How To (Properly) Polymeric Sand a Paver Patio | (Techniseal)
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Polymeric Sand is the last and MOST IMPORTANT step in the process of building a paver patio. This is how we do it, Enjoy!
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To see all the videos from this project, click this playlist link right here👉 • Lakeside Patio Install
To see the video on how we installed the (Easy Joint) seen in this video, click this link right here👉 • How To Use "Easy Joint...
00:00 Intro
01:35 Heading to the job
07:25 At the job, let's get ready
11:43 Techniseal Polymeric Sand / Coverage
14:48 1st sweep through
18:20 Compacting / 2nd sweep through
25:25 Falling in the lake...
31:41 Blowing / Wetting it down - Jak na to + styl
You are officially the first to fall off the dock! Many of come close, including me. Your expression when the leaf blower started was priceless!! Be sure to stop by this summer.
I typically love being the 1st to do something but I'm not sure about that one...😂 It is a cool thing to be able to say though, glad it was me and glad it was on video! I was shocked when the blower started up no problem... LOL I would love to stop by sometime!
The patio looks awesome!! Nice job CHS!
I got no critique. God Bless.
Thank you! ✌
Nice plunge! The patio came through the winter perfectly! Can’t wait to enjoy it this summer, feel free to stop in if you guys are in the neighborhood, I still owe you a boat ride!
😂 I though you would like that one... Glad to hear it made it through its 1st cold season. I would love to take you up on the boat ride, such a beautiful lake. Thanks again!
Beautilly done.
Thank you.
Looks great!!
Thanks!
I wouldn't mind falling in such a nice lake on a nice sunny day! Patio looks amazing!
While it set us back on timing, it was quite refreshing... 😂 ✌
Nicely done.
Thank you ✌
Great video as always.
Thank you
Up to 4 inches!! Impressive
😂 Yea, some good stuff I guess...
outstanding video, I wish I had a lake next to my office and dip in occasionally.
Another find job by the boys .👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks brother!
Love how many trees there are
It is beautiful on that property. 👌
Great footage of swim ... I was immediately thinking ... oh no the blower!!
I was thinking the same thing…and much to my surprise and yours it started!!
😂 I'm so glad I had the camera on my head! And the blower starting right up was an awesome feeling. 👌
I just use turf mats from Home Depot. Cheap , thin but strong enough not to scuff pavers. Little bit more of a pain than having a paver roller. But easier than going with a hand tamper. I’ve done it your way too. So I know the struggle 😂 Paver rollers are so expensive
Not a bad idea at all... Paver rollers are really expensive and certainly not a priority on the buying list...LOL ✌
I literally thought to myself, after seeing your first video on this job site, that I would definitely jump off the dock on the last day of work
….we almost had the same idea haha!
😂 I wanted to go for a swim the entire time I was there, did not expect it to be at that specific spot & time though.... LOL The water was beautiful too... 👌
Hey man. We use that techniseal sand. You gotta make sure you get the high performance, if you have big joints. The other stuff looks similar but only good up to 1" joints.
Techniseal also makes foam glue. It works SOOO well. If you haven't seen it, you should look into it.
That's good to know, thanks for the feedback on it. I will have to check out that foam glue ✌
Love your videos, starting my patio soon, whats your opinion on drain tile under a patio? Putting patio next to pool and wanna make sure i get rain water away
Thank you! Drainage tile under the patio will do nothing but help, especially when it abuts a pool. In some situations I think it is overkill but still, it will not hurt at all. Good luck with your patio! ✌
That dark border with the lighter field is prob my fav look. Nice work once again....Im going send you some floaties to keep in the truck if your going to be back by the water this summer! hahah
My favorite look as well man, very clean! And the floaties would be a great idea! 🤣🤣👌
Ohh no…glad your ok bud…lol. I was thinking in last video that you all were luck no one has stepped back off the wall…At least it cooled ya down lol..another amazing job brother.
😂 Yep, I thought I was going to make it out of the job without falling too... LOL It was refreshing for sure, thanks as always for the feedback brother! ✌
I recommend Dry Treat Stain Proof for a sealer. It impregnates, just be careful where you buy. There’s a bunch of knock offs
Never heard of that, I'll have to check it out ✌
Where’s Trav when you need an immediate laugh lol
Right! 🤣 ✌
Hey Kyle! Love the vids. Always look forward to watching them. Can u elaborate more on ur topic of sealing? I just recently had my paver patio installed and was planning on getting them sealed. In ur professional opinion, u don't think sealing should be done? Can u explain further why not to seal? Or maybe even make a short video explaining why it's a bad idea? Thanks again Kyle.... Keep those vids coming 😎👍
Thank you, glad you are enjoying the channel! So I don't think sealing a patio is a bad thing but you need to make sure it is done properly. That's what I'm not sure about... I don't have much experience with sealers and there are so many bad stories of sealer ruining pavers. Which if that happens as the installer, you could be liable for replacing them. That would be a huge hit and it is something I am not comfortable with risking. Sealing pavers does help with protection and adds life to the pavers for sure. But just like sealing a deck, you will need to do it every couple years for it to be effective because it wears off... My only advice would be to make sure the one doing it has the right experience so nothing bad happens.
@@TheChristianHardscaper thanks for the advice. Will have to rethink about sealing or not.
Great video as always. They keep me motivated to work ony own 1,100 sqft open grade patio. I was wondering if you would recommend I use easy joint or poly sand? My joints can handle either option. Im in Mass too so I gotta think about freeze thaw cycles, water draining etc. Easy Joint sounds better because the water drains down into the open grade and then deeper down into the earth. But IDK if its as good as they say or what not because it seems like all the landscaping stores down here in southern MA carry mostly poly sand. Im alright with paying the extra for easy joint if its going to be less maintenance and better over all. Anyways thanks for the great videos, please keep um coming, cheers!
Thank you very much and I'm glad they are helping with your own project! I don't typically use easy joint for any paver project, I only use it for particular situations. When done right, regular polymeric sand works just fine and is much cheaper...
I hope you’re ok falling off the dock. Patio looks great.
I am ok, thank you! It was an awesome install, we had a blast ✌
I been following you since 2 years ago I have been doing landscaping for 6 years but not hardscape only did one hardscape building a wall but since I been watching you I feel like I can do this on my own because the company what advice would you give to someone who haven’t done hardscape before and trying to get into but have some experience
Hey man, glad the videos have been helpful for you! I would say the best thing for you to do is try to get a few small patio / walkway projects and ease your way into it. You can offer the service but only accept what you feel comfortable with. Then after a few installs you will get better and better. And once your work gets better, you will get more job opportunities simply because of it. Slow & steady wins the race. Good luck and God Bless! ✌
What do you think of the g2 gator sand? I find the g2 sand hardens better however the grains of sand in the tec seal bags is more fine so it’s easier to get the sand in small cracks where cuts are.
I used G2 for a couple years, I had pretty good luck with it until last year. A few projects took awhile to set... But they did set eventually and are still good. But I think they got some bad feedback because my supplier switched to the Techniseal last year. I used it on a ton of projects last years and have been very happy with the results. One thing I can say is that the Black G2 is definitely darker than the black Techniseal. Either way, they are both good products.
26:50 It's like that scene in Old School when 'Frank the Tank' got tranq and fell into the pool,
I was expecting in the background to hear... "🎵Hello Darkness my old friend, I've come to talk with you again🎶.
😂 Classic! Great reference 👌 LOL!
As soon as I seen you fall in the lake I was like that would be me. Last video I kept saying if that was me walking around the worksite I would fall in somehow.
🤣 Trust me, I'm surprised it took so long for me to fall in...LOL! Very glad I got it on camera though... 😂 ✌
Hey, I asked this inanother vid too, but would love to know. Yall use a a permeable base and bedding layer of clean aggregate. What prevents the polymeric sand from sinking into the bedding and base layers? I want to start using permeable base/bedding layers but dont understand how polysand lasts in this situation.
The sand gets stopped in the bedding stone because it binds up. And then once you have watered the poly sand and it hardens, it will not migrate because it basically is not sand anymore at that point. ✌
The matt for the compactor is worth it ... imo
I totally agree, just been slacking on finding one. I got a remedy for that coming this season though...
Looking like the csi Miami version of hardscaping this episode. 😂
That patio looks awesome. I used the Gator maxx g2 sand on that patio I did last summer. It was pretty easy to use and didn't leave a residue. Set up really strong almost like rubber gym flooring in consistency.
😂 nice! Glad to hear the G2 worked out for you. Alliance has good products. ✌
That was a great fall man, give it a solid 8/10 on the dismount 😂 real talk tho, the patio looks great
😂 Thanks man! Very graceful dismount for sure...LOL ✌
This may be a dumb question, but do you not lose “too much” polymeric sand into the leveling chips in this process?
Not a dumb question at all. The chip stone may eat a little compared to sand bedding but not much more. Once the polymeric sand clogs the chip stone it stops. And then when you water it and it hardens, it won't migrate further. ✌
Do you think it's better than G2? Have heard some people complain about Gator poly sand but I haven't had any issues personally. Also gotta love 102.5 in the morning!
I had great luck with it all last year. I used it on every project and they all set very well. The year before we had a couple issues with G2 and so did many other contractors / homeowners. That is actually a big reason my supplier switched... So, not sure what they changed but I never really had an issue with Alliance before last year...
@@TheChristianHardscaper yeah my local suppliers switched to Techniseal or polysweep as well. Thanks for input!
I just had concrete pavers installed with techniseal poly. I was advised to seal it but i definitely dont want to f up the color. Heard you say no need. Any other advice? The biggest worry is contractor said the concrete can stain... i dunno. i also live in San Diego not a ton of rain.
I don't think sealing pavers is necessary. It will help prevent stains for sure but it is just like sealing a deck, you need to do it every couple years or the sealer will just wear off... And if you don't do it just right or if it rains before the sealer sets, you could mess up the pavers. So if you do decide to seal it, make sure it is done properly and wait about 30 days after the install to make sure the poly sand is completely set and that the pavers have been properly cured also.
Hay Pro, do you know the Paver Roller from Weber? I don't know if it's available in the USA, possibly for hire. It's a very good machine for compacting pavement. There are two different types, a VPR 450 or a VPR 700, maybe you can rent one somewhere and try it out. Very good work guys.
Hey there, I have actually used one of those and have a video with it. Works excellent for sure👌 Very expensive to purchase though. Not sure if I can rent it from anywhere... I should look into that.
Here is a link to the video when I used it 👉czcams.com/video/mmQIHU2b3qg/video.html
@@TheChristianHardscaper cool 👍
I saw diamonds 💎💎💎 on the lake floor😂, you should check if taking knife out.😉
😂 there was definitely something down there, but I did not want to go back in and find out...
Beautiful work, Kyle.
Wondering why you used Easy Joint sand instead of filling the gaps with chip stone?
Hope all is well.
John
Thanks John! I usually want the water to drain into the base or backfill of a wall, but in this situation I wanted it to run over the wall and into the water. So the easy joint was the better option on this one. ✌
@TheChristianHardscaper
Makes sense. Thanks
Nice plunge, btw!
At the risk of asking a stupid question, could you use stone dust purely for bluestone slab joints if you bedded them in chipstone and based with open grade? I’ve always liked the finish of stone dust, and I absolutely understand why it shouldn’t be used for base or bedding, but does it work well enough for jointing? Or does it cause issues here as well? This is for a project in a flat backyard and neighborhood in Connecticut. No history of issues with flooding of any kind.
What type of pavers are those? Great job by the way!
Thank you, they are made by (Techo Bloc) and are called (Blu 60)
@@TheChristianHardscaper thanks keep up the great work!
Hey Mr Long Walk, meet Mr Short Pier
🤣 1st step is a doosy... LOL
If you pressure wash the pavers, can I just reapply polymeric sand to the top?
You need at least 1" of the joints cleaned out before new polymeric sand. If you just add a thin skim coat, it will not bind well and will start to peel off after some bad rain storms.
What lake is that?
I would love to say but I don't want to blow up the customers spot. ✌
LOL!
Pretty funny chit about the 4" bag claim. Honesty in package advertising has never been a strong standard. Companies have been dishonestly over killing the claims on their products since labels on products originated.
Yea, crazy claim for sure...LOL I could never imagine laying a 4" bead of Poly... 🤣 But you are correct, it's a tale as old as time with packaging. ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper Yeah. How would a 4 inch joint full of sand not be a weak joint? You mean to tell me they've found a way to defy physics? Haha
I want to put a patio in at our montana place. Kalispell has hard winters. Is it possible to do what this series details in an environment where it gets below zero?
Nice, this method is especially good for very cold climates. The only thing I would recommend in really harsh winter climates is to dig a bit deeper than the typical 8-10 inches to create a deeper base. That will help insure no issues. But yes, this is the method for you ✌
LOL...I'm sure Travis wishes he was there! What kind of stone is that in the flower beds?
He was so upset that he wasn't there! 😂 and that is 3/4" crushed (Bluestone) ✌
Thanks Kyle - it looks amazing@@TheChristianHardscaper