Slavery at the Constitutional Convention HD
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- Produced by the Robert H. Smith Center for the Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. Featuring:
* Colleen Sheehan: Professor of Political Science, Villanova University
* David O. Stewart: Author of "The Summer of 1787" and "Madison's Gift"
* Gene Hickok: Montpelier Foundation Board of Directors
* Hank Chambers: Professor of Law, University of Richmond School of Law
* Stewart Harris: Professor of Law, Appalachian School of Law
To take the course, go to www.montpelier.org/courses.
Wonderful breakdown of a widely misunderstood and polarizing topic during the Convention. Madison is a personal hero of mine.
Same. Think about the consequences if anyone really tried to vote to abolish slavery. True, it's not a historian's job to think what-ifs. But let's think about it. Like the people in the video said and as evidence points out, most states had slaves. And slavery was strong in the south. Any delegate who calls out against it would get shouted down. It would have gone nowhere. And if a strong abolitionist following did form, then there would have been civil war--only decades earlier than the one we had. Not something that any of the Founding Fathers would want.
Just the very thought of one human owning another human to live in wealth and luxury,it sounds a lazy ass person is to lazy to do anything for themselves, so they in turn mistreat someone else to gain power, just don't get it
nathan mccloud that’s exactly what privatized prison owners do
@@whatsthe411withdruskiwilli6 Good point!
We are not more moral, we are more knowledgeable
I’m teaching this in Middle School and it’s deep and uncomfortable but real.
Are you teaching all history or just the convenient aspects?
Well don't forget to teach about Irish slavery and slavery has been around since Biblical time's! A African historian teaches that slavery was a way for broke villages to make money 💰 by selling people who broke the law's in their villages. This is a topic that has to be studied from where it originally started! Middle Eastern countries started it originally, There are many layers to all of this!
If you haven’t read the Curse of Heaven speech, you ought to. It’s chilling.
I wonder if slavery could’ve been ended at the convention. It’s powerful to dream of where we could’ve been as a country right now if our founders would’ve had the courage to just rip the bandaid off and gotten it over with.
The only way slavery could have ended sooner would have required enslaved women to kill all their children at birth or in the womb.
I don't like how these guys shifted the blame for this on the south. Slavery was a part of the north at this time as well and was extremely important to their development.
Check out the book No Property in Man by Sean Wilentz to learn more about this. It's excellent.
asks what "JURISDICTION" did the 1787-Constitution create? And in what "JURISDICTION" did the Federal-Government, govern?
They were not rulers. You're making judgments that you know nothing of
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I am sorry, I am not understanding your statement can you rephrase?
@@willjohnson846 I'm sorry. I think I misunderstood your comment
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 oh no sweat..... people do that to me all the time.... "KNEE-JERK" before taking the time to understand what is going on...
@@willjohnson846 I politely apologized. 🤦🏻♀️
If the party that decided, who was invited to the Constitutional Convention, didn't want the Constitution to be about slave industries, they should have invited laborers and non-slave holding farmers to the table. Majority of the signers were large slave holding families. Constitution signing was about slavery and stabilizing the dollar. Feds needed metal backed currency from Europe. Maybe it was Hamilton, that help facilitate that deal. Franklin was there to notarize and his presses were put to use drafting notes against their reserve of foreign currency. Slave labor and future births were the collateral on the loan. 388,000 African prisoners of war, were force bred into 3 million over 70 years. Last payment to capitalist in on that scheme was 2015. What the Constitution says right is a facade for rightness in terms of the descendants of those original African POWs. That's the clue that the Constitutions origins was something other, than it appears.
I disagree. Hamilton and Franklin were both involved early on in anti-slavery groups- as were other at the convention. Read Madison’s notes on the matter and the discussions when the delegates went back home. So don’t act like it was some slavery conspiracy. Also, If you are so naive that you think “inviting laborers and non-slave holding farmers to the table” would somehow have created a “more perfect union” is incredibly naive. Many of these laborers were illiterate and had no experience in crafting a state - not to mention that they would still approach “the table” with their own biases and self-interests - bc that’s human nature! And the Lower classes are no lest susceptible to self-interest than the upper classes. I would advise you to read Martin Diamond’s speech “The Revolution of Sober Expectations” - the founders - with probably the exception of Thomas Jefferson had realistic goals grounded in a sober understanding of human nature - both its triumphs and it inherit limitations
@@jordansjulThe Constitution agreed to end trafficking Africa's prisoners of war in 1808 but they had no intent in ending slavery. Rather the plan was to institute forced impregnation of the female POW. That'd create a less hostile enslaved laborers and give them monopolies on domestics. Hamilton was a glorified loan officer. He negotiated the deal w/Europe to get their metal backed currency, to prop up the federal dollar. The projected births and labor of Africa's POW, were part of the insurance or collateral used to secure the loan. It was paid off in under 20 years. The breeding industry continued for another 230 years. At the time of the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation, the South's wealth was not in currency, it was in black bodies. If the financiers wanted a different outcome, they would have invited abolitionist to the Constitutional Convention.
You need to stop casting your morality onto historical figures. It's futile.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 You need to stop believing the founders had morals.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 Don't cast morality on them that doesn't exist. Morality doesn't exist in the inhumane.
Not one of these scholars mentions racism or how the contradiction between democracy and American style slavery dominated governance. 3/5's and cotton-tobacco economics (slavery) defined our foreign exchange, courts, and policy of private wealth. Under the Constitution democracy was both enshrined and made impossible.
So the founding fathers were all like, "Slavery is a horrid and wicked institution and troubles me so....I would know I myself am a slave owner.... and yes, it troubles me so......but look at the money we're making, right!" That's the most American shit I've ever heard and we're literally talking about the very starting point of the nation. Thank you once again America for being one of the reasons I hate myself, I can always count on you for that!..... Oh and to all those experts in the video a big thank you for emphasizing how bad all the founding fathers who were slave owners felt about it. Now in my mind it's almost like the thing never happened at all.
I'm sorry you feel that way. As much as we would like to, we can't change the past. So, you can either be victimized by it, and remain bitter and get nowhere. Or you can "prove" your real value and character, and get better through achievement. Bitter vs. Better. Now the ball is in your court.
You were never a slave. Why would you hate yourself?
Except most of them who owned slaves died in debt, not in riches. Slavery would only get lucrative again after the invention of the cotton-gen.
Reparations, nothing else matters.
Freedom is the Reparations. Don't forget Blacks owned Slaves to And the North states continued to have slavery Delaware, New Jersey, New York and Ohio etc after the Emancipation act. However, some states like Georgia removed slavery a year before that deal.
Gotta love how they try to rationalize and justify their evil by telling us not to "judge by our own standards." People who refuse to pay "reparations" for obvious wrongdoing and continued generational harm that slavery caused have no "standards" to speak of.
Today. Climate change is destroying the world. But in Virginia and other places they are dependent on coal mines. Unless another economic solution exists we will be asking why we kept it going.