Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks. The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3). He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234). Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"! Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous. As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere. It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians). Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations. Now Herodotus explains very well that the Ionians were Pelasgians who, after having rubbed shoulders with the Greeks and learned their language, became full-fledged Hellenes... The Ionians were thus a fraction of the Pelasgians people (🇦🇱) having adopted the civilization of the Hellenic invaders (🇬🇷), assimilated their culture and integrated their ethnicity ( Herodotus I,56,57,58/VIII,44 ). Etc
Only the legendary Achilles could make a hundred meter throw and hit a man in the throat. As Hector says later, "Ive never seen a spear thrown like that. An impossible throw!"
@@Gnossiene369 "Legendary" can be used about real people. It doesn't mean fictional, it means "impressive enough that people will talk about it for a pretty long time". Jimi was a legendary guitarist. The comment states as a general fact "Only the legendary Achilles could make a hundred meter throw ..." and quotes Hector, in the book, as a source for this consideration, as if we can assume that if it's in the book surely such details are all correct enough for us to just accept them as fact, without embellishment or poetic interpretation. Consequently the comment stands as an expression of being particularly impressed with, real world implications of this nugget of information: what a man achilles must have been to pull that off. If he thought that it was fictional, there would be no point in marvelling at it. As someone who corrects theses for a living I don't mind telling you that that is stretching the source reference to the breaking point.
@TJ Evers II Shall we read a bit of Merriam Webster together you and I? leg·end·ary | \ ˈle-jən-ˌder-ē , -ˌde-rē \ Definition of legendary 1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of legend or a legend legendary creatures of the sea 2 : well-known, famous a legendary football player - Or would you, for whatever bizarre reason, rather converse with me in the English of Shakespeare or some other random historical period of personal preference?
The crazy thing is that Achilles almost definitely knew it was Hector leading the charge, yet deliberately targeted his lieutenant, instead. Achilles could have effectively ended the war (or at least dealt a huge blow to the Trojans) right there and then, yet chose not to just to play head games with Hector. Pretty insane.
@Emperor Ssraeshza True but the Greeks even in the books could not get to the walls without defeating it's defender, Hector. The Greeks needed Achilles to get them to the wall and Odysseus to get inside the walls.
No glory to be had. If he killed hector with a throw no one would have seen it. Achilles wanted it to happen in front of all the people of Troy and before the Greeks as well. Maximize his glory.
Every time I watch this scene, I always think that even though Achilles pulls off an icredible kill, Eudorus' contribution cannot be ommited; he gives the spear in such a perfect way, that all Achilles has to do is simply rotate the spear aim and throw. He doesn't to change his grip, he doesn't have to point the tip to the right direction... nothing.
This scene is amazing, it shows the difference in strength between the two. Hector tries to get him back at a shorter distance but still doesn’t put the same amount of strength, speed and accuracy Achilles did. Showing that even tho Hector is a great warrior he isn’t on Achilles level.
Well to be fair. Achilles was on leveled ground and was significantly stronger than Hector. So he could put more power, strength, speed and accuracy into his throw. Hector was on a horse, constantly bouncing up and down. So throwing his spear was never gonna have the same strength, power, or speed behind it as Achilles did
His ability to throw the spear, is beyond comprehension. Indeed, a true well prepared warrior. Hours of training, he then has the ability to do almost impossible things, that an average could do. Nonetheless, he wanted glory, so he worked to get it.
I don't know about you, but I'd turn around and run like hell if I saw him make that throw. Dude can chuck a spear like that, no way am I getting involved.
Late comment, but Achilles would have known that the man in front wasn't Hector. He wasn't aiming to kill Hector, he was intentionally aiming to kill his 'right hand man'. Achilles wanted a more glorious fight with Hector - a fight that people would take about for thousands of years - and he got it in the end.
Ernesto Gastelum He knew Hector was in front because he's the prince of Troy and leads most of their battles. So essentially he did know which one was Hector.
One of the best ancient movies of all the time. Achilles make the full use of gravity while throwing results gaining more speed as he throwing from upper side to lower side,whereas hector throws against the gravity viz;
using trigonometry and accounting for camera angles in relation to the sun and the shadows cast i have calculated that the spear travelled 3.4 miles before striking target
I love it that Achilles could´ve easily killed Hector with the throw there and later in the temple but he chose not to because he didn´t have a big enough audience.
@@ilyassnejjar6195 there are people who are accurate from long distances with handheld weapons. It seems impossible today because no one does this anymore
![Hector ! Screaming Scene [TROY]](/img/n.gif)
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Alv Mate i think he should nerf
lol..OP
best comment
"Warn the men. And give me that spear, so I can warn _their_ men."
😍😍
Homer in the Iliad and the Odyssey speaks only of Danaans, Achaeans, Argians and not of Greeks.
The Hellenes (tribe of Southern Thessaly also called Argos Pelasgians), at his time, did not constitute yet a people or a Nation (Thucydides I,3).
He affirms in the Iliad that "Zeus is Pelasgians and dodonean" (XVI,234).
Precisely these Pelasgians (🇦🇱) were considered by all the ancient Greek authors as "the first inhabitants of Greece" before "The arrival of the Hellenes (🇬🇷)"!
Another word that was misunderstood or glossed over. Indeed the Greeks arrived from somewhere because they were not indigenous.
As they did not come from the North ( one wanted to make us believe the opposite), they could only be foreigners coming from elsewhere.
It is this elsewhere which is difficult to define very precisely. But the legends, which are only embellished, idealized or metaphorized historical facts, give us some precious indications on the first foreign ethnic groups having occupied the country of the Pelasgians: the Danaans (Egyptians from whom the Dorians descend), the Cadmeans (Phoenicians) and the Pelopides (Assyrians).
Among the peoples of archaic Greece the Ionians, Aeolians and Arcadians were descendants of the Pelasgians, indigenous populations conquered by the Hellenic invaders: they could claim to be indigenous populations.
Now Herodotus explains very well that the Ionians were Pelasgians who, after having rubbed shoulders with the Greeks and learned their language, became full-fledged Hellenes...
The Ionians were thus a fraction of the Pelasgians people (🇦🇱) having adopted the civilization of the Hellenic invaders (🇬🇷), assimilated their culture and integrated their ethnicity ( Herodotus I,56,57,58/VIII,44 ).
Etc
I fucking love how they use subtle moments like this demonstrating Achilles is a demigod
The family of Priamon is too though, lots of demigods in this. But Achilles still was something else.
Hector's reaction is priceless
Hector was like:
dafuq?
Hector is god
Hector's face was like "GOOD GADS!!! That could have been me!"
He turned his head twice like "ok seriously? Like how dafuq bro?"
You mean princeless
*rider dies*
horse was like do i go home or just keep running....eh
Ganji Raja Good one
Lmao
It kept on running.
😂😂😂😂
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Horse: i didn't sighn up for this!
Only the legendary Achilles could make a hundred meter throw and hit a man in the throat. As Hector says later, "Ive never seen a spear thrown like that. An impossible throw!"
Not to mention, he was battling all that time, like how much strength and stamina do you have dude!?
It's ... out of an ancient book ... you get that right?
@@whynottalklikeapirat He used the word legendary. Hence talking about a legend. He is very aware.
@@Gnossiene369 "Legendary" can be used about real people. It doesn't mean fictional, it means "impressive enough that people will talk about it for a pretty long time". Jimi was a legendary guitarist. The comment states as a general fact "Only the legendary Achilles could make a hundred meter throw ..." and quotes Hector, in the book, as a source for this consideration, as if we can assume that if it's in the book surely such details are all correct enough for us to just accept them as fact, without embellishment or poetic interpretation. Consequently the comment stands as an expression of being particularly impressed with, real world implications of this nugget of information: what a man achilles must have been to pull that off. If he thought that it was fictional, there would be no point in marvelling at it. As someone who corrects theses for a living I don't mind telling you that that is stretching the source reference to the breaking point.
@TJ Evers II Shall we read a bit of Merriam Webster together you and I?
leg·end·ary | \ ˈle-jən-ˌder-ē
, -ˌde-rē \
Definition of legendary
1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of legend or a legend legendary creatures of the sea
2 : well-known, famous a legendary football player
- Or would you, for whatever bizarre reason, rather converse with me in the English of Shakespeare or some other random historical period of personal preference?
This was when Hector realized he was a mere family man, soldier and mortal going up against either a demi-god or a supreme level Olympic athlete
no human is throwing a javelin like that, achilles was a demi god.
@@highjim7778 If you believe the Greek mythology, he was in fact a demi-god. Son of Thetis and the mortal king Peleus.
And Hector was all like fuck me
The amount of power he put into that throw was PHENOMENAL and his form was just SICK looking
I love the smile from Eudorus as Achilles begins the throw. The sheer pleasure one gets from having a front row seat to watch a craftsman at work.
Damn.....he killed hectors right hand man like it was nothing...Thats some cold shit right there!
Eat With Mark The Shark! relax its just a movie lol but its cool though haha
Left
Kobe!!
Hector should to cry at that moment or what?
Anthony Sefo 🤣🤣 Just a movie. it was based real events. Hector and Achilles were actual Warriors. Did you not do History on geek mythology?
Brad's technique looked flawless all throughout the movie. I wonder how much he trained.
I worked with an actor in London and his fight choreographer did all the fights in the movie.
He said in an interview that the filming was very intense, so intense he couldn’t smoke that time
6 months
0:03, he just wanted to hold hands going inside.
Underrated comment.
Sus
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA
Jamar Williams well Achilles was sus if you read the Iliad
😆😆😆
That horse said "I can still fight."
"Hey Achilles betcha can't hit one of those Riders with my Spear!"
"Hold my wine!"
Tyler Keaton You sack of wine!
Fuck the water, bring me wine
The crazy thing is that Achilles almost definitely knew it was Hector leading the charge, yet deliberately targeted his lieutenant, instead. Achilles could have effectively ended the war (or at least dealt a huge blow to the Trojans) right there and then, yet chose not to just to play head games with Hector. Pretty insane.
ladistar Honor
He deliberately let hector when he was surrounded, he just said it was too soon to kill princes
"Why fight you now prince of troy? ...with no one to see you fall."
@Emperor Ssraeshza True but the Greeks even in the books could not get to the walls without defeating it's defender, Hector. The Greeks needed Achilles to get them to the wall and Odysseus to get inside the walls.
No glory to be had. If he killed hector with a throw no one would have seen it. Achilles wanted it to happen in front of all the people of Troy and before the Greeks as well. Maximize his glory.
Achilles still holds the world record for Javelin Throw. What a legend.
Or Uwe Hohn who, in 1984, threw the javelin 104.80 metres.
What a hit, son. What a hit
AlienMidget123 strange we never saw him kill some Nazis
He was aiming for the horse...
AlienMidget123 mlm
But can he do it at a cold night in Stoke? That's the real question.
@@Tehkenny1 you're going to confuse the Americans
(Achilles throws the spear and kills the solider)
Solider: excellent shot my lord.
Achilles: I was aiming for the horse.
Ben Geiger what the fuck is a solider
It's probably a typo you dip stick
009LinkWork You can’t typo two times. Or can you?
Ben Geiger where can I find where they said that?
Not solider than the spear
horse: "what happened? i feel great"
Achilles : 3 time Javelin olympic gold medalist.
That was the "I'm not to be trifled with" spear throw. Hector's face said it all
Every time I watch this scene, I always think that even though Achilles pulls off an icredible kill, Eudorus' contribution cannot be ommited; he gives the spear in such a perfect way, that all Achilles has to do is simply rotate the spear aim and throw. He doesn't to change his grip, he doesn't have to point the tip to the right direction... nothing.
Great analysis man.
Nevr thought about that.
Not sure if intending to be humorous but I laughed out loud.
If I was hector after seeing that throw. "Know what. You can just have the temple bro."
@@buffalojoe78 😅😅😅😅😅😅 *random soldier "she gone learn today"
@@jkarnes7529 imagine if ajax aka the giant hammer guy entered that temple.
That's why no one remember your name
That's why no one will remember your name.
0:25 WTF?! REPORT HIM
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LMAO
hax!!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA great oneeee
LOL
HAHHAHAAHHAA
Hacks
This scene is amazing, it shows the difference in strength between the two. Hector tries to get him back at a shorter distance but still doesn’t put the same amount of strength, speed and accuracy Achilles did. Showing that even tho Hector is a great warrior he isn’t on Achilles level.
Well to be fair. Achilles was on leveled ground and was significantly stronger than Hector. So he could put more power, strength, speed and accuracy into his throw. Hector was on a horse, constantly bouncing up and down. So throwing his spear was never gonna have the same strength, power, or speed behind it as Achilles did
I mean he thrw the spear from the back of a horse, without footing it's considerably weaker
that's how he speared Angelina Jolie.
You win everything
Ew you nasty bitch 😂😂
써니蛮竜 and now she removed that spear
Andree Tungcab doesn't undo the spearing lmao
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) he spear her alright
This scene deserves an Oscar for no reason
Hector’s reaction freakin’ KILLS me, lmao. The way he just had to halt his charge to process what the hell just happened.
His ability to throw the spear, is beyond comprehension. Indeed, a true well prepared warrior. Hours of training, he then has the ability to do almost impossible things, that an average could do. Nonetheless, he wanted glory, so he worked to get it.
“It was an impossible throw.” - Hector’s later comment to Andromache
Hector's reaction was like "Really? Just like that? You serious Achilles?"
His hands are steady..... his form........ PERFECT!
If i was riding and saw one of my boys get him from that far..id be like " whoa whoaaaaaa...lets slow down a lil here .Whats the rush.." LOL
Achilles: Hmmm 140 yards - a number 3 javelin I think.
You can tell he played a lot of "artillery simulator"
Achilles, the most famous and dangerous warrior ever born
Ali ibn abi talib
Noticed he’s walking DOWN the STEPS before throwing? 👀🔥🔥
Achilles: "warn the men, wait..."
Achilles after spear thrown, "I have warned them"
Uncle rico taught Achilles how to throw that spear.
I know it's a late reply but... Uncle Rico obviously got his time machine working
0:19 Suck on that Leonidas .!
funny thing is that the Spartans spears and shield are twice heavier from what they use.
What's even more telling is their respective fights against giants :)
Watch his footing from 0:16 at 0.25 speed. Achilles throws the spear while climbing down two steps!! Literally an impossible throw like Hector says.
I don't know about you, but I'd turn around and run like hell if I saw him make that throw. Dude can chuck a spear like that, no way am I getting involved.
+Boxghost102
'That's why no one will remember your name.'
+crowviking lmao I no right
f
Lemme go get my m16 brb Achilles
He only had one spear , own your balls soldier.
0:28 soldier was like : WTF? what did i do.....
If Achilles were alive today, he would be an inherited Olympic champion in javelin throwing.
The one with the most skill in this scene is Achilles's friend at 0:04, who has the power to create spears out of thin air.
“Back in the day I could throw a spear a quarter mile.”
Uncle Rico is the best.
LionsAllday DETROIT Someone needs to edit this with the scene from Napoleon Dynamite where Uncle RICO throws the steak at him.
Hector: ABORT MISSION ABORT MISSION
0:14 That's why you never try to show off and run in front of your leader cuz everyone assume that leader always lead the charge.
Late comment, but Achilles would have known that the man in front wasn't Hector. He wasn't aiming to kill Hector, he was intentionally aiming to kill his 'right hand man'. Achilles wanted a more glorious fight with Hector - a fight that people would take about for thousands of years - and he got it in the end.
umm he didnt know which one was Hector until he met him inside the temple
Ernesto Gastelum He knew Hector was in front because he's the prince of Troy and leads most of their battles. So essentially he did know which one was Hector.
I DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOUR DUMB hector wasnt in front
@@the_krakyn except it's all fiction
The soldiers should have been like:
“Run away!”
“Run away!”
😂😂😂
It'd be hilarious if they saw it and just turned around.
Hector be like, "Oh, hell no!"
Hector reaction was like 'Wait, thats illegal'
I couldn't refrain from making choking sounds every time the spear makes impact.
That horse was thinking "Well thank you, Achilles! I can run so much faster now!"
"No more spurs! Now I run for fun!"
One of the best ancient movies of all the time. Achilles make the full use of gravity while throwing results gaining more speed as he throwing from upper side to lower side,whereas hector throws against the gravity viz;
get this man in the nfl
Most badass scene! The delicious look of disbelief on Hectors face haha.
Poor Tecton. Was a promising second in command
If he had a stack of Spears I bet by the time he got the 2nd they would've been on their way back to Troy :D
What a badass scene... :o
Achillies: hold my beer ..
I love how he doesn’t even need to adjust his grip
The way he threw that javelin , it reminded me of every action scene from your average south indian movie.
Id watched it too but its only clip bu great movie though , and they form a shield wall its absolutely fantastic
That's just plain awesome.
That was a crazy shot by achilles!!! That would be a new olympic and a world record by that legendary worrior.
Nobody does this role better than bred Pitt, awesome role-play.
Whenever i see Brad Pitt in a movie or on TV. I will ALWAYS see, Achilles. This is my favorite performance of his
0:18 the moment he throws.. even his friend is scared lol
that talent was never seen again
Narrator: It was at this point that Hector knew that his kingdom was in deep dudu.
Owh man why cant we have this kinda many movie each year
If you dig "Troy" then read "Gates of Fire"
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Olympic and World Record is for Achilles :v
Olympic
Unbelievable throw!!!
"warn the men and tell them to call an ambulance... but not for me."
And in that moment prince hector knew he f* up
using trigonometry and accounting for camera angles in relation to the sun and the shadows cast i have calculated that the spear travelled 3.4 miles before striking target
More like .25 of a mile, your over exaggerating distance
That was about 50-60 yards.
@@samuelbailey9855 He did not throw that spear 440 yards (over 4 football fields away.)
@@cavaliothorson7755 Alright Nerd
@@samuelbailey9855 Nah I'm just not stupid.
I love it that Achilles could´ve easily killed Hector with the throw there and later in the temple but he chose not to because he didn´t have a big enough audience.
0:29 *_Hector Reaction was like : Well..We're F****d!_*
OMG how did I not see this ? Achilles is the night king !
H.Bannai except this time he'll be able to get someone at long range and NOT miss at point blank
Achilles.! Achilles.! Achilles.! Achilles.! Achilles.!!!!!
My all time favorite movie, Brad Pitt was awesome
gooner4life his best performance and I saw all his films
It's mine too dude followed by *THE LAST SAMURAI* Tom Cruise
My fvrt film
When you get killed by a hacker.
This scene made me take up a career in the Javelin throw. I've gone on to throw over 700 meters, breaking many records
0:25 When you think about pulling out but you don’t 😂😂
Touchdown!
Hector was like: "Well... That's not good!"
Achilles really was a master of war
God of war
Hector should have reacted with a, Nope!... and turned around lol
Hector to his wife: I have seen an impossible spear hurl today. Never seen before. It was like a thunder bolt thrown from sky
Plot twist:
He was originally throwing it as a warning spear
Achilles showed respect for Hector....
When you cast an ULT during a cut scene
Badass achilles
In the director's cut, they edit out the forceful "HYAH" behind Achilles' throw to make it seem even more effortless.
Hector face was the perfect representation to the words: What The Fuck?!
Hector wants no part of that. He says wtf gods why can't I do that
When you throw your last throwing spear in Mount & Blade
Is that Warband or Bammerlord?
Nothing but Neck
Lightingwarrior
LMAO!!!
Lightingwarrior distance was so long dude
Is there a referance
Arif Yilmaz nothing but net, duh lol
Nothing but non armor, lol
Although seemingly impossible even realistically there were warriors that could do throws like that with a spear. Very rare but not impossible
somethingsomethingDarkSide he is Herodotos I think
somethingsomethingDarkSide well obviously he’s been to countless battles and seen it firsthand
It was an impossible throw not only because of the distance and power behind it, but also accuracy.
@somethingsomethingDarkSide for people that perfected things day to day they can make an impossible throw to some seem effortless to themselves
@@ilyassnejjar6195 there are people who are accurate from long distances with handheld weapons. It seems impossible today because no one does this anymore