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a lot of these small .22LR pistols are sensitive to using certain ammo.
The "locked" part of "cocked and locked" MEANS... the manual safety is turned on. If the gun has no manual safety, it cannot be carried, "cocked and locked"!
My glock says your full of 💩
Without a manual safety it will be cocked and bang.
trigger covered holster ...
@@rodneymoore7270 The type of holster has nothing to do with it.
@@rodneymoore7270 Yeah he isn't saying it is unsafe or whatever. He is just saying literally without a manual safety (especially a thumb safety that fits into a notch on the slide and literally "locks" the gun) you can't carry cocked and locked. You are just carrying cocked.
99% sure you are using the wrong ammo. If you think it is a problem with the gun, call Ruger. They have excellent customer support.
It looks like a bare lead projectile or Winchester M22, which has a black copper plating. It may make a difference if you try high-quality copper washed or plated rounds if you're shooting lead. Then again, it may not! Every gun has it's likes and dislikes.
If it's M22, get something else. M22 is infamous for it's unreliability.
I have followed your gun and bible content for many years. I just now noticed that you pin the trigger after every shot. Not a big deal if you only shoot targets. It's a bad habit to have if you carry other guns defensively.
I thank God for your improving health. Keep it up.
@@brianshuler6951worst customer support I ever have had from a firearms company was Ruger. The SP101 I bought had so many issues (non of which Ruger agreed to fix), it took me almost $300 to fix on my own; had to replace the entire trigger spring assembly (I was warped, BENT inside the housing….). Could go on, but it is still the worst quality control on any firearm I’ve ever had. Sent it back to them, they shipped it back and said they could not find the issues I had. It was my third Ruger revolver and have not bought another since.
@@brianshuler6951what I never understood is why the 22 lr bullets have the ridges on the bullet. Those ridges hang up on the chamber on feed ramp. 22 mags have a smooth bullet.
@roscoeshepard In my experience, the vast majority of failures to feed in .22 rimfire pistols are bad magazines, dirty guns, and weak grip/limp wristing. The bullet design has been refined over the years, but it is much the same as since I first started shooting, decades ago. I'm pretty sure if the bullet design was an issue, every .22 ammo maker in the world would correct the problem.
yawn
I bought one for my wife. CCI minimags and velocitors run flawlessly in this gun.
Blazer/CCI : 👍
I share your sentiment. A family members firearm runs with quality ammo...
Heavier hammer spring, weaker firing pin spring, and stiffer coil spring straightened mine right out. Polished feed ramp and chamber just for good measure, even eats Winchester white box now.
**using a 22LR for self-defense is stupid and reckless.
**And one man said that more people were killed with a 22 LR than any other weapon, he was wrong more people are assassinated with a 22 LR.
**But if you think of 22 LR is going to stop some meth head or psycho unless you dump like a dozen rounds in them.
**Average hit ratio of good trained police officers are about 50% which means 50% of your ammo has a chance of hitting some innocent bystander which is not psycho and which is not meth head, or adrenaline charged or some other mitigating factor, and it does have a chance of killing them.
**Name me one police organization that issues a 22 LR pistol for self-defense. In spite of the cost savings that that would be, and bureaucrats are all about cost saving.
**Name me one military unit that uses it when it's gun fight time, (yes they may use the silent suppress 22 LR for a sentry removal) but when it's gunfight time it's back to the serious weapons.
@@kirkchartier7141 These guns are made for deep concealment, easy to rack, and no recoil. My mother in her early 60s can no longer rack even a 380 very well, so she carries this and practices with it often and it's fun for her. After I worked out all the kinks it's been reliable, you wouldn't want to mess with her inside 30 yards.
My wife has a TX 22 and that gun is. Awesome.
Does it reliably shoot any ammo?
@@rang123yea5 yes, it is arguably the most reliable semi auto
It shoots anything except it wouldn't shoot federal champions that I bought that were factory seconds but those federal won't run in my marlin 60 either only good for my revolver and single shots so yeah it eats any thing that's not defective to begin with. But it absolutely loves CCI velociters
I have the same experience with a TX 22
@@russellhorner4950 I heard it also didn't like Remington's "Bucket O Bullet's" but that is low quality ammo also.
I manage a gun store. By far and away, the Ruger LCP II is our best-selling gun (not handgun...GUN).
We have had ZERO complaints about them. But we DO tend to recommend decent ammo with it too
Do you have any more of them? I can't find one to save my life!!
@charlesbowers8112 we have about 5 in stock. But yeah, they have been SUPER difficult to order lately (and we look everyday, because it IS our #1 seller). Idk what's going on
You can't carry "cocked and locked" with no safety . The safety is the "locked" part with no safety you must carry a gun in a holster if you have a round in the chamber
I bought 4 of those at the same time for my defense classes and all of them have run flawlessly since the day I bought them, Ruger makes superior Firearms ❤
Minimum caliber on ccw permit in my area is .380 auto.. 🤪
I've been through enough rimfire pistols that I'll never trust my life to it.
Only rimfire id trust is a revolver(22mag) for cc
Ya! Me too.
Robert
@@robertscotti7970 should have specified semi-auto.
100% top comment you may save someone who thinks this is going to work in a gunfight. Nah
@@robertscotti7970 I own dozens of revolvers and semi-auto handguns in .22 and .22WMR. I don't recall ever having a malfunction with .22WMR, but failures with .22LR are just as frequent whether revolver or semi-auto. I will say that my .22LR rifles rarely experience failures, which I attribute to larger and stronger springs.
Your eject pattern shows bad ammo. Good on some, others barely ejecting. Watch your eject pattern on this video. Try agula or cci.
Go with cci... I've been having problems with aguila 22lr primers not igniting in all my 22lr revolvers. After a lot of research I'm switching to cci🤔
This gun is mostly using the blowback to eject the case. Sometimes they eject weird
My first thought is try changing ammo? I have a Phoenix arms .22 that can tell cci from anything else.
I have one of those little 22lrs as well, and I have noticed that it occasionally has light strikes regardless of ammo. It's a neat little, strange gun, and it's amusing, but I would never carry it for self defense.
I had 1 many years ago with both barrels .
It started getting quirky so i sent it back.
The repaced the whole original barrel.
It worked reliably again but because of the bad experiances prior i never carried it.
Was only a range /plinker .
I eventually traded it in.
No trust in it in my mind.
It had to go
I agree totally!
The HP-22 is a great inexpensive pistol. However, there's a reason that Phoenix recommends shooting standard velocity over any high velocity .22 ammo. Any hot .22 has a tendency to crack the Zamac receiver. I called Phoenix and the production foreman explained that to me. There's also a correct and incorrect way to mount the recoil spring-John in Texas
I have one of those that shoots almost everything. I have the Walther that for some reason prefers Winchester. My ISSC and Sig both prefer CCI, and are OK with Federal. Remington is a no-go in all.
Using trash ammo and complaining about a 22lr pocket handgun not running properly is pretty comical. Use some minimags or some other high quality defense ammo and see how it runs. 22lr handguns are notoriously finicky and only tend to work well with particularly high quality, high velocity ammo. Yes, some 22lr handguns are less finicky, like my tx22 which is full size and will eat almost anything, but that's the exception and not the rule. After running about 200 rounds of CCI minimags or something similar, you'll have a much better understanding of whether it's the gun or ammo that's the main problem.
Exactly right about ammo and the TX22
I had the same issues with lcp ii in .22 and tried multiple different mags and various brands of high quality ammo with same feed issues.
Rugers were very well known fore eating up anything you put in them. Now they sell junk.
My Ruger MK1 and Smith and Wesson Victory are both like fat kids. They’ll eat whatever you feed em!!
@timburton9514 yea, those are larger frame guns too, which typically aren't as finicky as mouse guns.
Use copper-jacketed ammo when firing a semi-auto .22lr gun. You'll still get malfunctions, but far less
I had similar problems with feed in a tiny pocket gun that i bought for my elderly mother. I took emery paper to the barrel and slide, added oil, and use Mini-mags. No more feed problems.
Any .22LR semi-auto is iffy, being a rimfire cartridge.
Let me change your mind....
My worst .22lr pistol is a Walther P22. I bought one for me and one for my daughter many years ago.
My daughter's pistol had just about every possible malfunction you could think of and some that are pretty rare:
Failure to feed.
Failure to extract.
The magazine dropping out upon firing the gun (yes, it was fully seated).
Upon firing the safety would move out of the fire position.
It was sent back for repair three times.
S&W changed some parts out the first time and blamed the ammunition suggesting that we use CCI ammo.
The second time they change some more parts out (by the third time about the only parts the hadn't change out was the frame , slide, and barrel.
The third time I sent the gun in along with a spread sheet where I had fired about 8 different brands of ammunition.
I labeled the rows on the spread sheet 1-50 and indicated the malfunction on each row.
Every brand of ammunition resulted in multiple malfunctions per 50 rounds fired.
Lord that almost sounds like a feat of modern engineering. A gun designed not to function properly in any prescribed way '?'
@@steelgila I agree, especially .22lr.
I find that hollow point ammunition and 40gr round nose lead ammunition are the most common to have failures to feed. Also watch out for old lead .22lr ammunition as sometimes lead oxide will form on the bullet making it difficult to feed into the chamber.
But the problems that we had with the Walther P22 were design problems. For example, the magazines that came with the early Walthers had "ears" on the magazines that engaged with the magazine catch. But these ears were too small on the early magazines. There was just not enough "meat" on the ears to engage the magazine catch and the magazines would drop upon recoil. The magazine would often have to be reseated and the slide racked to chamber a round.
The safety would sometimes move from the "fire" position to a position between fire and safe.
I've had the opposite experience with both P-22s I own. One regular, one target version. Feeds CCI, Remington, Winchester and Aquila without flaw, and both are Walther, not S&W production guns, which I suspect is why you had problems. I purchased the regular in 2013 and the target in 2014. I've rarely had any FTF or FTE with either gun. I prefer the target for its accuracy and have used it in our local competitions, and placed well enough in ranking.
Is it as accurate as my early 1930s High Standard Model B? No, but my Model B is very Ammo Sensitive, and in my neck of the woods, Standard Velocity .22 LR is hard to come by. It does not perform well with High Velocity .22 LR at all, consistently failing to return to battery.
Like I mentioned, I suspect your problems may have been due to "Who" was producing the pistol. That S&Ws Walther production/distribution was marred by production and quality control issues even worse than the later stages of Interarms US production. Main reason Walther actually built a US Production Facility was S&Ws hit & miss reputation.
If you get a chance to shoot the US Walther production gun, I'd encourage you to try it. I strongly believe there's a Night and Day difference between the guns.
My only real complaint, is the Target version, is a pain in the butt to clean. 😮
I had the same problem with a Walther CCP M2 in 9mm. What I later discovered is not every gun that says “Walther” is a true Walther. The ones made in Cologne, Germany as opposed to the ones made in Ulm, Germany or Walther USA in Fort Smith, Arkansas, are made by Walther’s parent company Umarex which is known for their air soft guns. They just slap the Walther name on some of their guns like the P22 and CCP because they can. The REAL Walthers (PDP, PPQ, P99, PPS, PPK in .380) are great.
I have a Walther-made Walther P22 - even with cheap sh!t ammunition, never failed to load, fire and eject. Nothing has fallen off, and it came with a suppressor that's pretty good, too. Excellent little gun, so it is.
I can't speak to the LCPII, but I own an SR9c, an LC9s, a MAX-9 and an AR-556. Never had a problem with any of them. They eat any kind of ammo I feed through them with no problem.
Ruger has a lifetime warranty. They will make it right.
With some of the other Rugers I have had they got better as they broke in.
No, Ruger does not have a lifetime warranty. Per Ruger : Unfortunately, the law in this area is complicated and varies widely. Rather than provide a written "lifetime warranty" followed by a lengthy disclaimer (which is what many manufacturers do), Ruger has elected not to provide a written warranty.
Regardless, we sincerely value our customers and work hard to treat them fairly. If you have a problem with your Ruger® firearm, reach out to our excellent customer service representatives and I believe you will be very pleased with the result. If not, let me know.
There is none better than the older Ruger Firearms. the newer stuff not so much. pretty much the same as all U.S. makers now. The quality has just gone out the window.
To bad Ruger is famous for that warranty... 🙄
I have a Jimenez Arms JA22. When it was new it would barley shoot. But after approx. 500 rounds and polishing the feed ramp it won't stop working now. I think break-in for 22LR pistols is a real thing. With real variations per round the gun has to be as smooth and easy ti cycle as possible. Break-in smooths it out.
I have one of those, and consider it a paper weight. Mistake that I can't sell because I'd feel like a scammer.
Remember why Browning invented the .25 ACP.
Seriously why are there not more guns in 25? It’s center fired so the reliability is going to be better I have heard they can be a bit under powered and won’t wrack the slide properly but it’s gotta be better then a rim fire and they are some pretty small guns. That always made me wonder it’s gotta be more reliable then 22 it’s gotta have slightly better ballistics?
Colt developed the .25 ACP it's in the name Automatic Colt Pistol
@@Joe-ie8vk ...the problem HE was having HERE....was in no way related to the primer efficiency of 22LR. Something is wrong with his gun or mag, not the caliber/or being rimfire. I have quite a few 22LR handguns I would trust with my life with as to reliability......
@@snotshovelinfection305He might have been referring to John Moses Browning.
I bought a new 8:01 H&R nine shot revolver in 22lr decades ago at an auction for $50. Best deal I ever made. Speed loaders were made for it and I bought several. I have the Beretta 25ACP that my father bought in Italy in the early 50's when he was in the USN. I have bought extra magazines for it. Keep Prepping my friends.
I agree with most folks change ammo. I run cci to start with until the gun breaks in. It's a little hotter I think. Then go to bargain stuff after a few hundred rounds.
Possible ammo related? I know in general 22LR guns are ammo finicky. I’ve a Ruger 10/22 it only likes certain ammo. Try CCI mini-mag or Stinger. Also, could be magazine related?
Its short stroking due to the fact it's new and tight, and your using standard ammo. Break it in with performance (hot) ammo. After 2 or 300 rds it will shoot anything. Did you clean it and oil it before you fired it?
My Kimber "Night Patrol" is a worse lemon than that one. Won't feed hardball right out of the box.Kimber won't even answer letters.
I’ve had overall bad luck with my LCP as well. Same one that you have. I even paid and had the springs, etc. upgraded as that was recommended as a fix. It didn’t really do much. It is very picky with ammunition as well.
Main spring maybe? And polish feed ramp.
Maybe it comes down to ammo differences or luck in manufacturing, but I've had nothing but fun and good experiences with my friend's same model.
Cci velocitors
I have a Ruger LCP Max. I thought it would be a perfect pocket gun and it does carry well. But it is one of the most unreliable guns I have ever owned.
I had the same experience but sent it back to Ruger and they replaced the extractor and barrel on mine and ran 30 through it without issue. I will be trying this again because with 10 rounds it would be the perfect pocket pistol if it works reliably.
@PorfirioCastro I have been wondering if I need to do the same. Because regardless of cleaning and changing ammunition brands, it still hangs up.
Had mine a year or so with no malfunctions , i only run high end hollow points , havent tried fmj . ive run about 300 rounds so far , ruger will repair or replace if its defective .
Mines flawlessly reliable. The problem for me is quickly squeezing my finger inside the trigger guard.
Ditto here. Switched to Kimber micro series and zero malfunctions after 5K+ rounds thru it. Check them out SF🇺🇸
I had a Colt Mustang .380. Never could it to feed right, do I traded it to a local gunsmith as half of the cost of a Sphinx .380. (Disclaimer, this is used in Europe as a backup for several police forces; but, it’s cut from a block of Stainless Steel, can hold 12 rounds, so it’s *much* heavier than an average .380.
*That* one never fails or misfeeds unless the ammo is really old.
For pocket-carry I have a S&W .357 “Chief Special,” with a Scandium frame and Titanium cylinder. Just 5 shots, but it weighs so little I need to check my pockets before I leave home.
(Absolutely DON’T want that to fall out of my pocket when I reach for my keys at the local Safeway here in CA!) 😂😂
PS If you fire.357 rounds through this it REALLY stings! 😖😖😖
Bill Ruger would have never let that happen.
I've known 22 type firearms that were fussy about ammo brands., It's only fair to test various brands of ammo.
Yeah, But Those Days Are Over! My old 185 Series Mini 14 has Never failed in any way. Most of the newer Mini's that are said to be better are always on there way back to Ruger for some kind of repair. A good gun is the one that works!
Bill Ruger was a massive Fudd. Ruger innovation was completely stifled until Bill passed. Subsequently, Ruget has been much more innovative and completely changed the concealed carry market with the LCP and the LCR. You can argue that the LCP was a copy of the Keltec but Ruger made the darm things correctly and dependable and at only 10.5 ounces that was something. The LCR completely re-imagined the J-frame and the trigger is so light and smooth it's like a Custom Shop S&W trigger. Bill was NOT a friend of the 2A. Let's not forget all his shortcommings and only remember the good, like the single action Rugers and the old Security Six, etc... Bill was a mixed bag at best.
Gun industry inovation in the 21st centurty = another variation of a glock.
mine did the same thing. slide release lever spring fixed it up. my slide release was very lite actually wobbly when at rest new spring and now theres tension on it at all times and no more premature hold open.
Never trust your life to a rimfire. EVER. They run dirty and aren't reliable enough.
Good point. However, revolver will run every time.
There is one brand of rimfire that I have never had failure to fire in thousands of rounds. CCI is one of the best! Stingers, Mini Mag and Velociters have been totally reliable.
I won’t say you’re wrong because I’d most likely never carry a 22 also but have you ever heard the saying, a 22 in your pocket is better than a 45 on your nightstand. 😉
@onionhead5780 Yep. But with the very low cost of modern carry pistols, there's no reason to use a rimfire unless it's a training version of your primary for low-cost practice. The cost difference between the .380 and .22 LR versions of the Ruger LCP is about 20 bucks. I know recoil is an issue for some folks with arthritis, but reliability with today's .22 with quality control oversight being cut is likely to just get get you killed.
If a gun won’t cycle reliably on CCI Std Velocity, I wouldn’t carry it at all for defense. That’s not to say higher velocity loads don’t add reliability. But the true test is reliable cycling on 22LR Std velocity loads.
I remember year’s ago I purchased an old High Standard Model B from a friend. It was well used and a bargain. I made sure it was cleaned before I took it to a private range and had problems similar to yours. The range master took it back to his bench then ran a couple of magazines with no problems. He said it needed to be lubed and he used Lubriplate, and told me to not use oil. I have never had problems since.
@@gilbertdelgado6703 Lubriplate is a blended oil and several types, grades/weights are available. Lubriplate is high grade US produced Oil and Grease manufacturer, and their products are very use specific. #1 is a 10W Oil Blend, #2 20W, #3 is 30W, and there are low/high temp and various other blend products. So it depends on which product # he used.
My 1930s Model B won't run High Velocity ammo. It runs Standard Velocity like a raped ape, but put High Velocity in it and it has all sorts of issues, but a failure to return to battery is the most common (almost every shot).
My sister in law had the same problems with hers. We shot lots of different ammo even some CCI stingers. A good gun to stay away from.
I have one and they don’t like the steel casing Cci mini mag or Cci velocities seems to work very well
I agree, my Ruger SR22 would also fail to feed multiple times per magazine, with any brand of ammo. Returned it to Ruger, they re-barrelled it, and other work was done,when I got it back, it failed to feed after 5 shots with CCI mini-mags. I traded it for a 343 S&W
22lr is not dependable enough to be a gun I'd be putting my life on. I know when it's working it'll put a thing down. But that's the problem. It's gotta run. And it's not even through the break in time 🤷🏼♂️
It's also not enough gun. It's better than a rock, but 22lr is NOT a wise defensive choice.
@@xxxlonewolf49 yup. I carry my little 380 frequently. But never in my life would I be caught with a 22 lr in my holster. It's not happening. 🤷🏼♂️ IDC if it's mini mouse gun sized lol
@mybuickskill6979 I did carry one 22, when jogging, when i had nothing else...till I got a pocket 9.
380 isn't enough of a round, costs too much vs 9, the pistols are effectively the same size & weight, and 9 Is just better effects on target.
@@xxxlonewolf49 I wear my 380 bicycling. It's tiny, single stack. More aero, and it pokes holes. 🤷🏼♂️🤣🤣 And as of yet. Not a single issue with reliability. That's really all I need. I mostly worry about two legged varmints, as the four legged ones are slower than my bike 🤷🏼♂️🤣🤣
@@mybuickskill6979 It's better than a 22lr or a rock, but a 9mm is objectively a better round & system
My father taught me young, quality, not quantity. I have never had a 22 misfire never.
I'm with you on the manual safety. I will not buy a gun with out one.
bougt my first hand gun at a gun show in 1985 for $40.00 and it's a ruger standard model from 1960.
it still runs perfect, ALWAYS, with CCI minimag ammo. second choice is winchester super-x, then remington thunderbolt.
This is why I don't look to GFG for gun reviews. The gun jams with crap ammo using only one magazine... so Ruger owes you an apology?!
Mine works great, but I don't feed it crap ammo. You said you carried an LCP II .22 for your CCW and only after carrying it for weeks or months, you fired it for the first time? That's not what a serious pistolero does at all. All you've proven this time is that it doesn't like crap ammo or maybe not that particular magazine... but you didn't ferret out the issue, so you blame the gun.
Unfortunately people look to all the shills for gun reviews and all they get is a gun advertisement...
Exactly. I agree 100 percent. Also hate how he click baits every month with: "This is the most returned gun in gun shops now!" Or " This is the most sought after gun in gun shops now!" and then proceeds his hardest to coax the woman into filling his agenda. Very annoying. No need for that trash.
My LCP .380 max has a hammer that is not all the way back until the trigger is pulled; the trigger moves about 1/8" when the trigger is pulled. I wish Ruger offered a manual safety with it.
What kind of rotgut ammo are you shooting????
I'd recommend polishing the feeding ramp then trying something hard nosed like solid mini mags. When I got my Kel-tec P3AT, which shoots 380ACP, the feeding ramp was fowling up after about 20 rounds and would cause jams. So I've polished the ramp. I did it by using a Dremel with a hard wool cone shaped polishing bit and liquid diamond dust polisher.
Change your ammo, Mark. Every shooter knows thats the first thing to consider. You’re looking much more fit lately, congrats SF🇺🇸.
its the ammo
i had a Ruger Mark 1 for about 25 years and it was very picky about ammo. Once i started using CCI .22 ammo. Many of my feeding problems went away, except when i fired hollow points, the FTFs.returned.
Mark, what I am thinking is, it could be the lips on your mag. I have a Hi-Point .380 and it did the same thing, until I polished the feed ramp and took some needle nose pliers and gently opened the lips on the magazine. Just a thought
I use cci mini mags only and no problems. It almost seems like the rims are catching on the round below it.
Is it just me...or is it painful to watch the extreme amount of movement required for trigger reset ? 22 LR for self defense? I guess it is OK if you don't value your life very highly.
22 LR is a rimmed cartridge, the rounds need to be loaded in the magazine a certain way to avoid "rim lock". As you load you need to ensure the rim of the top bullet is in front of the rim.of the bullet under it so the rim.of the top round being stripped off the magazine doesn't catch on the round under it. Repeat this for the entire magazine. There are a lot of internet articles that illustrate the proper loading to avoid rim lock better than I can explain here. Good luck.
gotta say, you look So much better, congrats!
I have the same Ruger 22LR LCP II and have had the same issues.
I find it runs well when I lube the mags.
Also when I lube the gun so much it almost drips.
Lastly, I have learned never to use hollow points, Armscor or Remington Vipers.
It is a fun shooter, but I would never use it for conceal carry.
22 lr is great in riffles no way would i rely on a 22 pistol
A revolver in a pinch but I've never had a semi auto that didn't need certain ammo
@@johnwalters1055 try a p17 it will be your new favorite, guaranteed. you wont want to carry anything else.
I have a Stevens Model 62. I have found that certain round nose 40 gr, give me a lot of FTFs. CCI Mini-Mags work just fine. I think the ammo is what makes the difference for me. The spring on the slide is very strong. The better ammo is strong enough to operate the slide. The Stevens is a great rifle. I shoot quarter size groups at 7 yards with the open sights. More than once.
BIG "C"
What kind of ammo were you using?
I have one of those little Taurus .22LR pistols. The one with the tilt-up barrel. What I found was that it is not happy with extra-high-velocity ammo. Mine is 100% reliable with CCI Mini-Mag ammo, but it will experience failure-to-feeds with CCI Stingers. After some consideration, I concluded that it is due to dwell time and the extra high slide velocity produced with the Stingers!
You see, what has to happen in order for ANY semiauto pistol, or rifle for that matter, is that as the breech/slide travels to the rear during its cycle, the breech face has to clear the next cartridge in the magazine, and the magazine then has to push the cartridge up so that the breech face will engage it properly on the forward stroke and push the cartridge into the breech. It takes a certain amount of time, albeit a very short time, for that to happen. That is what is termed dwell time. If the slide velocity is too high, the slide will clear the top cartridge on its rearward travel, but will reverse direction too soon, allowing the breech face to override the next cartridge before the mag spring is able to get the cartridge in to position to be chambered.
The more compact that the weapon is, the more likely that there is insufficient dwell time to allow it to work as designed. And if you try even higher velocity ammo you are just cutting further into the dwell time, which makes the problem worse.
22lr is NOT a good defensive round, period.
Better than a very small rock! lol
@@tlgeorge59 when it jams, it IS a rock
For .22 not to be a good defense load? Look up the history. It was developed specifically for self defense.
My friend was murdered with a freedoms arms 4 shot mini revolver in 22 so yes it will do the job
@PrestonRush-my2nx yes it does just fine 👍
I had issues with mine. Ruger replaced the whole slide assembly and it runs perfectly with federal target value pack. I love mine!
Brother, you might want to try several different brands of ammunition to see if one works reliably consistently.
Walther p22 did a ton of polishing and removing material off the hammer to get it to run better. Still have stove pipe and not close all the way forward on the next round .I have tried 6 different ammo brands including mini mags. I have the Browning 1911 22 which shoots great but the sights are horrible non adjustable on the elevation so shooting 10 inches low at 15 yards. The best 22 auto I have shot is the Ruger 22/45 target.
If it's shooting on center, file down the front sight, a little at a time.
10" low at 15 yards is going to take a little work.
Otherwise, place the top of the front sight slightly above the target and see where you are. That'll give you a clue as to how much filing you've gotta' do.
Keep in mind, if you're shooting downhill, it's going low, uphill's going to go high.
For this reason, keep the barrel, in relation to the target, as level as possible while making any adjustment to sights.
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I own three lcps in 380 and they've been flawless. And they are not locked and cocked, they are halfcocked and any pocket pistol should be in a pocket holster.
I've had two in 380 and both are garbage
That's about the size of an glock 26. I've never had a problem with my glock 26
I have the Glock 26 and a Ruger LCPII (.380). They are nowhere near the same size. The LCP line are pocket pistols while the G26 is a sub-compact best used for IWB or OWB.
It might be finicky with certain ammo. it might want that hot
Stuff like cci stingers, mini mag, and federal punch. Or you can polish the feed ramps it does sound mess up that both pistols are not feeding properly
If you run CCI I would bet that problem goes way down in occurrence.
Not for me. My LCP2 .22 just does not like most .22 ammo. I have tried a lot of different fixes without much headway.
I could be an issue with the magazine followers and springs. I would suggest you take them apart and spray some silicone dry lube on everything before reassembling. Do not use regular gun oil. That can make it worse
I used to own a Bobcat in .22 that liked to jam with certain ammo. I figured then that if Beretta (the oldest gun maker in the world) couldn't put out an utterly reliable semi auto in .22, nobody could. And so far, my theory is proving sound
My experience with 22 hand gun̈s. Ruger and other is you have to use cci type ammo all fail a lot with rifle rim fire ammo.
Properly clean and lube and polish the feed ramp. Then try some good ammo like cci mini mags or federal punch. In my experience Remington thunderbolts are crap. I would personally never trust my life to a semi auto 22 lr.
22 long rifle was originally made for 22lr rifles not pistols and certainly not micro pistols. The only pistol in 22lr that I owned was the Ruger Mark series that was reliable that was all steel with bull barrel.
Is your thumb hitting the slide stop?
My dad's got a Ruger 9 mm and it has that same feed problem. My Taurus was having the same issue but it turns out my lazy backside just needed to clean it 🤣
I have an LCP Max in .380 and had the same problem with it not going into battery intermittently.
I sent it back to Ruger, and they replaced the barrel (something wrong with the lockup?) and it works perfectly now.
I carry it daily in a Vedder pocket holster made of Kydex.
Liberty .380 self-defense ammo has screamer velocity, and is more than adequate in a God forbid self-defense situation.
I even purchased a second one for my wife.
My MAX feeds and ejects great but suffers horrendous POA POI... and in fact my LCP ll 380 also does too, albeit much worse... 😆
My GSG does this same thing. I found out that I needed to use high velocity 22 amo. The problem was that there wasn't enough gas pressure to move the slide adequately for proper feed.
If you have the GSG 1911-22, it says right on the slide HV22lr required. Or you could scrape off all the paint on the inside of the slide and enjoy running subsonic ammo.
I got the first version of the LCP that came out. Not sure of differences between it and later ones. However, I did notice that the hammer actually stays in a half cocked position after chambering a round and between shots. Hammer supposedly cannot accidentally fall from that position. Some automatics can be ammo sensitive too. Always good to put about a hundred rounds through brand new automatics, kind of helps with break-in, although, I've had automatics that ran flawlessly from day one.
I bought one of these in January 2024. I test fired it with 250 rounds of various name brand ammo. I experienced similar issues...light primer strikes, fail to extract, stove piping. I sent it back to Ruger. They installed a new barrel and slide. 2nd day of testing with various ammo produced the same results. More light primer strikes, fail to extract. I sent it back to Ruger again. I talked to the technicians who examined it and they told me they fired 130 rounds of Aguila ammo through it with zero malfunctions. They advised that these pistols are ammo sensitive which I already knew. They said they would ship it back to me with 3 extra magazines, thinking that maybe some of my (already purchased) extra mags might be the problem. I haven't shot it for the 3rd time yet but I've already ordered some aftermarket parts that are supposed to fix the issues from Galloway Precision (hammer spring and extractor spring kit 27.00) and Mcarbo (stainless guide rod and recoil spring kit). There are numerous owners who have complained about this little gun and once they've added the parts I described, they've advised 100 percent reliability.
The issue I talked about with Ruger is - one shouldn't have to install aftermarket parts to make a 350.00 dollar gun function 100 percent. I'm going to test it again (without the added parts) but I assume it will malfunction so off to the gunsmith for install. When all is said and done, this has been the most disappointing firearm I've ever purchased. It may just guard the interior of my safe from now on.
Ruger has a great warranty. I had the same issues with one of my lcp 380s. It was made in the Carolinas. I sent it in, and they fixed the issue.
My Ruger 22lr behaves similarly. Discovered great variation in rounds when chambering them in my Ruger “single six.” Never a stoppage with rounds pre-screened for easy insertion into the revolver cylinder. Snug fitting rounds in the revolver cylinder will misfeed in the 22lr. That’s been my experience.
We have a Walther P22q that has become my wife's favorite gun, it runs very reliably. Thousands of rounds so far and minimal malfunctions when compared to the round count.
I had an Sig .22 Mosquito, it was a jam master, I took a dremel and ground the feed ramp a tiny bit and then polished it, then it shot perfectly, even with the cheap Remington golden buckets of bullets😅
I noticed a lip in front of the feedramp of the barrel. I dremeled it smooth and it runs fed punch great now... prior to that it ran velocitors flawless but not punch but now all good.
My P365 did that the first shots. I oiled it and it hasn't done it since.
Get some CCI minimags,I wouldn't run Remington thunderduds in my LCP2,not only are they dirty the loads are inconsistent.Mine has been flawless with Minimags and Velocitors.Love mine.Clean it good and try the CCI's,you might be pleasantly surprised.Good luck brother
My first concealed carry handgun was and is a Kel Tec PF9. At the time I bought it, it was the smallest 9mm pistol on the market. It is a 6 plus 1 capacity and never failed to function well over the years. I'm not really a 9mm guy so a I don't carry it often now days. Others have higher capacity but I don't need large capacity with no intention to have a sustained battle.
Sometimes u need to pull the slide stop spring and adjust the pressure. I had a p220 that wouldn’t lock back so I softened it up now it locks back every mag. This ruger looks like it needs strengthening. He’s not showing the failure though so we don’t know
You said you were stupid. You guessed that it might be the ammo. You're getting warm.
I have no issues with mine. I run Federal Automatch and CCI Stingers. It runs flawlessly.
The SR 22 pistol I have eats everything without an issue.
First off; small .22 LR semi-autos often have feeding problems. But but the video, this is definitely ammo related.
Lcp2 is my best pocket pistol. Either you are not using lube on the slide, or you're using an ammo that wont rack the slide.
I have put hundreds of rounds through my Ruger LCPII in .380 without feeding problem, even using cheap Norma FMJ & defense ammo.
The accuracy sucks but pocket pistols are designed for close-up self-defense (
I had the same problem with my kel tec p17 .22lr. I found problems went away with the higher velocity ammo over 1250 fps
Try a lighter recoil spring. Plus on your first 3 mags, I could hear different reports, like some of your rounds were loaded hotter than others. For consistent hard hitting accuracy, I use Winchester. If I stepped up to running hot CCI rounds, I'd always have to adjust my zero. You could put a sharper edge on your extractor. Some newer ones hardly have a feed ramp at all. But if you play your video back; listen to the different sounds each bullet makes as it leaves the barrel. Sound sounded very muffled like a blank. God bless you.
I've had my lcp2 .22 for 31/2 years , runs flawless with CCI mini mags love it
I have many handguns, the bodyguard WAS one of them. Heavy trigger, low capacity, weighs more than better choices. Funny you like it. The LCP max is the best imo. Now, why oh why would you even consider a 22, let alone in a semi-auto. A total waste of time. You are going out of your way looking for an under powered, rim fired gun far more likely to offer you trouble. Even if it ran perfectly, the cartridge itself is less reliable. Unless you need one of every gun in your collection, just dump it. What's the point, you aren't recoil sensitive... so why?
My lcp 380 max has never failed....ever. it axurate for a delf defense deep carry. With 12 round mags i feel more than safe
Semiauto 22 handguns are picky about the ammo often. Try all sorts of ammo in various velocities. I suspect a higher velocity load just might be the charm. Of all the ammo types out there, 22LR is the most diverse in velocity. Also, like in rifles, each gun loves what it loves for ammo. Once you find what it loves, get a 1000 rounds or more and call it good.
That 2nd failure to feed was ammo related. Very apparent. Weak powder load.
I’ve been carrying an LCP max in the pocket for years and I love it. No malfunctions and no issues. Might be ammo related.
Mine is like a fat kid in a candy store ! I find the trigger to be OUTSTANDING ! After cleaning it, I lubed the underside of the slide. I also worked the action a bit in-between range time. I haven't adjusted my sights any, but with my ole eyes it hits where I'm aiming. I'm gonna try an outdoor range next. Also, I'm gonna get me some more magazines and maybe a reloader cause loading is tough on my ole fingers.
Try polishing the feed ramp on the barrel, i doubt its the ammo, the feed ramp could be a little rough👍🙏
Ruger LCP II and LCP Max 75th Anniversary model both in 380 have utter and complete garbage POA POI... 😆
I have an SR 22 and the first 2-3 mags ran like that. I realized I was using standard velocity cci . Switched to mini mags and federal hi velocity and never had another problem