Thanks Scott! I have to say that I recently had to re-watch my own video because I had to re-time my FWS again. Yikes. I did skip the nap this time,.....I was in a hurry.
@OurJourneyInMyles ill definitely come back to this if I get into this situation but right now, got to get it working first. I do enjoy the energy you and your wife put into your videos! My wife and I definitely enjoy both of you and as first time rv'ers, thank you for the tips you've shared!
How has the multi screw repair you did holding up? By the way, you can do a thru bolt for a few of the screws by accessing under the bed with 2.5 inch screws.
Multi-screw repair did the trick! The plate I had to re-screw in was my kitchen slide. The other side of the slide floor is not accessible because the slide mechanism wood cover "sled" has my permanent desk mounted to it. MAJOR surgery would have had to happen! Its ben almost 5 years, knock on wood!
@@OurJourneyInMyles Thank you so much for the reply; I just finished multi screwing my bedroom plate back in based on your video. Thanks again for the assistance
@@TonyRoche-wh1dn Some of my issue was "standing on the button" too long. It the stop limits aren't set right, standing on the button too long will make it try to continue to DRIVE the mechanism past a point that when "maybe" it shouldn't. I always WATCH the slide like a hawk during operation. I make CERTAIN I am pressing the right direction. If I need the slide IN,......I starting saying, IN, IN, IN many times incase I am actually ready to press the OUT button by mistake! I hace become my own slide limit control now as needed!
Love your videos. You explain things well & I love your sense of humor ! IF you have trouble with your slides again there are 2 ways to improve that repair. Anytime you have holes that need to be filled you can inject urethane glue into the holes & insert toothpics to fill that hole permanently. Let it dry overnight, trim off the excess & reinstall your screws. 2, IF you can access the inboard side (floor) bolting straight thru the floor & cog track & installing thru bolts with blue Loctite, will give you a repair that will not fail. A mechanic & home renovator by trade, we're looking for our 1st coach & your videos have been scary, reassuring & definitely informing ! Keep it up !!
My brother in law gave me this tip he has a construction company, I don't know if this will help with what your doing, but its worth a try. This worked on a door hinge that fell off, take wooden toothpicks and dip in woodglue then tap into hole and then put a new screw in!! Worked like a charm😊 and its still holding 2 years later! Safe travels to you and Sue😊🤗❤
@@mrjlbarrett5556 Just to make sure your bedroom slide cog plate screws are snug. Mine "may" have been loosened up for a while before my failure, although I kind of doubt it,......
I spent 60$ buying 4 common size vise grips by Irwin. I got tired of buying the knock off Chine brands and having them bent or not adjust when I need them to. I hope I don't need them because that was 6 months ago and I have no idea where they are now.
I think RV owners with slides will have trouble with them eventually. We all need to know that, expect it, and budget for it. We should all keep track of who's slides are the worst, and should all stop buying that brands RVs,......period. That would wake up at least one company. Enough is enough.
You are just so darn handy Mark. Sorry you had these problems but glad you had the tools, parts and knowhow to get it fixed. Look forward to meeting up with you and Sue in Florida this winter. Have an awesome week and safe travels! Michael & Tiffany 👍😎🚍🌴
I'm thinking the first time we will meet will be in at the Tampa RV Show! We will be in the North Fort Myers area were it is noticeably warmer than Orlando! Find a TT near there if you can. It's a great area.
Slide issues for someone on a limited time vacation trip must be an absolute nightmare. At least being retired, I can take all this in stride. I am planning a visit in November 2019 to National Indoor RV Center to get the bedroom slide dialed back in.
When looking at your channel, the rv living cost video really made the channel take off. That was the video that brought me to your channel right after it came out. Sorry you are having so many issues with the slides
Its way more trouble than I expected for such an expensive and highly rated rig. It is what it is,.....and I felt compelled to share this issue so others aren't as surprised as I was.
Oh Boy, I feel your pain... I just had to change out our gear pac on our big slide for the 2 time and it still seems to have some issues. We love these slides but they sure do need lots of love and pampering on occasion. I was very impressed with "Can Do" attitude as well as your supply of parts and tools that you carry and hope you dont have to use them too often but it sure is nice to have when you do need them.
Hey Bob, we also have replaced one of the gearboxes as well,.......the one that is under our bed. My "CAN DO" attitude actually was faked. For the first hour after discovering this failure, I cried like a newborn, in the fetal position. Sue was patient, but then started to get our cameras and microphones out. When I asked what she was doing, she told me I have 15 minutes to get my act together. I had a quick jar of mashed bananas, washed up, put on my makeup and yelled to Sue,.........ACTION!
Time will tell with all of the changes in all industries. I lay awake at night, hoping & dreaming of the day that Honda starts to make motorhomes,.....
Awesome job on the fix. My wife (a mechanical engineeer herself) was really enjoying you solutions and your supply of spare parts. And she said to get rid of those chinese screws.
But you have to admit my chinese vise grips came in handy! Inferior nuts, bolts, washers, etc. in the supply chain of manufacturing has become a huge issue. Every company I have worked for has battled it!
Great job guys!!! We have been watching you for awhile. Always looking to keep informed and up to date. Knowledge truly is key. Thanks for the info! Safe travels!
I could see the Engineer side of you shining through Mark. Good looking selection of tools on hand also. Always look forward to your videos each week,You and Sue seem to be really laid back,my kind of people. Safe travels.
The real engineer that came out was the guy that sat in a chair for 40 years, and hardly moved all day. Now,....I am an inflexible, stiff torso with a head & legs! Thank God for my fit wife Sue,....
Fine job on the patient Doc Mark. Its a fine coach sniffles and bugs aside-they all need occasional TLC. As to expenses being high compared to others blah blah- you are doing it your way-no right or wrong there. Great vid-our Dutch baby set for delivery Dec 9 + or -. Have a great day. BNG
Wow! Guess this gal does not want to have to worry about this as a single person. Guess I have to rethink my plans! I would not be able to do this down on my knees and reaching way back to work on this. Good heavens those screws are crazy for what they are to be doing!
Glad you enjoyed it. Personally, I do not like to make these real life adventure videos! Prefer to stick to showing Sue & I going to look at Yellowstone!
Funny you should say that. I guy showed up in our current CG with a three week old 2020 Dutch Star. His Full Wall Slide and Kitchen slide are hydraulic,.....and are very different than the slide in this video. But their bedroom slide still had the same cog plates as mine. ONE OF HIS PLATES WAS LOOSE! OOPS,....
👍👍 Hoping it holds up! Well. You added another reason to why I don't want a bump out. Betting that flooring is OSB. That stuff disintegrates if someone spits on the sidewalk across the road from you, and it's way over used in construction.
I hear you. Full time living without a bump out would be a show stopper for us personally. Maybe I will get a used Prevost next time! Much better slide mechanism.
Great job... even with the limited tools/hardware you had to work with. I pray this type of thing never happens to me. I have an Entegra, but like your Newmar...they cheap out when they can to save costs.
Just knowing you are not alone with this issue will take some of the sting out, if and when it happens. Remember,.......our slides go in and out about 40 times per year. Your mileage may vary.
Have to admire your can do spirit. Probably 9 out of 10 guys would have just reached for their cell phones to call for help. I can tell by the tools and spare parts that you are used to being independent. I hope you can follow-up and swap out the temporary screws with ones up to the task. From the looks of the sheet metal it appears to ride over a toothed gear to push and pull the slide in and out so it needs to stand up to some stress. Great emergency repair.👍
Trust me Gene, I wanted to be one of those guys,.....but I was forced to put on my big boy pants and "man up". Sue gave me back my man card after this, and it has been safely in my wallet ever since. Hope to hold on to it for a while.
Slides definitely are the nemesis of all RV owners,.......but they make the living space for full timers so much easier to "live in". In my next life, I will consider a used Prevost with much better designed slide outs, and see if that works better for me!
I was considering for my first RV a Newmar Dutch Star 2020 4362. Did you get that thing resolved? Optional RV’s for me also are the Prevost country coach or possibly a Super C ShowHauler, heard good things about the slides on the show haulers.
It actually wouldn't be so bad if you coud call somewhere and things fixed "Quick",.....like at an auto dealership. Taking a motorhome in for repairs is like booking a tuneup for the space shuttle. It a big, expensive deal....
Such is the life of an Rver! I wish I was one. My hubby is not interested. I've wanted an Rv for 20 years, but it isn't going to happen. Good luck, I think you did a yeoman's job!
You both have to be REALLY,.... REALLY on board together to make this "tiny home" living thing work. You guys are smart to pursue other things together, and not force this lifestyle on your mate!
Thanks for sharing your pain with us. I can only hope my brand new Palazzo coach does not have slide issues. At my age, I am just not in the mood for this type of fun!
BTW...an Amazon list of things you use and really like while you are full timing in the RV would probably be a nice benefit for those of planning to do the same:)
So the slide wasn't straight flush maybe a royal flush?? Bravo! Another repair for the books. It always feels good after the job is finished. Something about working with my hands is rewarding. Although I would have just emptied the tray pulled it out, place a stool or something under it and laid on it. My neck could not have held up to the strain.
My wife is such a saint, that she could tell I was struggling all the time during the repair. She gave me a fantastic back message after we settled into our next campground. I'm looking forward now for the third slide to break!
Good job! I wonder if there are more troubles with the kitchen slides than any of the others? The rails don't look strong enough to carry the extra load of the kitchen cabinets and appliances! Is anyone keeping stats on these types of problems?
This slide had been our star performer. Now, all three slides have been worked on. The slides have been by far the most expensive thing to keep running.
Just got caught up on your entire library of videos! Really enjoyed them and giggled quite a bit. Not this one though ;) Slide issues are no fun. Can't wait to see what you two are up too next!
Mister Chantler, you have let me seen that what me wuryt along these films nice from out side dom cheap inside i get a hart atack. Not galvanische treatment, no bolt trough and trough , these slides shout and CAN work nicefully for 40 years. Weten you or i designs them and it shoud not cost even a penny more . So madam newmar i wil first look to and by your compatators builders if they do this simpel job better because i have a back ack to like mister Chantler CONCLUSIES better i not so nice desing bumper than a Essential solide montage
I agree Anthony. This design was not in line with the rest of the quality of the rig. The weak link will always break. These slides are so difficult to get repaired correctly once you are on the road, they should be designed three times more robust then they are. I have an appointment in August 2020 to get the full wall slide repaired at the factory in Nappanee Indiana,assuming it will be open during this Covid-19 crisis. I am banking on the factory knowing how to do it.
When I look at what else is out there,.......you have two other choices. The ultra/ultra expensive bombproof Foretravel/Prevost/Newell machine tool design style slide mechanisms that is so awesome, it makes my heart flutter, but I can't afford these coaches. The other is the Schwintech gear and rack design that I personally do not think is anywhere near as good and robust as the Newmar setup. I will stick with Newmar,.....wish it was more robust,...,....but it is what it is,...... PS: Full wall slide is going in for MAJOR REWORK in August at the Newmar factory.
Good Morning Mark & Sue ☕️! Glad to see Myles all stitched up and ready for the next adventure! You might want to add a footlocker full of gold bars to your pro tips list! 😂 Any idea what Newmar recommends for routine maintenance intervals on slides or is this cost-cutting engineering at its best? BTW, nice reference to KYD summer to remember! Safe travels!
The irv2.com website, when searched, has all sorts of things you need to check, monitor and retorque periodically. These tasks vary from brand to brand. As a licensed mechanical engineer for over 40 years, this design is just plain not good enough for a rig this big and expensive. Shame on Newmar.
We actually use two. We have a Progressive Industries EMS-PT50X 50A RV Surge Protector and a Hughes Autoformer RV220-50-SP Voltage Booster/Surge Protector. The autoformer is installed first in line, and THEN the Progress Industries EMS.
Well,.....it did provide some great CZcams video! It just beats your confidence down continually on your rig. You don't want to wonder what is going to happen every time you press a button.
I have used that trick on door hinges, and I agree it is good. My problem was every screw sheared flush in the hole. I called Newmar and said, "Do you have a replacement plate with an entirely new additional row of attachment holes that I can buy? They said NO. You can only drill so many new holes!
@@OurJourneyInMyles can you easy out them and reuse the same holes. At least its plywood , so if you damage the holes you can epoxy them back closed and redrill. Very bad design using pk screws to hold plate in.
I'm sure the assemblers in the shop were just installing the design they were given. I would have hoped the Engineering Department would have put larger fasteners in that would have had a combined shear load safety factor that was HIGHER than the load the motors could supply. That way, the motors could stall out, and nothing breaks!
Hector,....this IS going to be interesting to see how it goes. With Winnebagos money, it is truly up to them,.........make the company even more awesome company with capital and service improvements or,........
You've earned a subscription purely on the fact that I've learned a new napping location... babe, I've got too go work on the slide out...😊
Thanks Scott! I have to say that I recently had to re-watch my own video because I had to re-time my FWS again. Yikes. I did skip the nap this time,.....I was in a hurry.
@OurJourneyInMyles ill definitely come back to this if I get into this situation but right now, got to get it working first. I do enjoy the energy you and your wife put into your videos! My wife and I definitely enjoy both of you and as first time rv'ers, thank you for the tips you've shared!
👍
Thanks, Twisted!
Bolt through floor
The design of the slide is such that the floor above is inaccessible without taking a lot of the RV apart. It's been so far so good,........
How has the multi screw repair you did holding up? By the way, you can do a thru bolt for a few of the screws by accessing under the bed with 2.5 inch screws.
Multi-screw repair did the trick! The plate I had to re-screw in was my kitchen slide. The other side of the slide floor is not accessible because the slide mechanism wood cover "sled" has my permanent desk mounted to it. MAJOR surgery would have had to happen! Its ben almost 5 years, knock on wood!
@@OurJourneyInMyles Thank you so much for the reply; I just finished multi screwing my bedroom plate back in based on your video. Thanks again for the assistance
@@TonyRoche-wh1dn Some of my issue was "standing on the button" too long. It the stop limits aren't set right, standing on the button too long will make it try to continue to DRIVE the mechanism past a point that when "maybe" it shouldn't. I always WATCH the slide like a hawk during operation. I make CERTAIN I am pressing the right direction. If I need the slide IN,......I starting saying, IN, IN, IN many times incase I am actually ready to press the OUT button by mistake! I hace become my own slide limit control now as needed!
@@OurJourneyInMyles by the way, did you ever figure out why the slide was not flush on the one side at the bottom at the end of your video?
Very useful!!
Glad to have you along.
Love your videos. You explain things well & I love your sense of humor ! IF you have trouble with your slides again there are 2 ways to improve that repair. Anytime you have holes that need to be filled you can inject urethane glue into the holes & insert toothpics to fill that hole permanently. Let it dry overnight, trim off the excess & reinstall your screws. 2, IF you can access the inboard side (floor) bolting straight thru the floor & cog track & installing thru bolts with blue Loctite, will give you a repair that will not fail. A mechanic & home renovator by trade, we're looking for our 1st coach & your videos have been scary, reassuring & definitely informing ! Keep it up !!
Thanks for the great tip!
My brother in law gave me this tip he has a construction company, I don't know if this will help with what your doing, but its worth a try. This worked on a door hinge that fell off, take wooden toothpicks and dip in woodglue then tap into hole and then put a new screw in!! Worked like a charm😊 and its still holding 2 years later! Safe travels to you and Sue😊🤗❤
This is a great classic tip that we all should know and works great. My issue was the screw body was still in place. (Still in the hole.)
@@OurJourneyInMyles it was a great tip that i as a women i guess i didn't find out till a couple years ago! 😂😂
Yes I have 2013 Newmar King Air
Check your plates JL!
@@OurJourneyInMyles why ?
@@mrjlbarrett5556 Just to make sure your bedroom slide cog plate screws are snug. Mine "may" have been loosened up for a while before my failure, although I kind of doubt it,......
@@OurJourneyInMyles I haven't any slid related issues
I spent 60$ buying 4 common size vise grips by Irwin. I got tired of buying the knock off Chine brands and having them bent or not adjust when I need them to. I hope I don't need them because that was 6 months ago and I have no idea where they are now.
It is amazing how easy it is to lose things inside an RV!
@@OurJourneyInMyles Yes sir.
I have that 2013 Newmar King Air. Sometimes it's always something
Glad I'm not alone.
@@OurJourneyInMyles You are not alone . No matter how much they say it's perfect. I here to say BS.
Sorry that happened. One of our fears with ours too,but Mark made it look not so scary. Thanks for sharing.
I think RV owners with slides will have trouble with them eventually. We all need to know that, expect it, and budget for it. We should all keep track of who's slides are the worst, and should all stop buying that brands RVs,......period. That would wake up at least one company. Enough is enough.
You are just so darn handy Mark. Sorry you had these problems but glad you had the tools, parts and knowhow to get it fixed. Look forward to meeting up with you and Sue in Florida this winter. Have an awesome week and safe travels! Michael & Tiffany 👍😎🚍🌴
I'm thinking the first time we will meet will be in at the Tampa RV Show! We will be in the North Fort Myers area were it is noticeably warmer than Orlando! Find a TT near there if you can. It's a great area.
Well documented Mark. It goes to say "that patience will get you through no matter what the situation"
Slide issues for someone on a limited time vacation trip must be an absolute nightmare. At least being retired, I can take all this in stride. I am planning a visit in November 2019 to National Indoor RV Center to get the bedroom slide dialed back in.
When looking at your channel, the rv living cost video really made the channel take off. That was the video that brought me to your channel right after it came out. Sorry you are having so many issues with the slides
Its way more trouble than I expected for such an expensive and highly rated rig. It is what it is,.....and I felt compelled to share this issue so others aren't as surprised as I was.
Oh Boy, I feel your pain... I just had to change out our gear pac on our big slide for the 2 time and it still seems to have some issues. We love these slides but they sure do need lots of love and pampering on occasion. I was very impressed with "Can Do" attitude as well as your supply of parts and tools that you carry and hope you dont have to use them too often but it sure is nice to have when you do need them.
Hey Bob, we also have replaced one of the gearboxes as well,.......the one that is under our bed. My "CAN DO" attitude actually was faked. For the first hour after discovering this failure, I cried like a newborn, in the fetal position. Sue was patient, but then started to get our cameras and microphones out. When I asked what she was doing, she told me I have 15 minutes to get my act together. I had a quick jar of mashed bananas, washed up, put on my makeup and yelled to Sue,.........ACTION!
That’s Winnebago quality. Newmar stopped producing quality long ago unfortunately.
Time will tell with all of the changes in all industries. I lay awake at night, hoping & dreaming of the day that Honda starts to make motorhomes,.....
@@OurJourneyInMyles that would be one massively expensive motor home
Awesome job on the fix. My wife (a mechanical engineeer herself) was really enjoying you solutions and your supply of spare parts. And she said to get rid of those chinese screws.
But you have to admit my chinese vise grips came in handy! Inferior nuts, bolts, washers, etc. in the supply chain of manufacturing has become a huge issue. Every company I have worked for has battled it!
Great job guys!!! We have been watching you for awhile. Always looking to keep informed and up to date. Knowledge truly is key. Thanks for the info! Safe travels!
Thanks a lot Steve.
I could see the Engineer side of you shining through Mark. Good looking selection of tools on hand also. Always look forward to your videos each week,You and Sue seem to be really laid back,my kind of people. Safe travels.
The real engineer that came out was the guy that sat in a chair for 40 years, and hardly moved all day. Now,....I am an inflexible, stiff torso with a head & legs! Thank God for my fit wife Sue,....
Fine job on the patient Doc Mark. Its a fine coach sniffles and bugs aside-they all need occasional TLC. As to expenses being high compared to others blah blah- you are doing it your way-no right or wrong there. Great vid-our Dutch baby set for delivery Dec 9 + or -. Have a great day. BNG
Bob,......what a great Christmas present you and Gail are going to have this year! Glad to see the house sold. Let the new chapter unfold.
LOL, that's the plan and a trip to PetSmart for toys and treats for the fur babies ;) BNG
Wow! Guess this gal does not want to have to worry about this as a single person. Guess I have to rethink my plans! I would not be able to do this down on my knees and reaching way back to work on this. Good heavens those screws are crazy for what they are to be doing!
Exactly Ruth! Those screws should have been BOLTS!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Personally, I do not like to make these real life adventure videos! Prefer to stick to showing Sue & I going to look at Yellowstone!
Always a cold beer helps steady the nerves
This day cold water was all I could handle.
Thanks for the video
Your welcome Bill. Hope I never have to post another slide repair video,....but I am a realist. Have a couple other "failure" videos in the works.
Looks like there was creative engineering
I just did what Newmar should of supplied,.....BIGGER and MORE screws!
Great video...just another thing to check at the factory pick up:)
Funny you should say that. I guy showed up in our current CG with a three week old 2020 Dutch Star. His Full Wall Slide and Kitchen slide are hydraulic,.....and are very different than the slide in this video. But their bedroom slide still had the same cog plates as mine. ONE OF HIS PLATES WAS LOOSE! OOPS,....
Nice video guys , thanks for sharing.
Always willing to share the good, bad and the ugly!
👍👍
Hoping it holds up!
Well. You added another reason to why I don't want a bump out.
Betting that flooring is OSB. That stuff disintegrates if someone spits on the sidewalk across the road from you, and it's way over used in construction.
I hear you. Full time living without a bump out would be a show stopper for us personally. Maybe I will get a used Prevost next time! Much better slide mechanism.
Great job... even with the limited tools/hardware you had to work with. I pray this type of thing never happens to me. I have an Entegra, but like your Newmar...they cheap out when they can to save costs.
Just knowing you are not alone with this issue will take some of the sting out, if and when it happens. Remember,.......our slides go in and out about 40 times per year. Your mileage may vary.
Have to admire your can do spirit. Probably 9 out of 10 guys would have just reached for their cell phones to call for help. I can tell by the tools and spare parts that you are used to being independent. I hope you can follow-up and swap out the temporary screws with ones up to the task. From the looks of the sheet metal it appears to ride over a toothed gear to push and pull the slide in and out so it needs to stand up to some stress. Great emergency repair.👍
Trust me Gene, I wanted to be one of those guys,.....but I was forced to put on my big boy pants and "man up". Sue gave me back my man card after this, and it has been safely in my wallet ever since. Hope to hold on to it for a while.
Hey now love my shaving it metal i work on lol be safe you guys
Hey James,.....
@@OurJourneyInMyles be safe my friend have nice weekend
cool
Actually,....if was 90 degrees when I was doing this!
After watching this, it has confirmed my belief that I don't want slides.
Slides definitely are the nemesis of all RV owners,.......but they make the living space for full timers so much easier to "live in". In my next life, I will consider a used Prevost with much better designed slide outs, and see if that works better for me!
I was considering for my first RV a Newmar Dutch Star 2020 4362. Did you get that thing resolved? Optional RV’s for me also are the Prevost country coach or possibly a Super C ShowHauler, heard good things about the slides on the show haulers.
fiber glass filler will also help
I will keep that trick in mind Allan.
Just like owning a home ... errrr.. a motor home. It’s always something.
It actually wouldn't be so bad if you coud call somewhere and things fixed "Quick",.....like at an auto dealership. Taking a motorhome in for repairs is like booking a tuneup for the space shuttle. It a big, expensive deal....
Such is the life of an Rver! I wish I was one. My hubby is not interested. I've wanted an Rv for 20 years, but it isn't going to happen. Good luck, I think you did a yeoman's job!
You both have to be REALLY,.... REALLY on board together to make this "tiny home" living thing work. You guys are smart to pursue other things together, and not force this lifestyle on your mate!
Thanks for sharing your pain with us. I can only hope my brand new Palazzo coach does not have slide issues. At my age, I am just not in the mood for this type of fun!
You hit the nail on the head! When I was younger, this would all just be a challenge. Now, every breakdown is a trama! Good luck with your NEW rig!
BTW...an Amazon list of things you use and really like while you are full timing in the RV would probably be a nice benefit for those of planning to do the same:)
I have that on my to do list!
@@OurJourneyInMyles You have a "to do" list...lol
So the slide wasn't straight flush maybe a royal flush?? Bravo! Another repair for the books. It always feels good after the job is finished. Something about working with my hands is rewarding. Although I would have just emptied the tray pulled it out, place a stool or something under it and laid on it. My neck could not have held up to the strain.
My wife is such a saint, that she could tell I was struggling all the time during the repair. She gave me a fantastic back message after we settled into our next campground. I'm looking forward now for the third slide to break!
@@OurJourneyInMyles I get right on that. So the other question since u are from wisconsin why is there so little red in your tool box?
Good job! I wonder if there are more troubles with the kitchen slides than any of the others? The rails don't look strong enough to carry the extra load of the kitchen cabinets and appliances! Is anyone keeping stats on these types of problems?
This slide had been our star performer. Now, all three slides have been worked on. The slides have been by far the most expensive thing to keep running.
Just got caught up on your entire library of videos! Really enjoyed them and giggled quite a bit. Not this one though ;) Slide issues are no fun. Can't wait to see what you two are up too next!
Thanks for watching Hylin. We need more people like you on our trip!
minor maintenance helps prevent major repair
You can say that again. I have been as proactive as I can on our rig. This increases cost in the short run, but will pay off in the long haul.
Mister Chantler, you have let me seen that what me wuryt along these films nice from out side dom cheap inside i get a hart atack. Not galvanische treatment, no bolt trough and trough , these slides shout and CAN work nicefully for 40 years. Weten you or i designs them and it shoud not cost even a penny more . So madam newmar i wil first look to and by your compatators builders if they do this simpel job better because i have a back ack to like mister Chantler CONCLUSIES better i not so nice desing bumper than a Essential solide montage
I agree Anthony. This design was not in line with the rest of the quality of the rig. The weak link will always break. These slides are so difficult to get repaired correctly once you are on the road, they should be designed three times more robust then they are. I have an appointment in August 2020 to get the full wall slide repaired at the factory in Nappanee Indiana,assuming it will be open during this Covid-19 crisis. I am banking on the factory knowing how to do it.
Thanks for the upload. Do you think that epoxy coating the slide plate or using loctite in the new screws would help?
When I look at what else is out there,.......you have two other choices. The ultra/ultra expensive bombproof Foretravel/Prevost/Newell machine tool design style slide mechanisms that is so awesome, it makes my heart flutter, but I can't afford these coaches. The other is the Schwintech gear and rack design that I personally do not think is anywhere near as good and robust as the Newmar setup. I will stick with Newmar,.....wish it was more robust,...,....but it is what it is,......
PS: Full wall slide is going in for MAJOR REWORK in August at the Newmar factory.
Good Morning Mark & Sue ☕️! Glad to see Myles all stitched up and ready for the next adventure! You might want to add a footlocker full of gold bars to your pro tips list! 😂 Any idea what Newmar recommends for routine maintenance intervals on slides or is this cost-cutting engineering at its best? BTW, nice reference to KYD summer to remember! Safe travels!
The irv2.com website, when searched, has all sorts of things you need to check, monitor and retorque periodically. These tasks vary from brand to brand. As a licensed mechanical engineer for over 40 years, this design is just plain not good enough for a rig this big and expensive. Shame on Newmar.
@@OurJourneyInMyles I totally agree! We have a name for it...Mickey Mouse Engineering...funny NOT funny!
You need to step up to square drive screw heads. Fill the holes with screws. Looks pretty sad design from the factory. Time to upgrade motorhomes!
You are right! I only buy spline or square drive now,.....of course I have a few lifetimes of screws to get rid of before I am completely purged!
Nice DIY Mark! I was just thinking about protection for power surges. Do you run with an external surge protector?
We actually use two. We have a Progressive Industries EMS-PT50X 50A RV Surge Protector and a Hughes Autoformer RV220-50-SP Voltage Booster/Surge Protector. The autoformer is installed first in line, and THEN the Progress Industries EMS.
What else do you have to do all day, right?
Well,.....it did provide some great CZcams video! It just beats your confidence down continually on your rig. You don't want to wonder what is going to happen every time you press a button.
If they pull out again,take some wooden toothpicks to fill the holes before you put the screws back in. Trust me it works great.😉
I have used that trick on door hinges, and I agree it is good. My problem was every screw sheared flush in the hole. I called Newmar and said, "Do you have a replacement plate with an entirely new additional row of attachment holes that I can buy? They said NO. You can only drill so many new holes!
@@OurJourneyInMyles can you easy out them and reuse the same holes. At least its plywood , so if you damage the holes you can epoxy them back closed and redrill. Very bad design using pk screws to hold plate in.
Think I’d just sell it and buy another!0
If I only could,.....Prevost here I come!
I have and opportunity to buy a 2017 Entegra Conerstone with 820 miles on it
4 slides
Cummins 600 HP
3 15000 ACs
Onan 12,500 Kw
$399k firm
I would bet that the 2013 King Aire you have drivers better! The 2020 Cornerstone has a comfort drive like system now,....finally.
It's not quality
It's Amish quality.
I'm sure the assemblers in the shop were just installing the design they were given. I would have hoped the Engineering Department would have put larger fasteners in that would have had a combined shear load safety factor that was HIGHER than the load the motors could supply. That way, the motors could stall out, and nothing breaks!
Don't worry about all of these problems... now that Winnebago owns them.... everything will get better now.. :-)
Hector,....this IS going to be interesting to see how it goes. With Winnebagos money, it is truly up to them,.........make the company even more awesome company with capital and service improvements or,........
@@OurJourneyInMyles Hope you're right.. thinking on buying Newmar Dutch Star... but man, they are getting expensive.