100% Offgrid Digital Comms - Air Gapped Windows Demo [Unedited]
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I was using 1200 baud packet via an Icom IC-02AT and Kantronics KPC3 TNC to access BBS's in the mid 1990's when I first got licensed. No internet in my house until several years later. First internet was dial-up with a 28.8 Kbps modem. Sometimes I miss those days!
I miss those days, too. I am moving back to them. It's amazing how well connected or little group is now over radio in the Southwest. We're using JS8 on 40m, APRS (MAIL), regional repeater systems, and now Winlink daily.
Really liking this direction of your channel. Keep up the great work.
More coming... thanks.
You'll need the internet for the VARA purchase but only once. After you have the key, you can install on any computer easily afterwards. Also, you will love the PowerGate. Great piece of kit!
Thanks, Jason. I'll install VARA on a VM on another machine to grab the license. The next jump will be VARA with wine... which I know you've covered. I'll be adding PGP support natively into a customized version of Pat when I get there.
Unless something changed, doesn’t Jose email you the registration key?
11:22 The work you’re doing here is pertinent and may save lives. Keep it up! 🎉
Possibly. I believe the trick is start training on these skills now. They take time, energy, some financial capital, and a community of like minded individuals.
Would be great to see step-by-step how you installed Windows on FZ-M1. Following along is a great help for us non- computer guys. Thanks for the great content!
This video is coming. It's two videos out. I will walk through the compute kit in the next video. Thanks for the comment!
Digipeater to Digipeater is great, P2P even better.
P2P is amazing. No infrastructure. More on this later.
Great video! I’m playing with Winlink over fm and hf myself. I hate windows, but am holding my nose because Winlink express is a very robust program. Would love to see your method of debloating a windows machine and making it more user friendly and secure. Thanks again and keep up the great work!!!
Looking forward to this topic being expanded. Links in future videos, thanks.
The next two videos will cover gear followed by approach for installing an air gapped system.
Love your progress!
Thanks. I appreciate the view and support. More on the way!
Another great lesson. Thanks. Gene, N3XUS
My pleasure!
You are doing some gr8 work. Thanks.
It's my pleasure
Good luck with your Windows 10. Never let it touch the Internet again.
One of my buddies that certifies software for NASA's SLS rocket hates MS updates. He has his MS in Computer Science and BS in nuclear physics, so he is no slacker.
He failed a couple times turning off the automatic updates on his HP computer with Windows 10. Then one night he got out a bottle of Gray Goose and went to work looking for evil kernels, virtual links, etc. About 3hrs later he decided he had achieved victory.
Everything went well until about 3mo later when HP called him out of the blue and asked, "Mr. Luchuk, are you using your computer?" Steve told him them what he had done as it was his computer. They said that he couldn't do that. They agreed to disagree and ended the conversation.
About two weeks later when he was online he started getting updates again.
He has decided that it is a losing battle for a Windows computer that goes online.
This story sounds about right. With Windows 11, you don't own your computer anymore, Microsoft does. I'll stick with my air gapped approach to running Windows 10 for radio work. 73
Always Helpful
Ordered via your Link. THANK YOU - Again!!
I am making serious progress - Your guidance has been PARAMOUNT!!!!
(Vanity callsign applied for). Will update you after 19th this month.
Glad to hear it, Eric. Thanks for snagging a DigiRig Lite. These are amazing accessories. Yes, please keep me posted.
big fan of these real unedited videos!
Glad to hear it. Thanks for letting me know as I am low on man-hours these days, but my brain is full of content to share.
Looking forward to Emcomm Tools being released. Keep up the great work!
I'm looking forward to releasing it. The R3 release is in-flight and is a big release that is bringing 99% plug and play support. The DigiRig Lite had me go back to the design, so it's a bit delayed.
Great.
I’ve been looking to drop back out to dial-up days.
Excellent. My kind of guy. Stay tuned.
Yes, more Windows!!
Your presenting some very interesting stuff. Certainly relevant to today. The manpacks were great...this stuff takes us to a whole other level.
Glad to hear that you are finding value. More on the way with more specific details so that others can follow along.
I'm glad you finally decided to try VARA.
I've been amazingly lazy on digital modes this past year, but with some new local hams interested in digital its looking like its time to pick up VARA again.
I've dabbled with a VARA on and off and have always liked the power of that mode. I'm not a Windows fan, so I always put it on the back burner. With a few tweaks to Windows, I think I managed to get Windows working nicely for this application. Also, it was my recent work setting up a Winlink RMS Gateway for packet that lead to the small jump to VARA. Good luck back into it. The goal is to layer PGP encryption and use P2P with the business frequencies.
PGP used to be the rage 20yrs ago. Didn't it eventually fall out of favor because computing horsepower made it a moot exercise to encrypt using PGP against govt agencies, and govt agencies demand a backdoor.
I don't believe the govt got their backdoor, but the developer decided not to continue further development.
So, I guess PGP encryption is still pretty good, if you are not worried about government spying.
Or, if you are small enough potatoes below the govt radar you can expect hours to days of encrypted impunity, which is great for time sensitive messaging.
PGP has a rich tradition of being secure, trust-no-one option. I was using it in the mid 90's and early 2000's, but It is still relevant today. The implementations that I use are all open-source and have been audited by independent security researches, so I do not believe that there is a backdoor. For the average person and organization, it is more than sufficient. I think it less popular as security is always a trade-off when it comes to easy of use. More secure systems are more difficult to use in practice. However, I am working on a solution and some recommendations to get people going with PGP again. Stay tuned.
Once again great video!
Like others I’d like to see more of how you setup your tablet to be air gapped. I’ve thought about doing the same thing, but not being much of a computer guy, I’m not sure logically how to do it.
Also what bag are you using for your portable digital kit. I often carry a similar setup but the bag I’m using just isn’t working out for me
I plan to cover both of the questions in the next two videos.The vagus the Avenger GunPack: www.amazon.com/Elite-Survival-Systems-Avenger-GunPack/dp/B07VC9VR74?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pWMSHhnKH1owjIvRH7zSm_mw9_Vz-70lDN7j_fEsXqycyA-m3BmvJrKPFFQ9TiGMEfMwG5C1ZSK2sd_xC032dCTP9gII-WX4CteJwVs5iI0rqdhNJ1rgCxwEKzPearTh40jXHRrnfaBlOddFB_XE9UcJMmNdRplKC2QWif0e64dN0fGKBeRq6Dlz2u8zhEpUomfmPrM8co87nGOWrHzLM-BLP-QtlfAQnM7p1oU_bhCEzTwUPiCJpTJKdXwd20uIYTMbh-cywFpELj1b_aITsEfy6PtAXu6gsQcf20KtoM4.lFKOeqVixfoWYFsmga_vIr3oQiGE0LEZcehhfiJ1-Us&dib_tag=se&hvadid=542492815631&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9030010&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=14771716596146495096&hvtargid=kwd-302713450698&hydadcr=7691_9903761&keywords=elite%2Bsurvival%2Bbag&qid=1713278685&sr=8-5&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=thetechpreppe-20&linkId=7b448e74af855bd86476019e8a94ad18&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Watching for a second time. If you do progress the notes to a book on this information I definitely want one. I already use the older Toughbook and Toughpads [FZ-G1 and FZ-M1]...likely for the same reasons. Being able to load/reload all of this software seems critically important. Also being able to do so without ever connecting those devices to the net [keeping them clean] seems likewise important. I will be soliciting assistance from an old friend [much more knowledgeable than I on this] to go there. Including setting up similar mem sticks for all of the Mesh and ATAK software + plugins to load onto the little Android FZ-X1's...to supplement present android units. .
Heck yeah!
Fully airgapped is a cool concept. Never have to worry about hacks or nag screens.
Exactly right. Some very motivated and clever hacker would need to be in RF range, come up with an exploit for the radio software, and figuring out to craft a special data payload and send it over RF.
Great video (as always!). My main concern in a grid down situation is using HF, not VHF, and what to do when the GPS constellation is down as far as precise timing?
I've covered all this in my HF + JS8Call videos. I'm primarily focused on regional comms using low power HF
equipment with an NVIS deployment. For manual time sync I use the WWV broadcast or will sync my time using the heard signals in JS8.
I would love to see a video of you going over how to download and setup the Raven software from FOSA Tech (formerly terminal armament) using an SDR and the FZ-M1 in layman's terms. When I say layman's terms I mean assume I don't know how to run a windows update, like LAYMAN'S terms. RTO tech from Insta made a "beginner" guide and I was lost before I even got to the end of step one. That software is really solid for doing wide band scans over long periods of time with an SDR which would be a major plus when trying to do frequency planning or scanning around to see what kind of traffic is in your general area. I don't need to know how to set up olympus or whatever his subscription based software thing was, just how to get Raven up and running on windows. Vlad from FOSA said he was going to make a simple windows installer for it but that was just one of his many many broken promises by the look of things unfortunately. Thanks so much for the great content!
5:53 This work is amazing!
2:47 that’s sweet! 🎉
I would Really Appreciate all the Debloating Software and Quality of Life upgrades you've made for your FZ-M1, in the process of getting a MK2 since I think my MK1 is not doing so hot
I'll do this one or two videos out. I have several FZ-M1 Mk1 units (which I picked up for $110 each 18 months ago) and have never had an issue with Windows or Linux. It runs a bit slow, but all the amateur radio software runs fine. However, the Mk2, is the really a much better performer, but they are a bit more expensive on the secondary market.
@@TheTechPrepper that's what I figured, Mk1 lags to a Halt with JS8 Call and completely ruined field day for me haha
@@Q12_ Well that stinks. I have had mine in the shack running 12-hours per day since January 2022. There's actually a shot of it in this video.
I really appreciate your sound advice and experience. I ordered the DigiRig Lite from your link. Have you considered posting to Rumble also?
You're welcome. I have considered it. In fact, Rumble reached out earlier in the year to help with the migration. I will have to revisit soon. I've been on the fence as I'm concerned about the time required to handle user engagement on both CZcams and Rumble.
Try Ranger Bands 4:29
Will do. I have a couple, but these days I just raid my wife's drawer for these rubber bands.
My Win 10 computer that is used only for ham radio received an unwanted update today. It failed the smart check and would not boot until I played around in the BIOS. Pretty sure I got a rootkit installed. It is essential that your radio computer be air gapped! I'm going to reinstall Win 10, and NO Internet! I really only used internet for time syncing, very lazy of me. Now using GPS based time with a cheap USB antenna. Great work, and very interesting info!
Take a look at clocks.exe it does time sync using the WWV AM broadcast out of Fort Collins. Good luck with you're reinstall.
If I reinstall from the DVD, do I need any updates or service packs to make it functional and stable for radio use. I also do not trust the current disk drive especially after the last update which messed with the boot sector. Is there any way to make sure I have a clean disk to start with other than a new one?
@@AF6PA No need for any additional service packs. You should be fine. Just make sure that you have backups for any drivers that your computer(s) may need. I'll talk about this soon.
VARA FM works well on the DR mobile. The standard for digi comms for TX Districts 1 and 14. 14 is Harris County/Houston. 1 are the countries surrounding Harris. FM VARA lic is worth it. Especially now with the two flavors of DR.
Bro!!! I am a newb to linux and it's part of my mental workout plans. It beats me down however much of the time I get it done ( many times I don't) when it comes to Ham Radio.. However windows..... Windows has the stability and hardware capability that makes Ham radio Rock Solid ( especially once you get the drivers). Man I think I'm going to part ways with The relationship between Ham and Linux and Just use Linux for Linux.
Wait until I finished EmComm Tools OS Community (ETC). It is shaping up to be a turnkey appliance. Good luck with Windows.
Did you install win 10 from the Panasonic recovery disk? Or a retail win 10? If the latter, Which version? And is the internal cellular cards GPS working with your digital mode programs? Thanks in advance.
For this particular machine, the recovery disk as I did not want to deal with all the drivers. Yes, the LTE module provides decent GPS support.
ITs sad that everyone I know will not do anything with radio. But hopefully I will build up my own stockpile of kits so I can keep everyone I know in contact for when it goes down. (and something will happen soon, its bound to)
I hear this a lot. There are great communities out there. Take a look at AmRRON.
I really wish there was a vara protocol specification. There's a really abstract description of it from the creator but it's not enough to develop an modem with.
The license also indicates that any-level of reverse engineering is not permitted.
I prefer Linux and yes you can run vara FM etc on Linux. You have good ideas and I am from the days before internet and a large garden. Where I am we have water and that is very helpful.
Water is key and we clearly are at a disadvantage in the Sonora Desert. We're fortunate that everyone in our community is on private wells.
Why these automatic Windows updates seem to reset some sound settings, and program settings, is beyond me. But it happened to me, using my Echolink program. Some internal settings get out of whack, even when it was running right the last time I used it.
I've seen this, too. This is why I treat my dedicated compute devices for radio as an appliances. Once everything works, I never update the software.
@@TheTechPrepper I guess as long as its Never on the internet, then thats a safe way to operate it. But I always want to add another program, which seems to require another download, just to install it. And / or later upgrade a driver, because some stupid USB micro-chipped cable isn't working right.
And my favorite, is when the newer programs just won't run at all, because the rest of the system isn't up to date! 🙄
Where did you pick up that sturdy looking A5 6 ring leather binder?
Etsy. It's branded on the bottom right too with TTP. Search for leather A5 ring binder on Etsy.
Are you using RMS Relay? It'll cache messages at the RMS if the internet is wonky and won't give a no internet connection message when you connect remotely. You could also add HF to move mail without the internet. It's fun to mess with.
I have not set up RMS relay yet, but I plan on it. I will be setting up support for VARA FM and HF as well. Thanks for the tips. So far, running this simple RMS packet station has done wonders for local portable operation when hiking and running near the house. 73
So I am trying to get into all of this and studying for my general currently. I was hoping you could explain the difference between the Lite and Mobile Digirigs and why one would choose one over the other?
I talked about this in the first DigiRig video. It's the one with APRS in the title. If you don't need CAT control, I recommend the Lite.
Wonderful. Thank you
Hi Gaston, I missed the converter company you mentioned last night in chat (to run a laptop off of 12 volt battery without a converter). Can you point me the right direction?
Brett, my particular model # is SCD0902N05 from Lind Electronics. It's an AC/DC 90W combo. I picked mine up for somewhere in the $30 to 60 USD range last year on eBay. It's great as it overs 110VAC or 12VDC input with 15VDC which is perfect for the Panasonic Toughpad and Toughbook lines.
Can you explain more about air gapping and why it’s important for off grid /offline ecomms?
Yes, I will cover this in the next video.
Yes on windows content, i need help on ads-b software😢.. can you do winlink with hf? I dont have any vhf repeaters nearby?
I will likely not cover ADS-B on windows, however, I use an old RTL-SDR v2, an OTG adapter cable, my Android phone and and an app called. ADS-B Radar. You will also need the RTL-SDR Driver application from the play store. Yes, Winlink works great over HF. That's how I usually use it. I have good success with both the ARDOP and VARA HF modems.
Howdy!
Thanks for catching the last minute premiere.
Richard M Stallman is spinning in his grave knowing you connected to RMS with a Windows machine. Wait... he's still alive?
I typically use Pat under Linux. In fact, I will be rebuilding the RMS gateway to run under wine. I think he will be fine.
Can you do a video on how to setup and instal the software for both ends of the transmission.
Will do. I'll cover that this month.
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As someone looking for off the shelf digital/hf solutions that has no interest in learning a new OS, I'd like to see more Windows and/or Android based systems. The idiot's guide, hold my hand, watch this and make it work kinda stuff
I am interested in your field Manuel. Can you do a video on and how you keep it up?
Yes I can, but not sure when.
Hey, my brother, can you do a video of how to set up the small computer and a video on your field manual. I have kind of a similar thing that I started but don't know what to put in it. Can you help me.
A video on this topic was just released to the members on how to setup a computer for offigrid use. It will be be public tomorrow morning.
typically excellent! Still HATE windows but if it works, it works
At the moment, Windows is a temporary necessary evil until I get everything to work with wine under Linux. It's another tool. Either way, this system is setup for dual booting between Windows and Ubuntu.
@@TheTechPrepper Excellent news! Thank you Sir!
I would like to learn more about iOS based digirig lite and off grid use
That might take awhile as I'm not an iOS user. The trick may be finding the "right" USB-C to lightning adapter that passes audio. Normally, that's the research I would do and share. I'm sure one of the other CZcamsrs will tackle it.
The raw video is plenty good. I could do without the windows stuff though ;)
There will be just one or two more video on Windows, then it's back to Linux. I am setting up Windows for dual boot, so I figured I would capture the journey.
Late ⏰ night
Yep. Videos this late are rare. Glad you made it!
a technologist? LOL
Dude, I cut my teeth doing 80 hours per week as consultant in the early 2000's. What's so funny about that? Internet trolls...