Wait, Minecraft Bedrock Edition Is Now BETTER Then JAVA???
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Minecraft bedrock edition for the longest time has had a bad reputation in the minecraft community. It's many good features were frequently overshadowed by the marketplace, and looking past that, bedrock is actually really solid. So, is bedrock better then java now?
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0:00 - Intro
0:55 - What Is Minecraft Bedrock Edition?
2:23 - Game Performance
4:20 - Server Performance
7:04 - Friends System/Cross Platform Play
8:19 - Marketplace/Bedrock Downsides
10:18 - So Which Version Is Better?
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Ok
No.
than*
LMAO JAVA STILL WON
Okaay
The only thing I need in bedrock edition is the ability to hold anything in the offhand
agreed
Lol yeah
Ypu can hold maps and shiled and arrows
@@frog2226 he said "anything"
I need an actual pause in single player, like any other game
One more thing about the Marketplace: They have a HUGE issue with quality control.
this is so true
They need a system for that
@@whiterabbit9341 your profile picture is on xbox profile pic settings
Just dont use it
@Explorek download skins and maps and behaviour packs and texture packs
What a lot of people fail to mention about bedrock is that you don’t *have* to use the marketplace. Lots of places, like mcpedl, have metric tons of content available for free! You can play the game mostly the same without even touching the marketplace button.
Edit: y’all please stop replying to this comment it’s seven months old
I mean yes but compare that to java where you literally have infinite mods with infinite possibilities, everything for free, its true, you can play without the marketplace and even download modifications through other methods, but when compared to java’s accessibility to mods bedrocks struggles to compete
@@vicentescangarelli2361 it does not
@@bunwastaken it does, i never played java but I wish I could
@@vicentescangarelli2361 it is a bad sign when you need to mod a game to have any sort of fun... you know that right?
@@JNun-pr8rh Except if you actually read what he said, he did not state that you have to mod the game at all to have fun with it. The current mod content available to Java is objectively superior to everything Bedrock's has to offer, even with it's own addons. If your plan is to play Minecraft completely vanilla, then Bedrock is the better way to go but is still fun on both. However, if you want to expand into modding your game, Bedrock is vastly inferior. Nearly everything Bedrock has to offer can be recreated and implemented into Java, albeit in it's own way or close enough. Whereas the other way around is virtually impossible at the moment.
However if at any time, somehow someway, Java mods are able to be ported/implemented to Bedrock, then and only then will it become the #1 way to play.
One thing to remember about the bedrock marketplace though is that even though it means you have to buy things that java gets for free, you can still get things free from third party websites just like how it works on java. In fact, mojang supports third party mods on bedrock even MORE as bedrock has a whole 'addon' system that makes modding easier
Yeah it's really weird how openly accepting they are of third party stuff when they lose money from it. Maybe cause it's a draw to use bedrock more and thus more spending on bedrock itself
Xbox players: yeah, let's download add-ons 💀😐
@@DishonorableMentions452you can make a mc bedrock skin with ad ons on a pc once and thats it. You can now play on xbox with your new skin cause mc bedrock is on pc too and you share the account.
@ipostanimation Xbox players : yeah bedrock sucks let's play java using our Xbox
Is this what you want them to say??
@@DishonorableMentions452 not anymore! Addons are now in the marketplace. Sure, lots will be paid for, but that’s up to the creators, not Mojang. You should be happy creators are getting money for what they’ve made.
i just wish the two versions' best qualities could be combined into one ultimate chad of a game
They say mojang is pure good but it's not it's all bout money so it's the b.ch
@@gecko.8338 Play EA games
Then complain
@@tishaak2800 I have already played lots of their games like anthem battlefield games all of them are kinda p2w but not as mc editions
It would demand a pc which most PPL don't have
@@gecko.8338 If minecraft is more p2w than EA games then something Just aint right
All I want is banner on shields, off hand usage, spectator and hardcore, and a few other lil features such as banners on maps and map corners.
Consistent redstone would also be nice
@@TX20 better idea: mojang should intentionally make an error on the redstone's code so it will be like java redstone (because after all, the redstone in java is not like bedrock because of a bug)
And the /locatebiome
Why do you need hardcore all you got to do is set it to hard mode and when/if you die you delete the world as simple as that
@@primex8779 Yeah, you're right. But it's for bedrock be more like Java
Java as a programming language was specifically designed to allow code to run on a variety of devices and platforms without needing to modify code, but Java Edition Minecraft is only playable using the Java Launcher on Windows PCs.
Meanwhile, Bedrock is written in C++, which means it’s a compiled program, and thus restricted to whatever platforms it is was specifically coded for.
But Bedrock is natively playable on PCs, consoles and mobile devices WITH crossplay.
But it sadly isn't playable on Linux and MacOS unlike Java edition...
As a Linux user this is a downside of Bedrock.
@@kimbanton4398wdym I play bedrock on Linux
@@Spiderjepo How?
6:00 It should be noted that it makes a huge difference for the engine's code. The engine has to communiate with the OS' kernel/the hardware, and you can do this more efficient in system languages like C and C++ rather than Java. Especially Java has a lot of Just-In-Time compilation overhead due to the JVM, while Ahead-of-Time compiled, it's already the machine code that the CPU executes.
You can however use JIT-compiled languages for things like an NPC's movement script as the engine basically just reads a file that states what to do. It's up to the engine how it will do it.
IIRC Roblox embeds Lua, a JIT compiled language, into their game for custom games.
I think this is also how Unity works, because the actual engine is written in C++, but it ships with Mono so that you can make scripts in C#.
Hey! I'm a bedrock player and creator for resource packs + addons and I thought I should clarify some things.
1. Max render distance is dependent on the device you are playing on. For you it may be 64, I may have 32. Something fun with this is that you can do is turn up your render distance in the game files even further.
2. Although behaviour packs allow editing behaviours of vanilla entities the system has moved on a lot since then. We can now create custom entities, custom items and custom blocks as well as actual scripting being added to them allowing for complex mechanics to be created. Additionally, vanilla resource packs on bedrock are way more powerful than vanilla java packs allowing for custom UI to be added, custom entity models without optifine or any other modifications and the ability to change them based on a wide variety of things such as health, walking speed or even if you're breeding them or not.
3. Despite having the marketplace we can still import content into the game. We also have dedicated file extentions .mcpack, .mcaddon and a few more. With these there's no copying into the minecraft folder, it just imports directly into the game.
Overall, great video, really highlighted the differences in the game.
In java, what u said about render distance also is how optifine render distance works, (depends on your allocated ram) and also can be changed on the game files
fun fact: the render distance depends on the ram the device has available
@@Kukaa Yes, but as you have said, it is in a modofied version of the game.
Recently, (a few months back) I don’t know why but on the Xbox 1S, the render distance got way worse from just one bug fix. It used to be I’d guess around 20something chunks but it’s now maximum 16 chunks. Compared to my iPhone 11 which is around 32 is just disgusting.
@@ks_00_sk this is because the mobile version of the game uses a different rendering engine that is currently better at performance in some areas. It also allowed for shaders in this old system. It was a huge disappointment to many members of the bedrock community who don’t have the ability to support the new ray tracing when they received a performance drop and lost shaders. Shaders were very performant compared to their Java counterpart. The new rendering engine “render dragon” needed for ray tracing is expected to come to mobile in the near future (not ray tracing though). Hopefully render dragon will receive a bit of a performance upgrade and (fingers crossed) shaders too.
Just a slight correction: Java's slowness doesn't come mostly from the fact that it is JIT compiled, but from the fact that it forces the programmer to allocate all objects on the heap which ruins cache locality, while C++ doesn't.
Add on top of this the fact that the Java edition is using old and outdated threading model and you end up with a trashy Java implementation whereas bedrock fixed this design issue (not completely - at all - but still, the pool is nice to see for the chunks)
you just tell us what this stuff means instead of throwing it right at us
MINECRAFT C++ EDITION
@@joechristo2 Sure thing. Most programming languages allow you to define custom types. A type is simply an attribute of data that tells the compiler how the programmer would like to use said data. For example, you can define a type called "Point" that consists of an x-coordinate and a y-coordinate.
There are two places in which you can store data in a program's computer memory: The stack and the heap. The stack is where local variables go. If a new variable is declared it is pushed on the stack and once it goes out of scope again (typically when the code block it was declared in is left by the program) it is popped again. The stack does have its limits, though. Any data you place on the stack is fixed in size and therefore cannot grow or shrink, and the stack's size is typically limited so very large types shouldn't be placed on the stack to prevent stack overflows.
If you need to declare a list of variables that can grow indefinitely, or is very large, you may need to allocate it on the heap, instead. The heap is basically an area of memory where data can be stored anywhere. Since you don't know where the data goes beforehand, the programming language will create a pointer for you that points to the data on the heap and place it on the stack.
Now here's the issue. In the last few decades, CPU speeds have skyrocketed, while memory speeds have increased their speed much, much slower. This created an issue: the CPU cannot be supplied with data fast enough for it to run at anywhere close to full speed. To remedy this issue, hardware designers have implemented small caches into the CPU that can be accessed very quickly. Any time the CPU requests a piece of data from RAM, an entire block of data will be transferred into the CPUs cache memory for quick access.
This works very well when the data the CPU needs to access is stored very close to each other. Chances are, when the CPU needs to access a piece of data it will have already been placed in the CPU's cache.
Ensuring that data is close to each other in C++ is quite simple. Data types that you declare as local variables get placed on the stack that is already constantly being worked on and is therefore cached very efficiently. When you need larger amounts of data, you declare a list of types (such as an array or a vector). C++ will store the list of types close to each other in memory, so looping through all elements of a list is very quick, even when the list is living on the heap.
Java, on the other hand, forces all classes (which is what types are called in Java) to be allocated on the heap. This is true for local variables (that are typically only needed for a short amount of time, so the allocation overhead may be significant) as well as classes that are stored in a list. Java doesn't give you a list of types like C++ does, it gives you a list of pointers that point to the actual data on the heap. Since the actual data can practically be located anywhere in memory, looping through such a list can cause a large number of cache misses, which ruins performance.
TL;DR: Java forces memory to be allocated in a way so that it cannot be cached efficiently, which create huge performance issues on modern hardware.
@@ThePC007 I'm learning how to build fundamental data structures in C and they deal a lot with dynamic memory management, so I've been studying how the memory structure works and your explanation was very simple and easy to understand. I was wondering how the cache would behave if a list was allocated onto the heap, very interesting!
I’ve now played both for a while and i can say that its a nice thing to have cross play and all but java has so much more possibilities from a recourse/ farm perspective like the scare function on villagers for iron farms as with bedrock you dont have a scare function etc
It'd quite nice we got spectator mode on bedrock now. I remember a few months ago, it was on the experiment feature list, and looks like recently it's a full gamemode now. Pretty nice
/gamemode spectator
“Bedrock can load 96 chunks at once”
Meanwhile, me with my 4 chunks: Yeah, sure thing, buddy
For me on my pc it struggles to run anything above the 32 chunks that Sodium allows, however on Bedrock I can easily run 96 without a single dip below 60fps, if I'm not in VR that is.... Its quite interesting to me tbh.
that is sim chunks
not loading chucks
@@skytheminecrafter8457 no, it's loaded chunks.
I think it depends on the device you’re using, my xbox one s gets a max of 14 chunks and I can’t lower it below 5 chunks.
Same im bedrock player and only get 16 chunks
The reason why it's easier to create a server with Bedrock is due to the fact that it was most likely conceived with crossplay in mind, so they integrated the Xbox network to the code of the game. In Bedrock, the server hosting system is done on the Microsoft servers. Unlike Java, where Mojang never really had a network to integrate in the game, so to host a game you have to configure it through your local network.
(This is an educated guess)
A gigabyte of ram should do the trick 😏
I’m guessing this is the reason why as well. Although, with the migration from mojang accounts to Microsoft accounts we may see that network being integrated in the near future. The devs have also mentioned crossplay between both versions is a long term goal, so some time in the far future, we definitely might see Xbox live being incorporated.
Actually, I run a 24/7 server on a practically potato pc. I run it through the exact same method as Java, except the port is different. Its really nice to be able to play with ps4, xbox, and switch players on a server I run. Only issue is finding convenient plugins.
I actually managed to get java and bedrock cross platform multiplayer working, and working remarkably well I might add, using a server plugin called geyser.
@@suprman1290 If you have friends that play Java I recommend using the Geyser plugin, which allows crossplay between Java and Bedrock
Minecraft Bedrock Edition has a fairly decent DX12 renderer with multi-threading to boot. Minecraft Java Edition however is stuck with OpenGL. Java edition needs a Vulkan renderer should Mojang keep expanding the game. That is assuming there's a way to upgrade the renderer for Java edition.
On a side note Java Edition does feature multi-threaded chunk streaming. It's a primitive form of multi-threading where you delegate tasks that don't require too much synchronization to run on dedicated threads.
i think the reason why the add friends feature isnt in java is like how other games are on xbox or ps4 they have gamertags, and without them the friend system wouldnt work at all, bedrock used those same gamertags to find and friend people
TheMisterEpic: **Talks about marketplace**
Mcpedl: *You underestimated my power little mortal*
Yeah, mcpedl 4 life
Yes, mcpedl is miles better
What about Xbox? Ps or Nintendo switch...
@@ben_the_potato well Xbox has mcpedl
@@ben_the_potato Bruh mcpedl is a website which gives acces to add-ons texture packs and more
As a Minecraft Veteran I respect All Versions of Minecraft
Minecraft is minecraft
Until you realise you can’t build on the nether roof then it’s not the same.
I love Java
I respect Bedrock
@@qu9809 Bedrock is uglier
@@stevenx399 ok
Nice video!
Oh and just a thing, the /locatebiome command exists in bedrock, it's :
/locate [stucture/biome]
"bedrock is better than java"
unlimited mods, shaders, texture packs and servers:
You can literally get all of those on bedrock too my guy 😂
by paying, shut your mouth@@daniilfilms Java is objectively better.
@@Menezia no, for free dumbass 💀 there are tons of websites where you can get free mods, So shut ur mouth Menezia and know what ur talking abt.
@Thestrawberrycat_ java is way better kid lol
@@mctogo001 java has free mods too when i mod and stuff there are way too many mods to pick from java is better and bedrock pvp is ass and the redstone is ass
I just wish bedrock and java was the same, that would be good.
Yeah me to.
mojangs goal is to make them undeciferable
@@Raccoozed yeah
Yeah but they're lazy
Yea why can't they be the same
I love how he spoke very little about the marketplace and focused mainly on the technical side of things. Not that many people actually use Marketplace (myself included). The only times I DO use it is when free things come out, which have the same amount of quality as payware content. I’ve been a Bedrock player from the very beginning, mainly because I cannot afford a PC, and it has been worth it.
Yea but you can get all the stuff on marketplace for free on Java
@@sivinty_ Maybe, but as I said I don’t have the money and time to purchase a PC, and either way I’m not interested in.. “Teen Gamer Boy Skin Pack”.
@@joeschmo1993 well said🤣👍🏻
@@sivinty_ Dude, in Bedrock you can still get your free custom skin, free custom resource packs, maps, etc. I don't really know why so many people hate on the marketplace, when most of the stuff there you can get for free basically
@@adecs1422 I’ve played bedrock, and no you can’t get even a eighth as much stuff, let alone try making your own
Things I need in bedrock
1. An actual pause button
2. A torch in my offhand
I just wish that the good traits from both versions would come. If red stone worked the same way in bedrock as Java or mouse and keyboard is way better for Java
Fun fact: The only reason people use bedrock is that it's available on any device, I'm a bedrock player and I actually agree on this
Multiplayer is a BIG plus for Bedrock.
As a bugrock player i can agree
some ppl play bedrock on pc since it can run smoothly on low end devices unlike Java
@@miimiiandco.8721 But on java "we" have hypixel, which has aaaaaaa lot of minigames and kind of compensates java multiplayer disadvantages. But yes, multiplayer - stable and cross-platform is very strong site of bedrock.
I think that one other of reasons why java is liked is the FREE mod and map support, the ease to change the game. And myself I also dislike the GUI of bedrock.
But overall it really all comes to preference and what are the things in these games that you like or not.
@@caspernotghost I don't really play on big multiplayer servers too often, but yes, the servers on Java are bigger and more advanced than Bedrock.
The joining method in bedrock absolutely nukes Java. I wish it was that easy
To bad >:)
#TeamBedrock
It May be added to java after the account migration
It's kinda shitty though, can't even awnser a discord message cause when the game isn't in focus just for one second you get kicked. I'm a java player and tried bedrock and it was ok, but the multiplayer kinda sucked so i switched back to java and just created a server, yeah it isn't as easy but it's more stable.
@@ayviuon are you playing in full-screen? That only happens for me when you play in full screen
@@QuazChick it happened in windowed mode too,maybe they fixed it in later updates
Hopefully in the future we can get a custom skin browser/editor
As a person who has been playing pocket edition since 2016 and has never touched Java for a while I was jealous because you guys got such call mods like origins in Pixelmon but now bedrock has all those cool mods such as poker block and of course the mini origins mods or is it add-ons I don’t really know we also have apps, such as crafty craft, which allow you to create mods, super easily and export them to Minecraft, super easily
Both Bedrock and Java have their similarities and differences it doesnt matter what version you play on it matters if you have fun playing the game
Very true
Facts
@@TheMisterEpic Very true
@@TheMisterEpic am I able to join your server on ps4?
You just said facts bro
Have been a Java player since the beginning but damn, when you have friends with no PC and you want to play together nothing beats Bedrock Edition. Plus the multiplayer on it feels so much more at home. You notice all the command magic but it just fits right in. I still prefer Java for anything involving mods though.
Yea mods are definitely a much larger benefit on java, on bedrock you can only dream to get something as close to as good as java mods
servers are better on java too
I actually dont realy like bedrock’s cross play, especially for competitive minigames, it can be an unfair advantage toward pc players.
@@sleepingeye7314 THAT is very true but original poster is using that statement in reference to playing with friends, playing with friends is as easy as just 2 clicks and thats what makes bedrock special.
@@shauryak3325 yeah if youre just playing survival, its so easy.
okay so not to poke at a wasp nest but
**changes color of the leaves**
Damn you use dota 2 reborn music for the first section of the video, respect.
Him calling 50fps horrid made me feel so poor
I normally play on 30 FPS max, so same
minecraft is generally limited by the cpu, so his ryzen 3900x, not the gpu. except for ray tracing, the 3080 probably isnt making much of a difference compared to any other modern gpu
i play on 60 fps
Ikr, 50 fps is amazing
It depends on the 1% lows...
If its an average of 50 fps but dips down to 10 frequently, the experience is "horrid".
I have had times when 50 fps was unplayable and times when 30 fps was buttery smooth.
alr im done XD
My main reason for playing Java edition is the offhand. On bedrock, you can only put nautilus shells, shields, totems, arrows, fireworks, and maps in your offhand. Also, the small things like banners marking things on maps, banners on shields, debug screens, more common snapshots and less bugs in world generation are nice. That’s why I typically prefer to play on Java and not Bedrock.
Oh I didn’t know that, my bad. I’ll remove that
This is keeping from bedrock
Banners on maps is something I really wish we had on bedrock. Though I think most people are more jealous about banners on shields
Java offhand: literally anything (not sure xD)
Bedrock offhand: shield, map, that's all I guess, maybe
I wish that was in bedrock. I don’t have Java
1.18 demolished mobile devices render distance however. I went from 16 chunks rendering distance to 6 on a iPad Air
Just found this, and wow I didn't even know Java was like that, I have an online friend from England, and i have one from Canada, I live in texas, and some people put something really similar to others into bedrock
Please, I just want to hold torches and blocks in my second hand
Me too
Download a behaviour pack
@@darkblader3977 Not only did they make the good things cost money, I have absolutely horrible internet and it will hardly download
@@Nathansus holding torches in your off hand (second hand) is cool but, it only lights up in your hand when your using optifine. (a java mod) sorry if you already knew this.
@@Atzlk they use left hand to place them.
"Bedrock performance is smoother"
Yup. That's why my phone don't burn
How about you check your phone instead of blaming the bedrock edition ?
@@somitmie6496 that mean it is good
@@somitmie6496 i played an emulated version of Minecraft Java on my phone and got 15-20 fps while playing bedrock i got over 60 fps unlocked its quite insane on bedrocks optimization
Bedrock is made for slower devices but it suck I started playing Minecraft on it until I got a good Computer then jumped ship because never found a way to make back ups of my world now I just copy my save every month in case of corruption or loss I can restore stuff. I lost alot of worlds in bedrock to updates and devices, you change your phone or touch pad = new world which sucks.
@@vinportobg me too
I have both and I prefer bedrock edition, I just with we had connected textures like the optifine glass, besides that we just need better shaders and I’d love it
That jungle home looks beautiful.
Man, I played Bedrock for most of my life, and I remember playing Java for the first time, and noticing these weird little differences. Wait, you don't need a shovel to craft a boat? Why can I get achievements in creative? But, honestly, just the control setup's ease of use made me never look back
You don’t need a shovel to make a boat?
@@Coelphysis21 u do in bedrock
What? I dont?
@@Coelphysis21 maybe it was an old feature? idk
i use bedrock so i get more fps
For years, I've been playing Pocket Edition and feeling like there are many things I'm missing out on Java edition. It's just a different feeling when playing on Java edition.
I’ve played pocket edition for years too- I think if bedrock mechanics were a little more similar to Java (banners on shields anybody?) and they didn’t have the microtransaction thing it would definitely be much better. We don’t even need to mention the redstone do we?
you get the feeling that your not playing a shitty clone
@@blazmatic1216 regardless of what version of minecraft we play it’s still a great game so why people keep radicalising it for no reason at all completely confuses me- it’s just a game! Keep in mind I’m gunna get Java this week
@@blazmatic1216 it's not a clone bruh
same
a little update to the video: spectatro mode has been added to minecraft bedrock like a year ago
You can use essential mod to play on private words on java edition, it works really well
For me, I can agree the performance is greatly improved. The thing that stops me from switching to it (other than mod support) is mainly the game logic (redstone changes etc)
Yeah, a lot of good farms are broken
True. The most serious issue is that there is no tnt duplication mechanic in bedrock edition, which makes the majority of automatic machines impossible to be built. Also, blocks can not be placed above the bedrock ceiling in the nether in bedrock edition. This feature makes it hard to build many mob farms in the nether efficiently, as well as high-speed blue ice road.
theres also no rlcraft for bedrock so...
I also hate the UI and well the Marketplace
@@Nomoreracism- no hacks in good coded
I play on bedrock, and it feels so nice to have this positive attention for once. I don’t have a pc, so I can’t play on java and play on bedrock with my phone. I get made fun of for it, but I still really enjoy it. Glad to see more people realizing that we don’t suck!
I dont have latest Bedrock edition, but I have 0.15.0 Beta Minecraft on my phone
@@reevebryllielawas7834 Beta? Its an alpha.
spread the word: mc bedrock should get a virtual joystick and overall better controls. This is 2021, technology is evolving
Some people just can't wrap their head around accessibility. Ignore them hahaha
Same! People like to undermine Bedrock Edition so much. I've always been a Bedrock player on my phone because my parents aren't willing to get me a PC and the game. But I'm fine with Bedrock and couldn't be happier.
The fact that Minecraft still didn't put DLSS to any of the versions leaves me with 30FPS on RTX maps on Bedrock and 24FPS on Java with Seus PTGI HRR3 and 128x Patrix
A year later we can locate biome now and we can spectator mode now in bedrock, still don't have hardcore mode and debug
i just want to hold torches on my second hand
you can't do that on bedrock? why?
Use addon
@@alienshxt there isn't one. If you know pls let me know. I hate bedrock bcz it lacks simple features that can be added easily
@@rumourplays you cant have blocks on off hand because, how can you put it if you're on mobile?
@@2tz1871 You can put an extra button in the corner for the second hand
Additionally, because of how the java programming language works, Java Edition is far easier to mod than bedrock (which is one of the reasons why mojang is making their own scripting system for bedrock edition). As a mod developer, this is the main reason why I stick with Java. I can basically do pretty much *anything* I want in a mod (provided enough time and effort). Can't say the same for bedrock unfortunately, but I hope that mojang's bedrock addon system gets more powerful in the future.
Yeah,part of that is bedrock is a more universal system and things like PlayStation and Xbox aren’t very easy to mod on
Yeah, very difficult to decompile raw executables into compilable code, but for java, even I can take an afternoon and decompile the entire jar and de obfuscate it to modify the raw mc source code. Much better for modding than bedrock
they should move java to c or c +
@@nybotic Its java edition not c+ edition.
@@KayOScode I dont think you can though. From my experience every decompiler has its flaws and there are usually mistakes which you have to fix manually. Thats what forge does, they have their own patches on top of the decompiler to get the mc source code.
i wish they added banners to shields in bedrock its so easy to add
Good to hear the other side, but a lot of the features look like they could've been in java except for optimalization which isn't that bad, most of the comparisons I saw used java world with farms and mobs against fresh bedrock world. And some things, minor and not, keep me in java. Like the combat system, more control over flight in creative, off-hand items...
Also I'm mad because there are at least 2 things we don't have because bedrock cannot handle it.
I didn’t notice until recently but in Java it’s called “Steak” while in bedrock it’s called “Cooked Beef”
And you guys recently noticed it?
@@xxyxxxndta everyones used to what they call it on their version, so they probably didnt realize
@@sunny-pf2lw yes but like you are not a real minecraft fan if you dont know they call steak in java and cooked beef in bedrock
@@xxyxxxndta bro ive played minecraft since i was 5 years old, ive just always played on java. i knew it was called steak on java and cooked beef on bedrock, but i was referring to them
@@xxyxxxndta just because you dont know every detail about minecraft doesnt make you “not a real fan”
The render distance thing is deciving since even though you can see the chunks they aren't actually running so stuff such as farms won't work while all the chunks on java are running so farms in those chunks are working.
Weird. What is the actual loaded chunk range around players in Bedrock then?
@@derpyreaper7949 Its called the Simulation Distance and can be customized in the world settings.
@@UltraAryan10 oh ok. So you can independently customize the render distance and the simulation distance?
@@derpyreaper7949 Yes, its similar to server's max render distance but you can still see as far as you want and also have performance overall even in single player.
@@derpyreaper7949 on Bedrock edition you can run on 5 different lvls of rendered chunks
Sim Distance 4 (from 24 to 44 loaded blocks)
Sim Distance 6 (from 24 to 96 loaded blocks)
Sim Distance 8, 10, 12 (from 24 to 128 loaded blocks)
Difference between Sim Distance 8, 10, 12 is that the sphere around the player gets more taller but the width stays the same
In other words to the sides its 128 blocks
And up and done it goes up by like 4 to 8 blocks per lvl of simulation (8-12)
But for us bedrock players most people just play on Simulation Distance of 4 since not much is loaded and its does reduce lag significantly across all devices even tho it isn’t laggy!
What Mojang should do is merge the two together to make one Minecraft that uses c++ and has cross platform friends list of bedrock, has all servers and features of java, and has support for all of the mods of java. I hope that Mojang will one day do this and end the conflict between the two versions.
Or.... Turn bedrock into the legacy console edition but if it was updated today
Either one would satisfy me.
I think the best part about bedrock is its compatability. For a long time I didn't have a computer. Me and my brother owned an Xbox, so we would play on there, or Pocket edition on our tablets. I feel like bedrock is really good just for the fact that you can play it without a computer.
The only reason I consider myself a minecraft veteran was because I was able to play minecraft on pocket edition. And yes, I mean PE, not bedrock. I also got the minecraft Xbox version, which had some features I really miss. It had a tutorial world that was a lot bigger than we ever saw, it had minigames built in that were all really fun, and it had tons of free texture packs. I wish they didn't stop updating it, but they had good reasons to.
Although I started on java and I know lots of people that hate on bedrock I honestly feel like bedrock isnt a bad game. I'll still always love java pvp, java mods, and java looks overrall. But being able to play with console and mobile friends really did it for me.
Very true
I’ve been playing bedrock for far longer than Java, and I loved it, but recently Java has grown on me. It’s because of all the bugs that mojang has put off for months, and some even years.
@@TheMisterEpic Very true
I just hate how its main focus is store content, I just want to play MC, not forcing kill my PS4 with hedge Hogs.
@@jwalster9412 not sure what you mean, you can play the game just fine pretending the marketplace doesn't exist
Java is perfect for CZcams
Bedrock is perfect to play with friends
I have java
All my friends have bedrock
I am all alone
Cross-platform is the only thing that made me choose bedrock
Some friends play on their consoles, pc and others on their phones. We play almost every day and it makes me happy
What is a friend?
@@brunor.2895 same right
@@mr.haiwan my condolences bro
I play bedrock on nintendo switch and it’s awful, though I’m sure it’s better on pc. My max render distance is twelve and the chunks take forever to load: sometimes when I’m in a boat the chunks won’t load until I’ve already sailed over them. Servers are also quite quite hard to join, as I’ll get the “unable to join” message about 80% of the time. Even the friends tab is hit or miss, I usually have to send several invites before my friends even receive them.
Has anyone else on switch had these problems? If so is it possible to fix them?
Forgot to mention arguably the best thing about java. Its pvp is miles ahead of the pvp in bedrock
riptides are much powerful in bedrock than java
Remember at the end we all started by punching a tree
I killed animals with bare hands, ate their raw flesh and ransacked villages. Punching trees are boring.
@Moose_RL But I need money, the manly way.
@@talisdorman.9796 lol
I started by starving to death because I didn't know what the hell the hunger bar was supposed to be
@@brunor.2895 did you even read the comment properly
If only there's replay mod in Bedrock..
Lots of mods don’t exist in Bedrock that are in Java unfortunately
Oof
Someone made a resource pack that's similar to replay mod, their name is Chainsketch I think
There is a PvP server with replay mid in bedrock
Replay mod probably not possible in bedrock for now but you can use two accounts to shoot what you are doing in the world in real time. There's an add-on by foxynotail to pre plan paths and focus points of the alt account which is used as a camera.
i feel like not being able to build on nether roof should be a option to turn on or off
The only thing I need in bedrock is that the ability to hold ANYTHING in the offhand.
For most technical Minecraft CZcamsrs, what's holding them back is the difference in redstone mechanics. There's just something about the specific quirks of Java redstone mechanics that enables more creativity. What would usually start off as bugs would often be used and abused for really cool contraptions and are pretty vital in almost all of their large scale builds. Switching over to Bedrock would really hinder what they could do with redstone.
Yes but a large portion of bedrock is 10 year olds that barley know how a dropper works and the rest just want to play with there friends so it really doesn't matter to most
Finally, people that understand.
Redstone maniacs are a relatively small part of the playerbase, and the reason they do like Java redstone more is the wide selection of bug-turned-fearures they can use.
@@qaaris4280 to be fair, unless Mojang would give alternatives for a big chunk of these bug-turned-features, these technical players really don’t have a good incentive to switch over. Take the observer for example, it’s great because it detects block updates. Very useful for a lot of redstone contraptions. Unfortunately, these don’t replace BUDs entirely. There are still some functionality that aren’t covered by observers. So now you have contraptions that rely on both BUDs and observers. Making the problem worse. Mojang really needs to sit down on this one and iron most of it out in a single update. Prolonging this would only make Bedrock and Java diverge more, making it harder in the long run.
Well, I wouldn't suggest actually _removing_ them, that would just make people riot.
@@qaaris4280 sorry, ironing out all of the issues. Not remove the “feature”.
As a longtime Bedrock player. Both game modes have their advantages. I want a lot of features that Java has and Bedrock doesn’t. I can’t wait for parody between the two
I also feel like some features should stay on their own versions, ruins the fun if they’re both the same
Edit:spelling
They’ll never achieve even half decent parity because the Bedrock devs add random shit like free capes and inconsistent mechanics and crafting recipes.
@@RealPetasi and full parity is something to expect in maybe a decade??? Because spectral arrows don't exist on Bedrock. Why? Apparently because the spectral effect isn't possible for Bedrock's rendering engine. Those things (spectral effect, spectator mode) would have to demand a rework of the engine and in turn that would introduce loads of rendering bugs. I'm pretty sure there are still a lot of noticeable bugs left over from the fairly recent switch to the Renderdragon engine. It would be a repeat of that but probably worse because of new interactions.
Things we need in bedrock
- ability to use offhand slot
- ability to use toggled sprint
- hardcore edition
- replay mod
- ability to breate underwater using doors
- f3 commands
-debug stick
Things we need in java
- working redstone underwater
- bonemeal sugarcranes
- render distance up to 96
- fatal poison
- bedrock bridging
- able to use structure voids as walkthrough barrier block
Hard-core is coming to bedrock
How do you uncap the fps on the Bedrock edition? It won't work no matter what I do
I think one of the things holding both versions back is parity. If mojang spent a one dev year working on parity and performance it would greatly help both Java and bedrock.
THIS
They will have to convert all the java codes from java edition to c++,suspending potential big updates
@@plskill1451 That's the idea. Bringing parity between the two versions could be more important than big content updates.
@@beardalaxy minecraft java will lose its entire point why its named java and will probably waste alot of time if they convert it due to the fact that alot of buggs will probably pop up,and java runs on all windows version removing java from the game will potentially just dont let minecraft run
Now we have seed parity tho!
it's usually the small things that have me playing bedrock over java, like leaves turning snowy, bone meal on sugar canes, easily switching between chestplates and an elytra (unless there's an easy way on Java im not aware of), falling snow layers, and cross-platform. also the wither on bedrock is actually terrifying, on java, it died in like 10 seconds
These are truly interesting little features which makes Bedrock pretty cool....
If you're PC is strong enough.... You think it's possible to add these as mods in Java?
@@TanmaySankolli dude just get bedrock dont just try to get java to be the ultimate version
snow covered leaves just turn red for me. Bugrock edition.
@@tatertotsorsomething I mean.... If its possible to get unlimited possibilities..... Then why not?
In all seriousness, my main reason of preferring Java is the fact that I can go to any version of the game ever released*
@@TanmaySankolli i mean, there is something like that on bedrock too, its just an external program from the game itself, i personally use it to switch between versions
But in recent update locate biome feature was added
Spector mode in experiments column
How does one get a behavior pack I haven't found any on the store I'm on switch
One downside for me is that everything in Bedrock is designed for crossplay, so everything they implement has to work for PC, consoles, and even phones.
That's a bit limiting in my opinion.
True. It's so painful having to crouch to use the shield on PC, instead of using right click. All because players on mobile can't really do much with touch controls.
Yes that and c++ is why bedrock despite having considerably more developers stuggles to keep up with java features
This has one downside for me as server owner. 9 Year old kid can just go to google play and download toolbox.
Cheats for mcbe
I personally don't notice downfalls that much, plus running on a phone means great performance for PC and consoles.
@@destriker0589
No, that's because of the console players, wait, no it's actually the mobile players fault, in console you can use circle on playstation, b on Xbox and a on Nintendo
The main thing I don’t like about bedrock is the redstone. Unless it’s small and simple, the contraptions I make in bedrock will most likely be very inconsistent
I personally find it very consistent, just different to Java edition
Use bedrock tutorials, bedrock doesn't have bad redstone, just different redstone. Use a bedrock tutorial and it'll work.
How is Bedrock’s redstone different from Java’s? I’ve never really noticed a difference other than being able to move storage containers in Bedrock but not in Java, but judging by this comment there’s probably a bit more that I don’t know about...
yeah i hate the weird ticking issues with pistons because they make things so much bigger, i wish they would do a redstone refresh on bedrock
@@ReusableRocketthe biggest problem besides the lack of quasi connectivity (wich I can't spell or explain but its really useful ) and sticky pistons retracting their block instead of leaving it there when powered by a one tick puls is that if there's a 1-0 tick difference betweent two different actions its almost always random what fires first
*laughts in hundreds of high quality free mods and resourcepacks*
you forgot to mention in the bedrock version you can only hold like 5 items in your offhand slot while in java you can hold literally anything in your offhand slot
"chunks load much faster on bedrock"
**cries in mobile**
*edit:* wow...that got famous quick
"cries in maximum 5 render distance"
@@dancelphyt9906 same
I play mobile as well :/
Cries in max render distance 4 chunks.
every update my render distance became lower and lower last time in 1.14 my max render distance is 8 now in 1.17 became 5 wtf!
“Doesn't matter which edition you play on, if you're playing Minecraft then it's Minecraft”
-Some guy comment I saw on youtube
(nice 420 don't like my comment anymore)
truee
Yeah i just prefer the version i play
Because ive gotten used to it lol
Yeah i do not care which version u play i only care iff we can play mc together which iff they have bedrock i will buy them java to play with me
So we can play
“Doesn’t matter which edition you play on, if you’re playing Minecraft then it’s Minecraft”
-everybody on these videos
I play minecraft in my android watch.😂
Most beautiful quote I've read
epic:bedrock is better then java now
bedrock players: we know
having played both versions (java edition since 2012 and bedrock edition on xbox one for some time) both versions have their pros and cons fs but honestly for me it just boils down to familiarity and comfort,, bedrock edition is enjoyable but i’d much rather play java edition any day without a second thought abt it since i’m just much more familiar with it.
modding is more expansive, simple, and FREE
trying to set up a server with friends is quite the task if u try and run it off ur own internet and honestly not worth it,, but there are several external serving hosting sites and services like apex and minehut that practically do the work for you for free or minimal cost (my friend and i are running a 2gb smp server rn for abt $9/month through apex). plus with these sites you have access to a library of literally thousands of server plugins, addons that are like server-side mods that are also very easy to use.
I will say that performance on java is definitely not up to par with bedrock, though mods like optifine do exist; however, no matter what you will be limited by the power of whatever cpu you have: i run on an intel i7-9700F 8-core cpu (? i think) and an rtx 2070, and without optifine i run maybe ~200 fps which is great relatively but feels low for a block game; optifine greatly multiplies this number but then using shaders, esp ones like sildurs extreme, this drops down to a measly 50-80 fps.
biggest for me like i said though is familiarity with the game: i grew up playing java, it is simply what i’m used to and know better,, at essence ig java and bedrock are the same game but the amount of subtle parity issues and small changes here and there to me makes it’s feel entirely different to the point where bedrock edition just feels sort of “fake” to me.. it doesn’t have that same charm i know in java.
whatever version someone prefers ofc is very subjective, and i think it’s important to note really that i’m sure all java edition players know what bedrock edition is, but not the other way around; most originally java players will resent bedrock off the bat bc of xyz, and bedrock players will hear about java later on and think that their own is superior bc it’s what they already have played and it’s what they known.
that’s my 5 am ramble tho
Yeah I cannot understand why Java doesn’t have a friend system.
Maybe they’ll add it cuz they’re switching it to Microsoft accounts
You need xbox live for the friends system it acts like xbox
@@spektree8448 no
it also can without xbox
@@Splashifed no
I have to admit, I play Java when I want moded and Bedrock when I want decent frames/to play with friends, so I can't say I believe either to be superior. They both have so much going for them. Java has actually interesting redstone and bedrock has a whole host of features that make the world more immersive to name but 1 each.
spread the word: mc bedrock should get a virtual joystick and overall better controls. This is 2021, technology is evolving
@Kamey link?
I can also say I like bedrock more because of the being able to punch/place blocks almost anywhere on the screen.
But I want Java for the mods, there's so many I can't get on bedrock that just look amazing and I'm sad I don't have a computer to play it. (Bedrock is catching up a little with the addons but it's got a long way to go still)
@@temp1970 mc pe is discontinued its called bedrock
the addons are bad tbh
Java and Bedrock both have their ups and downs, such as in Bedrock you can only hold a map and a shield in your offhand and you have to crouch to use your shield, you can't right click, but Bedrock is much easier to connect with friends
The only other game I can think of with similarly ingrained community content is SimCity 4 (of which I, a Minecraft Java player, am also a member) which has been kept alive by community members and modders for over one-and-a-half decades after Microsoft moved on from it.
Java and bedrock are both good versions of minecraft in my opinion
Very true
@@TheMisterEpic yesssssssss
ДА!!!
Trying to please both sides
wb the wii u edition 😩😩😩😩😩
Some things I would like to add on:
The bedrock achievement system is a mixed bag. I like that achievements can't be earned on worlds that have ever had cheats activated, and think that should be a feature on java. However, I strongly dislike the fact that they are tied to account and not to world, making you unable to ever re-earn them.
I don't know how no one talks about this, but bedrock has enchanting differences, which range from mixed bag to bad. on bedrock, you can get Projectile Protection at level 30, as well as being able to receive Thorns on any piece of armour. This makes making good armour very difficult, and this difference is entirely undocumented as far as I was able to see. As well as this, you can get the extra damage enchants from the enchant table (which is becoming a java feature), which makes getting good enchants on axes also harder.
All the mobs are way to aggressive to the point that it doesn't even feel like the same mob. I don't need to talk about the Wither.
Bedrock still uses pre 1.11 java hunger, which is BRUTAL.
You only wanted to add disadvantages for bedrock?
Bedrock doesn't have an in-game achievement system the achievements you get are for Xbox live
@@oddgbmo3036 he did, now suck it up because java also has a fair set of disadvantages, and both have advantages, he clearly stated he wanted to add something on, which were a few fairly big disadvantages of bedrock.
And bedrock still has the pre-1.9 combat....
@@inquisition_5753 there is many people who hate the combat though and there could be many people that won’t know how to use the Java combat and would try to spam like some people have done for years
There is support for free mods to the game and is an in game feature called add-ons as there is a built in mod support unlike java but as modding is more popular on java there isn't as many mods to download
They Added Spectator mode now finally
i just dont like bedrock because of the way it controls, in java it feels way more fluid
Agreed. I have played both versions and Java is a lot more fun to control, though I think my bedrock version is a bit glitched as I can't start sprint diagonally or even hold right click. But some other odd things are like the fact that knock back on bedrock is wack af, I don't believe you take more knock back in the air than you do on the ground in bedrock, which means you can literally just chase someone and hit them constantly and they will never be able to escape your hit range, I have done it to many people and people have done it to me. Bedrock also crashes a lot for me.
I play both versions, (although I do main bedrock) and I do agree. Java feels a lot more smooth than bedrock in movement, but I’ve found if you tweak your mouse
DPI the right way it seems to feel just as good as Java.
Yeah most of the time your using a joystick which is 3 inches away from the jump button.
i feel like its better just because ur sprint doesnt stop randomly and mumps register more often
@@rigghost6331 yeah i can agree Java controls are much more stiffer than bedrock's. it's just that the camera movement is controlled by a slow ass stick.
Finally someone who properly outlines the pros and cons of both versions, great video.
Meh it missed the fact that bedrock is specifically developed to make money, so java will obviously be developed slower. Also bedrock doesn't really work on Linux so f that
@@inertial_salmon -2 IQ
@@inertial_salmon Minecraft is Minecraft
@@inertial_salmon actually coding bedrock edition is easier to code becuase it isnt outdated like java
@@TheBMGGaming4182 false? That's like saying a Phone is a phone without differentiating between brands. Some are much more expensive than others, and some are locked to only work with certain software, others give you more freedom. In this case, bedrock is just a business strategy. Why do you think they don't just have 1 version of Minecraft to work everywhere? Why do you think there are so many microtransactions? Seriously.
I know this video has been made from a year ago but they have added spectator so that's cool ig also bedrock got the locate command now so that's cool
I love this video because bedrock edition is so complicated and bedrock is accessible to all devices but bedrock needs some java editions like being able to equip anything on off hand and also sweeping edge
Java: Features
Bedrock: Performance
Me: Is it too much to ask for both?
Probably yes. Features use up processing power, which means there is less available to increase the performance of the game. Conversely, wanting higher performance comes at the cost of features because it’s easier (and therefore you get more performance) running a game with fewer features.
Just look forward to Hytale :)
Yes you can have both it called bedrock edition. It does have features
Alternatively java with those element mods has good performance
@@grimtermite191 problem with some of the "features" on Bedrock:
Combat is still pre-combat update. This is less a problem more a difference, so I won't harp on it and just say it's still the older pre-1.9 combat model.
Redstone is unpredictable. Not buggy but consistent like Java, but sometimes it just does something different. It's like if a calculator randomly gave between 1 and 3 when you key in 1+1, it's not really usable since you can't predict what it's going to do, other than not what you want or expect.
Marketplace has been tried before by a different game. Remember Skyrim and paid workshop mods? This runs the risk of people doing low-effort, possibly copyright-infringing or copied mods and making a quick buck off them. How are people supposed to get refunds then? Are they even going to get refunds should that happen?
@grimetermite what are you on cuz, read ur sentence
It’d make sense if the friends thing got added after the account migration
@Wumpus maybe a future update is what i was trying to say
HOW DID YOU RAISE THE RENDER DISTANCE THAT HIGH???? im on a series x and my max is 28 chunks of is that bs? How did you do that??????
If u have a strong pc it does that
Dispensing armor stands. Going under slabs. Trapdoor crawling. Dispensing bonemeal. And more?
I have both editions on a laptop, and performance really matters to me, that’s why I like bedrock
Yeah
Get Optifine
@@philspaghet modding the game isn't for everyone
(I do personally use 10 different mods for performance reasons though)
@@capta1nseal Eh Optifine is basically vanilla at this point for me XD. It improves performance and is free so there's literally no downside
@@philspaghet yup mods like optifine are imo a-ok for everyone
One of the features that still missing from bedrock edition that is very important is the ability to pause the game in single player.
Also bedrock weapons dont have cooldowns
@Samuel Wilson yeah
Something missing from bedrock that was in legacy edition was being able to leave the world without saving in case it gets griefed or something. Now i have to search through the files to find a backup save(if i even made one) or copy the world everytime before i enter it, which is inconvenient tbh
Fax
I literally died multiple times because of that
Hotkeying in ur inventory is literally missing or sometime idk (sorry bad English)
We have options for maps and mods on bedrock do to external apps