All New Gas Gas! What are the differences from KTM & Husqvarna?! - Motocross Action Magazine
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
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The 2021 Gas Gas motocross and offroad line up is the latest addition to be attached under the KTM umbrella of motorcycle manufacturing. GAS GAS will be offering a host of new motorcycles for the 2021 model year including electric, off-road, trials, and motocross. Some of you may be asking yourselves what the differences are between the brands and is this just a red KTM? We're here to clear up the air a bit and give you some details on what gives the Gas Gas its own identity as well as similarities that cross over from Husqvarna and KTM. Motocross Action Magazine will be testing the all new Gas Gas motocross models mid December at Glen Helen Raceway. Immediately after testing we'll be able to give you a more in depth look at their bikes and how they perform on track. We hope you enjoy this informative video and it further helps you in making a conscious decision before spending your money on a new bike.
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Before U know it KTM will have all the colours of the rainbow
Rainbow Racing
They should buy Suzuki motorcycles nxt 🤣
@@maverick2242 and Sherco. And they should buy Beta too.
@@chadrides914 Why?
Both are very successful sales and in competition, they update all their models yearly and are very well run.
Suzuki are dead because they don’t care, don’t try dont up update invest in the sport at any real level anymore as sad as that is.
@@maverick2242 maverick I was being sarcastic. Long live Sherco and Beta 🙌
I remember not seeing one KTM on the Supercross starting gate around 2006-2007. Forward to now, and there is gonna be 3 different ones!
That’s what commitment can let achieve. Something Japanese are lacking lately.
@@nestserau Yamaha and Kawi are doing pretty good? Esp Yamaha.
we can thank Yamaha, the FIM and AMA for that. Every since four strokes became a thing bike prices and repair costs have skyrocketed and use bike values have fallen thru the floor
@@Sleepy.Time. used bike values have increased substantially.
@@caydenthompson126 Compared to their price new? Bullshit, show me a 5 or 10 year old 250F that is still running let alone holding its value. Meanwhile a 30 year old KX500 sells for more than it cost new.
Who remembers when 4 strokes looked like slow trails bikes and all of supercross was 2 strokes
the good days
The 4 strokes is steel slow trails bikes...Totaly sleapers!
While I’m glad 4-strokes exist nothing can compare to the feeling I get on a 2-stroke. Lucky enough to have a 1990 rm250 that’s older than me to rip around on!
Not much has changed....I still feel the top riders would win on 2 strokes.
2sk. It's the king of the mountain
So basically gas gas is a cheaper ktm and husqvarna
Cheaper but not by any significant amount...cut the price in half and id say its a worthy buy
They are all too expensive!
@@MrKdickerson1969 yep. As an ex racer I'll ride the old bikes and classics. Still tons of fun.
@@mediatool9596 Buying a GPX FSE450R for that reason.
@@benjamindavidson632 do you think a gas gas is good enough for motocross?
Put spring forks on a gas gas!!!!
Well, there goes the GasGas individuality.........
Its still alive but now its under the name Rieju
really crazy how far ktm has come
Yeah, people are not getting that KTM/Husky/Gas Gas are really helping to keep dirt bikes, SX , MX, and off-road racing alive. Our sport has really been suffering, with teams going away, deserved riders not getting rides, etc. I truly hope Suzuki doesn't totally go away from SX/MX... with half a dozen tweaks, they would be back in it. From a regular consumer point of view, more choices equals more competition and hopefully overall better prices and service.
I keep trying to tell people this. If it wasnt for ktm we wouldn't have xc versions of yamaha and honda nor the, Beta probably wouldn't have blown up nor sherco. All people do is complain about others success.
Very well said.
That intro almost blew out me headphones
I heard a rumor that KTM is buying bultaco, cz, maico and zundapp for the 2022 supercross season....
They were buying ssr too
Waiting for the yellow Suzuki with a KTM motor.
They have been around a long time. I had an old gasgas 06. Ragged it on an off road, for 2 years without even needing to touch the engine. Sold it used but still solid
I just picked up a 2022 gasgas mc250 2 stroke. I love it, I rode the 250sx and didn’t notice much of a different other than the seat. The KTM seat has a lot more grip in my opinion.
definitely one of my favorite things are the seats on these ktm/hus/gas is that they are actually comfortable to sit on not like your sitting on a rock
Gas Gas would never be doing as well as they are without KTM. The more brands on the gate means more factory rides for the riders.
I don't understand all of the hate towards KTM, Husky and Gas Gas. There must be many guys getting smoked every weekend by these great brands.
😂😂😂 hit the nail on the head
One is red, one is orange and one is white... That's about it.
you didn't pay attention in class did you?
One is built cheaper, that's the difference.
So buying a KTM and putting different bolt on parts on it makes it a whole new brand? 🤣 Make sure you use Maxxis tyres or it will change into a different manufacturer...
@@whodeany99 lol people really think that you can tell the difference between the forged triple clamps and the billet ones? Or the suspension spring? These are all replacement parts 😂 so ktm now has 3 different brands to make more money
@@TheRealBhuado right!! So stupid what people will spend ungodly amounts of money on and they swear it makes "all the difference".
Hopefully, one of either Gas Gas, KTM, or Husky brings back the Freeride 2-stroke and 4--stroke - or an equivalent.
Agree
I loved my KTM....but GM already did the Chevy/Olds/Pontiac/Buick thing.......
Stoked they have a 125!
How TF are these bikes worth $8k-$10k....i just dont get it. $4k MAX seems reasonable
its wasn't that long ago a cr250 was 5500 and the cr450 was 6k what the hell happened there just as unaffordable as when i was in high school working minimum wage.
Turn the volume up more,i cant hear the awesome generic music😂
So apart from the triple clamps it’s a mix between the husky and ktm pretty much
except cheaper
A few corrections-
KTM and GasGas triple clamps are forged. KTM special edition models are billet. All Husqvarna triple clamps are billet.
KTM has Brembo brakes/hydraulics. Husqvarna brakes/hydrulics are Magura. GasGas brakes/hydraulics are Braktec.
GasGas will have less components and less bling and will be made in Spain where labor costs are said to be less as well.
Wow dude you should apply for MXA
I’ll take the Kawi Kawi thanks!🤘🤘
It's called a KAW KAW bro, don't you know anything?
@@markmcmahen9442 lol
02 kx250
Short and clear, thanks
Btw, I miss my old beloved 1990 Honda CR 250 2 stroke!
It was enough for amateur to expert, easy and relatively cheap to maintain, big fun on track!
If you want a gasgas buy Rieju
I do love the color, red, period. I don't get why motorcycles needs graphics, stripes and stickers all around to look cool.
I'll stick to Husky/KTM or YZ
As far as the suspension, it's the KTM stuff not the lowered Husky stuff correct?
Which clutch master cylinder, Brembo(ktm) or Magura(hus)?
It didn't get its own ECU maps to match the different header? I assume it will have less bottom end without the powerbomb?
Thanks for the info on the forged triple clamps :/ and for clearing up which swing arm they have.
Looks like a good option if you are going put a bunch of aftermarket stuff on a KTM anyway.
Your not gonna get very far with 800 dollar discount, I was hoping 1,500 off or somthing
I'm not sure why forged triple clamps are considered lower quality, Typically forged components have improved mechanical properties.
Definitely forged are better. Forged pistons anyone?
They should make gas gas 3 inches lower for us short riders. Not all enduro riders are 6’2”
*KTM* is actually developing 2 strokes unlike the other 'big 4' defunct aluminum framed 'nascar' clone bikes.
Yamaha never stoped producing 2 strokes dumbass
@@backyardbraaapn1017 The 2000 year model one with a 2020 price tag that is 20 years old that one. You got it.
Big difference between producing and developing. KTM is actually still spending money on R&D for their 2 strokes. The YZ’s are awesome no doubt but Yamaha could do better. The YZ’s have basically been the same since 06 when they switched to an aluminum frame. Since then they’ve only updated little things like Ti foot pegs, tires, & plastics/graphics. Engine & chassis have been the same for about a decade and a half and the bikes sell for around $8k?!
For sure its more beautiful than the KTM's and the Husky's
I LOVE the graphics. Simple is pretty
At about time 3:20 "Map Switch" ? What is a map switch ? What does it do ? I've never heard of this before . Please explain .
Pretty much every new bike has a map switch meaning you can change to different fuel mapping with that switch
It's basically just a way to tune your engine to make more or less power by changing fuel mapping and ignition timing. Pretty useless since almost everyone I know just runs the most powerful map.
It’s crazy how expensive dirt bikes are now. I was born in 1984 and when I was around 14 a brand new 250 was under 5k, the dealerships would have used bikes for nothing I remember a 6 year old yz 250 was 1100 bucks it wasn’t brand new but it wasn’t shot you could tell it was trail driven from the scratches on the plastics. Back in 2005 I sold a 1996 rm 250 that was in like new condition it had many thousands in new parts all top of the line stuff, built motor by a very reputable guy from my area known for doing the best port work but even then they were only going for 1500-2000 max.
Does GasGas still make trials bikes ? A great motorsport that most people don't know about.
Yes they do
They sure do brother!
@@Sanguine_Addiction thanks. What brand does Tony Bou ride ? That guy is special.
@@tomchrisfield7348 Honda/Montesa
@@sebastianronnback6476 thanks for the info. I had to look it up, I didn't realize Montesa was still in business, and in a partnership with Honda.
This is so sad..... They should have kept the original Gas Gas 125, 200, 250 and 300 2 stroke engines and used them in there line up. The 250 and 300cc 2 stroke GG engines are realy something special. They are the best enduro/woods engines made for any bike EVER.
They are great indeed
and you can still get them under the Spanish brand Rieju
For me Ive always loved the KTM and it's orange color. The gasgas is a really great looking bike though!
Check my math.
KTM < HUSQVARNA
KTM > GAS GAS
Thanks for the rundown. Great info, lots of questions answered.
Why cant the gasgas 350 have a kickstarter aswell or atleast a spot to add one
I am highly doubtful that eliminating the resonance chamber saves more than a dollar or two in manufacturing costs. More like intentional perceived cheapening to encourage people to buy the premium KTM and Husky
Yeah - that explanation of exhaust change made no sense
I'm in product engineering and you bet a stamped resonance chamber is going to cost more than a pipe. You need a stamping die to build that resonance chamber and it's big $$$.
@@rebar2395 but they already have the tooling, for the other two brands...
I am from Indonesia.. 🙏
the bases of the front and rear legs together with KTM and Husqvarna
Lol What? You saying the forks and shock or swingarm is a combination of KTM & Husky features...?
Buy a Suzuki. dirt cheap right now and very fast even if you are a pro...which most riders are not....
My way of thinking!
Buy a very good RMZ 450, put some good aftermarket goodies on her, and fly......
We are not JS7, a brand new ZUKI would be more than enough.
Be well my friend...
Suzuki rules👍
I have a 2021 Gas Gas mc 125 i'm 260 pound man and it pulls me around like i'm nothing it is fast as hell to.
Silver rims 🤮
To me this is silly, but in sale market and brand owner awesome idea
Thank you for this video!!
One thing that I think is incorrect is the hydraulic systems. They are not magura they are braketec.
I'm in the market for a new (to me) dirt bike. I saw one of these for sale in town today. Now I'm interested. Very interested!
Glad I saw this...
I miss husaberg 😭
The 70 degree engine is amazing
@@marcusbevz6500 the 450 one sucked handled amazing don't get me wrong but just didn't have the engine characteristics I was after all power in the mid and signed off way too early
KTM was outnumbered in competition by Husaberg. Husaberg was the first light fourstroke. And first with no linkage. Then KTM bought Husaberg and took all the good. Then they take Husaberg of market. Then the Swede dont like KTM. So then they bought Husqvarna and try to make it Swedish again. After they just put the Swedish brand Husaberg down😝 So I will never buy a KTM i life.
what a great video! what about reiju??? have you heard of them ?
Do you think there can be a bright future for a bike with this name that half a world can’t even read?
@@nestserau yeah bc its also a legit ktm/gas gas... just made in South america. your name itself can hardly be pronounced by anyone either. irrelevant.
@@UploadCreated Yeah, but I’m not trying to sell myself 🤣🤣🤣
@@nestserau Don't really care about the name... look at many other companies name. besides they have like 5 bikes in the offroad category in the usa
@@nestserau Lmao good comeback. I seriously laughed with you 👍
how much sre the 125 plz respond
GAS GAS needs to make an e bike.
That would be awesome too!
Same frame and set up the e compknents.
no
I’m riding a kx85 right now and the mc125 is my dream bike
At least they didn’t completely ruin the Gas-Gas like Cagiva did to the Huskies back in the day.
I wonder how much is emissions related. One company importing 10,000 motorcycles vs 3 smaller companies importing bikes. I recall there was a quantity where standards were raised.
It looks like you’ll be able to have a Gas Gas 500 two stroke too. If a BRC/Husky 500 2017 and up conversion is applicable. What the MSRP on a Gas Gas two stroke 250 ?
7800 USD and some change for mx250
Would you know if there are any kits available for snow bike conversions that would fit the Gas Gas 300 2 stroke ?
So red plastics then , like we said . KTM can keep it , I'll wait for a Rieju.
I would imagine the second hand value may be a lot lower initialy as people may be hesitant to jump on one
Saludos desde Argentina !!!
sitting on both gasgas and husqvarna 250 on the showroom feels like the husky softier and lower than the husky (250fe vs. 250 ecf
It is, that's what the husky is known for. Its something like 10mm lower front and back than the gasgas and KTM
hello, somebody knows if we can put a gasgas fender on ktm? thank you
When will gas gas be available to purchase in the US ? I can’t decide if I should get a YZ250F or a KTM/Husky 350/250f. I raced growing up so I’m leaning towards the 350 to grow into cause I could use the extra power after I get back or close to the speed I had when I stopped racing. I’ll never buy a 450 and push the bike to its limit but I would probably be able to use the power that a 350 brings to the table
They are available. I bought the EX350F 3 weeks ago here in Ms. I added the map switch, bark busters, and black skid plate. Coming from a 18 KX450 I’m a lot smoother and consistent and it doesn’t wear me out after riding.
2021 yz250f is fast af and has plenty of power
@@DavidDavid-ft4ry yeah I know and they handle in the corners better too whist by them putting the air filter at the front of the bike, but they dropped the power a few pegs for the 2021’s. I’d get a 2020 if I could find one lol at least in the shootouts they were saying the 2021 yz250f doesn’t pull out of the corners like they were the past few years. Still prob the best bike overall but not the fastest this year
@super dark hood clown I have a 2021 yz250f monster edition and it is the best bike I've ever ridden
For a saving of 800$ Ill take a ktm with the billet triples and the black branded rims, mapping switch and header pipe. They cut production costs, but for the consumer only 800$ saving. No thanks
Chinese wheels is a real bummer on Gas Gas. Could as well put Excel rims on it. Don’t see myself buying a new bike for 8 grand on Chinese wheels.
Exactly...ALL of these bikes are grossly overpriced as it is. Cut the price in half then come talk to me...$10k for a teenagers toy is Fing assinine.
GasGas needs black wheels
nah
Yep - It would look better
@@johnfryman4428 it would just look like a Honda
Great job
Good for ktm but I wish they would've kept gasgas ge way they were. I bought a beta when I heard ktm bought gasgas
I wish Beta would make bikes like the Husqvarna 701's.
Good job on the video. Thx.
Same everything except color. Why not just sell ktms in all colors. Ktm is killing moto with the prices of these things
Killing moto? How?? In the early 2000’s there were 4 manufacturer bikes in the USA. Now because of KTM there are 7. Yeah the prices are insane on their bikes but it does give people more options. I was on KTM for the last 2 years but decided to pick up a 21 yz450f. That’s the beauty of it. We have more options now
But yet everyone is buying one
@@Asaphunnna ya cuz y’all sign on a line and pay 250 dollars a month for 4 years . Sounds way better than a few years ago when you could buy a bike for 5600 0td. Since 2010 bikes have doubled in price
Because every one thinks they can win a race on a KTM. The rider wins the race not the bike.
A Starter. That requires a Battery. Back when we were riding the idea was to shave weight, not add weight, which is why I never understood Water Cooling...just more weight to have to throw around. But back to this Starter thing...riders can't kick a bike any more? Seriously? That soft now?
KTM is not good a force for good in the the dirt bike community. KTM are buying up other brands to reduce competition. This reduces consumer choice and allows KTM to keep their prices high. MAM and other dirt bike magazines should start calling this monopolistic behaviour out and people should stop buying KTMs: the orange ones, the white ones and the red ones.
Amen.
Buycott KTM.
Why worried about? Ktm is not reliable.
Great video
Same girl different eye brows.....
One shaves...the other doesn't.
Very interesting the content and congratulations, but could you put subtitles in Spanish please
Barcia riding it like a boss.
interesting to know sir
will ktm plastics fit on the gasgas if u put a ktm tank on it
Can I put a xc tank on my tc 250?
I don’t get it. What was KTM’s incentive to buy GG? They must be rolling in money. Gas Gas was a good bike, had some flaws but a great motor. The actual GG is now Rieju. They took over the GG patent. Good for them. To me this is another reason to not ride Orange, White or Gg now. Just my opinion
What all do I have to chang to make my ktm a husky?
ITS A BIT TOO LOUD
Is there an hour meter on the Gas Gas?
Is there going to be a gas gas dealer network in the states?
Mixed the sound for Helen Keller
Not really a ktm guy but that 125 is sweet
Ямаха ударение на последнее а? Прикольно, буду выпендриваться.
Thank goodness for KTM or these other brands would more than likely be gone.
Also - It is very good that Barcia has a place to land!
This helped, thank you.
Ok just a couple lil things...
1. Please stop saying Husk-a-varna. Correct pronunciation is hooskvarna but at least say huskvarna.
2. Cast triple clamps, not forged triple clamps. Technically the billet triple clamps are forged then machined, where the gasgas gets cast clamps that don't require as much machining and are cheaper to make.
Can you do a gas gas mc125
Will a KTM seat fit on GASGAS?
Very interesting,
I did wonder why, ktm is doing this, still confused on why, but, we may never really know.??
I would say money, money, money and to be the top seller...Also keeping brand alive
After watching this - just seems like a slightly less costly KTM. Graphics are obnoxious - what's the name of the bike again ?
They look great.For those who don't want to follow trends🤙🤙
Equal in material and hardness a Forged triple clamp will always be stronger, just not as pretty.
Gas Gas has Braktec brakes and not Brembo like KTM/Husky