The DUMBEST CONTROVERSY in Fiesta Bowl HISTORY | 1975 Fiesta Bowl
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- There have been many great moments in the history of the Fiesta Bowl. This is not one of them. Because prior to the 1975 Fiesta Bowl, Nebraska rejected the invitation to play in the game. And upon the Cornhuskers rejecting this invite, some people decided to take matters into their own hands in just about the dumbest way possible, that almost destroyed the bowl game's credibility. This is the story behind this disastrously dumb controversy and incident
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Yep, I'm old enough to remember when Nebraska used to go to bowl games.
Sigh.
Many, my sports fandom runs deep, but I've never ever considered myself a "fan of a bowl game". That's a new one.
Younger viewers of the channel: tele-WHAT?
Nebraska: "look, we are honored by the invite, but we don't want to even think about losing so we'll think about it, and reconsider if we lose to Oklahoma"
Fiesta Bowl officials: "understandable"
People from Arizona: "and I took that personally"
Fiesta Bowl officials: "Yes, yes you did. You IDIOTS."
A silly act, maybe, but there was no harm done
I love this video! I have fond memories of the Nebraska-Oklahoma rivalry. Osborne started out 4-11 vs Switzer.
No bigger loses then the 78, 84,85,87 games! All cost the huskers a chance to play for the natty! Factor in the 83,89, and 93 seasons? And Osbourne left atleast a half dozen nattys on the table!
1:31 man you could drive a truck through those huge line splits
This unofficial Official Jaguar 8/9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the start of the NFL career of Nebraska Quarterback Terry Luck, comparing the start to that of Kenny Pickett.
As an AZ native, and ASU fan, I had NO idea about this backstory and find it hilarious and completely ridiculous. The game itself is legend
As somebody who grew in the Phoenix area, was a fan of ASU, and eventually an alumnus, this is the least shocking story that could be told about the state in 1975. Phoenix was basically a 1950's small town that was starting to experience exponential growth, with political leadership that was wanting to pretend none of that growth was happening. In 1970, Phoenix had a population of less than a million, a little over a million if you included the whole metro area. The leadership, and a lot of the people were anti-tax, which led to bizarre things like a freeway system originally proposed in the 1950's as a local contribution to the Interstate system getting repeatedly voted down for 30 years.
This led to the craziness that you could not actually stay on I-10 from the West Coast to the East Coast. Why? Because I-10 stopped in the eastern outskirts of Maricopa County (a county that includes the entirety of the Phoenix area), and started again well west of the Phoenix suburbs/exurbs. Which meant that if you took I-10 through El Paso and Tucson, you got on a detour, then some 50-60 miles of two lane highways later, you got back on I-10 well west of Phoenix. And this wasn't a temporary problem. This lasted for 35 years.
The political establishment was mobbed up. About six months after the Fiesta Bowl, Don Bolles was murdered. He was investigating mob ties in the liquor and horse/dog racing industries locally. I used to joke that being a real-estate developer in Maricopa County should be considered probable cause for search and seizure. It's no surprise at all that Fife Symington and Charles Keating came out of here. And oh, my god, the stupidity of the rich and powerful in this community back then allowed me to have a healthy contempt for self-aggrandizing entrepreneur types (a la Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, et. al.) that lasts until this day. If you knew these people, you'd realize that this sort of stunt was par for the course back then.
I heard the “ london bridge “ was already buried near Havasu and they just dug it up?
@@CoreyT127 This is true. It was found buried next to the 1975 Nebraska Offense, where ASU buried it there.
Funny thing is this was the best of longtime Head Coach Frank Kush's ASU teams. They swept through the WAC without much of a contest, outside of Wyoming and the University of Arizona. They went into the Fiesta Bowl 11-0. The only other undefeated team was Oklahoma with the same record. ASU beat Nebraska 17-14 (rallying from a 14-3 deficit), finished undefeated, and #2 in the country at 12-0 behind Oklahoma.
As a longtime Raiders fan, the name Joe Washington always reminds me of the Redskins failed screen pass attempt in Super Bowl XVIII.
I always think of him as returning two kicks for TDs on a rainy muddy Monday night game while with the Colts. Forget who they were playing though, but the announcers were going nuts.
The Fiesta Bowl was relatively new at the time so the game was able to build it's reputation in the years after 1975.
Yep. The Fiesta Bowl was actually created by the community because ASU under legendary coach Frank Kush, kept easily winning the WAC, and a good half of the time wasn't getting a bowl invite from anywhere. It quickly outgrew those roots, but ASU was a frequent fixture in those early years.
@@stuartdollar9912This season was perfect example of that. 12-0 and finished #2 behind 1 loss Oklahoma!
Rumor has it that Bear Bryant himself suggested to the Sugar Bowl to pick Penn State as the opponent. Alabama had been in a bowl slump, and also was equally miffed that the Orange Bowl invited Michigan (keep in mind 1975 was the 1st year the Big Ten abolished the one bowl bid conference rule) over the Crimson Tide
@@matthewdaley746
Your claim is absolute bullshit regarding integration.
Absolute BS.
@@matthewdaley746
You have literally no idea what you’re talking about. He was wanting to integrate KY in the 1950s. It doesn’t work like you wish it did. Sorry.
@@matthewdaley746
You have an opinion - and that’s all it is - based on: 1) presentism (go look it up); 2) believing the bullshit of Tom Shanahan; 3) not having the first clue of what you’re even talking about.
So….according to YOU….Rupp being a racist (which he was) makes BRYANT guilty?
You’ve got to be kidding me.
“His efforts proved inadequate”? Uh, sure….3 national championships with an integrated roster was inadequate.
A person can be a Colin Kaepernick, and be reduced to rubble but get applauded because “what matters is you tried” - or he can be Bryant and actually DO it.
Should there have been black players at Bama sooner? Sure. Was it realistic? No.
And anyone alive at the time can point that out. I’m done.
At that time, a youthful Tom Osborne was quoted in the press-regarding the legendary Bear Bryant and his attempt to pick a Bowl opponent other than Nebraska: “You tell that son-of-a-buck not to duck us!” Very gutsy of Coach Osborne. And when Alabama came to Lincoln in 1977, that quote was brought out mercilessly in the Alabama media… didn’t help Bama-the Huskers gave Coach Osborne what may have been his first major “signature” win, when we beat the #3 ranked Crimson Tide 31-24.
Coach Osborne pulled out all the stops in the nationally televised game, and the Huskers were the only team to beat Bama that year. The next season, The Crimson Tide won the National Championship against Penn State with almost the same group.
@@matthewdaley746 ... Coach Bryant was a State employee of the State of Alabama. He did not make state laws upholding segregation. He had to abide by state laws. Those closest to Bear Bryant will tell you Bear Bryant did not like Govenor Wallace, But CBB knew where the funds for the University came from. Bear Bryant knew who controlled the purse strings. BB did not want to get into a political squabble with Wallace otherwise he would see a lot of money going to Auburn and Shug Jordan.
... I didn't know CBB and I doubt you ever met him either. I'm willing to cut the man a break because the political and racial climate in Alabama and one state over in Mississippi was turbulent to say the least. For Christ sakes Kennedy had to order in the National guard to escort 2 Black students to class on campus of the University of Alabama. Wallace stood in the doorway in an effort to block the students from enrolling.
... Keith Jackson said there was documented evidence Bear Bryant wanted to bring in a Black RB at Kentucky.
... Bear Bryant went to John McKay to initiate that Bama/USC series. John McKay did not first go to Alabama.
Bear Bryant knew Alabama and SEC had to change and branch out and play other conferences.
Bowl Controversies....I'm watching!
There’s a mistake in the article shown about the chicken incident. It is said that the Sooners declined the Fiesta Bowl bid until after the game against Oklahoma. LOL
1975 Fiesta Bowl was on CBS on Christmas Day with Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshire with the call
The day after Christmas.🏈
WTF kind of loophole allowed a convicted felon to hold the title of Justice of the Peace
I think he was a Justice Of The Peace first and then committed the felony.
I'm positive his non-peaceful ways are now what made the Fiesta Bowl famous when it could've turned to shit. Good job buddy letting the world know who you really are.
The NCAA banned Oklahoma from playing in a live televised game during the 1975 regular season.
Otherwise, the 1975 Nebraska/Oklahoma game would've been an ABC national telecast.
If I had been Tom Osborne, I would have sent the Phoenix JP a huge crate of fresh bull manure.
Osborne was hardly a saint, getting sent a bunch of frozen chickens was the least of what he had coming to him. He made Nick Saban look like Mother Teresa.
@@matthewdaley746 I'll save you lazy hacks some time: there aren't any. Osborne was fully prepared to dismiss Phillips until the judge told him to use football as incentive to complete his anger management, community service yada yada yada. Nebraska played at least 8 games without Phillips including two against top 10 teams Colorado and Kansas State, and beat them 44-21 and 49-25 in games that were never in doubt. Ahman Green, you know, the leading rusher in Green Bay Packer history, broke the freshman record with over 1,000 yards. As one of the USA Today writers said, Nebraska needed Lawrence Phillips to win the national championship as much as they needed you or me.
Fucking idiots.
I was honestly shocked there wasn't your usual "Oh, who am I kidding?!" line when you got the Fiesta Bowl's response to Nebraska's original reply was before the game.
Honestly? I wouldn't have been surprised if Nebraska had declined the offer after losing Oklahoma, all things considered.
What I got out of this is that even back then college kids were complete hypocrites all about taking a stand until it became mildly inconvenient for them to do so, and then suddenly becoming all about the very thing they claimed to be against. Some things never change.
Nah, that's just human nature.
Everybody is a hypocrite.
After all was said and done, Nebraska got crushed by OU then embarrassed by ASU.
I don't recall hearing of anything this nuts and I've heard of some twisted stuff in the sports world. Damn! I can't believe that some crazy fans nearly cost the then-burgeoning Fiesta Bowl a top-10 matchup. Too bad Nebraska ended up having to play what was pretty much a road game against Arizona State, which wasn't long for the WAC at that point.
As I said in a new comment, this isn't even a surprising story for the yokels that masqueraded as the powers that be in this town at the time.
Neblackska was always a lowbrow team under Tom "HIDE THE GUNS" Osborne.
Uh, what?
This was interesting. I have been a huge Nebraska fan since 1970. I was 12 when this happened, and I didn't hear about it.
What exactly am I supposed to do with all this truth Matthew Daley's dropping on the floor? 😉
I was a high school senior a big Arizona State University fan (which got me a lot of razzing in my provincial hometown thousands of miles from Arizona).
My classmates thought my lauding of the ASU Sun Devils team was the stupidest comment ever, but I showed them when ASU won the Fiesta Bowl and ended the season the only undefeated team in the nation.
That was a team with John Jefferson and a whole lot of other fine players.
As someone who- obviously by the name of my channel- lives in Arizona, it doesn't surprise me that local officials would spend taxpayers money for their own agenda while neglecting the needs of their voters. Frozen chickens?? And then, if you're going to shell out money for something this stupid, at least send enough for the entire football team. If you remember Nebraska's teams from the 70's-90's they were big behemoths, especially on the offensive line. 12 chickens ain't enough to piss them off.
WE EATED THEM.
It seems as if the first In Defense Of video on this channel could be about Osborne going for 2 against Miami, might that be accurate?
Who did the Big Eight play back in that day? The OU Nebraska game decided the conference champ every year. Colorado won it maybe once a decade.
Penn State offered a broader TV market, and the game (a 13-6 Tide win) was very well played and competitive.
The fact that Nebraska lost to ASU shows that they were not that great that year. They barely beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl the season before.
A little off topic but undefeated WAC Champ Arizona State should have won the National Title in 1975. (Oklahoma won with one loss.)
I agree. That’s pretty WACk….
Think that had something to do with the Sun Devils and Wildcats bolting to the then-Pac 8 right afterwards?
Look at strength of schedule. Also, Oklahoma beat this Nebraska team going full throttle 35-10, Arizona State beat a dejected Nebraska team 17-14. Not knocking ASU, but Oklahoma was the better team.
@@sooner9971 My beef is BYU won the national title years later and they basically did the same thing. Why did BYU get the title and ASU did not?
Admirable, sure... but what if the Fiesta Bowl decided to get someone else?
Go Big Red!
In the end Nebraska went and even though they lost their fans raved about what a great trip it was.
Messed up the closing audio
My apologies. Copied and pasted the wrong audio file. Gonna see if I can fix it in the video itself by just muting it, but not sure.
That was some terrible film quality you found from those games playing. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s and tv did not look this way. Lol. I am like wtf.
Well, YOU try to find better quality film of these games.
Your videos are amazing! Thanks so much!!!
Nebraska went to bowls after losing the final game to OU multiple times. Why would they not want to go in 75?
Former NY Jets (which I'm a local fan of), Kansas City Chiefs, and Arizona State Sun Devils head coach Herman Edwards will remind you that you play to win the game!
Hey...it's free chicken. Osborne should have broke out the deep fryer, had a fried chicken and corn on the cob dinner for the team's Seniors.
I was in the 8th grade during this time and I never heard a thing about this. Considering the ring leader (Justice of the Peace) had a felony background, this not that surprising but still hilarious. LOL
So basically: the Fiesta Bowl invited both OU and Nebraska, OU was in, Nebraska voted not to play in it cause they wanted to focus on OU (but still said they would consider playing) the Fiesta Bowl understood this, and the people of Arizona got all in their feelings and sent chickens to Nebraska. Yeah that will definitely help people come to your bowl game!
A couple of crazy people. Don’t say that it’s the people of Arizona. This was an isolated act.
Do a video on how the 93 Irish were screwed out of the national championship
The fiestable
#BlackshirtsBeingBlackedballAndBlackedOutBackThen!
1975 was not more than half a century ago. Last I checked a century is 50 years.
Last I checked it was 100.
Nebraska imo is way more in the wrong here. Gtfoh with that I don’t want to think about losing. You should have been happy you have a viable option for a bowl after you lose. I remember as a KSU fan that when kstate was in a similar situation in 98 and they lost the conference championship game they played in the Alamo bowl instead of a big time bowl game. Those Nebraska players were probably more spoiled then those chickens, but they still got to play the game. The bowl organizers should have had some backbone and went with someone else like Texas a&m, usc, or California. But instead they rewarded the jerks that blew them off until they got their ego shattered by losing. If I got approached by two attractive women to go on a date and I told the one I’m least interested in that I don’t want to think about doing that what do you think she should do? I’m mean I am super attractive but come on she should feel insulted and move on. But no these loser ended up with a prize anyway and free chicken but they still complain. Nebraska deserves another ten years of being a trash football team. Rant over
Lawrence Phillips is an absolute case of talent trumping justice, which of course is wrong but college football does this all the time. Phillips even had plenty of chances in the nfl despite proving to be an absolute horrible human being. You and I would be locked away forever if we did what he did but because he can score touchdowns he gets a pass. Absolutely disgusting and just shows the type of morals the Nebraska program has
I don’t believe in happy endings (except when I go to a massage parlor with Robert Kraft) I’m a kstate fan
That’s where we disagree Matthew. Robert Kraft loves hot women and she loves his money. A perfect marriage if I’ve ever seen one. And plus Tom Brady was there so you know it destined to win
Well Robert Kraft is doing the respectable thing by moving on from rub and tugs to marriage. For that he should be commended. And tbh why shouldn’t someone who is a widow not be allowed to marry someone else?
If Nebraska started the season ranked #7, and they’ve played 10 games, how have they risen in the rankings every week? 🤔
By winning every week
they were ranked -4th in the UPI poll
There was no controversy in 2003 Fiesta Bowl. Miami lost the game. They came up with excuses and the program never recovered.
ha that was not pass interference. miami still lost but refs still made a bad call there
Quit being a marshmallow, they should have sent a thousand chickens oh, I think you better read look up Sports history day did stuff like that in the past, and there's nothing wrong with it except the guys who destroyed our Fiesta Bowl and took it national we're worried about their big money.
You could have made this video 3 minutes long , by not repeating the same point over, and over!
The fact is the loser should have been invited to the Sugar bowl. Bear Bryant ducked both Oklahoma and Nebraska and picked Penn State. The Sugar Bowl gave him the pick. He wanted to back into a national championship. It was cowardly on the Bear’s part and everyone knew it. He also made sure the SEC didn’t play more than six conference games so he could avoid Georgia and Florida as much as possible and easily win the SEC playing their weaker teams. He was very shrewd and manipulating. Plus he remembered the thorough ass whooping Nebraska gave him in 1971 when he couldn’t duck them.
@ovalvox... It's well documented Coach Bryant wanted to play Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl. There are numerous articles featuring Coach Bryant and Orange Bowl Committee President Jim Armstrong going back and forth.
Bear Bryant pleaded, badgered and argued with Orange Bowl Committee to wait until after Alabama/Auburn game and if Bama won out take the higher ranked SEC Champion over the Lower ranked Big 10 loser.
... If Big 8 wanted Alabama so bad, why didn't they press the Orange Bowl Committee to invite (10-1) #4 Alabama instead (8-1-2) #5 Michigan? Big 8 Commissioner Charles Neinas never suggested SEC Champion over Big10 Loser.
Tom Osborne is on record saying he wanted to play Alabama in the Orange Bowl should Nebraska beat Oklahoma. Tom Osborne and the Nebraska players said it was the Orange Bowl or bust and let it be known they didn't want anything to do with the Fiesta Bowl.
Bama ducking Nebraska was a mythical narrative created by Cornhusker Nation after being blocked out of the Sugar Bowl. Nebraska and the Big 8 had a case of Red Ass when the Sugar Bowl snubbed Nebraska. The Big 8 was so sure they were going to have both Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl berths. They had to settle for a minor Bowl. The Fiesta Bowl had 1/6 the pay-out as the Sugar Bowl. It was a Minor Bowl and Nebraska lost.
... Alabama had no problem with Georgia and Florida in the 1960s,70s, and 80s. Both those teams were up and down through out those decades.
@@Bamruff62Oklahoma vs Alabama would have been the best match up but the Orange wasn’t taking a chance on a 9-2 Alabama. Alabama vs Nebraska would have been the next best match up. The Bear chose the easiest path to back into a NC. Penn State. A snooze fest. I’m not so sure Bama would have finished ahead of Michigan if they won. Michigan blew Missouri off of the field when they were ranked fifth. Missouri beat Alabama. He would have won the NC for sure if he beat Nebraska. The point is play the best team possible. Plus the SEC only played 6 conference games. No Florida or Georgia. At least Ohio State had Michigan. Nebraska had Oklahoma. Texas a Texas A&M. It’s all a moot point. Back then the bowl games were everything. Make the best possible match ups. The Sugar wasn’t the best possible match up.
@@ovalvox7888 .... 9-2?
Alabama finished the 1975 regular season with a 10-1 record and #4 in the polls.
True, I agree Sugar Bowl was boring. But so was the Orange Bowl. Everyone knew OU would win. The outcome surprised no one. Everyone would take OU plus 7 over Michigan.
Michigan wasn't any better than Penn State. In fact, Penn State won more games.
Both the Orange Bowl and Sugar Bowl were boring games.
@@Bamruff62 Agreed. All triple option teams back then.
Get to the point faster.
Jesus Christ you just drug the story out.