[WARFRAME] The Newest Mission Was Doomed From The Start! "Armatus" Review Pros/Cons | Dante Unbound
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
- Been meaning to make this video for about a month but couldn't bring myself to play the mission anymore.... So I used one month old mission gameplay haha as much as I'd like to enjoy this mission it feels too bad.
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I totally forgot about this mission after getting dante lol
Just as forgetable as the abyssal zone missions 😂😂.
same 🤦🤦🤦
Tbf you can farm neo relics quicks first 2 rounds extract repeat
Just go to ur in uranos and you'll get neo relics every wave @@dankmemes8254
I mean asides from the riven transmuter yea thrs ntg rlly worth rmembering from rewards there
Not only do the keys take forever to drop but the map is about 6 times the size u want for Disruption, so when u get a key u have to run 500 meters to put it in every time.
At least the demos tend to spawn close
That's about tile set...don't use the outdoor ones
@@GazTTV bro one time i was running relics with a full squad and forgot to put it on invite only. It kicked a player out and then you joined Gaz. But we explained what happened and u left. Anyways it was pretty cool!
@@GazTTV by the way, ive been thinking. It takes a REALLY long time to charge incarnons. If there are not those robot dogs or the giant book, u have to shoot like 20 mech arms to get full charge. Its like multishot isnt working on the enemies.
As someone who's always been low on forma with the sole acception being when the account merge happened, they could add forma packs to Loid's inventory to buy for the pity resource. I'd farm the crap out of this then.
Don't see forma happening tbh that's a revenue stream
Beat me to it, but there's still Lua Crossfire and the music puzzle that'll drop completed forma. Otherwise it's bake one everyday.
@@baconghoti no one does that shit,and if they do, they are wasting their time most likely.
It was fun to solo until I got Dante. But I already forgot about it after that. Same as the mission to get Nidus.
Am i the only person enjoying the mission then? Something about it was really fun for me with my smite mag lol. The lower drop rate of keys due to lower enemy density on murmur missions is annoying though. Its a little harder than Kappa since mechs don't really die from slash, and they don't disable your powers which takes a lot of the anxiety i get with that damn beeping lmao.
I swear ive played enough disruption that i hear that beeping in my head even when there is no demolysts alive yet.
No, you're definitely not the only one who enjoyed the mission. My experience was most of the people that ran it with me enjoyed it, aside from those easily fixable gripes (spawn rate, slow scaling, etc.).
I really like the new demos (I don't really even mind the D.A. and that's a first for me. Seems fair to be rid of the nullify) and the waypoint appearing right away is great. I don't have to mute Discord, music, or anything else I might be listening to.
Definite shame that both the reward pool and shop items suck.
solo, the mechs definitely die from slash, but yeah, I do enjoy this mission, I just wish there was an actual reason to run it like you could exchange that capillary resource for something useful, even something minor like relic packs
I really like it too. Just wish the key drop rates were higher and there was more stuff to spend the pity resource on
You’re definitely not the only one. People just have an inability to think for themselves… so they run to yt to know how they should feel about something.
I couldn’t careless about resources, so this is the only mission that feels satisfying.
as someone that has grinded this mission for 3 days straight i can confirm that theres really no reason to keeping grinding it once you have everything unlocked. though in my opinion this is my favorite omnia fissure node to run, not cause its the easiest or most efficient to run sp relics, but simply cause its fun and i enjoy the extra challenge. Additionally, since the introduction of arcane dissolution theres been no real reason to sweat in eidolon hunts, and adding the riven transmutation here makes hunting even more obsolete. Give us sp eidolon hunts or something DE :( anyways, rant over, great video as always man, keep up the great work 👍
BTW this mission is not eligible for omnia fissure
@@GazTTV oops I was thinking of survival wamp wah
We’re people complaining about the whispers in the wall tile set being too small? That just seems like a really sudden addition who’s only purpose is to increase the distance between conduits in order to increase grind time and player time. Also the amount of enemies that spawn seemed very low when it dropped even in steel path. All of my clan mates noticed these things immediately and all of them hated these changes.
it's a giant tileset yea
I only use this mode to test damage on steel path necheamechs with the damage attenuation.
When it first came out, I didn’t need to farm Dante since I bought him outright with plat, but farming the other stuff I only bothered doing this mode solo in SP, because I found it faster to get the main resource, rather than sitting with 3 other people in normal mode praying for a drop.
One of the things I've always wanted is for DE to really nail making us do varied missions and having it be consistently rewarding... They themselves have always wanted it too, they made improvements like adding fissures, but it's still a struggle that they often fail harder than they have to.
At this point we have so much to do that if there isn't a great fissure, we usually do something else. It still serves to create some variance among already good missions, but that's mostly it.
I wish they'd go back and look at specific nodes and modes as a whole and compensate for their lack of efficiency, there would be a great selection of rewarding activities to pick and choose from, and neglected stuff we enjoy would be so much more fun again.
Definitely a challenge in some cases, some things aren't popular at all but very efficient if you try-hard it, probably wouldn't buff those much if at all.
Maybe a good addition (that we could also apply to other frame parts on other missions) would be to be able to exchange the extra blueprints for the pity tokens.
That would solve the issue that we have nothing to do with the extra parts after the 2 crafts.
..that on top of better things in the shop should make it worth it
I got full Dante set in one run. Havnt ran it since few days after release since I got everything
Very fascinating insight! It is a shame to see that DE just cant seem to nail a mission with staying power.
On a semi-related note, you had mentioned something about a Smite Mag build. I'd be curious to see what that would look like if you needed ideas for videos. 🙏
I 2nd this request🙏
After the dante farm, i totally forgot about it
ngl all they had to do was put some arcanes in loids shop and this mode would be worth farming, doesnt even have to be new arcanes they could put the mirror defense arcanes in and this game mode would be worth it instantly.
I'm confused was there supposed to be a story with Dante like the other frames? I already had him built and i was wondering what's next was there supposed to be a cutscene I'm missing or what?
No it's weird, no cutscene, no change to the Leverian, not even a thank you email from Drucus lol
Go back to the leverian after leveling up dante and there should be a prex card on the pedestal at the end and you will get a bit more story
@@GOLD-gr8hg do I need to go back as Dante?
@@Gravesyte I'm not 100% sure on the conditions but I did go back as dante after I got him leveled up and before that the card wasn't there even as him
Does Equinox and Stynax dmg vulnerability work on the Nercromech?
Only reason i run this mission is to get riven transmuters, which i prefer to do this over eidolon hunts because it is so bugged
Relic packs would be great id love another way to pre farm relics along side steel essence
the gruzzling does help mitigate the elite units not dropping keys.
that damage attenuation is waaay worse than old sentient resistances, b/c the new weapons/mod configs would def stomp those old brick walls.
It can show up in arcamedea, so it's still being played some what. When last have I done a salvage mission?
on others disruption there are enemies that have 100% and they appear 1-2 per round like corpus have ski/iceskates enemies. On armatus it is only gruzzling and it sometimes does not appear or appear after 5min or more. In others factions it seems the more annoying/challengeing enemies the more chance for key while in armatus special enemies like atomizer and hollow vein don't have increased key drop rate.
I think this mission won't be dead 100%, between that's where you get Dante and the Onos, you can farm some relics, and the resource of killing Demolyst Necramechs can be used as a "quick" credit farm, I think squads will tackle this mission from time to time.
wouldn't call it a good credit farm
You can also get riven transmute, that’s what I do no more selling garbage rivens for cheap plat or endo
@@GazTTV To be fair, I didn't called it good, just "quick"
Why even suggest it as a "quick" credit farm 😂 do a solo PT run with Chroma and you'll have a million credits within 2- 2½ mins
jsut do pt lol
Buff key spawn rates and remove keys from gruzzlings, missing that little bit of extra arcanes, echo voca, and Lanthorns makes it a lot worse imo but they won’t change that cause they’re designed for the dockets
Good point, was actually going to suggest making gruzzling actually decent loot here
DE needs to do a rotation where every week they choose a forgotten mission and spice up the reward pool with something desirable like forma, axi relics, fosfor...
Here what I think:
- We'll have Lith disruption in a future update (Either cuz' they found out we want it or cuz' it was planned already)
- Having Lith disruption mixed with Dante and his pool plus you can buy Credit Cache with the resource the mech drops.. They don't like that.. So maybe it was already planned for the future.. a Lith disruption farm but without the pool and resource and this new changes they made already learned.
- I like the dmg attenuation for squad cuz the mech is super easy to find, y'all can go straight up to him in squad and run him down then to the next mech (they need to fix key's spawn rate.)
At this point in the game it would be kinda nice if instead of credits we could sell excess blueprints for a small amount of Vosphor.
If de increased the spawn rates, key drop rates, made the vaults not some times be 900 meters away, and increased how fast the lvl scaled I'd really enjoy this mode.
Too bad they didn't add arcanes, adapters, shards, relics, or even a rotating inventory like the Duviri vendor...
I really enjoyed farming Dante, much more than any other frame in recent memory, It was chill (maybe a bit too easy) and getting all the parts was surprisingly fast, to the point where I wouldn't have minded doing it longer if there was a reason to.
I guess I mean it's a solid foundation and with faster scaling + key drops and better rewards, it would have been one of my new favorite farms, but you're right, I have no reason to go back. After grinding Eidolons for Energize I have more riven transmuters than I'll ever use.
I agree that this mission has lost it's touch after you have farmed everything and the drop tables aren't that great. However, I still do them every now and again if I just want something new to do or here some dialogue from Parvos Granum and Drussus Leverian. However, I agree with your points.
Kullervo can kill the Necramechs pretty quickly.
The key drop timing definitely sucks. The only realistic bonus in the capillaries that drop from each demolyst for the riven transmuter rather than being time gated for eidolon hunting. That's honestly the ONLY reason I farm it off and on. Lol! You make absolutely valid points here though.
The status hard cap on demos just killed too many of the things i like to use
It feels like half of the starchart is doomed Spy and Rescue that only a handful of frames are good at. So yeah, there's a lot of dsoomed out there, and I agree with you on all counts.
I have 529 riven transmitters didn't knew I had that much.
Good luck ever using that haha
That’s why I just bought Dante pack, and then used market discount to get one for subsume 😂
Worth farming for riven transmuters imo
One of the only ways to get them yeah
What I don't understand is why DE feels the need to slow things down what with the low drop chance for the keys, which was probably to justify the stupid gruzzling, and the funniest thing about the gruzzling is that I only like to see that guy in non disruption missions.
He gives you either an extra echo voca, an arcane, or 3 lanterns. All of which I appreciate infinitely more than a dumb key.
But anyways, this game has an insane amount of content, there is no need to slow things down, players will always have something to do, and if you have every single thing in the game then quite frankly DE would be wrong for trying to make you play even more.
Look.. I agree to pretty much everything concerning Efficiency of time spent. Sure you can absolutely look at gaming like that and that's fine.
Personally.. I find this mission much more fun than a normal disruption. Why? Because of the damage attenuation and because they don't have the nullifying bubble/pulse.
Sure it takes its time and the loot is horsedung but it's just fun to take down those necramechs.
One thing I should mention is that I mostly play this mission solo. As you mentioned in the video the mission takes a turn for the worse when running in a group because the challenge to take down the necramechs becomes more of a chore than fun.
If anything de should make legendary melee arcane available in some way in this mission
Before I even watch I’m just gonna say I’ve only ran armatus to get Dante 2x and then when it’s a T5 bounty I might run it cause it’s decently quick and easy
damage attenuation is not applied to true damage is it?
Nothing is applied to true damage , thats why its true damage.
I was very excited to play this as my new main mission.
Unfortunately it "feels" bad to play due to keys not dropping.
Agreed the spawns should go up
Put it in the void fissure mission pool
As someone who likes disruption lvl caps I'd rather go to Ur on Uranus with its infested demolishers which are immune to viral procs than Armatus and deal with damage attenuation. Archons have a good amount of it, but not demolishers in Armatus or the 30/60 eyes boss. It's like gear doesn't matter and are forced to shoot at a bullet sponge for a while regardless of what you bring.
Was talking to alliance chat about this. No arcanes meant a quicker Dante and Weapon farm, but there's nothing to go back to.
They should move the shard from Bird 3 to the Dante shop.
The shard was doable in one kahl mission, now it needs a whole day of Cavia standing. Put it up for the amount of vessel capillaries that would take 2 SP rotation C runs.
Guess ill farm my 2nd dante out before i forget about it lol
I went into the mission, looked at the farming time, looked at the pity system, and said "Screw it, farming plat is faster" and just bought everything from the market.
Can bird 3 please sell relic packs in his vender? All tne open worlds let you buy them with standing. Ive cleaned out his shop, and there is nothing to buy except the weekly shard. I could get dupe melee arcanes to trade, but i wants the sweet aya anr to be lazy getting new relics.
Also dante vendor is also bad once you get dante and his weapons. Neat to see riven thingies there, think thats the only place you can bet them, but o would like a little something else in that vendor for repeat items that are bood to grab.
Besides the end rewards, the trash mobs also don't drop allot of variation, in all cavia missions. Why not let them drop alloy plate/rubedo/plastids etc. like everywhere else....
The cavia resources aren't even helminth resources sadly
They should just make it an axi fissure and call it a day
They got it down with Tyana Pass and Conj Survival, giving trade value of the currency by converting into arcanes and other goodies, but as usual, DE just fears giving people anything else to farm outside of relic cracking. But to be honest, it's not really fun anyway due to how the Necramech scale into level cap and being the slowest disruption there is, both from key drops and TTK of Necramechs level >7k and the murmur faction sucks in general (as in way too undertuned and boring to play against). So, really, no tear shed from my side.
Mag 2 skill + trinity 2 skill = one shot necromech
Oh you mean the things I mentioned in this video? No way
Armatus has noticeably lower enemy spawn rates, even on Steel Path. DE needs to imcrease enemy spawns massively.
Other than that, we have Sanctuary Onslaught to farm Khora and we have ESO to farm resources. On Lua we have Yuvatium and we have Circulus that seemingly has better drops. So maybe Armatus just needs a "big brother" that has more resource drops and no Warframe/weapon parts.
I still play it just to get the riven transmuters
the spawns are super slow indeed, even in SP you barely get any mobs and wait few mins for a key
My problem isn't just the damage, its the spawn rates of those keys. It just doesn't make any sense why I need to go from one side of the map to the other just to get a single key. I'm curious if the rework to disruption missions are to accommodate for this new game mode because the Sanctum is so large with different levels that it would be a pain to just search for the necramechs to then ping it for everyone to go to and then kill it.
I got Dante through loid(human) didn’t bother even trying that arm mission…
Because we have the bug in this mission, which not happen in other disruption: conduit drop is extreme terrible even with full squad.
And what we get with that cost? Nothing special after get full item.
Atleast de should throw some kuva, arcane, relic pack blah blah to that shop
I personally love this mission
the problems are the rewards and the stronk damage attenuation.
everyone who has reached this point has other more efficient endo & credit farms; so it should 100% be made a pure relic farm.
@@Leviathis_Krade I agree the rewards need to be buffed, I just play this mission for pure fun
@@fuzzo2734 non-sp is fun though
Oh right, Armatus...yeah I ended up destroying that place entirely with Gauss & Bubonico, so it was techinically my fault this happened sry 👀😅
TBH they should just make the bounty way rarer. This entire map is good for farming Dante but it has no lasting power afterwards. It's more like a replayable quest than a good mission.
So this is basically Tyana Pass, or whatever Dagath's node is. Didn't even think about that. I will say: they did a great job bringing back CC (in squads) as well as Smite cheese with the new Demos. I liked that a lot, but who knows if I'm in the majority.
oh btw smite Dagath is also legit
Like you cant even farm resources to feed helminth on this mission
Why is everyone suggesting relic packs everywhere? They removed them from the steel essence store because they don’t want them to be able to mass bought.
They are not removed from steel essence store check again
@@GazTTV They were limited though, its pretty clear they don't want us having an unlimited access to them on demand.
Oh woah, a special kind of mission with a special kind of reward that only used to build 4-5 stuffs then becomes useless, who could have known it will be forgotten? (I'm looking at you, Dagath farm)
Murmur Disruption was DoA due to lack of _useful_ evergreen rewards plus the fact that you only get "two" new things out of it these being the weapons plus Dante. Drop dilution with useless Endo which I can farm while gaining 2-3 relics just by playing Veil Proxima is also a big thing, but hey, at least it's not Alchemy which was the only way to get Tennokai mods and make some plat out of them, just so that with Dante Unbound a 100pl pack with all Tennokai mods dropped.
PAIN.
i really dont understand why they put the dante and weapon parts in the mission reward drops. it is obvious that they become worthless after you got your sets and will just make you feel like you wasted time if they drop. i think i wouldve been way better if they just put them in the loid store and adjusted either the pity ressource amount that demos drop or the dante/weapon part cost in the shop. add some more rewards to the shop, like youve said, relic packs, kuva,endo etc.. maybe add some more twists to the mode itself so it stands out from the other disruptions, like spawning two demos for example like in the eda after a certain round, so you also get more pity ressource. but the biggest problem is definitely the rewards droptable. the mission is a one and done story, get your dante and weapons and go back to lua.
getting useless parts like that everywhere, like gyre parts and stuff but the worst is sevagoth parts i have like 8 each and it sucks wasting 15m for useless garbage
i hadnt played it til yesterday , only because it blocks me from trying 60 eyes lol
Need an incentive to play after you get all the new items 100%.
What if in told you some people just play modes to play the modes and don't care about drops..so yes people will definitely play this mode for random funz
wanna see ppl grind it? have us trade cappilaries for fosfor done
Those pity parts u collected should br used for better stuff relics . Kuva . Even the extra dante and weapon parts should be broken down for that pity system resource. Etc . I have had 8 dante full sets 2 melee sets but not once have i had new gun bp drop .. 😢😢😢.. ik i can buy with pity but ill buy it and it will drop next run fr 😂😂😂.. i did it for dante systems then got 3 in a row 😮😮😢😢😢. Ik sad 😔 😊😊 great video ty n big ❤ tenno .. ohh i never forget .. big ❤❤ to all you other tenno watching and reading .. 😊
False in a full squad with my mirage I 1 shot them with a forced slash proc swarm with my melee that does insane base damage output with a permanent 4x combo
Classic DE they do all this work for no replayability. I would play Circuit for fun if it had more than one boss but Jesus Jackal and Jackal and Jackal? Who is working at DE and making a rogue like game mode with one boss? That is the level of Shallow! of the game, in and of itself. They do lighting and envoirment and art very well and shit the bed on gameplay and boss mechanics.
Adding the 100k credits for 180 vessels was the stupidest idea, smh.
I mean, what self-respecting, END GAME Tenno is that hard off for credits? 💀
No one wanted Demos with status resistance, unstippable armor and refactored damage attention.
Personal opinion, please don't attack me. I like the the tanky demolist and the dmg attenuation. But the drop table is piss poor rewards. I mean here I having fun and stressing over shooting the demolist but not getting rewarded according to that. That just puts me off.
Edit 1 - I know Deep archmedia sp is there but disruption is fun.
The demolyst don't really bother me as much as the bad key spawns
@@GazTTV yes I forgot to add to that too. You are correct.
this is part of a bigger problem
they don't seem to want u to farm anything
ever anymore
everything is time gated bs
and i'm not talking about syndicate rep/standing, that's fine
but everything they add to the game now isn't farmable and it isn't tradable
and i hate it
watch infested liches are some stupid "do 2 missions once per week and weapons aren't tradable" garbage
i can 1 shot tham with kullervo and 25,7 crit multiplier on steel path
solo one-shots don't matter btw
@@GazTTV in a team
Is this buffed up by team mates aswell? Im interested in hearing about it. Kullervo is the man!
@@lrwkobra1 no i just have 300% streng with kullervo a rly good riven on ichor and full tau violet archon shard and it's not full 1 shot i do press 1 then i need to hit it with like 3-4 light attack but it's close enought
armatus is good to farm relics
Did u even watch the video
@@GazTTV yea
and my point stats since we can get 2 types of relics
even if there is the chance of not getting it
there still there and i haven gotten shafted by the rng on the relic department
The weapons arent great compared to other incarnons, if you got a sunbsume Dante and the simulacrum there isnt a reason to run it. Very few tenno care about captura scenes and transmuters are from tridolons too.
I use it to grind credit.😂
1 mil credit after what 3 hours?
NEVER returned to this dead mission when I finished getting Dante (subsumed) and Onos! No point playing thereafter! 😒🚫
At least it's a lot better than the new net-ta-ass crap
this mission was deff doomed from the start slow key drop rates and then every now and then you also gotta go huntdown the gruzzling wich also jsut takes extra time and with the Dr the demlists have its kinda anti team play better to run this solo or 2 people
I feel ya Gaz. It totally looks like DE wants us to forget the new content areas, even though I really enjoy the new faction you just get rewarded less by playing on the new tileset. And this problem can just be solved by DE getting rid of all those BS rewards filling up the droptables. It sickens me seeing a freaking credit cache in the droptable on every new node, why dafaq can I still earn credit caches on a mission where the base lvl is higher then on any other tileset? Have you seen how garbage the drops are on the newest Survival? These BS rewards are the reason why so many people keep playing the same nodes on the Void or the same Disruptions, there is no freaking reason to play the newest nodes other then for the heck of it. Because obviously people rather wanna earn a relic then 5k credits after 5 minuts.....
Honestly the key drops are fine, y'all just have the Warframe equivalent of tiktok brain rotted attention spans
those necramechs are just stupid, i was doing elite archmedia and a leech eximus necramech spawned, i swear we spend 8 minutes trying to kill him. He was a bullet sponge and when the health reached 10% he just used his eximus magic and got FULL HEALTH. Nice DE
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nice cat for the profile pic, it looks adorable
101% sure DE don't care & won't change anything about the mission.. There's PLENTY of other ways to farm relics lol.. The use the mission has after Dante is the transmuters n thats it.. If u want something else then go somewhere else..
Shit take
I don’t understand the hate, the mission is fine, we knew the necramech demolishers would be tough, the damage attenuation isn’t as bad as you would think, treat them like archons, I use miter incarnon and all I have to do is use a damage vulnerability ability and I can take the demolishers down easily, I even three shot a bone widow at level 200 with roar active. It’s not a normal disruption mission and I like it, I run Dante on it often when I want to stress test a build
I think you ignored the main point of the video with is the rewards being lackluster after getting dante
@@GazTTV not just talking about the video, just the hate against the mission in general, i agree with the after round mission rewards, should be better