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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- Charlie Hustle & The Matter of Pete Rose, a four-part @HBO Original Documentary Series, chronicles the life and career of one of sports' most polarizing figures. Premieres July 24 on @StreamOnMax. #PeteRoseHBO
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I am HONORED to have watched Pete Rose play the game of baseball the way it was intended to be played (100% intensity day in and day out while displaying an incredible skill base).
To be perfectly honest I believe Rose being in limbo of the Hall actually keeps him relevant and on everyone's mind so if he doesn't make it for now isn't a huge deal because we are talking about it 35 years after his banishment from baseball. He is the Hit King and in most people's opinion he is a HoF'er already so.
Mickey Mantle gave Pete Rose the nickname "Charlie Hustle" during spring training in his rookie year (1963).
Mantle was mocking Rose
im glad you told us this story. mantle was blue collar and hes poking fun at the hard working excited kid on the first day he joined a construction crew
@@CoeThomas Yes, From Oklahoma 🇺🇲🌪️🦬⚾💪😎👍🎊🏆🎉🎇🎆
This lifetime ban brought to you by Draft Kings.
When was that?
There’s the irony. MLB is obsessed with everyone betting on baseball to benefit themselves. He’s not in the game anymore and hasn’t been for a long time. It’s time to forgive and put the hits king in the HOF where he belongs. Do it now before he dies.
😂😂😂
That is dope! You made my day.
Players cant use draft kings, so kind of a stupidly pointless joke
@@themaestro3034 No it’s not. The fact MLB endorses gambling sites like DraftKing is hypocritical.
People freak when a player gets 3000 hits, Rose has over 4000
Don't get me started. You know the MLB banned him for life for betting on his own team to WIN but they still make money to this day selling his #14 jersey in the MLB Shop!
Yeah maybe he'd have gotten some of that money if he didn't gamble! 😂😂😂
And MLB now has sponsorships now with draftkings, fanduel, and so forth.
But sure, Pete Rose is evil 🙄
Pete claims to have only bet on his team to win, but he’s also a consummate liar.
For argue’s sake, let’s take him at his word.
What does not betting on your team tip off to the mafia?
Also, betting on your team to win a single game could cause tremendous damage to your team in the long run (playing a hurt player, keeping a pitcher in longer than necessary, etc.)
Personally, I think they should let him into the Hall of Fame but have half of his exhibition document his achievements and the other document his failures. Don’t sugar coat anything. Use it as the ultimate teaching example.
Pete claims to have only bet on his team to win, but he’s also a consummate liar.
For argue’s sake, let’s take him at his word.
What does not betting on your team tip off to the mafia?
Also, betting on your team to win a single game could cause tremendous damage to your team in the long run (playing a hurt player, keeping a pitcher in longer than necessary, etc.)
Personally, I think they should let him into the Hall of Fame but have half of his exhibition document his achievements and the other document his failures. Don’t sugar coat anything. Use it as the ultimate teaching example.
There's a sign on the door that says, don't bet. Pretty simple.
I translated this documentary to Swedish. It is interesting to be sure. Also I learned a lot of baseball terms!
Paul Giamatti's dad was the commissioner at the time.
never made that connection - thanks for sharing.
🤯
I have a Pete Rose signed baseball on a Bart Giamatti ball.
@@elbob17 irony of ironies.
He didn't bet against his team, but still everyone knows from single A to the show....gambling = death. He should be in the HoF, but he knew what the consequences were....he could have gambled on anything else..... the rules apply to everyone..... especially the GOAT.
I think it's been forgotten, but Giamatti said if at any time Pete confessed, he'd be eligible for reinstatement.
"Shakespeare would have a field day with this story"
--Marty Brennaman
Do you know who was a great Shakespearean scholar? A. Bartlett Giamatti.
One of the greatest players of all-time
and also one of the greatest liars of all time. Pete ruined everything he did on the field because he could not admit his faults
No denying that. He gambled on the game - wrong to do - but his PRODUCTION ON THE DIAMOND - cannot be denied 💯
@@cdrum5994 The irony is that MLB promotes gambling, profits off gambling after scolding those who dared to cross that line.
Factual error in the graphic at :15. He was the 1973 MVP. Joe Morgan was 1975.
You are correct. Morgan won back-to-back MVPs in 1975 and 1976.
@@patrickr.5900and joe probably should’ve been mvp in 1973 too
Nice catch. I think Rose won 1975 World Series MVP.
How do you get that wrong?
A crime Pete rose is not in the hall of fame. All of the most FAMOUS ATHLETES HAVE GAMBLED!!!! Give this man his due
Read Charlie hustle recently, so looking forward to seeing this!
CHARLIE HUSTLE ! ⚾️
I watched this guy in the 70’s and 80’s !
He SHOULD MOST DEFINITELY BE IN THE HALL !
If you’re going off Talent. Leadership. And LOVE for the game ?
Then Peter Edward Rose Sr. SHOULD be Enshrined ! #14 !
Pete was everything a player should be. He didn’t wear elbow pads, shin guards at bat, or oven mitts to steal bases. He didn’t do quirky gestures back to the dugout when he hit a double. Hopefully the guys playing today watch this series and learn something.
🙄
It’s been 35 years and he put up the numbers. I’m sure everyone will learn from his mistakes. He should be on the ballot.
1:31 "Integrity still matters" If you have to state something so obvious you don't even believe that. Look around at every institution in this country and say, "Integrity still matters" with a straight face.
I'll definitely be watching.
Shoeless Joe Jackson: Getting thrown out of baseball was like having part of me amputated
When baseball was actually fun.
Can't wait for this 🔥
Going in as Charlie hustle
He was and probably still is a gambling addict. That sad behavior led him to betray his friends, one of whom served prison time rather than admit that Rose (his hero) bet on baseball. Rose was a great player but a creep.
If Reggie bush can get his “heisman”* trophy back then Pete Rose should be eligible for the hall of fame. Looks like a lot of athletes have broken rules for money yet Rose is the only one still getting done dirty for getting caught
Pete is a hall of dancer hands down give this man his luv before a dies
He dances?
@@TL2354😂
The point is to hit the ball and get on base. Pete has the most hits all time. Enough said...
Been waiting on somebody to take a chance on a good documentary for Charlie without feeling a response of ridicule
Mans paid his dues, let him in the hall
DEFINITELY A HALL OF FAMER!
Pete Rose has only 1 person to blame for his not being in the HOF….Pete Rose is his own worst enemy. He has never shown any contrition which may have helped his cause!
The MLB are hypocrites. You can't watch one inning of a game without them telling you the odds so you can bet on any situation in the game. What a joke.
I haven’t watched a game when they say the odds
@@TL2354then you haven’t watched a game lately
haha, im sorry, but the 'integrity still matters' comment is laughable in MLB....now, i love baseball....but let's not get it twisted
Bobby Cox is in the HOF despite beating up his wife. Bud Selig is in the HOF despite being the Commissioner during the Steroid Era and Strike of 1994. Gaylord Perry is in the HOF despite writing a book on how he doctored the ball through his career. But integrity matters!
It matters to many of us. Whether the league promotes it is another issue.
This makes me bonkers!
Pete is The Goat!!!!! 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Let Pete IN the HOF !!!!
he broke the rules and lied when he could have redeemed himself.
@@dr.johnsuarez2330kinda like all of the steroid users that lied and/or still lying about it. If you let any of them in the HOF, then you need to let Pete in as well.
AGREED! He deserves the HOF!
it’s about time for Pete induction to the Hall of Fame
No its time for you to get your head examined. The guy is a disgrace.
You know people can’t hide their edge it always gives them away lol
Series MVP in 75
Most of the people who don’t think he should be in Cooperstown have never been able to foul off a baseball much less hit one
Excellent! 👍👍
100%
What about Johnny Bench?
So he owed his bookies tens of thousands of dollars and he called their bluffs. Now all he had to do was pay them. And to pay them all he had to do was card shows. Sign stuff over and over. He chose to call their bluff they rolled over on them. So he didnt pay his debts and it all blew up, and he lied over and over about it. Johnny Bench will answer this question and has for decades. Doe he belong in HOF HE says NO! Baseball HOF has character, integrity and sportsmanship and it matters. Betting while being a manager is I think worse than betting and being a player. He has gotten what he deserved. no HOF For you Pete!! But he as a great player and all time great and his bats and balls and gloves and hats uniforms are in the hall. he is not forgotten he is just not in the hall of fame with a bust. he did it to himself.
Yeah ... Because the first guy they stuck in the hall of fame was Cobb ... A man of "character, integrity and sportsmanship" ... Give me a break ... They won't let him in the HOF but the gift shop will gladly accept your money for Pete Rose memorabilia ... Such a stunning level of integrity.
@@timothybernardi68 Cobb would be like Curt Schilling and be waiting. things have changed but betting on games because of 1919 hasnt changed.
If Pete Rose was ever up for the HOF...i'm sure he would bet on it
73 MVP not 75. 75 was Joe Morgan. come on hbo
Put Charlie Hustle in the Hall of Fame? Nope.
Are there racists, wife beaters & drunks in the HOF? Yes, there are.
But betting on baseball has been the "death penalty" crime in baseball for over a century, the one thing that people in the game CAN NOT do.
Rose did bet on baseball, lied about it for years, and only came "clean" when he was trying to sell a book (My Prison Without Bars).
And after all these years, he still doesn't get it - at 1:38: "All I did is bet on baseball" - the "death penalty" crime!
Sorry Pete, playing the game for all it was worth, which you did, does not excuse the betting, nor does it excuse the lying about it for well over a decade for that matter.
I will support Pete getting into the HOF only after Shoeless Joe Jackson is inducted
0:16 Rose was not MVP in 1975. It was 1973. Hope the doc gets better from here.
Nice catch. I think Rose was 1975 World Series MVP.
Everytime a see a current hitter lollygag to 1B, I think of Pete Rose
The Hall of Fame is for the fans, not the Major League Baseball. He should be in there.
Paul Giammatti would agree, Pete Rose Hall of Famer
No he isn’t.
Pete is The Goat 🐐@@lindamcdaniel2419
If only he had an interpreter
Charlie Hustle!!!! Play hard or don't show up 💨⚾️⚾️
This guy played for the fans and the love of the game. HOF without a doubt
Pete Rose Cincinnati Reds Legend For LyF⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
Im going to watch the living fvkk out of this
Jimmy McGill
Slippin Jimmy
James Morgan McGill
Esquire!
Is it only watchable in América because i doesnt apear to ne
I gotta be honest. Pete Rose should atleast be in the ballot. Let the bbwaa/veterans committee decide if they wanna put him in. He’s definitely a HOF player
Bud Selig made sure that can NEVER happen and Rob Manfred is carrying out his order
This is an old topic that probably doesn't need to be rehashed but he signed his agreement on the lifetime ban. The case is closed. It doesn't even matter. Baseball fans know Pete Rose is one of the greatest players ever.
Pete the Cheat
btw Ray Fosse is a class act
Has Pete outlived his accusers?
Met Pete in April at a show in nj … for my money he’s paid his debt
Ban the sports writers and let Charlie Hustle in.
The real truest hometown hero in MLB history in my opinion.
Let him in 👏
I couldn't possible care less about his hits or hustle. I do dispise unfaithful behavior from any married adult and it is especially disgusting and unlawful when it involves girls that are under age and suppose to be in high school. Do a few Google searches and decide for yourself.
HOF as a player? He'll Yes. As a coach and his betting... nope. He's not available as a coach. As a player.... yes!
There is no difference. You are either eligible or you aren't. They dont have different categories like that.
“Integrity still matters”
Yet Barry Bonds, Clemons, McGuire and all the steroid freaks are still eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Gambling can be as addictive to certain people as alcohol is to others. It may ruin as many lives and not just those of the gambler. It's not easy to separate the addictive disease from the moral issues. Rose seems to have been as compulsive and driven by winning in Baseball as he was at betting and loosing in life.
I’ve been saying since he’s been eligible in 1992: Rose should be banned from Managing in Baseball because he gambled on the sport. But should be in the HOF for 4,256 hits.
He shouldn’t be anywhere near the hall of fame. He is a complete disgrace to the game.
@@themaestro3034 No one played the game harder for longer.
@@MiRi-zi4wp so? No one was caught betting on the sport they were managing, either. 🙄
@@themaestro3034 You sound like one very unhappy and hateful person. The type comes home and beats his wife, kids and pets. Get some help, find that positive energy to where you don't have to bad mouth others to make yourself feel better. Do better man.
@@themaestro3034what you gonna do stop watching the game if he were to get in hypothetically who cares if he bet it’s not that big of a deal
Ohtani still playing
Ohtani didn't bet his translator did using his name.
@@LeighMet u beleive everything media tells u how many vaccines u got
@@LeighMetHmmm, yeah okay. 🙄
@@jasondousett3620 I hate Ohtani and that whole salary deferment is crooked to its core, but theres no proof ohtani gambled anything.
@@jasondousett3620 So you have proof
Pete deserves to be in HOF. BEFORE Barry Bonds* For Sure!!!!!
HE DIDNT WIN MVP IN 1975, I QUESTION ACCURACY OF A DOCUMENTARY THAT FUMBLES THE FACTS IN THE TRAILER.
Exactly.
Was this a real song or made for the doc?
It was a real song by Pamela Neal in 1979 called "Charlie Hustle"
I know there are Pete hater’s out there. So let me figure this out. His gambling must’ve affected his hitting since he only has 4,256 hits and three batting titles (more hits than anyone else). Surely it affected his fielding since he only won two Gold Gloves. Had to affect his desire to win since he only has three World Series rings and Season and World Series MVP awards. All that bad stuff and they had the nerve to nickname him “Charlie Hustle”🤨
He bet on the game as a manager. When he dies he can become eliedgable again
You typed all that without even bothering to look that he bet as a MANAGER. 😂
I love Pete Rose the ball player, my hero as a kid. I definitely appreciated how he played the game.
@@AD-df5tmplayer manager
He never bet on a game in which he played, and he never bet on the Mets to cover the spread. Put him in the HOF! 😁
Where is Bob Odenkirk and Steve Buscemi
❤
he was MVP in 73 not 75...graphic is wrong
World Series MVP in 1975, right?
my brother-in-law HATES pete rose. he's a red sox fan. yet, he did love the moment kane tombstoned him at wrestlemania XIV
Fascinating
Incredible baseball player, not an incredible human being
He should be in the hall fame. There are worst things than gambling
Subjective. Point is that he violated Rule 21 which is prominently posted all over dugouts and clubhouses and then lied about it for 10 years. He also agreed to the lifetime ban. Read “Charlie Hustle” by Keith O’Brien. It is the best book ever written about Rose and it tells the truth. Bottom line is that he will never get in during any of our lifetimes.
Especially when MLB endorses Fanduel, DraftKing, etc.
MLB goes out of their way to convict, ban, and destroy Pete’s Baseball career due to gambling, yet now goes out of their way to Promote and glorify gambling. Absolutely Unfkgbelievable
Players still can't bet on baseball.
@@davidleary4524 Yeah but their interpreters cant either can they? Oh, and i bet they had no influence on their wives and parents accidentally placing bets as well…
The MLB is sponsored by Draft Kings, an online gambling website. It includes in game gambling. Pete played his hardest every single day. He LOVED the game. Let him in the HOF before he dies already.
In my opinion, it’s not really about gambling so much as it is the way he’s handled it. Yes, he finally admitted to gambling but it’s some of the stuff he says and does to this day that I find suspect. There are some things that he’s still not truthful about, or it’s always somebody else’s fault regarding this or that. I don’t think the sincerity/humility chips reside in his brain housing group. After watching this documentary, I kept thinking to myself he just doesn’t get it. JMO
Considering the way all the sports leagues embrace gambling now, I would have to say that it's probably time for Rose to be made eligible again.
BUT.
Then you have to take into consideration who Pete Rose is. He's still a lying con man who does whatever he can to make a buck. He's a consummate hustler. I don't want him to be able to profit off being able to add "HOF" to the end of his autograph. I also don't want to hear him deliver an induction speech, which will be self-serving and full of denials.
So make Pete Rose eligible and induct him into the HOF. As soon as he's no longer around.
and we have players now being busted for gambling.
I don't understand why Pete has to be reinstated. He knew the.rules, broke them, then lied about it for 15 years. He deserves the banishment from baseball. The real issue is with the HOF, which is not part of MLB, making a rule after his banishment that no suspended player can be voted in. Pete's records are legit, and he belongs in the HOF. Put pressure on them to change the rule made up after the fact, not MLB, which had their gambling rule in effect since the 1920's.
Should be in hall of fame but should not be allowed to broadcast or make money off the game.
What is this somg in the beginning
Pamela Neal - Charlie Hustle (1979)
It's a far cry for MLB to throw around the word integrity. Rampant racism, steroid use, and greed have plagued the league for decades.
I'm not old enough to remember Pete playing. All time hits leader (aside from Ichiro) should mean something, but he also knew the rule and chose to disregard it. Pete had the cake, but threw it away instead of eating it.
I visited Cooperstown once , I left sick to my stomach because my boy Pete wasn’t on the wall. What a disgrace.
Integrity still matters and MLB hall of fame don't go together. Look into some of the actions of some hall of famers. Pete Rose is a choir boy compared to some of them
Greatest hitter in mlb history but let’s leave him out of the hall of fame 👍 guess his skin is too light 😉
Hall Of Famer IGAF though a flying doughnut what you think or say.
if you robbed banks you'd be in prison
And now they are begging fans to gamble on the sport
Yes. It’s never been against the rules for fans to bet on baseball.
For more than a century, it’s been abundantly clear to everyone that players can not bet on baseball and to bet on a game in which they enjoy a duty to perform will yield a lifetime banishment.
There’s no incompatibility between saying people in the game must refrain from behaviors permitted to the fans.
Airlines serve alcohol to their passengers during flights, but the pilots may not imbibe.
That’s not hypocrisy; it’s common sense.
Baseball does the same thing. A fan gets in too deep to organized crime and it’s lamentable, but the game is uninjured.
A player, manager, or umpire gets in deep to the Mafia and the honesty of the game is gone. That happens, and the game will die.
hit king banned but ohtani allowed to make 700mil!! ridiculous double standard!!
Pete is a HOF, but why are they still telling his story😒
If Ohtani can lose millions and still PLAY, why is The best living Player in sports not aloud to be apart of the game? What presence of we setting for the Future?
He wasn’t close to the best player in sports. Ever. Not by a long shot. He wasn’t even the best player of his sport when he played. He was a singles hitter who made the most of his minimal athletic skills.
Pete Rose should be enshrined in the HOF, and he should be reinstated in MLB!!!!, and if Cooperstown won't allow him,well then they should shut it down!!!!
The national baseball hall of fame is a museum. A museum by definition from goggle is a building in which objects of historical, scientific, artistic, or cultural interest are stored and exhibited. Pete rose is significant for what he has done in baseball as a player and what he has done as a gambler. He should be allowed into the hall of fame to complete the missing piece in the big red machine.