Why is Vine Street on the Monopoly Board?

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
  • Vine Street, W1 is easily the most obscure property on the London version of the Monopoly board.
    Compared to other properties such as King's Cross Station, Marylebone Station, Piccadilly, the Old Kent Road, Regent Street and so on, it's hardly a household name and, in reality, Vine Street appears to be nothing more than a little dead end, used as a service area for a hotel and other businesses.
    There's a lot more to Vine Street than meets the eye though... and in this video we'll be looking at its intriguing history- including, of course, the reason why it ended up on the Monopoly board!
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    02:19 The London Version of Monopoly
    04:28 The History of Vine Street
    06:51 A Bizarre Death...
    10:09 Why Vine Street?
    11:22 Vine Street Police Station
    18:27 Outro
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    Music used in this video:
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Komentáře • 572

  • @Robslondon
    @Robslondon  Před rokem +40

    Thanks so much for watching! If you had the chance to design the London Monopoly board from scratch, what properties would you include? Please be sure to let me know in the comments....

    • @brianparker663
      @brianparker663 Před rokem +13

      For me, it would have to include Abbey Road, Lord's and The Oval. 😃🏏🚶🚶‍♂🚶🚶‍♂

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +5

      @@brianparker663 And they would be excellent choices Brian!

    • @arejayseeottawa
      @arejayseeottawa Před rokem +6

      Canary Wharf!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      @@arejayseeottawa Good one Robert ;-)

    • @robertlordan3084
      @robertlordan3084 Před rokem

      @@Robslondon Cheers Robert!

  • @Charstring
    @Charstring Před rokem +168

    Top video! An Americus Oglethorpe shows up the London Metropolitan Archives in a document from 1751 submitted to the magistrates at the Middlesex sessions. He he had been indentured as an apprentice to a mariner, William Tiffin for 7 years starting 14 June 1746 but Mr Tiffin died leaving Americus in the lurch. He was asking to be discharged from the apprenticeship because Mr Tiffin’s sister was trying to force him to do unpaid work for her.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +41

      What a fantastic find. Thank you so much! Brings a lot of clarity to the story. Many thanks again and stay well 😊

    • @Alan_Duval
      @Alan_Duval Před měsícem +5

      Just to add to this, both Americus and Oglethorpe are towns in Georgia, a mere 20 miles apart.
      Maybe the individual in question was born in Andersonville (approximately halfway between Americus and Oglethorpe), but decided that wasn't great as a personal name.

    • @christopheralthouse6378
      @christopheralthouse6378 Před měsícem +3

      @@Alan_DuvalIf said individual was around anytime close to the American Civil War, I could certainly see the desire to distance oneself from Andersonville as it was home to one of the most notorious Confederate prison camps of the war…😳😬

    • @Alan_Duval
      @Alan_Duval Před měsícem +1

      @@christopheralthouse6378 Super interesting. Thanks!

    • @christopheralthouse6378
      @christopheralthouse6378 Před měsícem +4

      @@Alan_Duval Definitely! Andersonville Prison Camp has a rather unfortunate connection to my family as one of my ancestors (on my maternal grandmother’s side) died as a Union POW in that camp. Grandma spent quite a few years working to get the name on his gravestone corrected.
      William P. Vandever, if one ever gets curious enough to see…

  • @davidjones332
    @davidjones332 Před rokem +56

    "I'm taking my secretary to London to research locations for a board game" must be the most original excuse for a dirty weekend ever!

  • @antonysebastianclegg8498
    @antonysebastianclegg8498 Před měsícem +53

    A few years ago, a group of us tried to complete the Monopoly Board pub crawl for a stag do. Our original plan to only drink a half at each stop soon deteriorated into pints and then shots for completing sides of the board. Needless to say, we didn’t quite finish it and had to visit four or five of the posher addresses the following weekend (a tip if plan to try it: don’t leave the more upmarket places till the end because you won’t find many pubs willing to allow a large group of already drunk men to enter - especially after midnight). Anyway, the one address we really struggled to find was Vine Street and we did wonder at the time why it was on the board. Now our questions are answered. Thanks for the video!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před měsícem +5

      Ha ha! Great comment Antony, thank you... and you're braver than me! ;-)

    • @hughjaars2285
      @hughjaars2285 Před měsícem +4

      We went for wine from a wine box for Vine Street 😅on our monopoly board pub crawl. Need to start on the Brown ones as some of the pubs there open earlier. And yes, we did include railway stations!

  • @jeremysanderson9673
    @jeremysanderson9673 Před rokem +42

    Fascinating and well researched. I was a Police Office in the 1980s to 1990s, and Vine Street was the last station I served in. It was still one of the busiest nicks in London then, mainly covering the Regent Street, Piccadilly and Soho area. Pub kicking-out time at the weekends was the busiest time, running fights with loud drunks right through to the early hours. I still have chronic back pain as a memento!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +4

      Ha ha! Cheers Jeremy ;-) Stay well.

    • @Colganology
      @Colganology Před 2 měsíci +2

      We might have passed each other like shift workers in the night! I was there from 1985 to 1989 :)

  • @johndaarteest
    @johndaarteest Před rokem +23

    Shane McGowan sings about Vine Street police station in the song 'The Ol' Main Drag' "between the metal doors at Vine Street I was beaten and mauled, and they ruined my good looks for the old main drag"

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +4

      Ha ha! Yes indeed! I toyed with the idea of mentioning it, but thought it would be too controversial for this family channel! 😉

  • @CorvoFG
    @CorvoFG Před rokem +53

    Hi Rob. Regarding the train robbers. They did use Monopoly money. The mistake they made was not clearing it up and it had their fingerprints all over it. In some cases, this helped with their convictions. I have always wondered why a relatively insignificant street appears on the board tho! Cheers.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +9

      Ah! I would’ve used real cash personally if there were stacks of it lying around! 😂

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery Před rokem +12

    The only thing I know about Vine Street is that there was a Police Station there. It was also regarded, by some people, to be haunted by the ghost of a policeman who hanged himself in the cells. The atmosphere in some parts of the place was said to be unpleasantly oppressive, and gloomy. (even after it re-opened in the 1970's). I was told this by my late mother, who was a Metropolitan Police 'Special', in the mid 1950's. She never believed in ghosts or the supernatural, but the fact the story was told to her by stolid, unimaginative Policemen of the 'old school', who just stated it as fact, and were not trying to scare a 20 year old girl. The station was closed by the time mum was in the met, but she said she went to lots of places that just felt 'wrong', for no apparent reason, whilst on the beat and, being a tremendously rational person, it annoyed her that she could never find out why.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +5

      Ha ha! Yes... from what I've heard, the ghost is of a former bent copper- he took a lot of bribes in the early 20th century and apparently made a fortune. When he got found out, he promptly took his own life...

  • @andicheese1763
    @andicheese1763 Před rokem +41

    Amazing to think such a tiny street has so much history. Thanks for the research and sharing. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      It's an absolute pleasure Andi; thanks so much for watching.

    • @likklej8
      @likklej8 Před rokem +3

      There used to be an imports record store in the mid 60s The underpass under the station is interesting the Ship and Shovel is a good pub for tourists

  • @stevethornhill3304
    @stevethornhill3304 Před rokem +14

    I used to be a police officer working for some time at the metropolitan police station in Vine Street,it closed in 1997

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      You must have some interesting stories to tell Steve

    • @johntailing5283
      @johntailing5283 Před měsícem

      As seen regularly on ‘Police5’ 🤭

  • @robertwells252
    @robertwells252 Před rokem +16

    Rob great research brings back memories. I served as a Det Sgt at Vine Street for 3 years in the 70s what a tremendous area the best posting I had in the 30 year service and although busy was so well organised you didn’t really notice it was the busiest police station in Europe well done great video 19:45

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Wonderful comment Robert, thank you so much. I bet you have quite a few stories to tell?! Thanks again for the kind words and stay well.

  • @johnbacon1854
    @johnbacon1854 Před rokem +43

    Rob, you have done it again. What an amazing walk through history, of a small Street in London. Incredible. You really brought Vine Street to Life. The history of how Monopoly was created was great in itself, but then to go through the eras, the changes and the stories you found just gave me a whole new history lesson on this little place.
    So sad about the little girl and the cheese block. You have just brought her memory back, and although she was only 4 when she passed, her memory continues to live on in History now.
    I loved the tie in to the third Bond Book, Moonraker. I am a huge Ian Fleming Fan, and the Bond series as a whole.
    It may just be a service road in modern standards today, but it trully deserves its place on the Board after seeing all this.
    I am not sure how many other Streets you have covered with the Monopoly tie in, but for sure this could be an awesome series of videos if you continue doing more.
    Wishing you and your family all the best as always.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +7

      Thank you so much John; a lovely, lovely comment and just the sort of incredibly kind words which keep me going. Thank you again my friend and stay well.

  • @veehoggard
    @veehoggard Před rokem +11

    There's a fabulous book by Tim Moore called "Do Not Pass Go" which has the history of all the squares on the Monopoly Board.
    This however was another level Rob, great research. I wonder if you fancy doing a full series about Monopoly?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +10

      Thank you so much Victoria 😊 I’ve not heard of that book, will have to look it up… as for a series, I’d be up for it if people would be happy to watch!

    • @surreygoldprospector576
      @surreygoldprospector576 Před rokem +1

      Tim Moore was in my class at school! And yes, that book is very funny - recommended.

  • @PaulB-17
    @PaulB-17 Před rokem +6

    Rob I am sure you are to young to remember a radio show called listen with Mother. As children when it came on the radio we would be settled down with a mug of milk and some cake or biscuits to listen to the story, Well now 50 years later on the opposite side of the world I find my self doing the same thing when I see you have uploaded. Make a nice cup of tea piece of fruit cake and settle into the armchair to enjoy your story. such a relaxing pleasure, coming from close to Harrow your accent takes me back and adds to the London vibe.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      That is such a lovely comment Paul, thank you :-) Hope you're keeping well and thanks again.

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 Před rokem +9

    I've never been to London & odds are I never shall, but I love your channel! My Grandfather, a veteran of the Royal Field Artillery in the Great War, used to tell me where all the good pubs were. Of course, most of them had been bombed out during the Blitz. My Mum lived through the Blitz. I love learning the history of London.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      Such a wonderful comment Jovan, thank you. Your mother and grandfather sound like the sort of people I would loved to have listened to.
      I hope you do make it here one day… stay well my friend.

  • @davidfarrell3539
    @davidfarrell3539 Před rokem +12

    Another truly amazing video Rob, thank you so much. By strange coincidence I am reading 'Right Ho Jeeves' by P.G. Wodehouse, in which Bertie Wooster reminisces being 'hauled off to Vine Street Police Station' on Boat Race night and to avoid a drunk and disorderly fine 'assumed in a flash the identity of Eustace H. Plimsoll'. Doubt you could get away with that today, but if the circumstances arise I might just give it a try. Also, regarding Swallow Street: there is a Swallow Passage on the south side of Oxford Street. I wonder if they were both once connected?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Lovely comment David, thank you so much. I didn't know Vine Street police station as mentioned in that book! Swallow Passage I'm not sure about, will have to look into it... .thanks again and stay well.

  • @kingsleysuessenbach7328
    @kingsleysuessenbach7328 Před rokem +9

    I love your presentation style Rob. The unhurried, conversational nature of your voiceover has the charming qualities of being both engaging and relaxing.
    Very enjoyable.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      That means so much to me Kingsley, thank you my friend. Cheers and stay well.

  • @snowymatrix
    @snowymatrix Před rokem +7

    I was born in London quite a long time ago. I always learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. This one was outstanding! Thanks man👍🍺🍺

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Nice comment; thanks and thank you for watching 😉

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart Před rokem +17

    Brilliantly researched as always Rob, and finding the legal connection between the orange sites was just genius. Your content is so good that I'm sure you could make a book out of it (I know that you're already an author).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much :-) I'd love to write more books, but it would appear online is the way to go now.... you never know though ;-)

    • @ChrisSmith-ls7mb
      @ChrisSmith-ls7mb Před rokem +1

      Hello Rob
      An excellent video. Love the Monopoly facts. The company I work for just celebrated it's 100th anniversary and we sold a special Monopoly game based on our company. We now have three different board sets, the American original an London one and our company one. Loved the Only Fools and Horses clip. Thanks Take Care Chris and Sandra of Canada.

  • @thetragicyouth
    @thetragicyouth Před rokem +11

    Rob, your videos never fail to inform and enchant - the perfect start to a Sunday evening! Wasn't there also a fairly notable police station at Gerald Road, near Eaton Square (I believe it featured in many 'well to do' scandals from the 1930s onwards)? On a side note, several decades ago I stayed overnight at the Cadogan Hotel in the very room where Wilde was arrested - no ghosts, alas.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      That means a lot to me, thank you so much. Don’t know about the Gerald Road station, will have to look into it! And that’s quite something; staying in the great Oscar Wilde’s room! Very jealous! 😉 Stay well and thanks again

  • @simonfowler1290
    @simonfowler1290 Před rokem +5

    Brilliant Rob, well done on all the research! I knew the police station well, I joined the Met in 1983. So many police stations closing & being demolished, Chelsea police station in Lucan Place, SW3 being the latest to go under the swinging bal...

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Many thanks Simon. Yes, even West End Central is now closed as you’ll know.
      Would loved to have seen inside Vine Street station (as a non-criminal of course!) Thanks again and stay well

  • @RemnantCult
    @RemnantCult Před měsícem +2

    As an American, I have always been interested in hearing the reasoning behind the street names in the UK version of monopoly. Brilliant video. I'm fascinated by UK and English history.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před měsícem

      Thank you! Lovely comment 😉

  • @nicolek4076
    @nicolek4076 Před rokem +9

    Always worth the wait ... another perfectly-formed little gem from Rob. I've not lived in London for many years, but his rambles through the streets and history always create a pang if nostalgia. Thank you, Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It's a pleasure as always Nicole, thank you so much for the kind words :-)

  • @paulmerryman
    @paulmerryman Před rokem +10

    I can't begin to believe how much research goes into these video's. Amazing work as always Rob, very informative.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      Thank you so much Paul, really appreciate your kind words. Stay well mate.

  • @kokobwild2413
    @kokobwild2413 Před rokem +3

    Nice of him to take his secretary down from Leeds for that weekend in London.

  • @NDKY67
    @NDKY67 Před rokem +4

    My little sister would always cheat at Monopoly, stealing money from the bank. I lost her last year, memories of her stealing Monopoly money make me smile now, she was a very special person, even though she was a cheat at board games.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      A truly beautiful comment Nicholas; your words moved me very much.
      Thank you so much for taking the time to share memories of your sister here; I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
      Take care my friend, and thank you again.

  • @martharunstheworld
    @martharunstheworld Před rokem +6

    What a great story! Thanks Rob! Monopoly was always my favorite game as a kid, but I won't lie, I've turned that darn board over a time or two.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thank you so much Martha :-) Stay well.

  • @Colganology
    @Colganology Před rokem +3

    I used to work at Vine Street Police Station! Long gone now, as is Bow Street.

  • @clivefelgate9802
    @clivefelgate9802 Před rokem +4

    As always a great vid Rob. As a child played this with my Gran, mum and dad and brothers and sister. Have played with my kids and now with my grand kids! Somethings never go out of fashion.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Lovely comment Clive, thank you. Yes, I think Monopoly will always be here. Stay well 😉

  • @badgerello
    @badgerello Před rokem +5

    Brilliant - past go and claim a new sub. We in Australia grew up with the UK version years before we got our own state specific Monopoly boards. Love that game and love this story.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Such a lovely comment Brad, thank you so much for the kind words mate. Really good to have you here! Cheers and stay well 🇦🇺

  • @garyphisher7375
    @garyphisher7375 Před rokem +3

    I've been fishing at the pond by Bridego Bridge, where the robbery happened. You always get a few people visiting, who know a great deal about the robbery. Always fascinating listening to them.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      I noticed the fishing area when filming this Gary 😉

  • @BobMuir100
    @BobMuir100 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wonderful!! I am a Londoner now living Manchester far too far away from the Emirates (or Highbury) but needs must. However it’s great to get such a London ‘fix’ such as this piece. I knew very little about this story so was doubly pleased.
    Thanks
    Bob
    England

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks so much Bob; appreciate the kind words! Cheers ;-)

  • @josh0g
    @josh0g Před měsícem +1

    What a unique way to research history, and really come across a lot of interesting stories.

  • @TheCardiganR
    @TheCardiganR Před rokem +3

    I knew Vine Street from despatching in London in the mid 80s. I also got to know Great Marlborough Street from an appearance in the magistrates Court for having a missing L plate on my scooter after getting pulled in Regent Street. This was before the days of Instant fines. The copper was determined to get me for something, I remember he went over everything on the scoter. Grrr!, still riles me today. 😉

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce Před rokem +3

    I used to work very close to there, and I didn't know it existed. I recognise most of the other nearby streets you showed in the video, but not Vine Street.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Katrina, hope you found it interesting 😊

  • @TheHarrip
    @TheHarrip Před rokem +1

    Fantastic work yet again my friend. Thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      It’s an absolute pleasure my friend; thanks for watching and stay well.

  • @bryan3550
    @bryan3550 Před rokem +3

    Fascinating stuff, as usual, Rob! Excellent research. 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thanks so much Bryan! Hope you’re keeping well

  • @raymonde4272
    @raymonde4272 Před rokem +4

    Fascinating stuff once again Rob. It's always amazing how much history even the most unassuming of streets has.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thanks Raymonda :-) Yes; it never ceases to amaze me how much history is hidden away out there....

  • @lindahart6049
    @lindahart6049 Před rokem +5

    Rob, your research is amazing! Each video is so interesting, and you tie up all the loose ends so effortlessly. I look forward to each one.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thank you Linda! Really kind of you to say :-) Stay well.

  • @markcarson8
    @markcarson8 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for all your hard work Rob, enjoyed that.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thanks so much Mark, really appreciate your support. Stay well.

  • @vickypedias
    @vickypedias Před rokem +2

    What an excellent channel and video! Love you Rob!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      That means a lot to me, thank you Viktoria 😊

  • @dabsan
    @dabsan Před rokem +2

    It's always such a absolute pleasure to watch your videos, so interesting and very well researched. I am very much looking forward to watching your future videos.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Really appreciate your kind words Darren; they mean a lot to me. Stay well mate.

  • @Rachel-bo3qg
    @Rachel-bo3qg Před rokem +1

    Yet another well researched video ! Great work.

  • @dougknight1720
    @dougknight1720 Před rokem +4

    Loved it. Really interesting documentary as always. Nice to know a History of Monopoly and some of the Streets behind it.Thanks again Rob, keep up the good work

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor Před rokem +3

    Park Place on traditional American Monopoly boards is similarly short and discrete only being one single block that's rarely traveled and even a lot of people born and raised in Atlantic City could not tell you where Park Place is or was. It's possibly even smaller then Vine Street in London today.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Great comment, thank you- I’m intrigued now 😉

  • @annettescott5884
    @annettescott5884 Před rokem +3

    Wow Rob - that’s an impressive and complex piece of research! Thanks for another great video 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      It's a pleasure Annette, thank you so much for the kind words 🙂

  • @nicholaswalker2494
    @nicholaswalker2494 Před rokem +4

    Hi Rob super video,happy to know that Victor and Marjorie came from My home county “God’s own”I happened to find a old German Monopoly set in the recycling centre and the Vine Street equivalent is called Berliner Straße and costs 4000 Marks.All the property names are standardised like the station’s are named main,north and south etc.The street names also like Park,Museum,station,new and direction streets like Munich and Berliner Straße.Not any kind of imagination as our beloved game.Cheers mate and thanks once again 👍👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Brilliant comment Nicholas, thank you. Leeds is a great city 😉

  • @sharonleong7120
    @sharonleong7120 Před rokem +4

    Great content. I like it too. Thanks Robert.👍👍👍💜💜💜

  • @richiesimons4403
    @richiesimons4403 Před rokem +3

    That was a thoroughly interesting and enjoyable video.
    Thank you Rob. Brought back fond memories of my time living in London.
    I lived in Angel Islington for 18 months and loved it there.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It's an absolute pleasure Richie; thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching! Stay well.

  • @BonBonB
    @BonBonB Před měsícem +2

    Superbly written and edited video. Nice work!

  • @BdManus
    @BdManus Před rokem +4

    Hi from Texas. Excellent video. I am simply amazed how you find all of the research to tell the stories that you do.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Truly appreciate that Bd Manus, thank you my friend. Great to have someone from Texas here! Thanks again and stay well.

  • @filipweemaes1926
    @filipweemaes1926 Před rokem +5

    Always fascinating storytelling 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Really appreciate that Filip; thank you so much my friend. Stay well.

  • @richardbrayshaw570
    @richardbrayshaw570 Před rokem +3

    Cheers Rob. Really loving these videos that bring my adopted home city to life.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Absolute pleasure Richard, glad you like them! Thanks for watching and stay well.

  • @brianparker663
    @brianparker663 Před rokem +7

    Another fascinating and well-researched video Rob. I'm told that professional Monopoly players (who knew there was such a thing!?) very much covet the orange set as opponents leaving jail are very likely to land there. 🤑

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +2

      Cheers Brian! I didn’t know that, very interesting- will have to bear it in mind next time I play 😉

  • @ladymissp1880
    @ladymissp1880 Před rokem +2

    Great research, so detailed and informative! Just came up in my feed and now a subscriber! Lived in London from 1980-2002 and loved everything about it; never bored always something new to discover and I’m now going to continue exploring via your videos!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Lovely comment LadyMissP, thank you! It's great to have you here 🙂

    • @thewrecker3140
      @thewrecker3140 Před rokem +1

      What a smashing post

  • @M500VYN
    @M500VYN Před rokem +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for your research and producing this article. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It’s a pleasure Melvyn, thank you so much for watching.

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Před rokem +3

    Thank you Rob - yet another fascinating video. I'm very interested in the sites of now demolished buildings, especially in central London - trying to imagine the scene at each location in times past. Your impeccable research is therefore greatly appreciated!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Glad to be of service, William :-) Thank you so much for the kind words.

  • @calhungus
    @calhungus Před rokem +2

    Brilliant video Rob,what an interesting subject for a video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Much appreciated Cal, thanks for watching 😊

  • @thewrecker3140
    @thewrecker3140 Před rokem +1

    Outstanding work Rob.

  • @martycrow
    @martycrow Před rokem +1

    Great research and engaging presentation style. Thank you Rob!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Much appreciated, thanks for watching 😊

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow Před rokem +1

      @@Robslondon Subscribed too! Looking forward to viewing more. All the best!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      @@martycrow Lovely! Thank you 🙂

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac Před rokem +3

    I love your videos so much Rob, especially when they don't go too far east 🙂
    Not being a Monopoly man 'Vine Street Police Station' has always been the phrase or name that pops into my mind but I don't believe I have ever stepped in Vine Street itself. Though I've sold books to a dealer in (I think) Albemarle Street and have perused the stalls in front of St James' Church I think of myself as on the Regent Street side of things rather than the Picadilly, which apart from the Royal Academy has never interested me as much. When I was young it was Hamleys and in the late sixties the guitar shops in Shaftesbury Avenue and Charing Cross Road and then when working with a Thai gentleman with an intrepid streak in the '80s, eating at all manner of Chinese and Indian restaurants that he had uncovered in his travels.
    Thanks again Rob, for all your work. I enjoyed your Monopoly inspired graphics.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      What a brilliant comment!
      Thank you as always Paul, really enjoy hearing your memories- it’s important to share them, for it’s how people in the future will gain a window into our lives.
      Thanks again my friend and stay well.

  • @tamarmolerick3814
    @tamarmolerick3814 Před rokem +2

    Vine Street police station gets a mention in the Pogues song "Old main drag".

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Yep! I did want to mention it... but also have to keep it clean ;-)

  • @philipdove6987
    @philipdove6987 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Vine street and the orange is the best investment in monopoly. Cheap to buy and develop, but with crippling rents if you have 4 houses or hotels. If you land on go then the statistical chance of throwing a combination of throws that puts you on an orange property is around 50%. The orange set are a real cash cow

  • @Mooocheropordis
    @Mooocheropordis Před rokem +2

    I was once incarcerated at Islington nick for the night in Tolpuddle st. Unfortunately I never had the pleasure of sampling the delights of Vine St. Great Video!

  • @mikereilly5005
    @mikereilly5005 Před rokem +1

    Hi Rob
    Thoroughly enjoyed that one, I know all of the areas you mentioned, but once again, you have shown me the history, as with all your videos, I always make a point of driving past the locations,
    Thank you
    All the best
    Mike

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thanks so much Mike, hope you’re keeping well.

  • @Byzmax
    @Byzmax Před rokem +1

    Amazing video presented so well.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thank you so much Iain. Cheers and stay well.

  • @connie_d
    @connie_d Před rokem +1

    the title was intriguing but this vid is even more fascinating than i expected. really good work.
    just wish there was the same vast amount of information presented this well about all our other cities as there is about london.
    if anyone has any suggestions pls let me know.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Your comment has made my day; thank you so much! Really appreciate your kind words.
      Cheers and stay well 🙂

  • @seansersmylie
    @seansersmylie Před rokem +1

    Fantastic little slice of history, thanks very much!

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753 Před rokem +1

    A very enjoyable vid Rob.
    Thanks.

  • @SeventhSwell
    @SeventhSwell Před rokem +2

    Very interesting video. Thanks!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Much appreciated; thanks for watching 😊

  • @mjwemdee
    @mjwemdee Před rokem +1

    A great video - and evidently took a lot of effort to put together! I live in the Netherlands now, but still homesick for London every now and then. Every street has a story to tell.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Such a beautiful comment, thank you so much mjwemdee. Stay well my friend.

  • @kerryannestevenson6099
    @kerryannestevenson6099 Před rokem +1

    That was fascinating as usual Rob.

  • @Slycockney
    @Slycockney Před rokem +2

    Brilliant video Rob, really enjoyed it. Vine Street is a location I have walked past hundreds of times and not even noticed it is there, feel a bit guilty now.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much! And I’m sure you’re not alone; I was guilty of that until recently!

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 Před rokem +2

    Thank You Rob , for making this interesting episode today !
    Cheers from California 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It's a pleasure Olin! Hope life in California is treating you well ;-) Cheers and stay well.

  • @priscillamontoya
    @priscillamontoya Před rokem +2

    I love your channel so much. Thank you. ❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much Priscilla :-) I couldn't do it without the lovely support of wonderful people such as yourself. Stay well and thanks again.

  • @butchknapman3939
    @butchknapman3939 Před rokem +2

    Rob, greetings to you again from Thailand, oh Monopoly as kids my brother always had to be the Banker and sometimes games went on for days. As always yet again very interesting and thought provoking video. August 1993 I was actually working on a farm in Buckinghamshire a little more than a stones throw from Leatherslade farm , the concrete track in those was mud and there lies a story of its own. Looking out for the next video

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Great comment Butch, thank you! Hope you're keeping well.

  • @Jsmith2024
    @Jsmith2024 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you. Your depth of knowledge and presentation are exceptional. I have been to London a few times but am not familiar with Vine St.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před měsícem

      I appreciate that Jeff; many thanks sir.

  • @JTonson
    @JTonson Před rokem +1

    Absolutely fascinating - well done

  • @SLane249
    @SLane249 Před rokem +2

    Another "I never knew that" video, great job ! Thanks for your work.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Much appreciated Stephen! Cheers 😉

  • @ruthdorward6105
    @ruthdorward6105 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very interesting! Looking forward to exploring London again. Hi from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks Ruth! Hope you make it back here soon.

  • @Alan_Duval
    @Alan_Duval Před měsícem +1

    How cool! I've been to that Bermondsey Street watchhouse cafe :D
    I was watching this as a follow-up to my finding out that the choice of train stations on the Monopoly board was due to the fact that those stations served Leeds, unlike the other, sometimes larger and more important stations (e.g. Waterloo, London Bridge, Paddington).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před měsícem

      Thanks Alan! And that’s a very interesting fact 😉

  • @callycat6660
    @callycat6660 Před rokem +2

    Thankyou Rob this is so interesting ..I lived in London for many happy years and it's wonderful finding out the History from the past 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Such a lovely comment Cally cat, thank you :-)

  • @mickey4125
    @mickey4125 Před rokem +2

    Fantastic as always Rob me old mucker! That whole Vine Street- Little Vine Street switcheroo seems like much ado about nothing, a very strange affair!
    With love from Yorkshire x

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Chew Mickey! And yes, very much in agreement 😉

  • @samsaunders6738
    @samsaunders6738 Před měsícem +1

    This is great Rob, I used to work at the hotel and have fond memories of coming into work through Vine street, always wondered why it was on the board and now I know 😊. Anyway, thanks for bringing back some great memories and enlightening me at the same time!

  • @andrewniles9479
    @andrewniles9479 Před rokem +4

    The railway stations on the Monopoly board are a bit weird. You might expect Paddington, Waterloo, Victoria etc. instead of Marylebone, Fenchurch St. & Liverpool Street but the London & North Eastern paid Waddington's to feature their stations.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Andrew, they are an odd choice for sure!

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 Před rokem +1

      That makes sense. From 1923 to 1948 the London and North Eastern Railway were one of the "Big Four" companies, amalgamated from numerous smaller railways. When Waddington took on British marketing of the game in the 1930s, Leeds was on the LNER. I'd always wondered why those stations were chosen over more obvious contenders.

  • @hannahk1306
    @hannahk1306 Před rokem +2

    Thanks, I've taken part in Monopoly Run Live (you play Monopoly by visiting the real life locations from the London Monopoly board) a few times now and always wondered why Vine Street seemed to be down a random back alley. Now, if my Guides ask me when we play again in a few weeks time, I can tell them that it used to be the location of an important police station.
    I think a modern version would probably centre around the attractions of London, e.g. one colour set for the museums, as well as places like the London Eye, Tower of London and London Dungeons being included. You could also have well-known buildings like the Shard, Gherkin and Walkie-talkie on there.
    In terms of stations, Waterloo, Paddington, Liverpool Street and one of Euston/St Pancras/King's Cross would be good options for the four corners of London.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Brilliant comment Hannah, I enjoyed reading that. I didn't realise there was a Monopoly run! Cheers and stay well :-)

    • @hannahk1306
      @hannahk1306 Před rokem +1

      @@Robslondon Yeah, it happens on the first Saturday in March every year, but it's only open to people in Scouting and Guiding. So if you see loads of kids (and adults) in uniform running about London on 4th March you know why.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It's due soon then!

  • @tonycox5625
    @tonycox5625 Před rokem +3

    Thanks Rob, still got our old Monopoly game dating back to the early 60s, who knew that Vine Street had so much history?! 👍😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thanks Tony ;-) Yes, it's an interesting little place for sure.

  • @raystewart3648
    @raystewart3648 Před rokem +2

    JUST Subscribed.
    Very good history lesson of Vine St, a street I have past many hundreds of times, but with very little knowledge or any at all about it.
    There is another story about Swallow Street or near by it, that its where a murder took place in 1896 of two young boys, but the case was not followed, as the boys where part of the Dove-Row Gang.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Ray! That's interesting about Swallow Street, I wasn't aware of that...

  • @alanchriston6806
    @alanchriston6806 Před rokem +1

    Rob,
    Superb video. Once again
    😊🏴‍☠️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Much appreciated Alan, thank you. Hope you're keeping well.

    • @alanchriston6806
      @alanchriston6806 Před rokem +1

      @@Robslondon always much better , especially on a Monday morning, after watching and listening to one of your fabulous London videos.
      The Best city in the World
      Always a Treat
      😊🏴‍☠️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      @@alanchriston6806 Thanks!

  • @jillwalker925
    @jillwalker925 Před rokem +1

    great storytelling! well-paced & voiced. brian potiki

  • @gmdhargreaves
    @gmdhargreaves Před rokem +2

    Fascinating video- great free education- I love it I really love it❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      That you so much ☺️ Your kind words mean a great deal to me, thank you for watching and stay well.

  • @callycat6660
    @callycat6660 Před rokem +1

    Fabulous video so interesting ..It's very nostalgic for me as I used to live in London for a good few years and will be fascinating for me to see your other video's ..Subscribed and Thankyou 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      It's wonderful to have you here Cally cat! Thank you so much for the kind words :-) Stay well.

    • @callycat6660
      @callycat6660 Před rokem +1

      @@Robslondon Thankyou 💙

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      @@callycat6660 🙂

  • @piepowered
    @piepowered Před rokem +1

    Fascinating stuff. Thanks!

  • @leifvejby8023
    @leifvejby8023 Před rokem +1

    Didn't know that I didn't know this, and certainly not that it was a very interesting tale! Thanks!!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thanks very much for watching, Leif Vejby :-) Stay well.

  • @jstefens
    @jstefens Před měsícem +1

    Just want to say I love your channel.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před měsícem +1

      That means a lot to me, thank you! ☺️

  • @faithpearlgenied-a5517
    @faithpearlgenied-a5517 Před rokem +1

    Wow, such an interesting video :) just discovered your channel. Can't wait to check out more.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      Thank you so much! It's great to have you here 🙂

  • @LanceRylance
    @LanceRylance Před 26 dny +1

    Great episode i loved it it was very interesting

  • @totspur6376
    @totspur6376 Před rokem +1

    This is brilliant. Thank you Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem

      It’s an absolute pleasure, thanks for watching 😊

  • @nelliemelba4967
    @nelliemelba4967 Před rokem +1

    Ahh, so that's Vine Street! Nice informative video, Rob, thank you.

  • @barrywa39
    @barrywa39 Před rokem +1

    Hi Rob, catching up on your videos that I haven't seen. Another brilliant video my friend. Almost 20 minutes passed as if it was only 10 minutes. Seeing as St James's is my favourite area of London, I would have to say that St James's Street, Jermyn Street, Pickering Place, and Arlington Street should be included on the Monopoly board. As for the colour that they should have, it could only be Eau de Nil, Fortnum & Mason's colour.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  Před rokem +1

      Lovely comment Barry, and it's great to see you here!