The Polymeric Sand Video
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- If you are trying to learn how to install polymeric sand, check out this video to see how we do it. There are plenty of tips and tricks included and also some entertainment...LOL. Enjoy the video!
#polymericsand #pavers #patio #paverpatio #hardscaping #hardscapes #concrete #landscaping #hardscapedesign #landscapeconstruction
If you want to see all the videos from this project, click this playlist link right here 👉 • Lake House Makeover!
00:00 The Bucket is Orange
00:41 What kind of polymeric sand?
01:54 How much coverage does 1 bag give?
02:37 Sweeping in the 1st layer
06:04 Compacting the 1st layer
08:24 Sweeping in the 2nd layer
11:11 Blowing off the dust
12:27 How to Poly Sand (Recap)
13:43 How much coverage did we actually get?
15:43 Seriously, it is Orange.
17:28 Time to wet it down. - Jak na to + styl
Suggested topic for another video: distinction between polymeric sand brands. Wife and I just finished a 480 sq ft patio. Had bought four bags of Dyna Optimax, thinking we would support a local business and not be too picky. I mean, how different can these products be? Famous last words. Before applying the sand, we watched a few more videos and detected that there might be a distinction between sand you would use if the pavers were over a pre-existing concrete patio, vs over soil, compacted gravel, and open base. Our situation is pavers over sand over pre-existing concrete. The only brand I could find locally that declared itself 'overlay or non overlay' was Alliant G2. I bought a bag and did a test. VERY glad i did. The difference in outcome was drastic. Visually, with Dyna Optimax, the grain size was uniform and fine. It would definitely drop into cracks easily and fill well. Meanwhile, G2 was composed of various grain sizes, of different colors, not a uniform grain size. In the test, water soaked through to the bottom of the G2 fill and it hardened up all the way through the vertical cross section of the paver depth after 24 hours. Excellent outcome. With Dyna, water only managed to seep into the top 1/8" of the sand, leaving a hard, but thin crust over the remaining 7/8 of the sand, which, when I pulled apart the test pavers after 24 hours, was still dry powder. This was such a poor outcome that I thought I must have done it wrong. So this evening I set up another test: two paper cups. Drill a bunch of holes in the bottom of the cups. Fill to 1 inch deep with both products. Dump the same amount of water in both. With G2 the water moved right on through and drained out the bottom. With Dyna,, again water seeped into only the top 1/8 or 1/4 inch, and 3/4 inch of standing water remained in the cup for many minutes. Maybe this Dyna product is meant for some use other than pavers?
I’m jealous of that homeowner who now has that beautiful patio. Great job Kyle and employees of the month!!
Thank you, I am a little jealous myself… 😂✌🏻
Your border pavers cutting video came in clutch for me last week! Thanks a million, you’re page is awesome!
Glad to hear it, thanks for the feedback! ✌
"Don't tell Trav"...immediately turn around and tell Travis yourself. 😆 The bucket is ahrange!
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Hey, thanks for the video. That bucket argument had me rolling. Your method here is the first I've heard mention what to me is very obvious to me. But because not many do it 2x nor mention the reasons for it, but most of all the tamping. I'm about to polymeric sand the patio I put in and needed to see this exact video. So thank you for your insight. Also, you're through explanation . Cheers!
My pleasure, glad you had a good laugh! 🤣 Also glad the video was helpful. Thanks for the feedback! ✌
Looks amazing! 🤗 Just started doing a pathway in my backyard and this was really helpful, since I’ve never done this before. And I could listen to you guys talk all day, 😂 love the accents.🤗🤷🏼♀️
Thank you and I'm glad it was helpful! I always forget how much of an accent we have compared to most parts of the country.. 😂 ✌
Beautiful job on the patio guys!
Thank you!
THE single most informative video, verbally and practically that I have had the good fortune to watch. Absolutely brilliant, well done men. Thanking you heaps.
I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad the video was helpful! ✌
Really knowledgeable ❤❤❤❤
Great tip on starting in the low point.
Yes sir, very important ✌
Awesome job boys 🤙🏾 perfection ✨
Thank you! ✌
Great job!
Thanks!
Awesome job! 💯👍🏻
Thanks!
Nice job guys.
Thanks!
Nice trailer
Nice job 👍🏽
Thanks!
Another sweet job! It's yellow !!!!lol!!
Thanks! 😂✌
Good grip…good stroke. 😅
Just messin with you. 😂
Great videos as always
🤣 thanks! ✌🏻
I need someone like you here in Miami 😢😢
That video was hilarious brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
😂 Glad you liked it brother ✌🏻
You got me at "it's a biological orange bucket" haha Thanks for your great tips, ill be making my patio in 2 weeks and your video helped me a lot ! Good work ! You still need to see the optometrist man :P
🤣 That's hilarious! 🤣 Glad the videos have been helpful, Good luck on your patio! ✌
All buckets have a colour identity and there's really no way to know what it is until they share their pronouns. #dobetter
Great Job !! Wish you lived in the Phoenix area, I would have you do my patio with the same pavers.
Thank you! That sure would be the longest drive to the job that I ever had... 🤣✌
I just finished doing the sand and CANNOT STRESS enough to MAKE SURE ALL THE LOOSE SAND IS GONE before watering. Sweep and sweep walk away and do it again don't rush. I now have some blotches and thicker looking joints that will need to be cleaned up. Overall still happy doing it myself as I reclaimed the pavers from my laneway. My sand was the same color as stone and missed some (even after using a leaf blower)
You are 100% correct. Polymeric sand is NOT easy to install. It takes patience and experience.
If I am putting brick over degraded cement with a inch base of regular sand, what should I fill the joints with? This is an a greenhouse that does not get wet. I really want to create more stability where the bricks dont shake out if position.
Great video guys, very informative. I have an old patio with textured pavers with widely varying joint sizes as well as some low spots that collect water.
Two questions: (1) Will tamping work on an old patio [installed many years ago]
(2) is it advisable to use polymeric sand even with the varying joint sizes and low spots?
Tamping probably wont help with an old patio and if you polymeric sand it but there are sunken areas, it will cause puddling when it rains in those areas. Im' sure they will do away but after some time...
Hey, question...because you have an open grade base doesnt the polysand end up trickling thoruhg the bedding layer overtime and falling out tof the paver joints??? I want to use open grade base but don't understand how the polysand will last.
I apologize in advance if you’ve already covered these topics in a video. A couple topics I’d like to see you talk about are 1) efflorescence, and 2) care and maintenance in the months/years subsequent to the install. Yeah, I went ahead and installed the 4’ concrete slab steps (by myself, by hand). One of them has what looks like “spilled ice cream” on top, but it won’t scrub off. Efflorescence. Thanks for the inspiration.
Hello, no problem at all. I have talked about efflorescence a few times on a couple videos but not in much detail. Pretty much every concrete paver, block or step is susceptible to it. It is lime that was mixed in with the concrete mix pushing through the surface. It is part of the curing process and can sometimes go away on it’s own. But sometimes it is there forever… unfortunately that is just part of using concrete products.
Like this project in particular, if you look closely at the wall caps and pavers, you will see some with it. You just can’t get away from it. They sell cleaners that can sometimes help, but most of them can’t be used within the first year of installation because it is part of the curing process…
I hope that answers some of your questions ✌🏻
Also, congratulations on getting them in! Where they pretty dang heavy..?
Thanks! And thanks for the info. I have 4 more steps ordered to complete the project. Yeah, the higher I go, the heavier they seem! My wife has already landscaped the lower set!
where in the country do they do that kind of work and how much do they charge per foot
hey man, I love your videos - question for you or any of your viewers; im currently building a patio in my backyard using crush and run as the base. We just got to our final height and level before installing the setting bed. Problem is the last of the crush that we used had a good amount of dirt in it. When watering and compacting there are a few spots (not too many) that get muddy. This worries me about drainage and settling, but I am hoping that if I keep wetting it and tamping it that maybe I can disperse the dirt and ensure its fully settled before installing the setting bed? Anyway how screwed do you think I am? We have about 6 inches of crush and only the last inch or so is dirty. Should I be worried?
Hey man, sorry for the late response. But I guess it depends on how dirty you are talking. Every once in awhile we get some dirt mixed in from the tracks of the machine, but nothing super severe... So I'm not too sure what your situation was.
Faded Orange
The old bucket has color dysmorphia. Soon ole Homer the bucket will be asking for his handle to be removed, a hole poked in him, to be painted blue and demanding you address him as Marge.
🤣🤣 Best comment so far, that's hilarious! ✌
I know it's not the topic of this video, but what material did you use between the house and the first row of paver? There seems to be a gap maybe filled with gravel? I'm asking because i'm planning to install pavers againt concrete steps that are not perfectly straight so I thought that leaving a small gap (1/2" ) between the steps and pavers and fill it with some gravel or 1/4" angular rock should retain the pavers in place and also allow me align the pavers correctly. If you have any other suggestions?
We used 1/4 inch clean crushed stone in that gap to give some breathing room. I use that material in a lot of gaps between structures that I want water to drain.
Definitely two different shades of orange!😂
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Travis is right it does look yellow but it does have a little hint of orange
Crazy how much the color can fade with those things…
Hey, thanks for all the great videos. Question: have you ever done a permeable patio using your base method + 1/8 gravel in between the pavers rather than poly sand? If not are there any reasons why you wouldn't recommend that?
No problem. I have built a large (Permeable) driveway before, we used crushed stone in the joints. I think it is an excellent system for certain situations. For a patio, not so much unless there is water issues in the area. If not, poly sand is better because it hardens and locks the pavers together better.
@@TheChristianHardscaper got it, I will stick to the formula then. Thanks for the reply
Too funny; it's Yellow 😂
I have to agree, YELLOW 😂
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Hello, what do you recommend for subbase material and depth for a patio installed on sandy southeast soil. Keep up with the videos, they are extremely helpful..
I recommend (Open Grade Base) for all patios no matter the soil type or climate you have. Here is a video I made which explains it in more detail 👉czcams.com/video/ChaJe3JqD6I/video.html
Nice job!
Quick question, I need to repair a low spot on my circular patio. I used the polymeric sand too. How do I remove the polymeric sand in between the blocks? What is the best method to pull it out?
Thank you! When I need to remove poly sand that is still hard, I use a 4 inch grinder with a diamond blade to cut the joint lines and then once you pull the pavers out, you can clean the edges up better before you put them back in ✌
great video! would you need to tamp if the pavers are already embedded/pre existing, im looking to re-sand and wouldn't a compactor risk damaging the already embedded pavers?
If you are re-sanding, you may not have to tamp. Just make sure you clean the joints out really good before re-doing the sand.
@@TheChristianHardscaper cool, will do. Thanks for the reply!
I'm a new subscriber and have already binge-watched several videos. I noticed in most of your videos the job ends after applying the poly sand. Do you typically apply sealer after? What are your thoughts on sealers in general? Thanks!
Sweet, thanks for the support and I hope the videos have been helpful! I do not typically use sealers, Never really push it much to my customers... Applying it can cause issues if done wrong or done before moisture comes, and if it does not work right, your pavers will be basically ruined. Plus you have to do it every couple years like a wooden porch. So until I know more about the sealers or find one that works great, I just stay away from it. ✌
Im trying to decide on pavers/ colors im down to 2 choices techo block blu 60 slate shale gray and genest grand katahdin granite which do you prefer since you've done both and my vinyl siding is light gray
I honestly like them both in different ways but don't prefer one over the other. They are both solid products and will both look great with a light grey house. I would recommend you going with your own personal preference. Neither one will let you down ✌
Should you seal coat the interlocking after polymeric sand.? If so how long should you wait??
You certainly can, I typically do not though. But if you wanted too, I recommend waiting like a week after polymeric sand to make sure it is completely set. Also be sure the pavers are completely dry... ✌
What is the best way to remove this HP Next Gel from the paver surface? I used a pressure washer to get rid of the chunks but after it rains there is still blotches of the product that stay wet.
I'm not sure honestly... Very tough stain to remove.
I've just installed some paver slabs in our backyard to create a patio that my wife wanted. Thanks to your videos I've been able to do it. The slabs I installed are 2 inches/50mm thick and they do not recommend they be tamped. The slabs have little raised ridges to keep uniform joints between the slabs. I would like to use polymeric sand but it says don't compact the slabs. What do I do?
They probably mean don't use a plate compactor. If you have some kind of pad and tamp by hand softly, you will be all set. Tamping them softly is better than not at all. ✌
@@TheChristianHardscaper there's a polymeric sand called NOCO for when you can't tamper. Just found out about it last night. I'll ask my local landscape supplier if they have it. Thanks so much for all of your help both through your youtube videos and answering my questions. I'm almost done and my wife loves the new patio.
I would like my driveway to be done with that type of stone . I wonder if it would work ,or is that type of stone paver only really made for foot traffic?
A driveway definitely can be done with this method, just a few additional steps need in the process.
Why not sand the corners? And what kind rock is in the corner to match the paver and the sand.
I love your videos. Would you be willing to do my walkway in Dighton, MA or is that too far? Keep up the good work!
Thank you, Dighton is a little over an hour from me. But I may be willing to travel there. Send me an email and maybe we could figure something out (TheChristianHardscaper@gmail.com)
I think I've completely managed to misunderstand your process!
Didn't think I even needed to fill the gaps between the stones with any sand! I was thinking that was the benefit of using the granite chips and butting the mottled edge pavers up close so that water will drain right through...
Could I leave the gaps unfilled without sand? I'm trying to do this in my own garden in the UK. Pavers here are nowhere near as nice over here so will have to settle for driveway blocks/square flag stones. I dream of a patio like this one man! To save on costs of granite chips could I build up on a hard core base to raise the height? As I've got quite a large volume to fill. Hardcore as in broken up bricks and stones as the first layer on top of base, then fill in with the granite chips on top of the hardcore? Would that be a terrible idea?
LOL! This system is a (Hybrid) system. You can use it for permeable or non permeable applications. If you do not want to use sand in the joints so the water can travel right through, you can use a very small crushed stone that will allow for that. As far as the hardcore, you can probably use it, just be sure to fill in all the gaps well with crushed stone to make sure nothing can shift later down the road. ✌
So how do you like the new polymeric sand and tell Travis to go to home depot and ask the powers that be what color there buckets are lol. I really like those colors they look so muck like stone especially when they are wet.
It worked really good, I'm very happy with the results. And you will not find a yellow bucket at Home Depot, that's for sure... 🤣 Those pavers are really nice and they matched the house perfect ✌
Bucket is YELLOW 😂😂😂
Hi. I liked your videos. One question, do you only water it one time? If no, then, how often you must water it?
Thanks
We water it just one time but you go over an area lightly 2-3 times in the one watering
Great video! Can you water it on a cloudy day? Or do you need a sunny day?
Thank you, you can water on a cloudy day just be very careful not to if there is rain in the forecast for 48hrs. You need a couple days of nice sunny weather for the sand to set properly.
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🍊 to yellowish!
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Great work 👏
Just wondering, what is the cost of this project?
A project like this cost between $16,000 - $20,000
Is the gap along the wall for drainage?
Yes it is. That gets filled in with clean chip stone so the water can travel right through it down into the French drain we installed. ✌🏻
Nice I appreciate all your videos. I am a hardscape installer in MD. We actually just switched to chip stone instead of sand !
Glad to hear it! You will not go back, trust me. ✌
Nice Video. I'm always surprised how so many hardscapers/ landscapers are willing to build up against siding on a home. It sounds like you built a drain of some kind here but I do feel it's best to advocate for attempting to match local codes when building immediately adjacent to a home. Have you ascertained where the top of foundation is? Similarly, may industry reps would recommend NOT using a permeable base within 10' of a home's foundation . Attaching an impervious membrane below a patio of this nature and ensuring water does not infiltrate in an area where it contributes to hydrostatic pressure on the foundation is an option. Clearly, MANY homes are built in a way which makes it impossible/ nearly impossible to achieve ideal landscape grading conditions,,,, but, worth noting for viewers. Also. You don't want to be sucking that "powder" (Not dust ; ) ) in while installing poly and you especially don't want your employees to be.... Safety First here.... you are posting something that thousands of people are watching. SAFETY first..... then, "Things have gotta be dry" ; ). Keep up the good work.... this type of work is incredibly rewarding - and humbling at times.
It's a faded orange colour bucket
Orange bucket
Yes sir! ✌
I've heard some people have used plain mortar mix.
That would make a pretty big mess... I use mortar in between joints of natural stone, but only when I build steps.
@@TheChristianHardscaperdo you have any video of this?? Thanks for your time
Why can't you use a compactor?
You can, but you need a rubber pad for the bottom which I did not have plus the pull string on it broke…
One bucket is orange and the other is yellow .
Bucket is green obviously! You are both wrong 😂
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I like nextgel so much better than g2
I was very happy with the result. I will definitely use it again ✌
Adiós
no dust but there's powder, lol.
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Yellow club 😂
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I dont know what the fuss was about. The bucket was clearly green.
Now that you mention it, I can see that... 🤣 ✌
Are we talking about a bucket or a person? 🤷♂️
We will never know… 😂✌🏻
So you could not be bothered to hire a wacker plate? - sure the customer really loves that you could not be bothered to and done a cheep out on the job. I wont be using you to do any work.
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Your irrational response to how he chose to do this one project makes no sense. He probably doesn’t *need* your money. So…there’s that to consider. Get your own wacker plate and have at it guy.
You’re a wacker plate🙄🙄 I came here to learn how to use the P sand and it was a great video. I’m not trying to buy a wacker anything, either, so it was perfect. 🤗😂🤗
Bro!! I seriously hope you were joking about the bucket being a "lighter orange"... if you truly think the bucket is NOT yellow, you need glasses and fast... the broom, bucket, and bags all there are CLEARLY yellow
If you did not understand the metaphor behind the entire joke, I'm not sure what to tell you...
@@TheChristianHardscaperI don’t think you know what metaphor means lol.
Techniseal sux -- Go back to the other one or Flexlock
It has been working great for me this season....
The bucket is colorfluid. Its pronouns are yel/low.
🤣 I love it!! 👌
I am looking to do a patio but where I live we frequently get strong winds that last for several hours. Is there a way to add tie down points to a paver patio so we can keep our furniture from blowing away? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
You certainly can anchor things down to pavers. Depending on what you are trying to do, there are multiple concrete anchors you can use. For simple anchoring solutions, try (Tapcons)
I've used a bunch of TechNaSeal-HP on huge Flagstone Patios & Sidewalks & Driveways up here in Nor-Idaho... @ GozzerRanchGlof&LakeClub...
Killer stuff for wide cracks, that get driven on daily..! Nice Work Fellas..!!
U do not know what your doin boy
Lol 🤙🏻
You need to ask the bucket what it identifies as, maybe it is not even a bucket, it may want to be addressed as a pail.🪣
😂 that is very true! I should not have jumped to that conclusion… 😂✌🏻
Don't forget it might be thems or theys too lol