@@deathbykonami5487 she did not die in that game , she went to hell to rescue Jeanne's soul and then went back to help Loki and also met her father in a younger state. Bayo 2 is the most heroic she has ever been and has a happy ending.
I narrowly suffer a cardiac arrest when I saw that scene for the first time, it was really disgraceful of Platinum to do something like that. They lie to us and broke our trust by doing this great injustice to our favourite characters. Screw them and I bet Kamiya also knew about this as well. Damn him.
I know... she's my favorite character too, she really deserved a better end. I really loved the ending except for how Jeanne's death was handled. I hope her, Bayo and Luka are still alive in the other timeline.
@@connie0106 I have high hopes that they are still alive. As brutal as Jeanne's death is I believed it was deliberately done including Cereza's due to a last minute or some rush decision made by PG. Additionally, the entire storyline is very terrible and too ambiguous to understand, it felt as if it was rush at a last minute attempt to gain profit. The biggest question is why is PG so desperate to finish this game's storyline unlike the first two which are far more cohesive.
I like how Bayonetta couldn't save a single alternate version of Jeanne and herself. I get that good stories should have stakes but come on, you think she could've saved at least one.
@@ASSARAPTUS nah it's just bad writing, that was the problem with Bayonetta 2, she's a human but she can kill Gods, angels, and demons, everytime she sees a character in danger in Bayonetta 3, she just kind of stands there and shoots her guns when she can literally summon demons
@@dianamunoz4296 not to excuse the shit writing but remember the demons won't help unless under demon slave, so at any given point if she fucks up she can die to her own demon
@@dianamunoz4296 Lmao that only happened with the Ancient China Variant. All of the other ones she was either too late or she had to kill them herself. So I wouldn't call that bad writing
Jeanne was killed way too easily. She should've at least be able to dodge a mere laser sword from someone in a fixed position . Considering everything she's been through
@@drewhaynes1874 I hope this ain't the real Jeanne but an alternate one because the original one is way more aware and possessed a sixth sense to avoid even last minute dangers with her superhuman reflexes. For some reason, they did not appear to aid the 3rd Cereza. Another flop storyline and a big mistake.
These deaths aren’t intelligent enough . She has witch time …. Bayonetta has witch time…… and Jean and bayonetta have bat within….. how tf are they having problems saving each other or themselves??? They totally forgot how powerful these two were in the first and second games …. You gonna kill jeane or any version of bayo you had better see them fighting for their lives with Dante level threats or other skilled umbran/lumen sages. Not this. I’m also shocked they didn’t touch on bayonettas angelic abilities side because she’s part angel too.
@@derrickdaniels3955 Exactly, Jeanne being a highly senior Umbra witch could actually have dodge that ambushing attack with moth within. Furthermore, Cereza's half Lumen Sage identity could have prevented her from being dragged down to Inferno easily. They will not have gone down that quickly, plus this game made them look weaker than usual.
Absolutely agree with you brother, their deaths are just haphazardly planned and it looks like Platinum wanted to save time or cut cost by reducing the details of the storyline. What the hell, they were given more than five years to make the third instalment and this is what they came up with? Really disappointing and disgraceful. There are just too many flaws and last minute changes put in place in the game.
It is really heartbreaking to see that scene but there is still a lot of ambiguity to it, if you notice carefully, Jeanne and Cereza are much weaker than usual and not like the ones we see in the first and second games. This does not make any sense, that is why I believe that these are not the original characters but rather different variations of them in another time displacement.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221Did you even pay attention to, like, ANYTHING in this game? -Cereza, and most likely Jeanne, are canonically more powerful in 3's universe than we've ever seen, that's literally why Cereza is called Arch-Eve Origin, she's the most powerful woman not just in her universe, but in the entire multiverse. -They're also explicitly NOT the OG. On top of OG Bayo actually showing up at the end, it's explicitly stated in Love Is Blue and Scarborough Fair's descriptions, they added a line to the usual descriptions explaining that they were created for another Bayonetta.
it's called plot convenience. writers just wanna make bullshit plotlines in order for that twist to be somewhat gruesome and terrifying, that you would think that sigrud is that final boss you don't wanna fxk with lol.
BRUH they had to massively nerf her to achieve these plot points. bayonetta and her variants could've entered witch time, forsee and dodge incoming attacks, or immediately summon an infernal upon facing a huge danger as we saw from the previous games. look at how chinese bayonetta just stood there and did not see a huge hand coming to grab her from behind? i cant believe this
@Yassified Plush she’s human but realistically that shouldn’t mean she forgets how to use witch time or dodge things she’s fought multiple Gods and won so I have no clue why she’s on this game running out of stamina, forgetting how to dodge and being useless
In the end all the abilities you are talking about are game mechanics. You have to understand that as a videogame you always have to win but there will be always be differences between gameplay and lore xd
@@OscarBrambilaall gameplay skills EXIST IN LORE, everything bayonetta does in gameplay HAPPENS IN LORE, seriously learn what bayonetta is like first before being a connoisseur
They nerfed all the Bayos (and Jeannes) so hard in this game. Some of them died way too easily… Like Whittingham Fair Bayo not using Bat Within even though she saw that laser coming for a solid second (had time to react and gasp at it approaching), while Bayo in Bayo 2 had like 0.01 seconds to dodge all of those bullets Balder redirected at her). Then there’s Japanese Bayo “being caught off guard” even though she felt the ground rumbling for a couple of seconds, Chinese Bayo already starting to crack from merely getting grabbed, Jeanne dying from a laser that takes a couple seconds to fire (see how the arm retracts) from someone in a fixed position… the only three deaths that sort of made sense were Egyptian Bayo (it’s a black hole - what can you even do?), French Bayo (you can’t really escape sound and those notes must have been destructive) and French Rosa imo.
@@fandejojos8354 es un meme. Esta diciendo que Hellena estaba en lo correcto y deberiamos haber boicoteado el juego, no por que Hellena no le dio voz a bayonetta, pero por la historia horrenda
The only Bayonetta I could see dying if the story was rewritten is French Bayonetta, I can definitely see her in a constant state of turmoil as her world was destroyed and her mother killed off by our Bayonetta, even if she didn’t want to kill her, even if this is an alternate variant of Rosa. French Bayo in some way would harbour hatred towards Bayonetta for killing off Rosa and could turn on the team of Bayonettas to avenge her mother, only to get killed off in her vengeful rage.
I don’t know why Jeanne’s death was rushed. Even though she could react to speed quickly but got backstabbed by Sigurd? And finding out that Sigurd was the villain in the game? That’s just came out of nowhere. Also why there are so many Bayonetta variants died when they need to save some few characters that are helpful to move the plot well. And also, why wasn’t Rodan showing off? He’s always stayed in his bar, doing nothing but let Bayonetta and her allies died off in front of us. And for Bayonetta, she needs to stop standing there and watching them suffering and just do something about them to save them from Homunculi. Plus, Singularity, being the most powerful character in the game, needs to have weaknesses. Making him a flawless villain does not make him a great antagonist to write. The writers of this game rushed it through it without slowing it down. And never answers our questions, just us questions those answers.
They created more questions with this haphazard and substandard game. I think judging by these quick death scenes, it is like they are in a such a hurry to erase everything with an extremely confusing storyline with no meaning or connection.
I think Singularity is a metaphorical representation of Platinum itself while Sigurd is Kamiya who is said to have how should I say an obsession about Jeanne. So they literally destroyed the very achievements that brought them so much success because of their own greed, ego and exploitative attitude.
@@deathbykonami5487 then her death feels anti-climatic when she have the ability to react extremely quickly and just a very quick reflexes ? (With proof of the first game events) Yeah it was deffo rushed, stop the cap lol
The Sigurd thing is foreshadowed by like, one vague line from Viola near the beginning of the game and then never touched again, yeah they didn't try too hard to lay down the groundork for that one
Ngl these just feel so rushed for the sake of Viola being the only one left, they all just felt so frustrating to watch because there's so many things they could've done differently, it's like these characters suddenly forgot all about their abilities and powers and just accepted death lmao, i truly don't get it, they made many of them look careless and weak, and these scenes were so predictable and boring to watch as well, i truly think they shouldn't have gone for such a complex plotline if they didn't have any idea of how to handle it properly, if all Bayos and Jeannes were gonna die it should've been much more epic and dramatic than this
I agree, I don't even necessarily have an issue with prime Bayo dying in the end, but the way it was executed blatantly to hook into a sequel with Viola is like a slap in the face. The send-off for these characters deserved to be about them, not advertisement for Bayonetta 4
I feel like a lot of this writing is bad and inconsistency, I've been a fan of series since 2009, and I have never seen Bayonetta THIS weak and slow with her decision making, in Bayonetta 1 and 2 she literally makes decisions on the spot, she literally protects Baby Cereza, Luka, and Loki, but in this game when she's sees others in danger, she literally just stands there or needs to be saved. This Bayonetta is supposed to be even more powerful than the rest because she was never sealed and learned Demon slave, but to me she's the weakest, this is not the Bayonetta who killed God twice and headbutted a skyscraper across an entire island while fighting her father.
@@RedDusk369 she did 90% of the work.... Only finishers are when someone else came in. Also to op, this Bayonetta isn't the one from 1+2 this one is strongly implied to be the little cerezas altered timeline
I guess it’s a different Bayonetta being we’re not playing as Bayonetta 1 Bayonetta but the little kid from that game and the fact that she has to enslave the demons to her now instead of them willing to work for her like in the first 2 games, but yeah it does seem a bit crap lol.
Same here, I have also been hardcore Bayonetta fan since 2009, this 3rd game is nothing but a great disappointment, heartbreak and worst of all disgrace for us. The first two games have cohesive and well-explained storylines and character development arcs but this one has very little to none. There was not even a slightest mention of Cereza's parents Balder and Rosa let alone a minor appearance from them.
I feel really sad for Egyptian bayo She struggled her whole life with her role , and only when she finally achieved her demonic pact, she jumped into a black hole because bayonetta is hypoglycemic
I don't think i need to say it on here but just in case *SPOILERS* My issue with the way things unfolded in this game is the MASSIVE disconection from bayo 1 and 2, sure, in both of those games bayo had times in which she struggled but she has never felt as weak as this game WANTED her to feel, we're talking about a woman who literally punched the goddess of light into the sun and went toe to toe with the god that created the world itself. And i'm not talking about the boss homunculi, even regular enemies seem to give her a hard time most of the time. There's also the luka stuff, which came out of nowere, in both bayo 1 and 2 he was a supporting character at best, to say now that he's some kind of big shot with a HUGE role on every universe is just... unjustified for the character. And finally, the game never really explains what sigurd motivation is as a villain, even his plan as singularity doesn't make sense. If he just needed the alphaverse as a trap that means that he could've just killed "original" bayo and be done with that universe without running trought all the trouble to set a trap in the first place. There's also the strange abscense of inferno and paradiso in the whole conflict, i mean the world is getting destroyed, you would think that would upset someone on those factions but no, they just let everything happen for some reason. Sorry for the long rant, i just think there was a lot of bad writting in this game even thou the game itself plays amazingly.
No literally, the gameplay is fun as hell, but for the lore everything was random or just flat out stupid. I seriously don’t know how they’re gonna even write any other Bayonetta games going from this, none of this makes any sense at all
- Bayonetta herself didn't punch Jubileus into the sun. That was technically Sheba, summoned by Bayo and Jeanne together. - Bayonetta barely stood a chance against final-form Aesir. She and Balder are basically get knocked around by Aesir until Loki depowers the Eyes and thereby significantly nerfs Aesir. - Luka's significance wasn't really pushed in B1 and B2, and I'm sure that his importance was basically retconned in by B3, but honestly it makes more sense to have him suddenly become important as Arch-Adam compared to, say, Balder. (That in itself is a bit...eugh. Unless you're into father-daughter incest.) I think a big part of the issue is that because there haven't really been any other examples of "alternate universe Bayonetta stories" other than Bloody Fate, we don't really have a reason to assign that much importance to any of the "supporting characters," but even in B2 Bayonetta comments that Luka has the knack for showing up at the perfect moment. His importance to the stories of B1 and B2 is a lot more subtle (and, fairly enough, a bit forced in the writing) than Jeanne's or Balder's, but it's there, and I think that B3's biggest struggle was that it was a case of "tell, don't show" that fell through. Also keep in mind, in B1 he's basically stalking Bayonetta, and in B2 she's clearly only just got to the point of toying around with the idea of a full relationship with him. (Once again, Bloody Fate being the only other real content we've got for the franchise is problematic.) So the only real problem about "Luka wasn't that big a deal before" is the fact that we don't have any content showing what happened after B2; it's completely possible, just never made canonical before B3, that he became a big part of her life at that point. - I have a suspicion that what the writers failed to make clear enough is that the Bayonetta 1, Bayonetta 2, and Bayonetta 3 Bayos were supposed to have basically been the strongest ones out of all of the multiverse. In most multiverse stories, it's usually taken for granted that not every variant of a character will have been the same power level. There may have been some verses where Cereza wasn't born a witch, or where she died early, or where Jeanne killed her instead of sealing her away or training her, or where Singularity took her out in one quick and easy battle and overran those verses immediately. Once again, B3 may be a legitimately good example of why "show, don't tell" can sometimes be a good rule of thumb for story writing. Maybe he needed the trap to get rid of the "original" Bayonetta because she was the 3rd strongest Bayonetta in existence, etc. - Why would Inferno and Paradisio care about this conflict? It's not like Singularity openly expressed an interest in invading either of the other two realms...yet. In B1, Paradisio was making moves to try and use Jubileus to merge the realities into one (basically the "make everything Paradisio" campaign), so they clearly don't give a shit if Purgatorio and Chaos are destroyed or merged into a single plane of order. Inferno just doesn't want Paradisio to win. I doubt the demons of Inferno would actually care if the witches and humans completely disappeared due to Purgatorio/Chaos self-imploding and wiping itself from existence, as long as that cataclysm didn't take Inferno with it. Honestly, I think something that _really_ should have been explored was the fact that Cereza, as a child of an Umbra Witch and a Lumen Sage, was supposed to have been some kind of world-threatening mix of darkness and light, yet we never see anything come of that. I think it would have been interesting for B3 to have had Balder involved in the story and to have shown this third variant of Bayonetta actually being able to interact with both Demons and Angels to fight Singularity's monsters. It would have made for a slightly more interesting setup at the end to have Viola be this quartered child of light, dark, faery, and human.
Me too, it’s so sad cause I was *loving* Bayonetta 3 until I hit the finale and rushed plot points. There was so much potential to be had and it gave me whiplash so many times with how quickly these things happened without being developed in a meaningful way. I wish every Bayonetta survived and Jeanne too, I honestly have mixed feelings towards the ending of Cereza and Luka dying, cause on the one hand, I kinda get what the writers were trying to do. The point of Bayonetta failing was to establish the threat and power of Singularity, but on the other hand. Bayonetta and everyone did not have to be so weak just to get killed off and advance the plot. Viola barely had time to develop and as someone commented on a video, Viola should’ve been named Violetta instead which would’ve made more sense as daughter of Bayonetta and Luka, plus violet is a shade of a purple.
You wanna know what's kinda sad, is that Helena probably would have been able to voice the alternate versions of the bayos, kinda like a wink-wink to gamers on why they have Hale voice this new one. Of course, what happen happened and it's all kind of melancholic in hindsight.
Yeah , sadly it's all her fault , she ruined it for us and for herself. If she didn't go full greedy and bozo the og bayonetas nostalgia part from the end would have hit harder.
@@SwiftieLuma Imo I don't think it's all her fault. Platinum obviously didn't want her regardless of the lies Helena said to make it seem worst. They should have proposed the idea of her only voicing the OG-2 Bayo's from the start. Since it was maybe a handful of lines. They are both equally at fault...
@@loveRCDtv that makes absolutely no sense. Her ego clearly got the best of her and that's only her fault. They still wanted her to be part of the game even if she wasn't the main Bayonetta, they still asked and she still said no and the rest is history.
these deaths were so pathetic? bayo punched god into the sun in bayo 1 and ur telling me that all of these versions of bayonetta would die so easily without putting up a good fight? wtf platinum
Technically, by the lore of the game, it's implied that "Bayonetta" may have been more of a title or moniker than her actual name, especially with the final duel between Viola and Dark Eve and the final cutscene with Viola and Rodin implying that Viola now carries the name of Bayonetta. It's the perfect way for them to start a new trilogy focused around Viola or some other descendant without having to keep finding new shit for Cereza to get into, because honestly, how do you go beyond saving the multiverse?
Oh god please tell me the variants somehow got revived at the end because it’s stupid how they just got killed of like that. Seriously what the hell. Why they do this, no one wants this. Idiots
I noticed that every permadeath from every Bayonetta was displayed by them getting turned into red crystal and shattered. This might be proof that Arch Bayonetta is not dead. She was killed in the same way Jeanne was killed in Bayonetta 2, having their soul ripped out by Gomorrah and dragged into the Inferno. Getting your soul dragged to hell is not a guaranteed death. It's been proven that an Umbran witch can be freed from hell as long as their body remains intact and their soul gets liberated from hell. Luka was by her side when they were dragged to hell, which means her soul is safe for the moment. as long as Luka can keep her soul safe, it's possible for Viola to save them both.
Let's hope we have another Bayonetta, this time Viola trying to save her parents and Luka and Cereza trying to escape Inferno. I. Mean Luka is powerful too now so everything could happen.
Cereza needs her Umbran heart brought back to her soul for her to return to her body but her Umbran heart broke during the battle against Singularity, meaning she is surely dead.
should be thanking this person for saving you hours of your life from seeing characters established over a decade ago getting shafted by poor storytelling.
Thankfully with the destruction of Singularity all the worlds where restored to their original states. So yeah while loosing Brave Cereza is sad, at least the multiverse of Bayonetta was saved.
Ok so, the amount of people who think that the variants are dead is shocking, so let me explain the ending because it was poorly communicated. Anyone killed by Singularity had them and their worlds restored (sorry rosa and Egyptian Jeanne). We know this for three reasons. A, Enzo's family died in the prologue but are back in the final cutscene. B, when the variants of Bayo are jumping singularity, when they get hit, they simply dissipate, and we know what it looks like when an Arch Eve gets killed by Singularity. They simply got sent back their homeworlds is all. C, when Bayo 1 and 2 assist prime Cereza, Singularity states he killed them and their worlds long ago. He also is shocked that "Phenoma once affirmed is changing" aka what he's been doing is being undone. So that raises some questions: where is Jeanne during the epilogue cutscene? Most likely mourning Cereza or they just forgot to write her into a scene. The latter is more likely considering how messy this story's writing gets in the last half. Is whittingham fair Bayo back? Maybe. If so it's not like Viola would know, because their in different universes. So I hope that clears some things up. Thanks for reading!
The plot has too many holes if you compare it to 1 and 2. Given how most of these characters die from something that can be avoided. I strongly believe Bayonetta and Jeanne is still alive somewhere in the alternate timeline. This one died way too easy. Though I believe this Bayonetta is little Cereza from the first Bayonetta game.
All of this just would've been so much better if it could be slotted under "bad ending". Seriously just have it be that if you have a high enough score in each fight where a character dies then you are instead able to save that character. Those first credits are for the bad ending, second for the normal ending, and the dance party is reserved for the best ending. If them surviving could pose problems for the story just have them going off to other universes to try and get the chaos gears in those, could even serve as DLC content.
@@CuteHimbo Meta-wise, yes. In-universe though it makes complete sense to have as many Bayonettas trying to find chaos gears as possible, since you never know which ones will succeed or fail. As it stands if the main Bayo died in any of those worlds the quest to save the multiverse would be back to square one. And once again, the point of sending them off is only to get them out of the story if keeping them around would pose a problem, it's not meant to be useful.
Holy crap this is so bad. The samurai one... Bayonetta literally just stands there. And her reaction was so badly animated. Is this game really the official Bayonetta 3? I swear it feels like it's a parody
This is Bayonetta 3. And Bayonetta is apparently just a name because Viola is the new one now...okay. I'm also still confused on if this Bayonetta is Cereza or is she the one we have always played?
This game kind of ruined Bayonetta (the character) in my opinion, these deaths make no sense seeing how powerful she was. Maybe Im bias since I just got done beating 1 again, and she is crazy powerful in that one. But these are just plain stupid.
I take this about the same as I do that scene in Legend of Korra, where all the previous avatar spirits are destroyed, including Aang, so Korra can be the only one, or how how Star Wars killed off all of its legacy characters so Rey could be the only jedi. It’s a cheap ploy to clear the board so the writer’s precious little mary sue can take center stage over the only characters fans give a shit about. Now we’re stuck with Literally-Fucking-Who Viola, until they find a way to bullshit the MAIN CHARACTER back into her own fucking game. Right, so, I’m going to just put this in the memory hole next DMC2 and the shitty DMC reboot.
For the Korra one, I’m also tired of people blaming Korra for the past lives being gone, like she literally couldn’t do anything. I wish more people blamed the writers and Unalaq for that. I love the show though As with Viola, she’s a great character who deserves to grow into a great hero, but they didn’t have to kill Bayo off to do that :/
You got some of the names wrong. The pink one is Japanese Bayonetta, the red one with one eye is Chinese Bayonetta, the hooded one is French Rosa, and the “thief” one is French Bayonetta. Also, you forgot Luka, he got dragged to Hell with our Bayonetta.
okay but... if i have to choose who gets the better end dante or bayonetta im with dante 100% bayo dies after failing rly fking hard in her last game dante manages to fix his relationship with his brother, and both end up in hell to reck shit they even pass the torch so much better in dmc5 after dante carried the story to that point, nero finally manages to show up and beats sense into his father and dante, both of them telling him that he can protect humanity when they are gone here its like yeah we ded bra
Honestly Chinese Bayonetta Death is the dumbest one, She could have just walked up to Bayonetta And give the the Chaos Gear but for some reason she just decided to stay there.
Eu aceito o fato de que as outras Bayonetta's não são tão poderosas, principalmente porque aparenta que elas não possuem nem a Madama Butterfly como é o caso da Bayonetta principal, creio que até a Bayonetta do universo da Viola não tinha a Madama Butterfly só por esse quesito já penso que elas são mais fracas por este fato, mas a Bayonetta original não tem desculpa, francamente, não preciso nem falar dos fatos dos dois jogos anteriores, pois Bayonetta tem de sobra nesse terceiro jogo, pois ela tem uma porrada de demônios e consegue controla-los e maximiza-los, consegue fundir os demônios com ela mesma, consegue se regenerar como visto na última luta dela contra o Strider e mesmo assim ela não consegue ser mais poderosa que a desgraça do Singularity, em tese o Sigularity deveria estar perto ou no mesmo nível que Jubileus e mais fraco que Aesir, mas o roteiro deixou ele poderoso do nada, e caso alguém venha comparar ele com o Urizen de DMC já que ambas as obras são do mesmo criador, pode esquecer. Urizen possui uma explicação muito mais lógica e clara dele ser mais forte que Mundus ou o Argosax, do que Singularity tem pra ser mais forte que as divindades de Bayonetta.
Concordo , essa história toda foi ambiciosa mas rushada , e eles tiveram que ir contra a própria lógica ja estabelecida no personagem do jogo , digo , witch time? Hello? Se elas usassem , várias dessas mortes nem teriam acontecido , o vilão e mal explicado e powercreepado sem motivo , enfim , só estou feliz por essa não ter nada a ver com a Bayo do universo principal , 1 e 2
What is super infuriating is how just completely nonsensical these deaths are. I understand "Cutscene deaths" are meant to separate the power level of a character from the gameplay, but this is just wack. In fact Our Bayonetta gets Stabbed through the chest with Five Massive claws from Strider Luka and heals from it, but in the next scene Jeanne who is basically just as strong gets stabbed once in the back and dies immediately. Huh???
I was considering if I should just play this game without watching any cutscenes, and after seeing this I can say with confidence yeah I will be skipping cutscenes
First bayonetta who die is another Bayonetta from another timeline i believe not from Bayonetta 1,i know they wear the same outfit but no they're different Bayonetta I wonder what they gonna do with viola character after this 🧐
The other Bayonetta's can't dodge rather obvious attacks despite them being the equivalent of her literally dodging bullets that Balder placed right behind her
Bayo 1 and 2 built, established the character as a badass. Now, they nerfed her and expect us to be fine with that... It doesn't make much sense from a storytelling perspective.
je ne sais pas si il aura une 'bayonetta 4' dans le future, mais je sais qu'on retrouvera Cereza, jeanne et Luka la prochaine fois. il sont peut-être 'mort' dans ce le 3éme, mais la série bayonetta est loin t'être terminer 💎💎💎💎.
@@charleskone1446 Platinum may try to put the DMC5 arc into this 3rd game but by the looks of it, it certainly does not fit well because they are not the same sadly.
Finished the game now... ZAMN, Cereza, Luka gone(maybe they return) I don't really like "pass the torch" character, but I hope that Viola can hold this franchise, so I hope that Nero's deadweight can hold Devil May Cry
To sum it up for people that are incapable/unwilling of understanding a simple plot, the deaths are as follows. V. mother - Overpowered Japanese C. - Prolonged wounds (would have been better executed without the prolonged hesitation) Chinese C. - Froze due to having to face killing a human, nevermind herself. Egyptian C.- Sacrifice due to momentary vulnerability of her counterpart. Egyptian J. - Froze due to having to face killing her oldest friend. French C.- Mercy Killing French R. - Froze due to having to face killing her mother, but eventually given the resolve to pull the trigger. Jeanne - Let her guard down. And no, she isn't all seeing. Main C. - Overexertion to the point of helplessness led to the loss of her control over a demon that is an eager predator. Dark Eve - Destructive amalgation remnant that ending up serving as a final exam for Viola, thus earning the name Bayonetta. People really need to pay attention to the actual game, rather than skimming for the next spectacle high.
She could literally save Chinese and French Cereza maybe even Japanese Cereza if she used her Witch time, that btw she barely use in cutscenes, also his own dead was dumb, she knew Gomorah is know for being a demon hard to control, if she summoned Madama Butterfly or Baal Zebul she would have survived, the other deads are...understandable
@@danielmayonaka8818 Witch time requires awareness. It wouldn't have saved any of the 3 you mention with being dissolved, having a nervous system overwrite, or having massive holes in the body. Gomorrah was the logical choice as being the most destructive demon at her disposal.
Well Bayonetta variants die here and there, But at least we know Bayonetta and Jeanne from 1st timeline and 2nd timeline still alive and well. To be honest this timeline Bayonetta look quite young and lacked experiences despite her powers.
All the other Bayonetta’s were restored tho so only cereza is the only one who wasn’t restored cuz she’s in inferno cuz she technically didn’t “die” and doubt she will
I disagree with a lot of the writing with this whole game but here’s one of my biggest things. We’re going with a multiverse angle (I don’t think Bayonetta needed a multiverse angle at all but fine) A. Why do all the multiverse worlds just look like normal places (with the only exception being China) and B. If we’re going for a multiverse angle why not have alternative versions of Balder or Loki or Rodin? It just seems like so much of this was missed or way too out there for this game.
To be fair, the multiverse is mostly to get to the different Bayonettas that would come from different environments. Though Singularity notes that the world featuring China takes place in present day & is just extremely different, resembling the past. And Rodin, as someone from inferno / paradiso wouldn't have alternates in the world of Chaos, but Loki and Balder were sorely missed in this game :(
I initially thought that Dr Sigurd in the trailers was a version of Balder that Jeanne was pulling from another world, I think that would be really cool since he has a past with magic / science experimentation in Bayonetta 1
This Bayonetta and Kisaragi saya has a lot in common: They both wear glasses They have similar hairstyles They both wear black And most importantly, they suck at saving people.
I've the lore and expanding the history of the Umbran Witches, but it makes no sense how Bay 1 and Bay 2 could be so OP, and yet Bay 3 was killed in one swipe.
If it makes you feels better that is not our bayonetta its brave cereza so the bayonetta and Jeanne for the first games and the other universes are alive and living happy :3
@@jaxsonevans7796 worst decision they have ever made like they think people will choose to pick up the next bayo game (even tho it’ll probably have another name) for viola?
It's like Spider-verse all over again. Like the Inheritors kills all Spider-Man in every multiverse. And now we have Sigurd who is known as the Singularity wants to kill all Bayonetta in every multiverse because of women.
why is Loki in this game is my question? since this is a multiverse plot? Loki should be affected by this as well since sigrud is erasing every universe.
I think next Bayonetta should be about how Bayo and Luka try to escape from inferno and Viola trying to help them. But I don't know, Bayo should be weak now so maybe Viola rescuing them. I don't know man or if that makes sense I'm just sad cause my favorite umbra witch died and even if there are other multiverses Cerezita is gone. 😭😭😭
Ok but if it’s bayonettas death, why is Jeanne here . Or why is Jeanne here and not Egyptian Jeanne here , who had a way less stupid death. ( but still stupid because she gets surprised and attacked like all the others deaths) I guess Singularity knows to strike bayonettas and jeannes when they think they defeated him. It would kinda make sense but it’s still dumb.
Hey ho! We finally have the Bayonetta version of "sad boner" from all the Resident Evil death compilations. Thank you Kamiya. You absolutely do not hate your fanbase and did this to piss them off. Nope not at all. Thank you and i hope you never do a sequel to anything again. =) Also French Bayo looks like a Shitpost Fanmod custome, Kamiya did not give a single fuck at all lmao
honestly this game gave me mixed feelings, bayonetta doesnt feel like bayonetta, and the fact she just stanf=ds there while someone dies is weird to me
Jeanne's death was the most traumatic for me as she is saying sorry Cereza maybe this time is the end for me. The second saddest one is Cereza getting drag down to hell at the ending. Platinum has literally cut its own throat with this disgraceful piece of garbage. Pardon my words.
So you are saying everyone should have survived again for the third time in a row if that had happened there would be no point to bayonetta as a franchise it's literally stakeless and there would be no point to it even happening
@@suchayandas6136 They need to just focus on the exploits of the Laguna Hierarchy and the Infernals against Cereza and Jeanne. If you notice parts 1 and 2 focus solely on Cereza and they have just make the 3rd part with a bit more emphasis on Jeanne as the main character alongside Cereza as an equally important supporting character.
I have a suspicion that Cereza is Spanish... Her name... Her mother's name... Her birth place... The names of the locations of her birth place... I'm a Spaniard, so ik 100% that's all Spanish so there's no other explanation. Proud to live where my favourite Umbra Witch was born 🇪🇸 (Now... Could Vigrid be in Mayorca or La Gran Palma...?)
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Basically
Bayonetta: I beat you.
Villain: No you didn’t. Die.
It really dragged on tbh.
Bayonetta 1: no u
Bayonetta: B-but my plot armor......
They turned one of the most bad ass characters into someone who died several times through the game then went to hell.
Did you forget what happened in 2? This isn't a new thing.
@@deathbykonami5487 she did not die in that game , she went to hell to rescue Jeanne's soul and then went back to help Loki and also met her father in a younger state. Bayo 2 is the most heroic she has ever been and has a happy ending.
And she was basically killed BY HER OWN DEMON
@@Missing-Ace It was a contract and her time was up
@@Missing-Ace Bayonetta never died
Jeanne absolutely broke my heart. She’s my favorite character and seeing her die like that was horrible 😢
I narrowly suffer a cardiac arrest when I saw that scene for the first time, it was really disgraceful of Platinum to do something like that. They lie to us and broke our trust by doing this great injustice to our favourite characters. Screw them and I bet Kamiya also knew about this as well. Damn him.
I know... she's my favorite character too, she really deserved a better end. I really loved the ending except for how Jeanne's death was handled. I hope her, Bayo and Luka are still alive in the other timeline.
@@connie0106 I have high hopes that they are still alive. As brutal as Jeanne's death is I believed it was deliberately done including Cereza's due to a last minute or some rush decision made by PG. Additionally, the entire storyline is very terrible and too ambiguous to understand, it felt as if it was rush at a last minute attempt to gain profit. The biggest question is why is PG so desperate to finish this game's storyline unlike the first two which are far more cohesive.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221 I'm just gonna read fix it fics and pretend that Bayo 3 never happened lmao
@@connie0106 PG and Kamiya have got no backbone. The only place where this game is going is in trash.
“Character assassination” is not an understatement
Who knew Jeanne and Bayonetta’s greatest weakness was attacking from behind her. Surely a skill no one has thought of before.
Literally the only way to beat Bayo as Ganon in Smash.
That actually is her weakness in Smash, she has so many blind spots.
Nah cause balder did that in bayo 2 and she dodged it in seconds, the writers were just bad
The only death that actually left an impact was Egypt Bayonetta’s, she was the only variant that had a developed arc and her sacrifice meant something
Jeanne’s death was so damn stupid omg
With you there
@@Melly16yr10 what ?? 😭
@@tree9999 Meaning they agreed to what they said.
Jeanne has become the Krillin of Bayonetta.
@@JohnSkellington Witch Sean Bean.
I like how Bayonetta couldn't save a single alternate version of Jeanne and herself. I get that good stories should have stakes but come on, you think she could've saved at least one.
Goes to show that despite all of those fantastical abilities, she's still human at the end of the day.
@@ASSARAPTUS nah it's just bad writing, that was the problem with Bayonetta 2, she's a human but she can kill Gods, angels, and demons, everytime she sees a character in danger in Bayonetta 3, she just kind of stands there and shoots her guns when she can literally summon demons
@@dianamunoz4296 not to excuse the shit writing but remember the demons won't help unless under demon slave, so at any given point if she fucks up she can die to her own demon
1 and 2 could save people. Even with the maskarde and sin Demons she sill couldn't save herself and jeanne
@@dianamunoz4296 Lmao that only happened with the Ancient China Variant. All of the other ones she was either too late or she had to kill them herself. So I wouldn't call that bad writing
Jeanne was killed way too easily. She should've at least be able to dodge a mere laser sword from someone in a fixed position . Considering everything she's been through
Yeah she was put down so quickly. It really making it frustrating that you saved her in 2 from hell just to have to die without accomplished more
@@rufure9294the Jeanne in bayo 1+2 isn't the same one in this game
@@rufure9294 son diferentes Jeanne
@@drewhaynes1874 I hope this ain't the real Jeanne but an alternate one because the original one is way more aware and possessed a sixth sense to avoid even last minute dangers with her superhuman reflexes. For some reason, they did not appear to aid the 3rd Cereza. Another flop storyline and a big mistake.
Also she always found a way to miraculously survive in crazy situations like in the first game.
These deaths aren’t intelligent enough . She has witch time …. Bayonetta has witch time…… and Jean and bayonetta have bat within….. how tf are they having problems saving each other or themselves??? They totally forgot how powerful these two were in the first and second games …. You gonna kill jeane or any version of bayo you had better see them fighting for their lives with Dante level threats or other skilled umbran/lumen sages. Not this. I’m also shocked they didn’t touch on bayonettas angelic abilities side because she’s part angel too.
Lumen and yeah hate they refuse to explore the lumen and Bayonettas connections to them through Balder
In there defense they haven’t looked at a Bayonetta game in 8 to 7 years
@@derrickdaniels3955 Exactly, Jeanne being a highly senior Umbra witch could actually have dodge that ambushing attack with moth within. Furthermore, Cereza's half Lumen Sage identity could have prevented her from being dragged down to Inferno easily. They will not have gone down that quickly, plus this game made them look weaker than usual.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221 righhht bayonetta literally got stabbed by luka in demon wolf form and healed and jeane can’t??? Wtfffffff
Absolutely agree with you brother, their deaths are just haphazardly planned and it looks like Platinum wanted to save time or cut cost by reducing the details of the storyline. What the hell, they were given more than five years to make the third instalment and this is what they came up with? Really disappointing and disgraceful. There are just too many flaws and last minute changes put in place in the game.
This game is the embodiment of "Play the game skip the story"
You can't even skip the story on your first playthrough.
It feels more like a generic multiverse plot than an actual Bayonetta game. I miss beating up angels man
@@omorinintendoswitcheditionyep
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Angels became boring @@omorinintendoswitchedition
I cried so hard when bayonetta met rosa in Paris
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And Jeanne used one last chance to help bayonetta with her soul. 😭
It is really heartbreaking to see that scene but there is still a lot of ambiguity to it, if you notice carefully, Jeanne and Cereza are much weaker than usual and not like the ones we see in the first and second games. This does not make any sense, that is why I believe that these are not the original characters but rather different variations of them in another time displacement.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221 yeah it was
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221Did you even pay attention to, like, ANYTHING in this game?
-Cereza, and most likely Jeanne, are canonically more powerful in 3's universe than we've ever seen, that's literally why Cereza is called Arch-Eve Origin, she's the most powerful woman not just in her universe, but in the entire multiverse.
-They're also explicitly NOT the OG. On top of OG Bayo actually showing up at the end, it's explicitly stated in Love Is Blue and Scarborough Fair's descriptions, they added a line to the usual descriptions explaining that they were created for another Bayonetta.
So I guess the moth/bat within doesn’t work in cutscenes anymore bc Jeanne could’ve easily avoided Sigurd’s blade
I guess the writers don’t know anything about the game
Jeanne just kinda forgot about moth within like Danaerys forgot about the iron fleet
it's called plot convenience. writers just wanna make bullshit plotlines in order for that twist to be somewhat gruesome and terrifying, that you would think that sigrud is that final boss you don't wanna fxk with lol.
Moth and Bat Within to me is simple game mechanic. Also Jeanne Moth within is hard to trigger
Im pretty sure the writers made a stupid plot where she knew her time came.Jeanne was an amazing person
BRUH they had to massively nerf her to achieve these plot points. bayonetta and her variants could've entered witch time, forsee and dodge incoming attacks, or immediately summon an infernal upon facing a huge danger as we saw from the previous games. look at how chinese bayonetta just stood there and did not see a huge hand coming to grab her from behind? i cant believe this
right its so stupid... she seems so weaker than before i cant
@Yassified Plush she’s human but realistically that shouldn’t mean she forgets how to use witch time or dodge things she’s fought multiple Gods and won so I have no clue why she’s on this game running out of stamina, forgetting how to dodge and being useless
It’s not really the abilities of the variants that was the issue, but the fact that our bayonetta very clearly had the abilities to save half of them
In the end all the abilities you are talking about are game mechanics. You have to understand that as a videogame you always have to win but there will be always be differences between gameplay and lore xd
@@OscarBrambilaall gameplay skills EXIST IN LORE, everything bayonetta does in gameplay HAPPENS IN LORE, seriously learn what bayonetta is like first before being a connoisseur
They should've made bayonetta 3 focus more on cereza's lumen sage side
They nerfed all the Bayos (and Jeannes) so hard in this game. Some of them died way too easily… Like Whittingham Fair Bayo not using Bat Within even though she saw that laser coming for a solid second (had time to react and gasp at it approaching), while Bayo in Bayo 2 had like 0.01 seconds to dodge all of those bullets Balder redirected at her). Then there’s Japanese Bayo “being caught off guard” even though she felt the ground rumbling for a couple of seconds, Chinese Bayo already starting to crack from merely getting grabbed, Jeanne dying from a laser that takes a couple seconds to fire (see how the arm retracts) from someone in a fixed position… the only three deaths that sort of made sense were Egyptian Bayo (it’s a black hole - what can you even do?), French Bayo (you can’t really escape sound and those notes must have been destructive) and French Rosa imo.
We got robbed. Turned Helena Taylor was right, we should have boycotted the game
@@QT_Jeanne just shut up
@@QT_Jeanne no te alteres si helena taylor le hubiera dado voz realmente que cambiaria?
@@fandejojos8354 es un meme. Esta diciendo que Hellena estaba en lo correcto y deberiamos haber boicoteado el juego, no por que Hellena no le dio voz a bayonetta, pero por la historia horrenda
@@ryukiiko ya se jsjsjs.
Quien gana jeanne o un señor en silla de ruedas ? 😍
The only Bayonetta I could see dying if the story was rewritten is French Bayonetta, I can definitely see her in a constant state of turmoil as her world was destroyed and her mother killed off by our Bayonetta, even if she didn’t want to kill her, even if this is an alternate variant of Rosa. French Bayo in some way would harbour hatred towards Bayonetta for killing off Rosa and could turn on the team of Bayonettas to avenge her mother, only to get killed off in her vengeful rage.
Most Bayonettas: getting killed, losing their souls, etc
Bayonetta and Jeanne in Bayonetta 2: just shopping
They killed off the entire franchise to keep Viola aive.. Why?
She's important
I don’t know why Jeanne’s death was rushed. Even though she could react to speed quickly but got backstabbed by Sigurd? And finding out that Sigurd was the villain in the game? That’s just came out of nowhere. Also why there are so many Bayonetta variants died when they need to save some few characters that are helpful to move the plot well.
And also, why wasn’t Rodan showing off? He’s always stayed in his bar, doing nothing but let Bayonetta and her allies died off in front of us.
And for Bayonetta, she needs to stop standing there and watching them suffering and just do something about them to save them from Homunculi.
Plus, Singularity, being the most powerful character in the game, needs to have weaknesses. Making him a flawless villain does not make him a great antagonist to write.
The writers of this game rushed it through it without slowing it down. And never answers our questions, just us questions those answers.
They created more questions with this haphazard and substandard game. I think judging by these quick death scenes, it is like they are in a such a hurry to erase everything with an extremely confusing storyline with no meaning or connection.
I think Singularity is a metaphorical representation of Platinum itself while Sigurd is Kamiya who is said to have how should I say an obsession about Jeanne. So they literally destroyed the very achievements that brought them so much success because of their own greed, ego and exploitative attitude.
Did she in the first 10 minutes of the game like last time? No? Then it wasn't rushed.
@@deathbykonami5487 then her death feels anti-climatic when she have the ability to react extremely quickly and just a very quick reflexes ? (With proof of the first game events) Yeah it was deffo rushed, stop the cap lol
The Sigurd thing is foreshadowed by like, one vague line from Viola near the beginning of the game and then never touched again, yeah they didn't try too hard to lay down the groundork for that one
Ngl these just feel so rushed for the sake of Viola being the only one left, they all just felt so frustrating to watch because there's so many things they could've done differently, it's like these characters suddenly forgot all about their abilities and powers and just accepted death lmao, i truly don't get it, they made many of them look careless and weak, and these scenes were so predictable and boring to watch as well, i truly think they shouldn't have gone for such a complex plotline if they didn't have any idea of how to handle it properly, if all Bayos and Jeannes were gonna die it should've been much more epic and dramatic than this
Especially with how bayo only faint after summoning phantom but every other summoning doesn't even exhaust her a bit
I agree, I don't even necessarily have an issue with prime Bayo dying in the end, but the way it was executed blatantly to hook into a sequel with Viola is like a slap in the face. The send-off for these characters deserved to be about them, not advertisement for Bayonetta 4
Bayonetta finally dying hurt me so damn much :')
And now the legacy of Bayonetta, a character who loves by all, passed down to her problematic son, lol
@@elyswest6742 son?
The disrespect
People: *get killed*
Bayonetta: 😮
I feel like a lot of this writing is bad and inconsistency, I've been a fan of series since 2009, and I have never seen Bayonetta THIS weak and slow with her decision making, in Bayonetta 1 and 2 she literally makes decisions on the spot, she literally protects Baby Cereza, Luka, and Loki, but in this game when she's sees others in danger, she literally just stands there or needs to be saved. This Bayonetta is supposed to be even more powerful than the rest because she was never sealed and learned Demon slave, but to me she's the weakest, this is not the Bayonetta who killed God twice and headbutted a skyscraper across an entire island while fighting her father.
She didn't kill those gods on her own, she had massive outside help.
@@RedDusk369 she did 90% of the work....
Only finishers are when someone else came in.
Also to op, this Bayonetta isn't the one from 1+2 this one is strongly implied to be the little cerezas altered timeline
I guess it’s a different Bayonetta being we’re not playing as Bayonetta 1 Bayonetta but the little kid from that game and the fact that she has to enslave the demons to her now instead of them willing to work for her like in the first 2 games, but yeah it does seem a bit crap lol.
Same here, I have also been hardcore Bayonetta fan since 2009, this 3rd game is nothing but a great disappointment, heartbreak and worst of all disgrace for us. The first two games have cohesive and well-explained storylines and character development arcs but this one has very little to none. There was not even a slightest mention of Cereza's parents Balder and Rosa let alone a minor appearance from them.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221 yes there was did you not see the video
I feel really sad for Egyptian bayo
She struggled her whole life with her role , and only when she finally achieved her demonic pact, she jumped into a black hole because bayonetta is hypoglycemic
Yeaaah right? it’s not like she just ripped her own hearth moments ago
@@angelgarza4949 Yeah it's not like she did it 9 other times and keep dancing without feeling the slightest fatigue after
@@jambon2730 literally in the china level shes holding her heart COMPLETLY FINE on madam butterfly, the writers sucked.
Jeanne, Luka, and Bayonetta's deaths felt so dissatisfying.
I don't think i need to say it on here but just in case *SPOILERS*
My issue with the way things unfolded in this game is the MASSIVE disconection from bayo 1 and 2, sure, in both of those games bayo had times in which she struggled but she has never felt as weak as this game WANTED her to feel, we're talking about a woman who literally punched the goddess of light into the sun and went toe to toe with the god that created the world itself. And i'm not talking about the boss homunculi, even regular enemies seem to give her a hard time most of the time.
There's also the luka stuff, which came out of nowere, in both bayo 1 and 2 he was a supporting character at best, to say now that he's some kind of big shot with a HUGE role on every universe is just... unjustified for the character.
And finally, the game never really explains what sigurd motivation is as a villain, even his plan as singularity doesn't make sense. If he just needed the alphaverse as a trap that means that he could've just killed "original" bayo and be done with that universe without running trought all the trouble to set a trap in the first place.
There's also the strange abscense of inferno and paradiso in the whole conflict, i mean the world is getting destroyed, you would think that would upset someone on those factions but no, they just let everything happen for some reason.
Sorry for the long rant, i just think there was a lot of bad writting in this game even thou the game itself plays amazingly.
No literally, the gameplay is fun as hell, but for the lore everything was random or just flat out stupid. I seriously don’t know how they’re gonna even write any other Bayonetta games going from this, none of this makes any sense at all
Sigurd isn't actually a villain, he's just being impersonated by Singularity.
- Bayonetta herself didn't punch Jubileus into the sun. That was technically Sheba, summoned by Bayo and Jeanne together.
- Bayonetta barely stood a chance against final-form Aesir. She and Balder are basically get knocked around by Aesir until Loki depowers the Eyes and thereby significantly nerfs Aesir.
- Luka's significance wasn't really pushed in B1 and B2, and I'm sure that his importance was basically retconned in by B3, but honestly it makes more sense to have him suddenly become important as Arch-Adam compared to, say, Balder. (That in itself is a bit...eugh. Unless you're into father-daughter incest.) I think a big part of the issue is that because there haven't really been any other examples of "alternate universe Bayonetta stories" other than Bloody Fate, we don't really have a reason to assign that much importance to any of the "supporting characters," but even in B2 Bayonetta comments that Luka has the knack for showing up at the perfect moment. His importance to the stories of B1 and B2 is a lot more subtle (and, fairly enough, a bit forced in the writing) than Jeanne's or Balder's, but it's there, and I think that B3's biggest struggle was that it was a case of "tell, don't show" that fell through. Also keep in mind, in B1 he's basically stalking Bayonetta, and in B2 she's clearly only just got to the point of toying around with the idea of a full relationship with him. (Once again, Bloody Fate being the only other real content we've got for the franchise is problematic.) So the only real problem about "Luka wasn't that big a deal before" is the fact that we don't have any content showing what happened after B2; it's completely possible, just never made canonical before B3, that he became a big part of her life at that point.
- I have a suspicion that what the writers failed to make clear enough is that the Bayonetta 1, Bayonetta 2, and Bayonetta 3 Bayos were supposed to have basically been the strongest ones out of all of the multiverse. In most multiverse stories, it's usually taken for granted that not every variant of a character will have been the same power level. There may have been some verses where Cereza wasn't born a witch, or where she died early, or where Jeanne killed her instead of sealing her away or training her, or where Singularity took her out in one quick and easy battle and overran those verses immediately. Once again, B3 may be a legitimately good example of why "show, don't tell" can sometimes be a good rule of thumb for story writing. Maybe he needed the trap to get rid of the "original" Bayonetta because she was the 3rd strongest Bayonetta in existence, etc.
- Why would Inferno and Paradisio care about this conflict? It's not like Singularity openly expressed an interest in invading either of the other two realms...yet. In B1, Paradisio was making moves to try and use Jubileus to merge the realities into one (basically the "make everything Paradisio" campaign), so they clearly don't give a shit if Purgatorio and Chaos are destroyed or merged into a single plane of order. Inferno just doesn't want Paradisio to win. I doubt the demons of Inferno would actually care if the witches and humans completely disappeared due to Purgatorio/Chaos self-imploding and wiping itself from existence, as long as that cataclysm didn't take Inferno with it. Honestly, I think something that _really_ should have been explored was the fact that Cereza, as a child of an Umbra Witch and a Lumen Sage, was supposed to have been some kind of world-threatening mix of darkness and light, yet we never see anything come of that. I think it would have been interesting for B3 to have had Balder involved in the story and to have shown this third variant of Bayonetta actually being able to interact with both Demons and Angels to fight Singularity's monsters. It would have made for a slightly more interesting setup at the end to have Viola be this quartered child of light, dark, faery, and human.
Goodbye I’m going to miss you you’re always my favourite super smash Bros character to play
i cant believe that bayo takes 3 seconds to react to chinese bayo getting grabbed then a further 19 seconds of standing to begin shooting lmao
man I feel bad for luka, but it was cool of him to go along with bayo
The egyptianetta is my fave 😭
SAME. I almost cried
the logic in this game shits on itself. jeanne dies from one stab by a metal rod but bayonetta gets stabbed by giant claws and lives
I love the ambition of this story I really do, I just hate everything about the execution…
Me too, it’s so sad cause I was *loving* Bayonetta 3 until I hit the finale and rushed plot points. There was so much potential to be had and it gave me whiplash so many times with how quickly these things happened without being developed in a meaningful way. I wish every Bayonetta survived and Jeanne too, I honestly have mixed feelings towards the ending of Cereza and Luka dying, cause on the one hand, I kinda get what the writers were trying to do. The point of Bayonetta failing was to establish the threat and power of Singularity, but on the other hand. Bayonetta and everyone did not have to be so weak just to get killed off and advance the plot. Viola barely had time to develop and as someone commented on a video, Viola should’ve been named Violetta instead which would’ve made more sense as daughter of Bayonetta and Luka, plus violet is a shade of a purple.
Good ideas, questionable execution.
You wanna know what's kinda sad, is that Helena probably would have been able to voice the alternate versions of the bayos, kinda like a wink-wink to gamers on why they have Hale voice this new one. Of course, what happen happened and it's all kind of melancholic in hindsight.
The two bayos we saw where the og bayonetta just pulled out of their time loops at two different timelines
Yeah , sadly it's all her fault , she ruined it for us and for herself. If she didn't go full greedy and bozo the og bayonetas nostalgia part from the end would have hit harder.
@@SwiftieLuma Imo I don't think it's all her fault. Platinum obviously didn't want her regardless of the lies Helena said to make it seem worst. They should have proposed the idea of her only voicing the OG-2 Bayo's from the start. Since it was maybe a handful of lines. They are both equally at fault...
@@loveRCDtv that makes absolutely no sense. Her ego clearly got the best of her and that's only her fault. They still wanted her to be part of the game even if she wasn't the main Bayonetta, they still asked and she still said no and the rest is history.
@@loveRCDtv They did offer her the cameo for the 2 Bayos also.
This game is a literal fucking death simulator for each Bayonetta variant
Egyptian bayo and jeanne literally got killed by plot armor
these deaths were so pathetic? bayo punched god into the sun in bayo 1 and ur telling me that all of these versions of bayonetta would die so easily without putting up a good fight? wtf platinum
Good thing DMC V had a happy ending.
Killing off the side characters is one thing, BUT KILLING OFF THE GIRL WHO GAVE THE FRANCHISE ITS NAME?!
Technically, by the lore of the game, it's implied that "Bayonetta" may have been more of a title or moniker than her actual name, especially with the final duel between Viola and Dark Eve and the final cutscene with Viola and Rodin implying that Viola now carries the name of Bayonetta. It's the perfect way for them to start a new trilogy focused around Viola or some other descendant without having to keep finding new shit for Cereza to get into, because honestly, how do you go beyond saving the multiverse?
@@pyrrhusnikos242 But..... Cereza.... They just killed her off!
Oh god please tell me the variants somehow got revived at the end because it’s stupid how they just got killed of like that. Seriously what the hell. Why they do this, no one wants this. Idiots
Nope all dead 😞
@@demonqueen3886 why that’s bs. I feel like who ever decided not to revive them is not a bayonetta fan.
They are crooked and disgraceful SOBs.
Can we talk about how bayonetta and Chinese bayonnetta had a whole conversation without talking
Bayonetta games are not known for being well written but WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
Bayo 3 is a prime example copying your homework and trying to do a cool twist but ends up being an insult
I noticed that every permadeath from every Bayonetta was displayed by them getting turned into red crystal and shattered.
This might be proof that Arch Bayonetta is not dead. She was killed in the same way Jeanne was killed in Bayonetta 2, having their soul ripped out by Gomorrah and dragged into the Inferno. Getting your soul dragged to hell is not a guaranteed death. It's been proven that an Umbran witch can be freed from hell as long as their body remains intact and their soul gets liberated from hell.
Luka was by her side when they were dragged to hell, which means her soul is safe for the moment. as long as Luka can keep her soul safe, it's possible for Viola to save them both.
Let's hope we have another Bayonetta, this time Viola trying to save her parents and Luka and Cereza trying to escape Inferno. I. Mean Luka is powerful too now so everything could happen.
Remember, they only had one day to return Jeanne's soul to her body and judging by how it ended....a day has LONG passed lmao
She's gone
This happens to during the credits tho…
All i can imagine is Jeanne actually dodges and survives and shows up in hell to save them both
Cereza needs her Umbran heart brought back to her soul for her to return to her body but her Umbran heart broke during the battle against Singularity, meaning she is surely dead.
Man, I thought it was obvious that Sigurd was the villain. Look at his colour scheme!!!
Thanks for the profasia type thumbnail you really know how to handle spoilers
should be thanking this person for saving you hours of your life from seeing characters established over a decade ago getting shafted by poor storytelling.
People were mad when Joel died, but at least he only died once lol
And I thought tlou ps5 and tv series is alternate timeline of ps3 ver.
Thankfully with the destruction of Singularity all the worlds where restored to their original states. So yeah while loosing Brave Cereza is sad, at least the multiverse of Bayonetta was saved.
Ok so, the amount of people who think that the variants are dead is shocking, so let me explain the ending because it was poorly communicated.
Anyone killed by Singularity had them and their worlds restored (sorry rosa and Egyptian Jeanne). We know this for three reasons. A, Enzo's family died in the prologue but are back in the final cutscene. B, when the variants of Bayo are jumping singularity, when they get hit, they simply dissipate, and we know what it looks like when an Arch Eve gets killed by Singularity. They simply got sent back their homeworlds is all. C, when Bayo 1 and 2 assist prime Cereza, Singularity states he killed them and their worlds long ago. He also is shocked that "Phenoma once affirmed is changing" aka what he's been doing is being undone.
So that raises some questions: where is Jeanne during the epilogue cutscene? Most likely mourning Cereza or they just forgot to write her into a scene. The latter is more likely considering how messy this story's writing gets in the last half.
Is whittingham fair Bayo back? Maybe. If so it's not like Viola would know, because their in different universes.
So I hope that clears some things up. Thanks for reading!
The plot has too many holes if you compare it to 1 and 2. Given how most of these characters die from something that can be avoided.
I strongly believe Bayonetta and Jeanne is still alive somewhere in the alternate timeline. This one died way too easy. Though I believe this Bayonetta is little Cereza from the first Bayonetta game.
wow the plot armor is real
All of this just would've been so much better if it could be slotted under "bad ending". Seriously just have it be that if you have a high enough score in each fight where a character dies then you are instead able to save that character. Those first credits are for the bad ending, second for the normal ending, and the dance party is reserved for the best ending. If them surviving could pose problems for the story just have them going off to other universes to try and get the chaos gears in those, could even serve as DLC content.
even that would be better than what we got 😔
I actually did thought I had achieved some kind of normal ending or not the good ending when I was watching the first credits
What would even be the purpose of sending them off to find chaos gears in other universes when Cereza already finds them all? It would be pointless.
@@CuteHimbo Meta-wise, yes. In-universe though it makes complete sense to have as many Bayonettas trying to find chaos gears as possible, since you never know which ones will succeed or fail. As it stands if the main Bayo died in any of those worlds the quest to save the multiverse would be back to square one. And once again, the point of sending them off is only to get them out of the story if keeping them around would pose a problem, it's not meant to be useful.
Holy crap this is so bad. The samurai one... Bayonetta literally just stands there. And her reaction was so badly animated.
Is this game really the official Bayonetta 3? I swear it feels like it's a parody
This is Bayonetta 3. And Bayonetta is apparently just a name because Viola is the new one now...okay. I'm also still confused on if this Bayonetta is Cereza or is she the one we have always played?
Meanwhile bayo 1 and 2 literally BODIED a god 😐
This game kind of ruined Bayonetta (the character) in my opinion, these deaths make no sense seeing how powerful she was. Maybe Im bias since I just got done beating 1 again, and she is crazy powerful in that one. But these are just plain stupid.
Is it just me or is the story becoming darker and darker since the first game ?
Bayo 2 is the best if the darkest should be Bayo 1 ,because she have to kill her own father , meanwhile Bayo3 is trash 😍
Isn’t bayo fast enough to react to and dodge bullets? Wth is this?
I take this about the same as I do that scene in Legend of Korra, where all the previous avatar spirits are destroyed, including Aang, so Korra can be the only one, or how how Star Wars killed off all of its legacy characters so Rey could be the only jedi.
It’s a cheap ploy to clear the board so the writer’s precious little mary sue can take center stage over the only characters fans give a shit about.
Now we’re stuck with Literally-Fucking-Who Viola, until they find a way to bullshit the MAIN CHARACTER back into her own fucking game.
Right, so, I’m going to just put this in the memory hole next DMC2 and the shitty DMC reboot.
For the Korra one, I’m also tired of people blaming Korra for the past lives being gone, like she literally couldn’t do anything. I wish more people blamed the writers and Unalaq for that.
I love the show though
As with Viola, she’s a great character who deserves to grow into a great hero, but they didn’t have to kill Bayo off to do that :/
Thank god I speedrun this the minute it released that title and thumbnail title LMAOOOO
I didnt understand you lol
@@Duck360Gaming He finished the game fast before being spoiled right away
You got some of the names wrong. The pink one is Japanese Bayonetta, the red one with one eye is Chinese Bayonetta, the hooded one is French Rosa, and the “thief” one is French Bayonetta. Also, you forgot Luka, he got dragged to Hell with our Bayonetta.
The last one is double kill
I tried to find their names but even wiki doesnt say
okay but... if i have to choose who gets the better end
dante or bayonetta
im with dante 100%
bayo dies after failing rly fking hard in her last game
dante manages to fix his relationship with his brother, and both end up in hell to reck shit
they even pass the torch so much better in dmc5
after dante carried the story to that point, nero finally manages to show up and beats sense into his father and dante, both of them telling him that he can protect humanity when they are gone
here its like
yeah we ded bra
This is the real witch hunts
Honestly Chinese Bayonetta Death is the dumbest one, She could have just walked up to Bayonetta And give the the Chaos Gear but for some reason she just decided to stay there.
Eu aceito o fato de que as outras Bayonetta's não são tão poderosas, principalmente porque aparenta que elas não possuem nem a Madama Butterfly como é o caso da Bayonetta principal, creio que até a Bayonetta do universo da Viola não tinha a Madama Butterfly só por esse quesito já penso que elas são mais fracas por este fato, mas a Bayonetta original não tem desculpa, francamente, não preciso nem falar dos fatos dos dois jogos anteriores, pois Bayonetta tem de sobra nesse terceiro jogo, pois ela tem uma porrada de demônios e consegue controla-los e maximiza-los, consegue fundir os demônios com ela mesma, consegue se regenerar como visto na última luta dela contra o Strider e mesmo assim ela não consegue ser mais poderosa que a desgraça do Singularity, em tese o Sigularity deveria estar perto ou no mesmo nível que Jubileus e mais fraco que Aesir, mas o roteiro deixou ele poderoso do nada, e caso alguém venha comparar ele com o Urizen de DMC já que ambas as obras são do mesmo criador, pode esquecer. Urizen possui uma explicação muito mais lógica e clara dele ser mais forte que Mundus ou o Argosax, do que Singularity tem pra ser mais forte que as divindades de Bayonetta.
Concordo , essa história toda foi ambiciosa mas rushada , e eles tiveram que ir contra a própria lógica ja estabelecida no personagem do jogo , digo , witch time? Hello? Se elas usassem , várias dessas mortes nem teriam acontecido , o vilão e mal explicado e powercreepado sem motivo , enfim , só estou feliz por essa não ter nada a ver com a Bayo do universo principal , 1 e 2
I found it odd how they all so easily got captured and killed...
What is super infuriating is how just completely nonsensical these deaths are. I understand "Cutscene deaths" are meant to separate the power level of a character from the gameplay, but this is just wack. In fact Our Bayonetta gets Stabbed through the chest with Five Massive claws from Strider Luka and heals from it, but in the next scene Jeanne who is basically just as strong gets stabbed once in the back and dies immediately. Huh???
Absolutely disrespectful lol
She killed the alternative world version of her mother… 😢
I was considering if I should just play this game without watching any cutscenes, and after seeing this I can say with confidence yeah I will be skipping cutscenes
First bayonetta who die is another Bayonetta from another timeline i believe not from Bayonetta 1,i know they wear the same outfit but no they're different Bayonetta
I wonder what they gonna do with viola character after this 🧐
You're right, the one who died in the prologue was Viola's actual mother
Ok i thought its OG
@@Duck360Gaming OG is still alive, Platinum only did not want to show it.
The other Bayonetta's can't dodge rather obvious attacks despite them being the equivalent of her literally dodging bullets that Balder placed right behind her
Bayo 1 and 2 built, established the character as a badass. Now, they nerfed her and expect us to be fine with that... It doesn't make much sense from a storytelling perspective.
je ne sais pas si il aura une 'bayonetta 4' dans le future, mais je sais qu'on retrouvera Cereza, jeanne et Luka la prochaine fois. il sont peut-être 'mort' dans ce le 3éme, mais la série bayonetta est loin t'être terminer 💎💎💎💎.
Peut-être que Viola les sauvera des enfers ( coïncidence assez marrante quand tu sais que la situation est la même dans DMC 5 )
@@charleskone1446 Platinum may try to put the DMC5 arc into this 3rd game but by the looks of it, it certainly does not fit well because they are not the same sadly.
Finished the game now...
ZAMN, Cereza, Luka gone(maybe they return)
I don't really like "pass the torch" character, but I hope that Viola can hold this franchise, so I hope that Nero's deadweight can hold Devil May Cry
To sum it up for people that are incapable/unwilling of understanding a simple plot, the deaths are as follows.
V. mother - Overpowered
Japanese C. - Prolonged wounds (would have been better executed without the prolonged hesitation)
Chinese C. - Froze due to having to face killing a human, nevermind herself.
Egyptian C.- Sacrifice due to momentary vulnerability of her counterpart.
Egyptian J. - Froze due to having to face killing her oldest friend.
French C.- Mercy Killing
French R. - Froze due to having to face killing her mother, but eventually given the resolve to pull the trigger.
Jeanne - Let her guard down. And no, she isn't all seeing.
Main C. - Overexertion to the point of helplessness led to the loss of her control over a demon that is an eager predator.
Dark Eve - Destructive amalgation remnant that ending up serving as a final exam for Viola, thus earning the name Bayonetta.
People really need to pay attention to the actual game, rather than skimming for the next spectacle high.
She could literally save Chinese and French Cereza maybe even Japanese Cereza if she used her Witch time, that btw she barely use in cutscenes, also his own dead was dumb, she knew Gomorah is know for being a demon hard to control, if she summoned Madama Butterfly or Baal Zebul she would have survived, the other deads are...understandable
@@danielmayonaka8818 Witch time requires awareness. It wouldn't have saved any of the 3 you mention with being dissolved, having a nervous system overwrite, or having massive holes in the body. Gomorrah was the logical choice as being the most destructive demon at her disposal.
Well Bayonetta variants die here and there,
But at least we know Bayonetta and Jeanne from 1st timeline and 2nd timeline still alive and well.
To be honest this timeline Bayonetta look quite young and lacked experiences despite her powers.
All the other Bayonetta’s were restored tho so only cereza is the only one who wasn’t restored cuz she’s in inferno cuz she technically didn’t “die” and doubt she will
@@jeshuarestituyo284 don't forget about the Jeannes too
So shes dead forever
Oml no!
I swear there must of been someone at PG who absolutely hated Jeanne for giving her such a useless death.
what a completely wasted character.
Bayonetta almost died in that black hole until that moment she was saved
If Bayo 3 used Baalzebul on the fight where she died she wouldn't have died
I disagree with a lot of the writing with this whole game but here’s one of my biggest things. We’re going with a multiverse angle (I don’t think Bayonetta needed a multiverse angle at all but fine) A. Why do all the multiverse worlds just look like normal places (with the only exception being China) and B. If we’re going for a multiverse angle why not have alternative versions of Balder or Loki or Rodin? It just seems like so much of this was missed or way too out there for this game.
To be fair, the multiverse is mostly to get to the different Bayonettas that would come from different environments. Though Singularity notes that the world featuring China takes place in present day & is just extremely different, resembling the past. And Rodin, as someone from inferno / paradiso wouldn't have alternates in the world of Chaos, but Loki and Balder were sorely missed in this game :(
I initially thought that Dr Sigurd in the trailers was a version of Balder that Jeanne was pulling from another world, I think that would be really cool since he has a past with magic / science experimentation in Bayonetta 1
This Bayonetta and Kisaragi saya has a lot in common:
They both wear glasses
They have similar hairstyles
They both wear black
And most importantly, they suck at saving people.
How many times has Jeanne died now?
I can't see my queen die like a flop omg..
Why include jeanne if your arnt gonna include Egyptian jeanne
I've the lore and expanding the history of the Umbran Witches, but it makes no sense how Bay 1 and Bay 2 could be so OP, and yet Bay 3 was killed in one swipe.
Most of their deaths are things they can easily avoid but they all die to a grab. Some weak ass stuff lol
Why do Bayonetta and Jeanne have to die?
If it makes you feels better that is not our bayonetta its brave cereza so the bayonetta and Jeanne for the first games and the other universes are alive and living happy :3
@@fandejojos8354 I kinda doubt that they would just use alternate versions of Bayonetta and Jeanne instead of the originals.
@@jaxsonevans7796 imagine if our bayonetta die that would feel like shit
@@fandejojos8354 At this point I think Bayonetta is dead because the protagonist in the next Bayonetta game will be.... Viola.
@@jaxsonevans7796 worst decision they have ever made like they think people will choose to pick up the next bayo game (even tho it’ll probably have another name) for viola?
It's like Spider-verse all over again.
Like the Inheritors kills all Spider-Man in every multiverse.
And now we have Sigurd who is known as the Singularity wants to kill all Bayonetta in every multiverse because of women.
why is Loki in this game is my question? since this is a multiverse plot? Loki should be affected by this as well since sigrud is erasing every universe.
I think next Bayonetta should be about how Bayo and Luka try to escape from inferno and Viola trying to help them. But I don't know, Bayo should be weak now so maybe Viola rescuing them. I don't know man or if that makes sense I'm just sad cause my favorite umbra witch died and even if there are other multiverses Cerezita is gone. 😭😭😭
Ok but if it’s bayonettas death, why is Jeanne here . Or why is Jeanne here and not Egyptian Jeanne here , who had a way less stupid death. ( but still stupid because she gets surprised and attacked like all the others deaths)
I guess Singularity knows to strike bayonettas and jeannes when they think they defeated him. It would kinda make sense but it’s still dumb.
Hey ho!
We finally have the Bayonetta version of "sad boner" from all the Resident Evil death compilations.
Thank you Kamiya. You absolutely do not hate your fanbase and did this to piss them off. Nope not at all.
Thank you and i hope you never do a sequel to anything again. =)
Also French Bayo looks like a Shitpost Fanmod custome, Kamiya did not give a single fuck at all lmao
Kamiya wasn't the director for this one though ?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm viola is not going to carry this series if theyre making her the main character for 4
honestly this game gave me mixed feelings, bayonetta doesnt feel like bayonetta, and the fact she just stanf=ds there while someone dies is weird to me
That's a lotta bayonettas
Jeanne's death was the most traumatic for me as she is saying sorry Cereza maybe this time is the end for me. The second saddest one is Cereza getting drag down to hell at the ending. Platinum has literally cut its own throat with this disgraceful piece of garbage. Pardon my words.
So you are saying everyone should have survived again for the third time in a row if that had happened there would be no point to bayonetta as a franchise it's literally stakeless and there would be no point to it even happening
@@suchayandas6136 They need to just focus on the exploits of the Laguna Hierarchy and the Infernals against Cereza and Jeanne. If you notice parts 1 and 2 focus solely on Cereza and they have just make the 3rd part with a bit more emphasis on Jeanne as the main character alongside Cereza as an equally important supporting character.
pero cual jeanne la de esta entrega es la de ese universo
@@edkcorner4036 Also unclear.
@@jeremykwanhongkok4221 esta entrega deja muchas preguntas como para una cuarta entrega
I have a suspicion that Cereza is Spanish... Her name... Her mother's name... Her birth place... The names of the locations of her birth place... I'm a Spaniard, so ik 100% that's all Spanish so there's no other explanation. Proud to live where my favourite Umbra Witch was born 🇪🇸
(Now... Could Vigrid be in Mayorca or La Gran Palma...?)
Vigrid is specifically based on Santiago De Compostela (Galicia). Cereza is Spanish 🇪🇸 . Very happy to know this too.
These deaths are inconsistent and poorly written. This is how you kill a franchise