My new Super Max 16-32 drum sander already having issues.
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- My new Super Max 16-32 drum sander already having issues. Over all I love this thing and it came dead even on the drum and sands my rings perfectly flat but the conveyor belt slowly rides to the motor side. I have a call in to Laguna and they should help fix this issue that is why I am posting this so the tech can see it. Hello Rod S. thanks for stopping by, I need sponsors and cyclone dust collection just saying :)
You must gradually tighten the screw on the motor side until the belt remains centred.
UPDATE: I called Woodcraft and I think they put pressure on Laguna & they are sending me a new belt free and they said that I was doing everything right but as the belt stretches (first two weeks) I really have to keep my eye on it once it stretches out then it stays on track, This would be very good information for the instruction manual as it seems you set it once and done but that is not the case. SO GOOD SAVE LAGUNA (woodcraft really saved ya.) YOU WON ME BACK I will be getting a band-saw from them for sure. Thanks again
You're lucky. My drive belt drifts over to the motor side much more quickly. No amount of adjusting or replacing conveyor belt has fixed it. At least yours is useable.
They drift like crazy until they stretch out, you have to loosen everything and move the belt back over and readjust this sucks but the belt will stretch out and settle down.
@@floridabeardedwoodworker Well, mine is actually the Performax 16-32, the white one, that was eventually bought out by Jet, I think. I've had it well over 15 years. When it was new there was no break in period for the conveyor belt at all. It needed adjustment from time to time, but for the most part, it tracked true/centered for a long time. Eventually, the conveyor belt came apart at the seam, and that's when the trouble started. The new belt would not track straight. I tried every possible fix, including another new belt, turning belt around, running it real loose, none of that solved it. So, it has been in storage for years now. I just bought yet another new conveyor belt and will be trying it again. When it works, it's an excellent tool. I used it mostly for sanding end-grain cutting boards. it's perfect for that. Maybe this new belt will eventually track straight after stretching out. We will see!
good luck my friend.
Eyeing the same tightness on both side, mine drift to the left. It drift to the left so bad I followed the manual tighten the left bolt to the point I think it's way too tight then I loosen it a little bit. I left the left bolt alone and adjusting the right bolt. It seems the unit I got, in order for the belt to track dead center for 10 minutes, my right bolt has to be really loose, so loose I can see the right side of the belt wave up a little.
Mine is about at the 2 week timeframe and I;m going to keep an eye on this. So far, so good, though.
Update: My tracking is still fine, but I ran i to the clicking sound issue that seems to be fairly common;y reported with these. All I had to do was loosen the set screws on the motor shaft coupler and spin it a couple of times, then tighten them back up. It’s actually a common issue with shaft couplers. They sometimes need to be loosened and retightened as they break in. It happens with my CNC shaft couplers occasionally. Overall, I’m really happy with the machine. Anyone should plan on checking things as the unit breaks in, such as the table leveling etc.
I just got my new Supermax 2550 yesterday, so this is really useful information. I'm going to keep an eye on the belt tracking. I adjusted it yesterday as I was setting the machine up, and ran the conveyor for 20 minutes. It is perfect. But the first couple of weeks is crucial. If you don't take care to keep it on track, the belt will tend to stretch wrong, and get a "memory" of the off-tracking, and then it'll be a pain in the patootey for the rest of its life. Like any new machine, you have to wear it in a little and keep making adjustments until it's performing at 100%.
wow 2550 is huge you must have a pretty big shop. Keep me posted with your progress, Thanks for stopping by. FBWW
Thanks for the great Video! The tracking on my 19/38 Supermax has always been an issue. The biggest challenge I have now is the feed roller. The knurled roller is too smooth and it does not grip the drive belt. If I am sanding something wide it works as it should, however sanding narrow pieces or segmented rings the drive belt just stops because the feel roller is too smooth and does not grab the belt as it should. I have cleaned it and brushed it with steel brush, yet the high dollar drive belt from Laguna just slips. Overall I like the sander, but I spend more time adjusting then I do sanding! I would not recommend this sander.
Excellent warning ⚠️
Thanks
Once the belt stretches it is good to go but you have to readjust until it does. FBWW
The sander looks awesome. Sorry you are having issues.
Laguna will help me, Thanks for checking it out. FBWW
Very informative, thanks!
My pleasure and thanks for the comment. Stay tuned I will be back in the shop with lots of new tools… FBWW
Hi FBWW, Great to hear the surgery was a success. Sorry to hear you are having issues with the sander. Hopefully it is a simple fix. Take care Brian. Cheers, Huw
Thanks, I am a new man for sure. I have heard great things about laguna so I have great hopes for it. FBWW.
@@floridabeardedwoodworker I had both my knees fully replaced just over 4 1/2 years ago. The pain afterward was horrible but I couldn't what I do now if they hadn't been replaced as I could only walk about 20' then I would have to stop and I certainly couldn't stand for any length of time. Huw
I’ve had my 16-32 for a couple of months now…Love the machine,but I too have the same issue with the belt tracking…so frustrating
Hi Florida, hopefully you fixed your tracking by now, but if you didn't, you loosen the side of the belt that you want the belt to move to. Try it and I think you will be fine. If for some reason that doesn't work, reverse the belt by taking off the machine and replacing it backwards. Then loosen the side of the belt that you want it to track to. Also, I don't know if your dust collector was turned on during the video, but if it was, get rid of the reducer on the top of your sander and enlarge it.
Thank you for the info....I just placed a order for the same equipment.
Thanks for stopping by the machine is AWESOME all you need to know is to keep a close eye on the belt as you break it in as it will stretch and if you don't watch it it will tract funny and you will frey the belt. but after a week the belt is stretched and tracks perfect and I don't need to adjust it at all. So all in all don't worry its a great machine. Thanks FBWW
@@floridabeardedwoodworker I just stared my new 16-32 and the same thing happened. Hopefully everything will work out well.
Super proud of this new tool...
Started....
Glad to see you on the mend but can't help with the belt I'm afraid
Thanks so much, yea I will get it sorted i am sure. FBWW
I have the same issue with my 16/32. I ruined the factory belt trying to get it adjusted, their replacement belt is $ 80.00 plus shipping. I found a company, Maverick Abrasive, that sell this belt for $ 27.00, they only sell them as 2 belts/unit. Even with shipping my order cost $66.00. I installed one today, same issue with tracking. I had a Jet 16/32 for 4 years, never had a problem with tracking. Enough said!
Once the belt stretches it works great but until then the belt is all over the place and one missed second and there goes the belt.....
You can find issues with ANY drum sander. I have read bad reviews of jet too so ymmv
Brian, give that far side about another 1/8 turn and see if that helps.
Tried that first. Doesn't seem to do much. Thanks for the recomendment.FBWW.
Well, I didn't notice any bad words so I guess I'm either use to them or you got it cut out. I subbed BTW. Wow, if I spent good money for a POS, the company would really get an earful if they don't want to help out any more than that... and make sure everyone knows! Stay safe, Vickie
I dropped the F bomb over the price of casters but with the help of some fellow you-tubers i cut that part out.... trying to grow the channel and curb my sailors mouth... Thanks for stopping by it really means a lot to me. FBWW
Is the lever on the back closest to the motor meant to be upright? Does that stop it?
That lever is for tilting the bed slightly while running a slab that is wider than the drum. Upright when your slab is narrower than the drum. This eliminates the markings that the end of the drum would make if it were touching the wood. I'm also having problems with the belt staying in track.
Thankyou! Yes my belt keeps moving to the outside and tearing 😢
I've had my 1632 for three years now and I'm experiencing the same problem. I bought the official SuperMax belt $108 delivered because I was told other belts simply will not work. This belt is doing just what the others did - it slowly drifts outboard until you have to shut the machine off or ruin a belt. I've been adjusting for two days - measuring with digital calipers first - then 1/4 turns at a time as the manual says. The machine is dead clean and dry lubricated. The bearings are quiet and don't show any wear. Hmmmmmmmm... I need this thing to work too. It's a great tool when it works. Anyone that has a solution out there - I'm all ears. Email and phone messages in to Laguna and SuperMax ... we'll see.
takes about two weeks to stretch out but it will settle down..
I just bought the Supermax 16-32 I bought it from Laguna direct it was used & refurbished However I’m having the same issue my belt keeps tracking to the left “ facing the machine” I have spent hours trying to adjust this stupid thing & Nothing works. I’m getting in touch withLaguna & if I can get this figured out I will let you know..
try doing 1/4 turns right tightening on the side that you want to bring it to and loosen the side you want to get further away. NOTE: YOU WILL HAVE TO KEEP DOING THIS CONSTANTLY UNTIL THE NEW BELT STRETCHES OUT MINE TOOK ALMOST A WEEK...
Haveing the same problems with my new one 2 weeks old . I have a feeling it's the belts .? Maybe there not right
Nope its normal you will have to keep adjusting the belt until it stretches then it settles down, but until it stretches its a royal pain. FBWW
Hey FBWW, any update? Did you get the new belt and did it solve the problem? I’m pending a purchase of this very unit so any update will be helpful in my decision making. Thanks! (and subscribed)
Yes, They sent me a new belt But my old one is working fine. All of this could have been avoided because the machine is AWESOME all you need to know is to keep a close eye on the belt as you break it in as it will stretch and if you don't watch it it will tract funny and you will frey the belt. but after a week the belt is stretched and tracks perfect and I don't need to adjust it at all. So all in all don't worry its a great machine. Thanks FBWW
@@floridabeardedwoodworker Thanks for the video and the update! Not sure I got the solution though: should we stretch it and wait one or two weeks before using it? My concern is that, if we use it right away and the belt starts shifting, how would we put it back on track without loosening it? I don't mind waiting a couple of weeks, just wanted to know exactly how you managed to keep your new belt on track.
Just watch it as you use it the first week or two, there are attached wrenches on the adjustment points I am pretty sure its tighten brings it to the tightened nut and losing make it go away from the nut/wrench. FBWW
Jon Ford WoodWorks just saw a video of him using your same belt sander. I told him to contact you about this thing
Wow awesome I need to post an update, Laguna is sending me a new belt free and they said that I was doing everything right but as the belt stretches (first two weeks) I really have to keep my eye on it once it stretches out then it stays on track, This would be very good information for the instruction manual as it seems you set it once and done but that is not the case. Thanks again FBWW.
just bought 16/32 having the same problem but my belt goes the other direction did you ever get it fixed
YES the KEY is to just watch it for a couple weeks until the belt stretches out than it will work perfect!!!! Thanks for watching. FBWW
I have the same issue
Keep us updated on how this turns out.
thank you I will. I asked for a supervisor....... FBWW
Mine draws right of after 10 pass and iv followed all on line in the book man I'm frustrated
Переверни ленту транспортера другой стороной, может быть она растянулась немного со стороны привода.
Translation...."Turn the conveyor belt over to the other side, it may have stretched a little on the drive side".
Спасибо, теперь он работает отлично, ключ в том, чтобы «растянуть его», затем вы можете оставить его установленным, пока он не растянется, вы должны продолжать регулировать и наблюдать за ним. TFBWW
(Thanks I got it working perfectly now, the key is to "stretch it out " then you can leave it set until it stretches you have to keep adjusting & watching it.)
My 19-38 bearings have gone after 1.5 years. Laguna says they can't help me because I live in Canada. I bought this because Supermax was a Canadian company. Not impressed.
I thought they were American.... I am sorry to here that I really want laguna to be good as they claim to be made in the usa.. I am going for the 14 or 18 bx band saw next ..cross our fingers for a good machine.... thanks for the comment keep coming back. FBWW
Turn your adjusting screws till it runs straight, it is no different than a belt sander to make the belt run true.
Ya I finally figured it out They should have just told me in the instructions that the belt would stretch and I would have to keep readjusting it until it was fully stretched.. It is running great now!! Thanks FBWW.
Ouch, language brother. You get more subs if you keep it clean.
It slipped but really $25 for a caster, if that don't make you cursing mad you are not human. I will try to do better! FBWW.
@@floridabeardedwoodworker no worries. Maybe you will prove me wrong!
I think I cut out the foul language I knew when I said it I goofed... One of my vices is my foul mouth, but I am trying to do better. FBWW
@@floridabeardedwoodworker aren't we all. If you ever want to do some editing, I use DaVinci Resolve. It is free and does a lot of stuff. It can be complicated, but there are some neat things you could add to you your videos.
@@BAILEYWOODWORKS I am trying to learn my vegas pro but boy I give you guys credit for editing... it really stinks lol. Ohh check out the video I got rid of the curse word just cut it out using youtube editor. Thanks again FBWW
Stop calling "problems" issues. There's difference. You have problems with your machine.
Nope they were issues and it works as it was intended now. The only issue I had was they don’t tell you to stretch the belt. You’re gonna have to make constant adjustments until the belt stretches and the pre-stretch the belts that wouldn’t be a problem.