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    Episode 244 of Love At First Scent
    This was a CZcams Live broadcast streamed on Monday 17th January 2022. Unscripted. Unedited. Unrehearsed.
    In this episode, I interviewed Gabe Oppenheim, author The Ghost Perfumer, the book which explores the relationship between perfumer Pierre Bourdon and the brand Creed.
    Thanks for watching.
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Komentáře • 120

  • @relocatetoItaly
    @relocatetoItaly Před 2 lety +31

    You are a great interviewer, you ask the questions when necessary without cutting in and interupting and pushing your own agenda. Excellent interview 🎤🙋🏻

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Very kind -- thank you.

    • @relocatetoItaly
      @relocatetoItaly Před 2 lety

      @@Persolaise really great interview working my way through your channel 🍃

  • @ggr68
    @ggr68 Před 2 lety +16

    Gabe is such a knowledgeable writer, please bring him for more interviews! 😊

  • @speedwolf5212
    @speedwolf5212 Před 2 lety +16

    “Before Wasser was relieved of his duties at Guerlain” 😳💣

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +5

      Rather a surprising moment.

    • @danbarros1978
      @danbarros1978 Před 2 lety

      @@Persolaise He seemed upset in your latest interview but I thought that's just the way he is...

  • @angelajuneholmes4933
    @angelajuneholmes4933 Před 2 lety +18

    Some jaw dropping moments but hugely interesting.

  • @JustinHight-hl6uu
    @JustinHight-hl6uu Před rokem +3

    I could listen to Gabe talk about perfume all day

  • @amethystglow3527
    @amethystglow3527 Před 10 dny +1

    I’ve have been going through all your interviews the last few days now you’re on a break, and THIS was the juiciest one yet 😂😂😂 my goodness!

  • @johnparker8490
    @johnparker8490 Před 2 lety +11

    Monsieur Persolaise! Fascinating intriguing Interview! (Yes with a capital I). The Guerlain gossip oooohlala indeed. Shall definitely be reading this book in the near future. Much thanks for the erudite & educated questions.

  • @EM-km8em
    @EM-km8em Před 2 lety +8

    Please interview Pierre Bourdon i would really love to hear his detailed story behind classics like Kouros, Cool Water, etc etc… please make this happen before its too late, he is one of the last true Perfumiers out there.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +4

      I’ll see what I can do… but I’m afraid I won’t be holding my breath.

    • @EM-km8em
      @EM-km8em Před 2 lety +2

      @@Persolaise any luck ?

  • @julieanna7061
    @julieanna7061 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow- thank you for such a thoughtful interview. It was such a pleasure to listen to the two of you - I didn’t want it to stop. Your questioning was sincere and the answers were honest and respectful. If only all interviewing was this easy and comfortable.
    I am a newbie on this scene- so I’m still learning about past and present masters of scent. I fell in love with Dolce Vita when it first launched and have never been without it in my life. Now knowing a bit more about its creator, makes it even more meaningful than the memories I have attached to it. I just purchased the book and eagerly await to dive in.
    Thank you again, and look forward to more from your channel!

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Thanks very much for this kind comment. I’m pleased you enjoyed the video.

  • @ncpmadhead
    @ncpmadhead Před 8 měsíci +2

    This is incredible, I have longed to find stories of fragrance from behind the scenes, I love to hear stories like armani code was supposed to be called armani black, gives more life to the fragrance these stories

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’m so pleased you enjoyed the interview.

  • @Sallahaddin1
    @Sallahaddin1 Před 2 lety +2

    I'm glad to hear that Joy Amin was the first youtuber that inspired Gabe to fall down the rabbit hole. One of the very best!

  • @yogo80
    @yogo80 Před 2 lety +8

    This was the BEST EVER 👍🏻

  • @timwilcox9600
    @timwilcox9600 Před 2 lety +9

    What a great interview. I got my copy of the book a few days ago via Amazon which seems to have published it for the UK. Sorry but free shipping and no wait….I was quite mind-boggled to learn that Gabe is an expert on boxing too! Now if he wants to turn his attention to English football…

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Oooh, that would be fascinating.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @carolinemuller7787
    @carolinemuller7787 Před 2 lety +2

    Really fascinating interview - I really enjoyed it thank you so much to you Persolaise and of course to Gabe. I just purchased Gabe's book and cannot wait to sink my teeth in! I love many of Pierre's creations and it is such a shame to see how so many perfumers are not given the recognition they deserve. It does make me appreciate the Frederic Malle brand even more as it was to my knowledge the first brand to put the perfumers name to the forefront.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Yes, I believe Malle may have been the first.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @viktoriyasemyz5931
    @viktoriyasemyz5931 Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing interview, as always, thank you 🙏 The book has arrived 3 days before the interview and I couldn’t put it down. Hopefully Gabe will continue writing about the perfume industry - the truth is more appealing than the myths.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks very much indeed for watching.

  • @loriwht
    @loriwht Před 2 lety +1

    Such a great interview! 👏👏
    Sad that I missed the live but so glad to have caught up this evening. I’m 3/4 of the way through the book and determined to finish it tonight while your interview is still fresh. ✨ (subscriber from Newfoundland, Canada)

  • @gen_o
    @gen_o Před rokem +1

    Mr. @Persolaise I’ve only watched this now ‘cause I’m contemplating getting a copy of the book. I ❤❤❤ this interview - Gabe was so candid and the responses you’ve garnered from him were very insightful. I’ve watched other interviews of Gabe on his book and I can say that (consistently) you’ve done such delightful, absorbing and well executed interviews! Thank you.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před rokem

      That’s really kind. Thanks for watching.

  • @ipurvi
    @ipurvi Před 2 lety +2

    Most engaging interview with interesting new perspective of the industry. Great way to start the year 🙌

  • @Roberto-xc5xy
    @Roberto-xc5xy Před rokem +1

    I'm late here ... But what a wonderful interview ... Thank you so much!

  • @haikuoflife
    @haikuoflife Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent interview, I think it's good for a budding perfumer to know how some companies can be exploitive and for customers that are concerned about ethics can decide what they want to support. I like that artists are getting more credit for their creations.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Good point.
      Thanks very much for watching.

  • @storkonstage
    @storkonstage Před 2 lety +9

    Excellent interview. This is sooo what the industry needs. Openness and transparency. Glasnost and perestrojka. And the story about Thierry Wasser explains a lot. He made to mine opinion a few very bad ones. (Ideal Cool and Santal Royal to name a few). And the line and strategy of Guerlain is rather vague. Beatrice Piquet is on the move then? A great perfumer. I respect Thierry Wasser very much by the way. His Dali Homme is a masterpiece so is La Petite Robe Noir. Kudos to Gabe for lifting up that iron curtain of the fragrance industry a bit. We are all bees, are we not.....

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to write.

  • @fqjcior
    @fqjcior Před 2 lety +2

    I've just finished reading the book. This was great reading, I must admit! Congratulations to Gabe for writing this exciting story. I'd love to read more about the perfumery from him and first and foremost I'd totally love to read the book written by Monsieur Bourdon himself. Please Gabe, you have to keep convincing him to do publish it! :)

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Fingers crossed!
      Thanks for watching.

  • @maisali3152
    @maisali3152 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What a great interview. Thank you both. I learnt so much. I can't wait to get my hands on the book.
    In fact, i would love some perfume book recommendations Daruish please. I'm going to also get the Michael Edwards book. Any other great recommendations would be truly appreciated. I'm trying to order your book but no luck finding it.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 měsíci

      My book is out of print, I’m afraid. Sometimes, second hand copies pop up online. As for recommendations, please check this out: persolaise.com/shopping-guides
      Thanks very much for watching.

  • @gregharvey2173
    @gregharvey2173 Před 2 lety +6

    Look forward to all your interviews P. Loved Gabes's many insights and this one especially. Bravo.

  • @kathrynimhoff344
    @kathrynimhoff344 Před 2 lety +7

    I thought Thierry W was spending most of his time with Guerlain looking for sources and materials.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      I’m not sure. That’s possible, I guess.

    • @kathrynimhoff344
      @kathrynimhoff344 Před 2 lety

      @@Persolaise From TW's lips to my friend's ears. This was 2-3 years ago.

  • @liselotteamblat6953
    @liselotteamblat6953 Před 2 lety +1

    A world of fragrance recommended this video of yours or rather shared the link to your interview in her last video about the book! Cannot wait to watch it as I know you are a great listener : attentive, incisive and fun! But it's worth viewing it on my laptop with this format of shared screens, so "we'll be right back" as they say on The Daily Podcast by the New York Times! Meanwhile... It is not for me but I wonder if Gabe's book has been translated to French, I couldn't find it? I found, after having persevered, a French podcast about perfume which I love, La Parfumerie Podcast, because they dive in the mechanisms of the industry and don't hold back on enlightening the listeners in order to "democratise" perfume. I don't think such a podcast would be able to exist in the UK because they don't hold back in the tone and the critics.... But you know we French people are supposedly rude! ;) In short, I think they would like it and I'd like to send them the link. They also have a Discord (like a chat) and I was happy to see you referenced as a reliable source of information for those who can understand English!

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Thanks very much for this. And although my French isn’t great, I’ll try to seek out the podcast.

  • @JT-rx1eo
    @JT-rx1eo Před 4 měsíci +1

    I can't think of Cool Water without thinking of its superior incarnation, Green Irish Tweed. My favorite Bourdon creation is Green Irish Tweed.
    I have both the 1986 Lancome Sagamore, which beat out Bourdon's GIT-to-be formula for the brief, and YSL Jazz. Both outstanding fragrances, despite Sagamore having been forgotten.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks very much indeed for watching.

  • @RMAREIDOOM
    @RMAREIDOOM Před 2 lety +1

    Great interview. Not too surprised by any of the reveals. The business is very shady at times, lol. Btw, I'll be subscribing to you. :)

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks very much - I appreciate it.

  • @jcgillies
    @jcgillies Před 2 lety +4

    Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, an excellent interviewee interviewed excellently. Well done and thank you.

  • @relocatetoItaly
    @relocatetoItaly Před 2 lety +8

    Love habit rouge good choice

  • @Gonzalo_K
    @Gonzalo_K Před 2 lety +9

    I love how Gabe goes on droppin bombs everywhere

  • @relocatetoItaly
    @relocatetoItaly Před 2 lety +3

    HI from Milan .. Just watching it now.. Interesting

  • @kathrynimhoff344
    @kathrynimhoff344 Před 2 lety +3

    Small world. My copy of Gabe's book arrived today.

  • @JT-rx1eo
    @JT-rx1eo Před 4 měsíci +1

    As far as ambergris inbreeding fragrances, Aventus was different than most of the others. I was told that Creed used 5% real ambergris tincture for their "salty sea" accord. But Aventus was different in that Jean-Christoph Herault insisted that ambroxen be used in Aventus.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 4 měsíci

      Fascinating -- thanks for sharing.

  • @LiaAndrews
    @LiaAndrews Před 2 lety +4

    Fantastic interview as always. Really loved this book club/interview format 😊 If nothing else, we need Gabe back on to spill more T 😅

  • @umbertobehounek2342
    @umbertobehounek2342 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant, Persolaise.

  • @eem2562
    @eem2562 Před 2 lety +1

    You have very interesting content ❤

  • @RealMattCook
    @RealMattCook Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks!

  • @fernandomilan8754
    @fernandomilan8754 Před 2 lety +4

    The story of Cool Water is the luckiest bad luck ever. I don't believe it would've had the same impact under a "major" brand. Well, we'll never know.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +2

      This is a fascinating question, and as you say, we'll never know the answer to it. Would Cool Water and all the other Bourdon creations have been as successful if they'd been released by other brands, with their very particular marketing campaigns?

  • @Daunou777
    @Daunou777 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow wow wow 😮! The revelation of Wasser being “releaved of his duties” at Guerlain…… Mon Dieu 😳
    I must say that Gabe’s account of M. Wasser’s call to him from Paris is in direct opposition to what we know of Thierry’s gentlemanly persona. Thierry has been very magnanimous in his acceptance of Delphine Jelk into the Guerlian’s senior nose position. To think that he would call Gabe only to call him back and tell him to call Jelk in so unprofessional a manner just doesn’t jive for me.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for taking the time to write.

  • @valzalel5203
    @valzalel5203 Před 2 lety +3

    So bizarre yet fantastic XD

  • @JoseBenitez-rj2dl
    @JoseBenitez-rj2dl Před rokem +1

    Great interview!! Sounds like Bourdon is a bit of a genius who struggles to fit into the “real” world of business / industry, which can be cold / materialistic etc. still a genius

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před rokem

      That’s certainly how he’s presented in this book.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @felixfox8810
    @felixfox8810 Před rokem +1

    I remember that there was always some talk about French Lover being a stronger, more longlasting version of JCE's Angéliques sous la Pluie, which never made much sense to me. Hearing now that French Lover was actually (mostly?) a JCE fragrance as well, leaves me even more confused.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před rokem

      Yes, that’s a curious detail, isn’t it.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @descampsf
    @descampsf Před 2 lety +1

    awesome! as usual! Do you have a Patreon btw?

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      No, I don’t. Sorry.
      Thank you for watching.

  • @Sallahaddin1
    @Sallahaddin1 Před 2 lety +1

    Also, next time please ask more about Kouros and the history behind creating it :)

  • @muniryassin6141
    @muniryassin6141 Před rokem +2

    The most shocking thing said in the whole interview: JUST AMBROXAN. 56:30

  • @descampsf
    @descampsf Před 2 lety +1

    A&F Woods was amazing!!!

  • @jamiroquai888
    @jamiroquai888 Před 2 lety +2

    Where is the line drawn? Impersonating a creator that has a name or who doesn't? Who decides who is the master perfumer, when there are dozens of unknown creators lending their ideas to the masters so they can polish and sign them for added sellability..?

  • @NotstarvinMarvin
    @NotstarvinMarvin Před rokem +1

    On the Guerlain subject, Delphine did not have a great start with the new Habit Rouge lol..

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching.
      The new Habit Rouge isn’t Jelk’s first scent for the brand.

    • @NotstarvinMarvin
      @NotstarvinMarvin Před rokem

      @@Persolaise Oh yeah she has done a lot i see. Thanks for the vid.

  • @JoseBenitez-rj2dl
    @JoseBenitez-rj2dl Před rokem +1

    4 gallon jug of Cool Water😂

  • @pax-v5h
    @pax-v5h Před 2 lety +1

    I knew right away that Creed was a fake "historic" perfume brand from the moment I saw them use Prince Charles's royal crest for their logo. The royal house actually sent cease and desist letters to them. It also shows the French owners know little about England yet claims to have a long history in England. If they had a long history in England they would most likely been educated at top English Universities and be deeply ingrained in English society.

  • @famine92
    @famine92 Před 2 lety +1

    "Us Aventus people" - wow.

  • @martinaschmidt8401
    @martinaschmidt8401 Před 2 lety +3

    IMHO: Thierry Wasser is a Great perfumer.
    Delphine Jelk is not very talented.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching, Martina, and for sharing your view.

  • @mikekirby2085
    @mikekirby2085 Před 2 lety +10

    The ‘Roja Dove isnt an actual perfumer’ was a bit out of nowhere.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +6

      A few paras are devoted to RD in the book.
      Thanks for watching.

    • @ncpmadhead
      @ncpmadhead Před 8 měsíci

      Roja directs but doesn't create, he's not a perfumer

  • @michaelnamikas8184
    @michaelnamikas8184 Před 2 lety +1

    Unless you guys are lawyers in the relevant jurisdictions, probably shouldn’t opine on whether crimes have been committed
    Great interview otherwise. I feel for Thierry Wasser, assuming what Gabe says is true.

    • @Persolaise
      @Persolaise  Před 2 lety +4

      Thanks for watching.
      This was precisely the point I was trying to make. The book has caused many people to start making sweeping statements about ‘crimes’, but I wanted to point out that Oppenheim is not overtly accusing anyone of any illegalities.

    • @michaelnamikas8184
      @michaelnamikas8184 Před 2 lety

      @@Persolaise he may not be saying “this is a crime,” but my point is that doesn’t mean the conduct he describes is not a crime.