buff ideas, spread the word Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze. Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe one or two more new attack strings. amke his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the on we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
@@ivanluna525 liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe one or two more new attack strings. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the on we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
Quan chi low tentacle is a really strong move that is a mix up with a lot of his strings. It should cost two bars because there are kameos that can combo without the meter, (yes only a few) but if it was one bar there would be a lot more spamming of the move making it a less viable mix-up. (Plus, a mix up that combos when using meter is pretty good also, imagine if sub zeros enhanced slide if it wasn’t also an amores move combod easily for example)
That flight nerf was so unnecessary. They can just nerf the scaling on additional flights instead of taking away the cool s**t. I'm so fckin done with them removing fun instead of just making the fun weaker
Dude. If you had looked in the moveset before the patch. It explicitly states that using an extra flight in combos will cost meter. This was a bug fix. Fun is still there. Now it works as intended.
@@holysoap6255 it mentioned that canceling into air normals while in flight will cost meter. Not while you're on the ground. And even if it was a bug. It was nothing too broken to warrent a nerf and it was insanely fun. Even with the flighte being meterless homelander wasn't peacemaker level broken or Johnny level broken and they didn't even get touched or nerfed in any way
He’s the 3rd hardest execution character in the game, one of the weakest, and arguably has the worst damage. No he didn’t. 😂 If anything he needed buffs.
@@Kratosx23 Nah he was insane, damage is not everything and execution doesn't move a character up or down in the rankings. Tweedy just did a tier list not too long ago and he had Homelander top 5. He has safety, no gaps, flight mind games, solid zoning, command grab combos with Janet... he most certainly did not need any buffs
He needed the nerf to his block infinite, but his damage really didn’t need it, especially since Reptile was just buffed to be able to do even more meterless damage midscreen than Homelander did pre-patch.
buff ideas, spread the word
Havoc: He needs at least five new attack strings, he needs his legacy move that titan havoc has were he takes off his head and rolls it but its a mid, has the same affect as reptiles acid ball, and also hits mid exploding on contact. he also needs another one of his legacy moves that again titan havoc has where he bends his hole body for a low projectile and the amp of that can be a knock down allowing for combo extentions for cameos like scorpion
Sub-zero: he needs his attack strings made slightly faster except for his overhead, he also needs 1or 2 new attack string launchers, both his regular and amp iceball needs to be faster to not only be able to combo with it off of normal attack strings but in juggle combos too. He should have the ability to throw his ice clone, i also think he should have his ice burst special back with the same proporties as mkx to compliment his ice clone(but just does not send you that far away). lastly he needs some of his damage scailing off ground freeze.
Scorpion: should be buffed by making his amp ground tp a launcher again and make the cancel built in to both his regular and amp tp. he needs new strings some mix ups(i personally want his mkx overhead back). some moves need to be sped up
Quan shi: needs his mind control move from mkx back, and make half his attack strings faster. and finally his low tentacle needs to be one bar
liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe one or two more new attack strings. amke his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the on we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
y'all stay tune i got more heat for every character
Need to see your takes on reptile and liu kang
@@ivanluna525 liu kang: for starters nerf his f4 one button pressure but give him his 113 mkx launcher back along with maybe one or two more new attack strings. make his low fireball slightly faster, change his air fireball to the mkx fireball and the amp the on we have now. give him back his mk 11 dragon parry, and finally make his fatal blow start up 2 hits but the first one restands
That takes effort and new mo cap lol
Quan is in a good spot rn, he’s weak on paper but has a ton of tech that makes him really strong
Quan chi low tentacle is a really strong move that is a mix up with a lot of his strings. It should cost two bars because there are kameos that can combo without the meter, (yes only a few) but if it was one bar there would be a lot more spamming of the move making it a less viable mix-up. (Plus, a mix up that combos when using meter is pretty good also, imagine if sub zeros enhanced slide if it wasn’t also an amores move combod easily for example)
That flight nerf was so unnecessary. They can just nerf the scaling on additional flights instead of taking away the cool s**t. I'm so fckin done with them removing fun instead of just making the fun weaker
facts
Dude. If you had looked in the moveset before the patch. It explicitly states that using an extra flight in combos will cost meter. This was a bug fix. Fun is still there. Now it works as intended.
@@holysoap6255 it mentioned that canceling into air normals while in flight will cost meter. Not while you're on the ground.
And even if it was a bug.
It was nothing too broken to warrent a nerf and it was insanely fun.
Even with the flighte being meterless homelander wasn't peacemaker level broken or Johnny level broken and they didn't even get touched or nerfed in any way
Womp womp
420 no meter you wanted? Your on your own there buddy
Homelander gets 42% for 2 bars no Kameo. Reiko barely gets 35 for the same. Big sigh
He is Homelander.
It is a wonder he does not get 88% from one combo against people of slightly elevated human durability.
Nuh uh
@@kingol4801 Yeah, let's give him 8,000 HP with unblock-able eye laser to be more accurate. fck the balance, right?
@@kingol4801tf did I just read? 💀 shut up kid
Well... homelander don't get 42% command grab and homelander is no zoner so
Homelander been drinking his milk
In the same patch, Reptile got buffed, so now he gets a 43% meterless combo.
Its not a buff it's a fix
@@sparklols A fix that just ends up being a buff. Point is that they took away from Homelander the exact thing they gave Reptile.
@@OmegaFerretMusic no they fixed reptile to how he is supposed to be and they fixed home lander cuz he had crazy bugs
@@OmegaFerretMusic also homelander is much better than reptile it's not like reptile is top tier or something
Great video, nice update pre and post patch homelander.
This vid is crucial for us Homelander mains. Can u make a post patch optimals vid for Homelander mate?
How are you getting more damage? I’m doing the same exact moves but i get less damage
The highest meterless damage I have managed to get (post patch) is 383.62. Combo is B3, B22~U+S, J4~BF2 1, J4~BF2 1, 12~BF2 1, J12~BF2 2
Go check out Tweedy’s post patch Homelander video. His meterless optimals have higher damage, you’d might prefer those instead
I uploaded a 50% post-patch meterless combo in the corner.
How do you use meter to fly again? 😢 cant figure it out.
People were freaking out about his patch coming but he’s still really good,you don’t have to use the fly cancel 3 times for high damage😭
True you don’t. But they took fun out of it. Flashy combos are fun. Now to do stylish combos cost way more
So now Homelander is a fully functional character?
wtf is that floating animation when he grabs them. very janky
You can hold a direction to keep flying once you choke them for corner carry. If you don’t it’s just a normal animation
А комбо с Кеньши на 95% не пофиксили? Мдааа уж, хорош патч
He needed those nerfs tbh
He’s the 3rd hardest execution character in the game, one of the weakest, and arguably has the worst damage. No he didn’t. 😂 If anything he needed buffs.
@@Kratosx23 Nah he was insane, damage is not everything and execution doesn't move a character up or down in the rankings. Tweedy just did a tier list not too long ago and he had Homelander top 5. He has safety, no gaps, flight mind games, solid zoning, command grab combos with Janet... he most certainly did not need any buffs
No
@@haysan32homelander was just fine where he was, he didn’t need these nerfs
He needed the nerf to his block infinite, but his damage really didn’t need it, especially since Reptile was just buffed to be able to do even more meterless damage midscreen than Homelander did pre-patch.
deserved nerf honestly
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Bahaha, now homelander is no threat, how ever his zoning is still a threat though.
He is still a threat if he’s played smart. If you’re just throwing out random lasers and dashes, then you’re losing guaranteed