BEWARE! RV'S FOR 50 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR! KEVIN FRAZER HAS WORDS OF CAUTION!
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Many people are hoping for a severely DISCOUNTED (unrealistic price) on a new RV. Kevin Frazer (Cheyenne Camping Center) has some words for you!
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All I can say here is I am thrilled I bought my fifth wheel from Cheyenne Camping Center. Mr. Frazier is a very professional man with an outstanding staff.
Forest River screwed me royally by refusing to repair a serious manufacturing defect....confirmed by a dealer (wall separation. They could care less
Warren Buffett taught them well
All manufacturers screw their customers....they only care about selling the garbage they make and the bottom line. On another note, consumers are partially to blame because they keep buying the trash the manufacturers make. Dealers don't care either b/c the manufacturers won't pay them for the warranty work (when they approve it). It's a vicious cycle.
Wonder if they ever saw a 357 up close?
That's why I won't even look at one of those sideways
EVER!
Many of the brands are owned by the same outfit
Right now - I would need a discount off that 0.50 cents before I would even consider buying one of these modern RVs made of fiberboard, plastic and literal foam. No Way.
I will buy a race trailer, with no wood, or plastic. only aluminum. 8.5 width. 8ft interior height. 36ft in length. with living quarters. no slide outs. you can have yours built.
If only every RV dealer operated like Kevin's business, the Rv buying experience would not be so despised!!
I wonder how much kickback they get for saying Cheyenne Camping is the place to buy. They sell the same cheap junk everyone else does.
You know it
We winter in an RV/park home resort in Casa Grand AZ. We have space on the property where they allow Freedom RV to park about a half dozen RV's for sale. Yesterday, we got a flyer about a 45% off sale. I just watched 3 diesel pushers and 3 5th wheels from Freedom RV enter the gates on their way to the parking area. They are desperate to sell RV's. I've not seen one new RV in the resort. But I do see plenty of privately owned RV's with for sale signs on them. 2024 will not be a good year for the industry.
They’ve ripped so many off and gotten greedy and bloated they NEED TO FAIL.
50 cents on the dollar is still way to high for the junk they sell!
The man is correct, about everything he said. This economy is going to tank, far worse than people think
I really appreciate these videos because I'm now convinced that I don't want to be an owner of an RV, especially a new one.
Used are a terrible purchase as well!
Unless it's stored out if the sun the caulked seams suffer from UV exposure and degradation. Water intrusion follows.
The only towable RV I'd even contemplate is a fiberglass ""Egg shelled" style.
Good for you Alan ....you know, it's very important to know that whenever you purchase a car, RV or real estate that you have a clear title. Great public service information.
We went to a little RV show this weekend. Why can they sell me a new RV right there for $10k less, at the show, but not on site. I understand if they brought those RV's 100's of miles, but at this particular show there were 3 Chains, two within 50 miles of the show. I want to spend more than 5 minutes in it before I even think of bringing out a pen.
It costs dealers EXTRA $ to take units to a show. Those 3 chains would have split the cost of the venue and that adds to the RV price. If they told you that the RV is cheaper "at the show", they are just pressuring people to buy there! ( they are lying!) It would cost THEM less to sell the RV AT THEIR LOT! So wait 2 weeks, if there was a RV that you liked, you could go to the dealer and buy for LESS THAN AT THE SHOW!! (don't even mention that you were at the show) I was in RV sales for 18 yrs.
Thanks for the tips.@@jjones5424
I love it whenever you have Kevin on! I fear for his life, but I love everything he has to say 👍👍👍
Kevin has great knowledge. He could could have his own CZcams channel… RV University sponsored by his company, it would be a HUGE success.
They'll be 50 cents on the dollar, and still not worth a dime.
Junk is still junk at any price. I have a 20 year old RV that I would like to replace, BUT NO WAY! The few mfg’s I almost trusted are just better junk, at best.
I’m grateful for all the important information you give! Never knew about trust, and lot rot! Wow 😯 Thank you 🙏
Buy from a private owner, stay away from dealers, period.
Bought one small RV just before Covid hit. Son was graduating high school and the plan was to tour USA before he started college.
Worst decision I ever made. What garbage! Finally sold it, only used it once.
If I ever get the urge again I will build a little teardrop myself.
I like this gentleman. An honest man!
You know all RVs are junk, yet people continue to throw their money away on them!?
At this point, people are better off to just build one themselves.
Very informative and scary video. Cheyenne Camping sounds like it is run by an honest owner. Hey Wingman, what do you know about Bish's RV? They are all over CZcams and are now starting to offer remote "repair" work. They seem like they are interested in making life long customers. What say you?
😂😂😂😂😂 RV DEALER SAYS "TRUST ME"..... "I'M DIFFERENT." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I bought a used trailer in NY from the owner and got his NYS DMV title signed over to me and a bank loan payoff letter to retitle it in my name. No problem. A clear title is a must in NY.
Thanks a million for keeping us up to date on the latest, even if it's not always the greatest, developments in the RV ecosystems! Also, thanks Kevin for sharing your time and knowledge with channel members and viewers.
The one thing I don't understand in the RV industry, is dealers not willing to work on an RV that they didn't sell. An RV is bought to travel with. Chances are, you quite possibly could be hundreds of miles away from your local dealer when you have a problem. Manufacturers should supply dealers with technicians just for this situation, or have mobile technicians stationed around the country. Or, better yet, when these RV dealers and their employees buy a car at a car dealer, make them have to get repairs done at the dealership they bought it from. That might get the industry thinking!!!
The manufacturers won't pay for warranty.
I got one that functions anywhere in the USA.
The best RV to own is 2019 or older, anything 2020 or newer is all junk
8:35 “we don’t allow swap parts that are of a critical nature, safety”. If it’s a brand new RV, why are ANY parts being swapped?!? Shouldn’t a new RV direct from the manufacturer be left alone?!? It sounds he just admitted to swapping parts that are not critical and that’s acceptable … huh??
The auto industry does the same thing, including the use of rebuilt parts. Read your car's warranty
It’s criminal I don’t care if auto people do it that’s criminal ALSO.
RV's are a luxury item. When people can't afford to buy food, they also can't afford to buy RV's. The used market is going to be flooded, when people who can no longer afford their RV's are forced to sell, and that will impact new sales, too.
Just like a house, you need to have a title company check the title search. Always be careful with big checks.
This is why I would never buy a new RV. One year old from an owner is the way to go!!!
We had a strict policy when I had my boat business if it was a emergency to take a part off a boat it was ordered and overnight shipped and replaced next day. I can only imagine the problems if you don’t
A person could die….especially in the water. Kudos for being responsible!
What a fantastic video!! Tremendous knowledge, clearly delivered with passion and a host that didn't interrupt or talk over his guest! Everyone who is buying or thinking about buying any RV should hear this! Thank you both for sharing it.
I know I'm might be a naw sayer,but when you buy a r.v. and soon as you leave the lot you lose 30 to 40% percent so 50 %on the dollar sounds fair
Great episode! Thank you, gentlemen! ❤
Thank you for once again reminding that I will never ever buy a pre-built R/V. I have made the decision to buy a new from the factory Sprinter van and have it custom built!! I have come to terms that I’m giving up a huge amount of space, but how long (other than driving) do you really spend just sitting inside.
Great info, cheers from Vancouver 🇨🇦
Holy cow Alan it's so weird that Kevin brought up McMahon's I bought my motorhome from them and I wasn't as smart in 2012 as I am now thanks to you and your channel but I still have the motorhome and he is in prison and now I know that he was a shady dealer because the MSRP stickers were removed from the RV. I hope I don't have my title yet and I sure hope I don't have the problems like Kevin said. Thanks for being so dillagent and helpful.
I tried the phone number listed for the wingman, no responce, Tried this lemon lawyer and was told they don't do anything on RV's older than 2023, I have a brand new 2022. Neither Kevin Fazer or the Wingman are any help at all. When is anybody going to do something for all the people getting ripped off?
I am afraid this video is just more propaganda. Forrest River and Palomino have horrible reputations in the RV community. Kevin sounds sincere and I want to believe him but the brands he sells are not a good reputation builder.
When a part is missing, the dealer probably took it to repair another trailer, because they either didn't want to wait for the part to come in, or there were supply chain issues that prevented them from getting the part.
This was great . Like to hear his information.
Thank you for your videos! I learn a lot. I have the list you sent out before of who to trust. Do you have an updated list, or is it still the same places? Today's two things you discussed are news and a "Must Know." Again, thank you, and keep those videos coming!
Would you please share that list!!
Is there anyone out there that has an annual running list of dealers that are real statistics on multiple categories such as rated customer service, sales ratings, repeat business, overall customer service etc etc? And I’m sure your wingman’s dealership will be close to the top.
No thanks! We’ll stick with our tried and true, solid 1996 Class C Minnie. Still running like a champ, all original appliances, not garage kept. Camp nearly every weekend in summer and usually 1-2 extended trips per year.
Thank you Wingman for sharing this very informative and important information!! ❤
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
Camping service writers do not get commission sales on warranty work, so good service advisors are quitting in droves. They can't advocate for customers if they are not being paid enough to fight for a customer
It's called a Police Book when talking about inspecting the dealerships floor plan.
So this is a commercial for this dealer…. “I would NEVER do what those other people do..”. We moved on from get off my lawn man to pumping his friend’s dealership. Just so we know…
Appreciate the info. When I get an RV. ITS GOING TO BE MY HOME FOR A FEW YESRS. THANKS AGAIN
This happend to my grandfather and he was a bank pres. I was a harley dealer and the MSO(factory title) always showed up before the bike
Hi Wingman. Your friend Kevin said he wouldn't saddle a person with a motorhome. What did he mean by that?
IMO an RV is a 100% disposable asset that has no upside in ownership, never expect to recoup any money you lay out on a purchase.
Wow RV business is so full of criminals! With the problems we are seeing now I’ll NEVER BUY ANOTHER RV. Thank God horse trailers are sturdy, they still have the same crappy appliances but at least you can upgrade those.
Junk is junk at any price.
Anyone heard of the RV indicator. It is very good at predicting economic strife.
I wish Kevin sold camper vans. I’m hot 5o buy one but not until I can find a dealer with Kevin’s business ethics
Now explain floor plan to everyone not in retail
Hi Alan I've have watched several of ur dealers walk through videos. They never give a price and because of that ,I can't trust them. I would have to be brain dead to move forward like that. They need to at least give a jumping off price.
Also don't be greedy, that's how crooks prey on you.
Until they're legally forced to stand behind their products, I'll never buy one. As far as I'm concerned they're overvalued by 90%. I've worked on them before and they are garbage. Shiny garbage.
Liz amazing is the best RV you tuber I've ever seen
Got my 50 year old boler back in October. The camper I could not buy 50 years ago. Thank you, but no motorized RV for me.
Funny you should mention Camping World though. Will not answer the phone. Or if they do, hold button you forever. And when I outwait them 30 minutes and finally get a "parts" person that tells me to check it Online. Im sorry, sir, the listing you have does not list the dimensions.
Well, I aint got time to go measure it. Click.
Yeah, their service is killing me as a customer and at the same time what little business they have left.
We that are in luv with our "eggs" tell each other. It might be online, or to a CZcams post, but it is like a bunch of old codgers talking over the back fence. We share our inventions, our finds, and our pride in ownership. Don't mess with the "eggs" . . . you might get cracked.
Everytime I find a nugget for mine, I share the location of it with the nest. And darned it's hard to find 50 year old parts.
Sir, I hope the wise RV shopper finds their way to you. And shares you with their friends
50 cents on the dollar. That’s 50 cents too much.
I'm thinking about buying a van & have it converted, at least I know I have a pink slip.
Thought Kevin said 1 or 2 years prices are going to keep going up???
RV and CAR DEALERS....A true pair of SCAMMERS
People will be screwed, what's new!
RV warranties are all complete dog s***
At least I know how to fix stuff
I don't think anyone should own a RV if they don't know how to fix it
I finally bought a brand new one and took it in La Mesa RV
Extra little steps and leave it there for a couple months to get it fixed
I don't think so I want to use my RV
Anyways
Do your research don't ever rely on any kind of warranty unless the engine blows up
Buy used with Bugs worked out 😢
I have a huge concern about the title on my travel trailer. The title is an electronic title. The paperwork on the payoff letter does not match the type of travel trailer that I have. I intend to sell or trade but I haven't figured out what steps to take about the title. I haven't been able to find it online.
Will you be doing a youtube on the rv repo's, how and where they are stacking up? Will we be expecting auctions to the public for these rv's that no dealer will touch or want to fix and sell? Just a wondering mine.
Could you tell seller or dealer that you are going to do a 10% holdback until you receive clear title from state?
No lemon laws on RVs should be reason enough to not buy a new RV. Buy used if at all.
How do you protect yourself from potential title problems? I will be financing it. Will I get a certificate of origin at the time of purchase? Will the banks name be on it?
Damn! More dangerous than I thought! Worse than any warning anyone can make.
Dealers haven't ever been tesponsible for service...reads your contract your BOS... This is a dales pitch...with false and misleading information.
What RV dealer would you recommend in Colorado?
`Interesting , Thank You .
I have seen how RV are built, like CRAP! They are built with ,1.5" square slats of wood poorly stapled to create a poor partition. The siding is applied to hold the wood slots in place. Those FLIMSEY
walls and roof are boxed togather . The inner walls and cupboards are
what holds the bad walls and roof in place. This is why all RV that are
a few years all leak.by the time the buyer sees rot it is FAR worse behind what you see Andis almost too late to fix! RV are BUILT to be
planned obsolescence! Also note that RV parks don't allow RV into their parks say 7 to 9 years old and older. The roofs are DESIGNED to
fail as they have multiple caulked leak points that heat and cold causes the caulk to fail! Putting the metal on roof first then caulking
The edge THEN puttiing the corner trim over the roof metal and caulking it, then putting screws thru into the frame wood creates holes right inside the walls, IDIOTIC!!
RV cold be built far better with treated real wood partitions and roofs that have no holes and roof covers that go down over sides, front, back.ASK yourself why RV are not built similar to school busses, step vans etc?? Why, because they LAST!
???????? We are not bankers nor understand the language
Who is Kevin frazer? Brand new units for 40 cents on the dollar?.
BECAUSE THEY ARE 90% ALL JUNK,NO QUALITY AFTER ABOUT 2015 I'VE HAD 3 I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE JUNK,JUNK,JUNK
Just buy used that’s been taken care of everything rots but here’s what is happening. Illegals crossing border America loosing our jobs we can’t afford our so called homes so we are now buying used RV to live in buy good heater and keep check on rooftop leaks fix it
Went midding people really what people whete ...Thus aporars to be more if a sakes pitch buy from me you can trust me and my brothers...realky wekl Bubba maybe so...I can assure you...whom ever I buy from...the title a bill a sale and a bank will be involved in any any trssaction of mine... I dont get ripped off because I'm not a fool..Try to rip me off and you'll have no place yo hide or disappear to.
Wow, this is sickening he should be taken out of ofc.
new RVs are junk you will be sorry if you get one money pitt.
RVs r junk. Buy it then u fix the screw ups. They r a rip off.
Is this guy on drugs? damn...
Prices up 300% in three years so 50% off on a new old stock rv is still not a great deal.