KTM Freeride E-XC Rear Brake Pedal Kit (How To & More)
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- KTM Freeride E-XC Rear Brake Pedal Kit Parts list. These are all the parts I used to install my rear brake brake pedal kit on my Freeride E-XC using all quality Original OEM KTM parts from a 2016 Freeride 250R.
The brake pedal kit install is fairly straight forward for a proficient mechanic. You will need to come up with a return spring bracket solution. This is very simple and could be done a number of ways. You may not technically need the return spring, but it’s a good idea, especially since the Formula master cylinder is not as quality as the Brembo units and a little stickier.
Consider shopping your local dealer. The prices may be as good or better if you’re a good regular customer and you wont have to pay shipping!
Quantity, Description, Estimated Price:
x1 - KTM, BRAKE HOSE REAR L=638MM, part no: 72513071000 - USD $79.82
x2 - KTM, O-RING 8,00X1,00 FORMULA, part no: 0770080019 - USD $0.98
x1 - KTM, FOOT BRAKE CYL. REAR CPL. D=12, part no: 4701306030001S - USD $116.52
x1 - KTM, FOOT BRAKE LEVER CPL. 12, part no: 72013050044 - USD $68.41
x1 - KTM, NUT FOOT BRAKE LEVER SW19 ''12, part no: 72013053000 - USD $18.60
x1 - KTM, o-ring 18.00x2.00 NBR70, part no: 0770180020 - USD $0.98
x1 - KTM, O-RING 12,5X1,5 NBR, part no: 0770125015 - USD $0.98
x1 - KTM, HH collar screw M6x20 TX30, part no: 0025060206S - USD $1.59
x1 - KTM, SWIVEL HEAD KA6 03, part no: 54813055000 - USD $23.78
x1 - KTM, hex nut DIN 934 M6, part no: 0934060003 - USD $0.79
x1 - KTM, PUSH ROD, part no: 46213056000 - USD $7.38
x1 - KTM, RETURN SPRING FOR BRAKE LEVER, part no: 54603062100 - USD $3.84
x1 - KTM, SUP. PLATE BRAKECYL. REAR 12, part no: 72013065000 - USD $13.11
x1 - KTM, SHCS M10x30 TX45, part no: 0035100309S - USD $4.70
x2 - KTM, HH collar screw M6x12 TX30, part no: 0025060126 - USD $1.40
x1 - KTM, SPECIAL SCREW M6X13 WS=8 10.9, part no: 59009062013 - USD $0.73
Subtotal - USD $346
You will need to use your banjo bolt from the hand brake master cylinder unless you want to purchase another one. You will also need to purchase a bottle of DOT 4 or 5.1 brake fluid. The orings on the banjos are easily damaged.
Use gloves (and possibly glasses) when handling brake fluid. Keep a water source close for contact with skin and eyes. Brake fluid is very caustic. Rinse anything thats exposed to the brake fluid. It can eat paint etc...
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You can cobble together a cheaper solution to get this built. I purchased a used master cylinder on ebay which with the rebuild, cost about $75 instead of about $150 retail.
The Freeride master cylinder is from any Freeride Gas model 2014-20 or 65SX 2016-20. There were some more avail on ebay when I looked. Many fast mini racers upgrade the brakes. You could also gamble on ordering a Chinese master cylinder, but I DESPISE most Chinese parts and wouldn’t trust my brakes to Chinese produced junk. If it doesn’t fit, you just wasted your money.
There are also aftermarket brake lines avail for the Freeride gas models. These may be a good option as they are “upgrade” steel lines. Just make sure they have 8mm fittings for the Formula brakes. The Banjos/master cylinder/calipers are 8mm fittings. Standard KTM Brembo stuff is 10mm and won’t fit. The 4-stoke line appears to be longer, but I imagine it still works, but I do not know. The 250R line is 638mm.
When the brake pedal was on backorder for 3 months because of COVID, I was going to try and cobble on a KTM big bike lever. We couldn’t find my friend’s take-off in his garage. If you have a friend who’s upgraded his brake lever (or downgraded to Chinese garbage bling) see if you can have or buy his old stock lever for cheap to try 🤣 It likely wont fit without some heavy modification.
You can also spend even more money and convert the rear Formula brake caliper to a Brembo caliper by purchasing a new rear brake carrier. I believe Nihilo and maybe MotoMaster make them for the 85SX which is the same as the Freeride. They may require a rotor purchase as well. You could then order Brembo master cylinder, calipers, a brake line and 10mm banjo bolts. If you are a heavy rear brake user, it may be worth investing. Personally I’ve never had the stock brakes fade, even grabbing as hard as I could from wide open for 20min motos on the motocross track. If you have crappy bike maint maybe upgrade.
You could also buy Chinese knock off Brembo master cylinders and calipers if you dare! I do not recommend this at all, but it is an option. Chinese parts are dangerous a lot of the time! They practice dishonest intellectual property theft, are usually made with very poor tolerances, poor materials and universal generic fits that require modification. Chinese care nothing about quality, because they cannot be sued when their garbage parts fail and injure or kill you. If you don’t value your life, buy Chinese parts.
Running out of space here. Please ask questions you may have in the comments. - Sport
A tuber that actually responds to comments,SUBBED😎👍
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Super vidéo I will do the same on my 2021 :)
Wow man that turned out VERY NICE thanks for sharing i enjoyed the video as usual 🤙 👍😁
Ross G seems to work good. I’m excited to try it in the dirt.
@@JohnHowerton137 yeah well i always say to people, you get out what you put in. And you put alot in so its looking good🤙👍
great video
Looks clean! Thanks for sharing John. Brake kit would be ideal, too bad theres no such ....
No option to install one from the factory. The hand brake is actually really cool but it messes with me when I switch back to the big bike. I ride a scooter and bicycle with hand brakes all the time, but my brain goes back to muscle memory when I’m on a “motorcycle.”
It’s a great bike, but won’t replace a gas bike in wide open spaces. It’s fantastic in slow moving or tight spaces. If you have a giant backyard or very tight gnarly trails and only cover about 30km a day, it’s a great bike. I have lots of videos (a playlist) where you can see the kinds of places I ride it. I expected some shortcomings the bike would have when I purchased it. It’s been probably the most fun bike purchase of my life. Realistically weigh it’s strengths and weaknesses and you will purchase in the right frame of mind and love it!
@@JohnHowerton137 Thanks John. This is my concern, too, since I have zx6r and other bikes and planning this for offroading 2021 season. Really great to hear! Thanks again
@@ninja1970fin it’s totally fine if you’re trail riding. It’s the faster XC/MX stuff where it get’s me. Wasn’t really a problem when it was my primary off-road bike for a few months. Get back on the gas bike and I’d tap the clutch (Freeride’s brake) in the air, then I’d get back on the Freeride and stab my foot at an imaginary pedal 🤦♂️ WTF is up with that? 🤷🏼♂️🤣
Hi John, checked from KTM and indeed theres no such brake kit in the plans. Neither an upgrade kit for the shocks (need to buy parts separately). Their reasoning is that this is not an MX bike. Well I understand that but still ...
@@ninja1970fin well, I have plenty of videos for you. Suspension video coming soon 😋
Nice modificatins, look good.
May expand on this in the coming weeks if I get bored enough from not riding 🤣
Hey love all your videos !
What style of those pegs are ment to fit on the e-xc?
I like the fastway brand you got
Thx !
They are EVO III. They don't make them anymore, but they turn up on eBay sometime. I might be putting two pair up for sale on there. I changed my riding style at the foot and they don't work the way I want them to anymore. I loved them for a long time though. Really tough.
@@JohnHowerton137 thx John appreciate the detailed response 👍
I also had trouble bleeding Formula brakes, to be honest that's the nr1 thing I hate on this bike. I also had to rebuild front as it faded out in trafic...
I had exact question about doubble brake on rear, i think good example and a lot of experience is in stunt bikes - they aimply have doubble everything.
I ride more than a year, and I got uaed to the handlebar rear brake, it actually saved me many times in looping a wheelie, while with regular foot brake I would have crashed.
This rear master cylinder has a little pedal pressure delay when bleeding. Once I noticed it it bled fine. I may not have even needed to rebuild it in hindsight. The main problem with this experiment was every time I tried something new I had re-bleed the air out of two long brake lines. Doing that manually takes a while. I went through two full bottles of fluid.
If I had any time and a place to work I’d be cranking out videos about this stuff like crazy. I enjoy getting the info out there. Unfortunately every video is pretty much a total pain in the ass to make. Mostly because I’m nearly always in a rush and have constant interruptions.
I like the hand brake. I have to have the foot brake. Too much jumping around between bikes. As soon as I have any time I’ll probably set up a double brake. As of right now who knows when that’ll be! I have a backlog of videos of at least six months that I want to make. This stupid f-ing virus is doubling down on the pain in the assness of everything and has delayed them all. Anything I order is on backorder, lost in the mail, broken by the mail, not allowed to be shipped, on and on and on.
@@JohnHowerton137 It is not as bad n Europe, I still get my bike parts pretty fast, no matter where I order them from. And I know the feeling about making videos, I have maybe 200gb of raw and untouched footage, and life goes to fast to make them into videos sometimes :}
@@Roadified some of the parts on these things are still “Euro Only” so its a pain to get once in a while. Also not a ton of parts for Freerides (all models) at US distribution centers because they aren’t a common US model. Then Rona caused manufacturing issues, so backorders have been long on lots of stuff (not just OEM KTM). Took like 3 months for a set of fork guards 🤣
Did you try a one way valve in the hose line between hand and foot brake? It should prevent the pressure and by this squirting of the hand brake fluid reservoir
W. S. No, but not sure it works that way anyway, because once the fluid is down, when the brake is released it needs to be able to go back up. Same idea behind why it hobby horses. Fluid moves in both directions.
@@JohnHowerton137 You are right. So you had to place the one way valve in the line between hand brake pump und and hand brake fluid reservoir - not possible - and to remove the reservoir on the foot brake pump. Forget it - too much!
W. S. There is always the option to add another rear brake. One of my followers just sent me pictures of his. I'd like a little more compact solutions, so I'm looking into a solution that maybe is scaleable for others to adapt. Stay tuned. Either way I'm going to have more on this topic to come 🤙
I have a LH rear brake on my 2019 300 XCW its from Rekluse and the hydraukic hose from the handlebar master cyl. fits on the top of the frame mounted master cyl. I don't know if they will sell the adapter alone as you don't need another master cyl. You would still need to get a fabricated brake line from the handlebars to the frame mounted master cyl.
The master cylinder down below is different than yours, but still might be worth looking into 🤙
@@JohnHowerton137 I don't own a freeride so I don't know if a brembo master cyl. will bolt up to the bracket at the frame. I'll do a little more research .
@@larrybeaufait5211 the Freeride uses the 85SX brake system made by Formula. The parts are all smaller scale so nothing typically mix-matches with the big bikes. They do make a “Big Bike” brake kit, but it’s quite a few clams.
How do the supermoto guys do it? The ones that do all the cool tricks seem to often have a left handed brake lever and a rear brake foot pedal that both work together. Are they special levers that closes a valve on the left handed brake when it's not used so it wont back up into the reservoir when you use the foot pedal? I'm just asking as I don't know myself.
Christian Williams not 100% sure on that. There are gadgets that are cable actuated from the rear master cylinder and there are LHRBs from Clake and Rekluse that use their own master cylinders so maybe there is some trick they use. I have a friend with LHRB and he does it hobby horse style. Some add an additional caliper.
I know it's possible, but I was trying/hoping to do it with just stock parts and nothing "extra."
I'm cooking up a few ideas. If I get bored enough in the next 6 weeks during healing... some might get implemented 🤣
google "handbrake junction valve". You have to replace the reservoir of the footbrake with a junction valve where you hook up the handbrake line. It is impossible to run 1 caliper with 2 brakefluid reservoirs.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
Hello John, I ordered all the parts on your list to add a rear foot brake to my 2022 KTM Freeride E-XC. I also ordered the new brake line that Marc mentioned was needed for the 2022 model. Can you tell me if the banjo bolts needed are 7mm or 10mm? Is that the diameter or the length? I'm assuming diameter.
They are the smaller size. Pretty sure they're M8 1.0. Not sure the length.
I had a parts customer 20 years ago named Mike Calvert.
Ho it's 7month back!! How it is today? Did you use the Rear brake? Did you find a better system?
Thanks :)
Still the same as it is in the video. Haven't had time to set it up differently if I wanted. I do miss the hand brake (it's very clutch like for an ebike), but won't give up the foot for it.
I lost my plunger on my back brake the screw came out and the whole thing fell out I ordered the new part but does that plunger just slide right into the rubber boot or does it connect to some thing inside the boot?
Just slides into the rubber boot. It's basically just a smooth bolt that pushes up on a plunger in the master cylinder. Make sure you always add a little threadlocker to bolts holding on critical control parts 👍
@@JohnHowerton137 that’s what I thought and yes I will be putting thread locker on this one this time lol. Thank you 👍
Welcome! Rubber side down my friend 🤙
Hey john, really needing your insight right now. Im trying to see if i can install standard brembo brakes from 125's-450's with a nihilo concepts calliper hanger. Im looking at my bike and i dont think it will work, the master cylinder needs some kind of bracket.
You you have the hanger that I listed in the description?
@@JohnHowerton137 Thats were im currently at, im trying to understand if that bracket will also work with a brembo cylinder.
@@JohnHowerton137 And will the brembo hardware work where the formula hardware works? I guess i just gotta send it.
@@happygnome4620 maybe I can try and measure the master cylinder boot pattern on the Freeride Formula and my EXC Brembo tomorrow. Need to find the parts in storage since mine is currently back to hand brake.
@@JohnHowerton137 if you would be able to measure, I’d be extremely appreciative. Your content has helped me and my Freeride so much⚡️
You need a shuttle valve for hydraulics thats how many People do it in drifting on the rear so u can use hydraulic hanbrake with The rear calipers, but it will allways stiffen the brake lever you dont pull / sep on but it works well 👍
Looking into it to see if I can find one the right diameter and pitch 👍
Hope you can find the right one ☺️👍
Hi John,
Say, I just installed a rear foot brake on my 2022 E-XC. It's a little different than your setup because the 2022 rear caliper banjo hole points forward and not to the right like yours. That means the pre-fab KTM brake line you mention has the banjos at the wrong angle. I had to use a 30" line with 90 deg fittings on each end.
But my problem is getting the fluid into the line and bleeding it. I do know how to bleed lines (at least, I thought I did), but I'm stuggling with this set up. Can you give me a few pointers on getting the fluid into the line and caliper, then bleeding the system?
Thanks!!
It is a little tricky, so it’s not just you. You can take off the line (for ease) from the master cylinder, open the bleeder at the caliper and push fluid up the line with a syringe to get the majority bled out. Reconnect the line to the master and push more through.
The tricky part is the master cylinder. It’s been a little too long to remember exactly, but it has a sweet spot when pumping the pedal to get it to move in more fluid. It was either small pumps, giant complete pumps, or really slow pumps. Sorry I can’t remember exactly. One of those three should move much larger amounts of fluid than the other. I’ve bled a lot of brake systems and never dealt with one that was so sensitive/finicky, but once you figure it out the trick, it’s easy.
@@JohnHowerton137 Thanks John. I did manage to get them squared away with long, slow pumps on the pedal. Now if I can only rig up an imaginary shifter to jab at as I go into a corner....
@@marcwarburton7007 yeah, takes a few rides to stop pulling in the (now missing) brake and stab at an imaginary shifter to take off 🤣
Hello Marc, I just ordered all the parts for my 2022. Do you have a part number and place of purchase for the correct 2022 brake line? Thanks Mie
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@@mikecalvert456 I got mine from Summit Racing. It's a Russell Performance 656070 - Russell Competition Brake Hose Assemblies RUS-656070
Brake Line, Competition, Braided Stainless Steel, 27 in. Length, -3 AN Female, -3 AN Female, Each
(Mfr. #: 656070)
Thanks! Wanna buy this bike some day but in Switzerland it costs 13k without the Charging cable.. (payd 12k for my brand new 701)
Do you have the battery lease program in Switzerland?
My great grandparents immigrated from Altdorf.
@@JohnHowerton137 I don't know for sure, but I think so.. I have to speak to my local dealer when I have some money together😁
Is Altdorf in Switzerland? Thats an interesting history of your family then🤠
Hey, what do you think about zero fx or fxs?
They look ok for run of the mill dual sporting like a KLX250 or something. They don’t look like they would handle what I would throw at them and look expensive to to fix if I did.
@@JohnHowerton137 True, I like practicing wheelies, and if you crash with street legal bike, it is a lot of parts to replace. It is easy with KTM, since there are a lot of new or old parts from various places, especially in Europe. Regardless, maybe I will go and try Zero FXS 6.5 tomorrow (one guy sells one almost next door), to see how it feels in comparison to Freeride E-SM.
So I tried Zero FXS 6.5. Owner gets 130km of range. It is much faster in top speed and also acceleration. It's also very quiet. It feels much heavier than Freeride aslo bigger. It is scary to do quality wheelie on it (12 o clock'ish). I also like that you only need a cable and not the whole charger, since it is inside the bike. Brakes are amazing on Zero.
For my riding both bikes suits. Even if KTM is cheaper bike here, it is more prestigious, but Zero felt mkre comfortable.
@@Roadified pretty much exactly what I would expect from it. It's a commuter with the ability to go off-road. The Freeride is off-road with the ability to commute. Kind of like the difference between the 690E and the 500EXC. When picking, you just have to be honest with yourself about how you're going to use it most often to get the best experience.
@@JohnHowerton137 I just need both.... ;D I have three bikes already though, no car no house.
I used to hate how my 99 YZ250 front brake line was routed because it was dumbass designed! LOL had forgotten! Riding now in southern Maine mudd season is done. I’ve done a lot to my 2022 FREERIDE EXC over the winter and suspension is next
Speaking of next the 2024 5.5Kw FREERIDE is going to be here and there better be options for us to get the new 5.5 batteries for our model!?! Would make my FREERIDE perfect with that increase of power and range.. what have you heard?
Not sure if the new battery will work or not. My guess is the chassis changed to accommodate the bigger and heavier case.
I think the future upgrade will be better cell technology and a battery technician rebuilds them into the original case. I think that's what they're doing with the mediocre Surron batteries.
@@JohnHowerton137 It would be nice but your probably right.our KTM needs just a small tweeking of the controller for a 15-20% boost and id be happier.you can tweek electric motors a lot more then you could ever do on a gas engine.so this really is a easy job for electronic tech. 11-50 is what gearing im hapopy now with. not as fast top end but thats not what i wanted. now its a lot more snappy with quicker throttle response and now can wheelie at will whenever needed. mostly keep in power mode 3 and have nothing but a perfectly working dirt bike from day one to report ...the surron we did 72v bat and controler . completely replacing all stock electronics.this realy makes the mediocre surron mediocre to me .. night and day different motorcycles. suron is a toy and not a real MC at all. ive owend them both and is why now only MC is KTM FREERIDE. BTW i saw you broke water pump and ive come close now a few times. P3 CARBON and i have been working on replacing stock skidplate with a carbon one that has water pump guard built in. i have a hand made aluminum skidplate from dirtfirst racing thats better than stock but no pump guard.. need better way to keep intouch
@@mainyakmainer7162 very good, thanks for the follow-up. I bet that 11-50 feels good. Will it still get 38-40mph?
Dirtfirstracing can put a water pump guard on their Alum one, but the P3 one would be super cool too. I broke my leg on a heavy landing from a jump last weekend on the Freeride, so it will be months before I ride again. I might finally have some time to get Dirtfirst on the channel as a result.
I won’t be riding my Freeride for months, my Stark is supposed to be here in Oct, and I have my biggest triathlon race of the year in Nov. Sparky might be currently sitting at her new permanent home at my friends house now. I’ve had a hoot on that bike though. Good memories.
@@JohnHowerton137 wow I’m sorry to hear that about your leg 🦵!! STARK I’ve been looking at but I really need a clutch… like that on the emotion trials pro. Awesome design! And I don’t understand why they are not using a clutch? No dirt bikes are made this way so you don’t have any way of killing power to rear wheel. Not sure if you could ever compete against dirt bikes with a clutch like that on a 450 ?
I’ve been using my rear hand brake like a clutch at stop n go tight rock n root filled southern Maine single track .
I’ll see what top speed is with this gearing. My motocross gearing is 14/47 and it’s fast this way but harder to wheelie at slower speeds. Nice to have 2 complete wheel sets ready to bolt on with tires mounted. I’m super happy with my FREERIDE and hope KTM won’t forget about all of us who spent the big money on them and keep us in mind when they come out with improvements
@@JohnHowerton137 did you ever weigh your FREERIDE? Just watched video on CZcams about weight of the Varg and it was 263lbs. The Alta was 267 .
I replaced every bolt I could safely with titanium or aluminum and got rid of a lot of unnecessary parts . Got some heavy gummie tires mounted on this wheel set so I’m curious to know what bikes weight is. Now I have to weigh my bike and finally have a good idea what exactly it is ! Okay I’ve got over 44mph with the 11-50 gearing and can go faster without these gummy tires. Only really good for under 35mph these tires are.
I’m most impressed with the YAMAHA trial’s bike! Has a flywheel and a clutch you should check out latest version its sick
Make a adapter for second brake caliper ? 2 separate systems is the best i think.i got the 2017 model sinds a week or 2
Thought about it, but want to figure out a more affordable solution... and lighter. Struggling to find time lately working 50+ hours a week ☹️ Grateful to be busy now too with an account that's getting blacker as opposed to many who's are getting redder in these times 😞
@@JohnHowerton137 have you ridden the 250 or 350 freeride ? I have the freeride e xc 2017.and i have a crf450 r supermoto both bikes street legal.i like the freeride so much that i maybe trade the crf450.i hadnt ridden it for 3years and it feels like a fireblade almost its to much
No, but one of my other electric Freeride friends in some of these videos had the 250. He loved it, which is why he didn't hesitate on the Ebike. They're wicked cool. I've seen videos of Grabbo (desert racing champion) riding them.
@@JohnHowerton137 how often do u need to recharge the 12v battery?
@@Freewheelie199 the 12v charges at the same time as the main battery when you charge the bike with the main battery in it. Most of the time I charge my battery out of the bike at my house in the laundry room. Maybe once a month I charge the bike at my friends house IN the bike, so that’s about how often it I do it. Never had an issue with it dying. It’s just a little 12v like battery you’d find in a kids powerwheels or something. You can probably find one at the local hardware store if it was to die.
can we put 2 brake calipers?
If you know how to fabricate. That or a splitter would be ideal because I do love the hand brake on the ebike.
@@JohnHowerton137 because stunt biker at my country usually use 2 caliper on rear brake for hand rear brake that they use to stop when wheelie while sitting on the handlebar. But i still not try to fabricate yet because i don't have the equipment. (sorry my English not fluently)
@@BLintang yes, it would be very good to have one. I don’t have equipment either 🤷🏼♂️
Left hand brake? Use OX hydra brake system using left handbrake with footbrake...
Might fit. Doesn't look like you could make use of the stock lever/master cylinder system and it's pretty expensive (albeit quality looking).
Yeah, and why its so expensive,
Junction valve is way more cheaper and banjo bolt on it, u can still use the stock master...
@@jouseffarnold7233 it looks nice.
A valve is what I was looking into for a while. Thought I might have found one, but got distracted and never ordered.
For someone with a broken collar bone, punctured lung and peeing blood 4 weeks ago, you've been a busy bugger!! Seriously, if this what you've (lit.) hammered out w/o a garage, shop or so much as a work bench, well done sir, very well done!
No pressure, but I'll be looking forward to a solution to that single bolt pinch, top clamp of the forks. Mahalo JH
Dan Valley 115° driveway with no shade after 10am, rock walls and fences that usually block the wind 🤣 At least I have a somewhat complete basic toolbox, but my staple tools are still the KTM trail kit, a rubber mallet, small vice grip and a Dremel tool 🤣🤷♂️
The solution for that crappy single pinch is the X-Trig clamp. It's not cheap though! Serious control and bling factor if a guy has the loot to drop on it.
The drawback to having four main machines, is they keep you 4x as broke to keep them all going. Especially when you're anal about keeping their performance standards up. They are as tight, smooth and setup as they can be for the budget they have. Even if I have to Jerry rig it like my 690 case, it's Jerry rigged right! 🤣 Factory bikes compared to most island bikes 🤣
@@JohnHowerton137 haha.. i know exactly what you mean.. i was up to 5 bikes. Between insurance, maintenance & yearly registration, it was enough to push me to a "one bike only" mind set. That lasted all of 8 months.. 8 minutes really. Soooo... 1 working mule( BMW r9t..) and 1 smiles per miles bike. Again... thank you for being 1 of about 3 very reliable, honest & (..sorry brother, we as a group, can be kinda rude and ignorant commentors..)bit of lightning rod for unsolicited opinions, are a source. A knowledgeable source. And ya got the scars to prove it. When I pick up the E-xc, my learning curve will be considerably flater thanks to BCL, Electric Cycle Rider, and you. Massive Mahaloz JH!!!
Dan Valley I’m as honest as they get, almost to a fault. “Yes, those pants make you look fat.” 🤣🤦♂️ In no way does that mean I’m always correct or even have correct information, but it’s never malicious for lack of a better word. I go way out of my way to be as objective as possible about information... once again, almost to a fault. It’s part of the reason I have horrible time management skills! I’m always going down some kind of a rabbit hole for all perspectives to a problem. Motorcycles are easy, it’s the topics like politics & health I struggle with, because bias goes so deep, they are endless research projects! I’m like the most educated, uneducated guy you ever met. I’ve lived like 7 lives. It’ll probably be a book someday, or series of them. Not sure I can fit anything in 300 pages! 🤣
So I think you are saying "it's a pain in the arse?". No?
Only if you're trying to run a double brake. Just the rear with the pedal isn't really a big deal. All the parts are in the description.
Yeah I was joking. I just bought a 2021, tires, security, etc. I'll save up and do this set up soon. Having a normal foot brake is necessary IMO. Id love to see a left bar "motor power cut" lever which would give a similar effect as pulling in the clutch on a gas bike. It would stop motor regen braking effect as well as cutting power which I guess would be same as simply letting off of the throttle, but with no drag from motor braking (regen drag)
@@brianburkett7243 there're no regen brake in Mode 2 or 3, but I wouldn't hate a clutch myself either. Plenty of instances where a little extra pop would be nice, especially in a 24hp motor. That said, not having a clutch has made a world of difference in my patience, throttle control and technique, corner-speed etc..., so it's a pros and cons thing for me.
@@JohnHowerton137 gotcha, yeah mostly the lack of a foot rear brake is my issue so far. I guess if I could think of it the same as mountain biking...bat that is reversed so Id end up hitting the front brake too hard and crash or worse go over the bars. Maybe a reversed lever situation would work but again not as easy as it sounds. Required longer brake hoses etc... I think I'll go with your solution soon.