1974 Chevy Vega Grumpy's Toy XI Pro Stock Startups & Revs
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2020
- 1974 Chevy Vega Grumpy's Toy XI Pro Stock starting and revving hard at Mecum Kissimmee 2020. This thing was so loud it threw me off balance when it was running. It sold for $220,000.
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Bill Jenkins wrote the book on small block chevys maybe these guys need to buy a copy and read it !!!
Amen, How to Build a Small Block Chevy. My dad has run the the 331 C.I. in his 55 Nomad since 1974.
Lean pop is rad when you have too much fuel pressure and the floats are set higher than giraffe nuts. That thing sounds nothing like a Pro Stock engine … and the guy that revs it should be embarrassed.
@@bradleymorris8875 i'm embarrassed just watching this.....
Need to get someone to work on that thing that knows what they are doing. Don't know who these guys are however I do know they don't have a clue what they are doing.
@@OutlawMercenary
Even NASCAR and F1 techs were stunned by the power these guys could squeeze out of carbureted, pushrod V-8s. Magic!
Its sad that this magnificent machine wasnt properly set up and tuned for this offering. Bill Jenkins had to be rolling over in his grave at this mess.
Wonder if there is any video of him driving this very same car onstage at Barrett Jackson back when it sold for $550,000. He had it running right back then. Whomever prepared
this disaster should have been flogged!
IT MAKES NO SENSE...PAID $577K AT BARRETT_JACKSON 11 YEARS AGO..THE COMPLETELY REDID THE CAR...NO LONGER ORIGINAL..$$$$$$......5 YEARS AGO TRIED SELLING AT MECUM WITH A RESERVE...WENT TO $300K AND PULLED IT OFF THE BLOCK...THEN SELL IT FOR $200.000K..??? IM CONFUSED......SHOULD HAVE HAD A MECHANIC, REAL DRIVER / TUNER WITH THE CAR..!!!
I totally agree Jerry, these guys are morons reving a cold motor like that and backfiring through the carb, poor tuning.
@ thank you. I've been saying this for years. Most of them couldn't turn a wrench to save their lives and are the reason people are asking 5 grand for a four door maverick 🤣
All about the money and are screwing the enthusiast who builds their own cars with blood sweat and tears.
@ yessir. I watch his videos now and then. He literally knows nothing about old school cars and happily destroys classic cars on the regular. He doesn't seem like a bad dude, just ignorant. I lost it when he crushed the field of classic mustangs. That was horrible.
send it to n.c. jenkins good friends garley daniels or bobby warren take care of it
Betcha those carbs weren't on fire under Grumpy's care. C'mon, man...
There's no way.
I’ll bet that too, something’s wrong with it, that’s what happens when the creator is gone, he would have it not doing that at all under his watch
Timing is obviously off .
Why would you present the car if it didn’t run? Ida been so embarrassed to even show up with it like that
Thumbnail alone, add the mecum sticker, yeah I already know the story. Fly by night clowns…
The Grump would be pissed 😡
Just goes to show you money can't buy talent or knowledge 😆
Wow! I remember this like it was just yesterday! Im 56 now already and I love these guys! Absolutely!
Omg adjust the timing bud even running doesn’t sound crisp or clean
Retard the timing 2 degrees and you won't get flare ups through the carbs. Nice to see Bills car is still here. Seen him race numerous times, grumpy and dyno Don Nicholson were two legends I loved to watch back in the day. Those were the days! My mom had a 74 vega, wish it sounded and looked like grumpys!
Maybe that’s the way Grump ran it (I doubt it), but why was the timing backed up so far?? It seems like it needs to be tuned properly. It’s painful to watch them keep running it with it popping back so bad.
Timing is all screwed up. Should know automatically somethings off, instead let's keep cranking it.
Bill Jenkins never would have used steel braided lines either, retarded timing also!!!!
First thing I was screaming.....TIMING!!! ...and then proceed to flood it more when its obviously flooded to begin with. There's FOUR accelerator pumps.....jeez.... Oh...instead of having a rag start on fire too....just crank it again and suck the flames down.....
morons not qualified to start this car
It's firing with the intake valves wide open.
Looks like somebody bought the car and has no idea what they are doing.
100%
My absolute 💯 favorite racer ever
Same color had a lot of fun in that car
I appreciate any pro stock no matter what I love them all. . they used to like when Dino Don beat him up
anyone else yelling crank it over, crank it, while he was melting that shirt on the carb fires lol just crank it and kill it
Them were the cars from the best days of pro stock
Saw that ride have sooo many "match races" vs Sox & Martin, Don Nicholson & Bob Glidden back in the day at the local drag strips, loved that ride.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
That's so cool
Thats the most ridiculous display of irresponsible stupidity I've ever seen. If the right person don't get that car it'll burn to the ground one day in a garage full of other high dollar history I'm afraid.
I was shocked through the hole video..bunch of idiots..
This is sitting on a museum floor now!!
Music to my ears! We need to reincarnate Grumpy to tune it!
How many wet t-shirts are needed to start a Chevy ?
Yep i agree with most here....that was painful.
Beautiful!!!!
that is an embarrassment to the king of tuning a motor.... Grumpy'd be pissed!!!!!
He would have gouged their fucking eyes out with a hot poker!!! They didn't call him grumpy for nothing... the sons a bitches!!
I owned a Vega with a 350 ci...around 350 hp...used it on the street early 80,s in Whicita.
I continued that tradition in the 90’s. Yellow 57 4D. We spent a lot of time at Super Shops, Halls. What’s you opinion of Dave Davis?
Real good on that cold motor to be revving the piss outta it.
Love old school muscle
I believe he won every event in 1972 with the Vega.
2 x 4 dominators on a sbc ! It might have been in storage for a long time...
I'm currently building this kit. Gorgeous sound.🤠👍
Sounds like not running on all cylinders… fouled plugs..? Timing??
Da Grump would be embarrassed at this side show .
anyone ever think of adjusting the timming before bringing it here?
I had a 74. I see fewer 74s than any other year for some reason.
I know you're doing the best you can. What kind of mileage does she get lol...
straight up and down.
I think it was late 70's or early eighties at a new car auto show in miami beach this car was offered at $12,000 and i passed on it. Can someone tighten the clamp my nuts are in it.
Nice to see this year Vega. Used to be you couldn’t swing a dead cat without hitting 3 or 4. Can’t recall the last one I’d seen in person.
I used to own a metal flake grey one. Mine was a 75 & it had a mild 327 from a 66 Nova. Th350 transmission. I ended up selling it back around 95 when emissions testing came around. It wouldn't pass & I couldn't get a waiver because it wasn't factory. Therefore, I couldn't get tabs. It also had an 8.5 in rear axle from a V8 Monza. I'd like to get another one someday. Or a V8 Pinto,Gremlin, Monza...a small hotrod of some sort, I'm not really brand particular. The last time I saw a Vega on the street was about a year ago. It was 76 Station wagon in good shape & was running good, but it had an engine swap. It had a 22R Toyota engine & transmission. 😂 It was orange w/white interior. Reminded me of a Creamsicle.😂
That CRANE FIREBALL
cam makes it hard to start !!!?😂
This was almost sad
No, it really was and still is sad!!! Total disgrace to Grumpy's memory!!
Maybe it me, but when a carb was on fire, I'd crank it over and presto, fire out!
We are supposed to have one of his old 327s 12.5 to1 pistons aluminum rods 718 lift roller cam rpm range was 4800 to 7800
Sounds like the ignition system is cutting out.
ROOKIES !!!!!
Jesus, I know sometimes they lock the distributors, but I think someone needs to tune that thing a bit more!
Good night
Time for a new set of spark plugs. She never hit on all 8 once it was running
Iam building a 426 hemi powered Vega blown fuel injected. One of a kind 1,600 HP Vega. I can't wait to finish it. You all will see it.
Holy SHIT that thing was flooded out..😳 and I'm SURE that the plugs were fouled out to the point of NO return.
Look at the gray smoke coming out the back of the car.
I would have just quit at that point, and threw a new set of plugs in before trying to go any further.
Distributor might be off a notch or plug wire swapped. Carbs aren’t supposed to catch fire.
WOW what the heck
Missing like hell run on six
Timing
Would be doin good to run a 12:50 if you could even keep this bucket running to make a full pass. Who am I kidding, it won’t even idle to the burnout box.
I Can Smell the Fumes ✅
I remember timing my first engine
They don't, lol.
@@deeremeyer1749 🤣🤣
I'd keep the hood off in the meantime. At least until they learn a bit more about setting the timing
Esos mecánicos o maiztrillo primero afinen bien los carburadores y con tan solo 1 de 1150 Dominator jala nada mas que traiga arriba de 700 HP caballos de fuerza y funciona
Grumpys' Toy seems to have very old fuel in the tank. With the compression Jenkins was known for, the engine is going to complain. Drain the system, put in aviation gasoline......
Everyone here: "The timing is off...." 😒
Me: NO! The guy who started it flooded the piss out of it, to the point that the plugs were too far gone to EVER recover.
Put some new plugs in it, fire it up the correct way, and she'll be fine.
lot of recliner mechanics on hear
Jesus advance it some
Tuned by a guy named Gimpy.
Don't try starting it with the throttle wide open. that's just asking for fire. crank it will suck the fire down.
Damn guys.. Smaller jets in the carbs, a fresh set of plugs and set the timing for that crap fuel you put in there at the BP station fellas. Jeez..
Jets? main jets have nothing to do with idle and start up
*B* *P* pump gas , indeed ! HAHAHAHA ! That fuel is such garbage --- sold via *ARCO* here .
Quick! Gimme your bra! Cars on fire!
holy crap , advance the timing and put the 4224's on it . he didn't win any races with the 4500 dominators on the small block .
Ya too much carb.... A pair of matched 4150's and it'll start and run like a champ
@@jhoward5554 Yea, if you wanna knock 150h.p. out of it...
If the guy knew how to start the fricker, without flooding it to the point that the plugs were junk, it would have run fine.
You guys are Amateurs having T shirts to kill the flame, just restart it. Also a small block with 2 Dominators?? Ever heard of Too Much??
Get them a Honda.
I was expecting a snappy small block and all I got was stupid carb fires.
Grump would slap that guy
This is the most ignorant collection of comments I have ever seen, from people who think they know something about engines.
wow hello timing wtf
built a bbc15.1com no1couldn’t figure out running like this she ran9.8s set the timing where it idle crank right up ran10.4s fully stock shift on collar all original garage kept crank with original key full pipes bout to go threw it soon
man that about makes me sick bill would be pissed , if I die somebody better learn how to work on my engines and keep them running right or I will haunt them forever!
Needs a sniper
That is Larry Lombardo in the car but the carbs are terrible.....I'm sure he was just there to drive it on stage....
She needs some timing
Bill Jenkins was called the Giant Killer, with that small block 327 he was smoking Mopar's giant 426 hemi's
I THINK THOSE GUYS SHOULD LEARN HOW TO CHANGE PLUGS, GRUMP MUST BE ROLLIN IN HIS GRAVE...................................
Late timing!
Wow..jet it down and time it right..lol
Add some timing to it. Some real goofs in charge here.
Those DA should know the distributor is 180 off!
If it was 180 out it wouldn't run period
It can't be it would not run at all 180 out
That car was only competitive because NHRA added weight penalties to the dominant Hemi Mopars!!!!
Sweeeet!!!
Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins pioneered racing by dropping the clutch at 9000 revs -- bullet-proof starts. And that's a small block Mouse not a.big block Rat (check the headers).
😅
Bad gas for one.
When flames coming out from carb. dont stop cranking it so flames are ingested in, not coming out and air is cooling the carb. Dont stop cranking it. Don pump gas either. That guy dont know about carburator engines..
Fucking guy don't know about shit, period!!
Timing is off
Timing is way off and the plugs are fouled
all fucked up
Van halens real car
That truely sounds like crap. Someone should have at least replaced the fouled spark plugs.
Clearly needs a LS swap.
You need your eyes gouged out for that comment!!!
@@Anarchy-Is-Liberty a ls would start without coughing fire out of it. That engine at the least needs a tuner. Runs like crap.
@@king0cans ur new to how old Engines work and that’s ok
The timing is off
Almost sounds like the accelerater pump nozzles were plugged and the bowls needs priming for sure or maybe needs fresher fuel Grumpy would not have clapped after or during that run session if that car is for real make it run right check the valve clearance and the plugs before you start it up or let R.i.P. it is a part of American history
Clearly giving it too much fuel . Who let that guy in the driver seat.??
WTF TIMING WAY OUT.....................
Those are jere stahls headers!!!❤
Fix the timing
W.T.A.F?