, Xiaomi whatever etc from tons of old phones than generic no brand cheap PSU. I have an old Samsung 5V ready for my c64 Maxi arriving soon. :)
It's very cool and appealing although I would prefer it had a 3.5mm audio plug so that PC speakers can be used with a monitor. Maybe that's a future mod? Cheers
Given what's inside I wouldn't count on it.
HDMI is digital audio.
There probably isn't an analogue audio path on the device.
Your best bet is to pick up a hdmi audio splitter - they're not very expensive and work fine as long as HDCP isn't active (and really, why would a device like this use encrypted HDMI output? )
Thank you. Information that will be useful I'm sure.
something like this would work providing component, and RCA audio, then you could get an RCA to 3.5 mm adapter.
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Really nice, i hope to have a family which supports me as well one day
Hi
I have an original C64 in my dorm room :3 i already got av cables and i bought a psu (not gonna risk making one myself), so i can’t wait to use it :)
Did you get one of those new psu’s ?
RetroSpector78 yep, one from Electroware / C64PSU
May you have many nights of staying up late with Jupiter Lander.
I just powered up an original C64 in the original box. It works! -- sending it to the land of Ebay this week.
French power sockets? Where are you from my friend? I love the depth of the review here. Right down to some ITT tech style electronics tech testing lol! Em.. as a musician, the new C64 does not look to allow music and midi apps to be used? That is the deal breaker right there. I want my sid chip to be used, manipulated and abused..midi music production wise that is! :-D
hehe ... no SID chip there .... and the power sockets are in Belgium :)
@@RetroSpector78 Doh! No C64 remake for me then.. But Belgium?! Nice! And to think, today I had me a nice breakfast with Belgian Waffle with dulce de leche, raspberry preserves, and yogurt. Merci!
What is hardware? Inside, emulating?
Yes. Arm based running on Linux with emulator software
An old version of Vice.
Okurka vice-emu.sourceforge.net/ thanks
Is this thing available in the States yet?
I'm not seeing any US / Canada retailers on their site (only for the c64mini). So don't think so.
@@RetroSpector78 Didn't think so. There's been no say on when it's coming to the western hemisphere, just Europe's release date.
Anybody remember sticking a bent paperclip in one of the ports on the back to reset it then type in some sys number?
I wish more content creators would do follow ups on the joystick, which is a big problem. RetroGames needs some pressure put on them.
For me, the buttons began sticking and then the stick itself began sticking. After that I noticed the sheath coming off the cable. All of this was with light use at a desk.
It seems most people who use this machine on a regular basis end up replacing the controller with a Speedlink Competition Pro. Personally, I went with a Logitech F710.
A lot of things about TheC64 are excellent, but the controller isn’t one of them.
Might do a follow up on that, as I am also thinking about picking up an alternative joystick. Seems to be a difficult item to produce indeed. I know lots of people who buy those c64 units, play with it for a couple of days, and then never look at it again. Had the same with the mini (crappy joystick, some lag in the games, no keyboard). This one is definitely an improvement, so wonder if it will have the same life and attention span as the nintendo mini in our living room.
@@RetroSpector78 I've had mine for nearly a month and I haven't tired of it yet. I'm wagering I spend about 2 hours playing it every night.
What's really been pulling me in is discovering all of the new titles that have been released in the past decade or so.
Hey that’s awesome! Love this!
Good job. You gave a balanced assessment.
I love my old c64, but waiting until a game is loaded is very old fashioned and annoying if it doesn't work after x minutes, curious for this, unfortunately my birthday is in August, far far away :)
Hooking up a sd2iec device to load games from sd cards + a fastloader to speed up load times also do wonders on an original c64
This new c64 use the 68k Motorola cpu?
I am waiting for a new C64C. The bread bin is not the C64 I used.
You might be right about most people only being interested in the games. But, I sincerely doubt I'll spend any time there and have configured mine to boot to Classic mode. I didn't buy it as a game machine. It's actually a computer.
I heartily recommend Barbarian, Uridium, Terra Cresta, Arkanoid, Ghosts n Goblins, as 5 must have titles, if you are new to the 64, with its 🤩 ng SID sound chip. Diagonals can be tough to pull off on gamepads though, so a usb to retro controller adaptor is a better choice. If you can get your paws on a Speedking joystick, I recommend it. Happy gaming.🎉
This is a great replica.. though I wish they had put in the original serial/disk drive port into this replica,so I could use my real C1541 disk drives. Or maybe they could come out with an accessory adapter, say USB-to-DIN-serial port? That would be cool.
Erm why does the new C64 have a keyboard if you control everything with the joystick ? Or can you run Basic on it as well ?
Yes, and also in games you can use the keyboard. For the carrousel it more convenient to use the joystick as you’ll typically be further away from the keyboard
Yep. Games can (and do) support using the keyboard and running Basic is also an option, thus making the keyboard very useful indeed...
It would have been nice to at least show the inside of the device, although we all probably know that it's just an ARM-based SoC running an emulation.
I used an Atari 2600 joystick on my old C64.
Will Dwyer me too, went through a lot of them
wait ... she didn't care about the lack of stereo sound?
just a moment ... she don't care about the graphics neither? Or the fact of not having 3 hundred gigabytes of RAM in the video card?
I guess that for a child a game is a game.. right?
She's pretty cool about it .... that and the fact the she enjoys spending time with her cool dad obviously :)
at 12:22 I see the box packaging with French language text above the bottom one I already know that is cool and awesome and I hear a light french accent ?
I am Dutch actually .... don't speak French all that often except very occasionally at work. I used to work in Brussels where I had a lot more opportunity to speak French.
@@RetroSpector78 oh I was close enough I guessed french but I misunderstood that as a french accent but you are Dutch ok then that's fine I was stumped
Opened my joystick as it didn't work properly, found that same screw lose. guess some one at the assembly is a sleep. :-)
Mine locks up when I pull down or left. What was wrong with yours?
Karl Sebastian Sollenhag fumny had mine lockup pulling down. Opened up the stick and tightened the screw. Didn’t help as de microswitch got stuck. Added a tiny bit of oil to it. And now ik works like a charm.
The TAC-2 was the most popular joystick here in Sweden.
I'll keep waiting for the C64c. Why do we only ever get remakes of the breadbox? :(
It’s the design everybody associates the c64 with I guess .... not sure they will create it.
@@RetroSpector78 Not everybody. The one advantage of joining the C64 fad late was your machine looked like a star destroyer! Not to worry. I'm glad you're enjoying the remake!
I've seen this in stores, and the color seems a lot different. I'm in Europe as well.