Dowsing For Water & Drilling a New Well, How Much Water Will We Find!
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In this video I take you along with us as we finish up drilling a deep water well to 605ft. Once the drilling process is complete, we carry on with finishing the pump system, installing the submersible pump, trenching to the house & plumbing up the pressure tank & inline water filter under a home. So many have asked for Well Drilling content, so this is for you!
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Had a rancher in our area that was renowned for his water finding abilities. Found me three dry holes and cost me eleven thousand dollars for nothing. The driller felt so bad for me that ( unbeknownst to me ) drilled a well where he thought I should have and hit water at 30 ft. 15 gallons a minute. Best phone call I ever got. Said ,he didn't believe in water dousers!
My grandfather used to witch wells. I said it was bullshit then back then... still say it today.
@@Failure_Is_An_Optiondid he find water?
I stopped by another drilling company cutting a hole last week in a known dry area, they had cut 2 dry wells to 500ft already. I pointed across the rd & said your neighbor has 5 dry wells. The "water Witcher" charged the home builder $300 & was wrong.
@@stlouisx50 Still looking.
Funny how interesting it is for grown men to watch a hole being dug. Great job.
It's the residual 8 year old boy that is still with us.
@@tomp538 I dreamed being able to dig such deep holes as a kid.... LOL.... Growing up, backyard was full of holes everywhere!!!!
Yes what is it about holes in the ground that fascinate us so much 😂
It's called a hole of interest.
dousing does work, found that metal flag pretty accurately 🤣
When some folks showed me dowsing rods like you have there (about 45 years ago), the rods were brass. Just held them in my hands without the bushings like you have there. When I walked over a waterpipe that was under the floor the rods would cross, step backwards and the rods would un-cross; I could stand right above the waterpipe and step forward, and step backward, back and forth. I thought that was pretty cool.
It's always nice when you have a team mate there with you that is in perfect step with you. When you get that rythem going after a few jobs where you dont need to even say a word. You each know exactly what the other is doing and can just keep in line getting things done fast and efficiant. When I worked construction and manual labor doing various things, there was a few people that I would just click with and we would just be in lock step and able to work together, knowing what was needed and could just move along and get things done with no issues or hang ups.
Had my well dowsed, they stopped measuring after 50 gal per minute. Neighbor had a well dug 400’ away 3 gal per minute.
Been Drilling water wells for 23+ years mud rotarty. Lots of koo-koos out there with their two sticks.
I really enjoyed this video. I love your very informative and educational content. Keep up the great work!!!
BBC did a show on diviners 20 years ago. They challenged diviners worldwide to come to their competition and find water. Each diviner checked 20 covered pails, half of which were full, half were empty. All diviners were about 50% right.
I've watched that same show!
@@h2omechanicPails of water are quite different than the earth’s hydrology system. Open minds learn more.
@@Joeandfranexactly, the water is not grounded
@@stlouisx50What does grounded mean here?
The earth is a ground
Next lesson for y’all (them) who can dowse is how to tell approximate depth of water. For them who doubt, not all can do this, don’t ask why just a fact.
I dowsed many wells and never had a bad one in my business. I also could tell the depth fairly accurately.😄
I’ve used wire rods to find many water pipes and drain lines works every time I found pipe in my father’s yard he forgot was there
Pair of Blown Big Blocks with some new outdrives. 👌
Try with 2, then try with 1. You can follow the rod along the line. Just keep it pointing straight forward. It will even turn around if you keep going forward past the end.
We have had good luck witching over the years. Drilled a pile where others failed. Mostly overburden here don't get much water out of rock and if you do it need a lot of treatment. Good vid I like seeing the controls on the rig.
Lots of work, knobs, and do-dads. Thanks for sharing.
You guys shur do things differently from us boys in North Dakota. We drill hole well Case well with a screen and pour sand down outside of casing to filter out any fines and pump rest of hole with bentnight and of course we use pitless units because of the cold frost everything is at least 7 ft below surface
I dowsed my own well. My well guy wouldn't. He just came out and dropped a flag according to the open tree line. He recommended someone to do it. I didn't want to pay for it. I was able to find 2 crossing readings. Marked a "x", he drilled over it. Hit water at 240 ft. Drill to 300 ft. We got 15 gpm. But I was scared. It worked out. I saw videos were guys claim to tell you depth and gpm. I am not that good. But I am a believer in dowsing. I have found sewer mains and water services with it. I am a Plumbing Contractor in Oklahoma. Great job!
I really enjoy watching your videos and have learned a lot about wells in the process. Please do not discredit yourself with dowsing videos. As a kid, I was taught dowsing worked with metal rods and some type of tree branches. I could not figure out why I could not get it to work. Luckily, the internet came along and the BBC competition that others have mentioned. Dowsing is just BS based on ignorance (lack of knowledge) and the fact in many areas you are likely to hit water just about anywhere. Unfortunately, not where I live and I learned this lesson the costly way. It makes for cool entertainment, there is just nothing scientific about it.
Great video. Very good description of drill layers and water levels
Nice to hear you logically reasoning about dousing. I think local well depth, elevations and topography knowledge is probably more reliable.
Привет коллеги из России! Я тоже бурильщик, и мне интересно посмотреть на вашу работу. Мы также работаем с воздухом, в районе Уральских гор. Конечно у нас другие машины и компрессоры, но принцип работы одинаковый. Также шумно и грязно. Биолокация иногда помогает в поиске воды, чаще используем геофизику. Удачи вам!
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Hello colleagues from Russia! I am also a driller, and I am interested in seeing your work. We also work with air in the Ural Mountains region. Of course, we have different machines and compressors, but the operating principle is the same. Also noisy and dirty. Dowsing sometimes helps in finding water; more often we use geophysics. Good luck to you!
Well the dowsing rods did find water at 1-2gpm.... Though who's to say you wouldn't find that no matter where you drilled on that property.
to find that out, drill where they didn't cross and see what happens.
Love watching these videos.😄😄😄
Love watching these videos. Been in the drilling distribution business almost 10 years back in 2004 when I started for a company called Preferred Pump out of Texas. We had a branch warehouse here in Minnesota and worked out of that one. Learned a lot over the years and miss it.
Yea, Grundfos just sent 2 ppl from Denmark to the Texas distribution facility and they flew up here to meet with me a few weeks ago. Truly nice people! They are talking about flying my to Denmark to tour their facility there.
Great Show!
Love your knowledgeable videos.
Cool video Philip, thanks.
There was a million dollar reward for years (the guy offering the reward was since died) for anyone that could prove dowsing worked. Nobody was ever able to win it.
well he found water.. just because it didn't have a high flow rate, does not mean he didn't find water
Some valuable two cents.
12:00 - wow I have never seen PVC glued together with that large of *DIAMETER*
Holy cow look at that glue
I use a forked stick, fresher the better and hold both ends with both hands at 90 degrees of end of stick
Rods pick up the earth magnetic feild, anything blocking that will give a pull on the rods.
If the dousing rods were held in a plastic fixture with levels...I would consider the findings more valuable.
That would be a good way to test it
I work in the drilling industry doing geotechnical, environmental, water well drilling. Every site we drill is thoroughly located for underground utilities by a locating company before we drill. We keep a set of what we call witching rods but the same as dousing rods on the drill for fun and can find utilities in the ground using just the rods. I have found utilities in the ground and then had the locater find them in basically the same spot using ground penetraring radar. Don’t know how it works but I proven dozens of people wrong on site haha
Do yourself a favor and get rid of the copper rods find a fresh green willow branch that at lest 3/8" thick an in good Y . Hold the 2 arms of the Y one in each hand with a bit of a tight grip an wrist twist. You get a reallt strong bend strait down when you walk over a big stream in the bed rock. An a crossing of another. Then you can walk around that spot to pin point how many streams cross that point. I done more for dug wells 20 to 35' deep. That runs in a seam of corse gravel or white sand.
Hi sir thank you for the videos you make. i have been Learning a lot and on dowsing it really does work i have done a couple of borehole and so far i hade were good Success right. And i am from south africa . But again thank you for the videos
Just asked the Ouija board and it says dowsing works. So there you go you doubters.
Ive always wanted to try willow limbs for dowsing.
that pond looks like the pond from one youtuber who made one where he had make an artificial dam along the tree line like it is shown here.
but that would be a crazy coincidence right?
I want a rig truck like this!
Can you show a pitless well? That's all that's allowed in my area, would be cool to know how they work.
when they cross stop and straighten the rods you and say out loud how far down is the water. count in what ever numbers you want ( 10' ect) and they will cross at the depth of the water. yep sounds crazy but it works.
Very knowledgeable content and easy to watch i subscribed
Thanks for sharing, amazing stuff. Do you guys always have to go through a bedrock?
Thanks for the education. So it's proven again, the rods work. What I understand is it's possible my new neighbors could be draining my pond that's 500 feet away? I noticed it's been easy down and down much faster after a rain. What's the furthest a pond could be affected?
Fascinating!! I always enjoy your videos. I do hv a question: how would the well be affected by termite treatment? Ty
Please split dowsing off to a separate channel. I really enjoy watching your well videos, and really respect your knowledge and professionalism, yet I find myself avoiding watching your videos because of the bunk in the thumbnail and title... Don't take my comment the wrong way, I really appreciate your videos, and will keep watching while skipping the embarrassing (dowsing) parts.
It's a few minutes... not an entire video.
@@Failure_Is_An_Option even the thumbnail is off-putting to be honest. He was very fair at the end about it, too... But, while I typically watch every video as soon as it's out, I've skipped a few of the recent videos with the dowsing rods in the thumbnail.
@@AlecKristiSame mate. It's just bullshit. Depending on how you hold your hands the rods swing that way. It's bullshit.
@@AlecKristi I get what you are saying. I even agree with you.
What is that copper looking stuff you put on the threads? Thread sealant? Anti-seize?
Why did you not set the short piece of steel casing like I have seen you in previous videos
@22bnightrider once we pass 60ft we use metal on the bottom. If we set 50ft, it'll just be pvc.
is there actually a level indicator on the panel or just eye ball it?
Are there companies that can do underground surveys to see if water tables are present kind of like searching for oil, it seems like in last 50 years or more nothing has improved in finding water it is always a crap shoot!
Anytime we get a pipe we get it with the Bell and if we need a coupler we cut that Bell off and that's my coupler
I’ve been working for a driller in eastern Michigan for the past 3 years, Working on getting my license. But I was wondering if you get any salt water in the ground out your way?
I have been using dowsing rods for years,and I find it helps ( I can't explain why ) to concentrate on what you want to find. ex. water, pipe, electrical, or whatever it you want to find.
On the cutoff pipe we keep those bells will you turn them into couplers
H20 MECHANIC... I want to drill a well on my property in SW Pa. and my property is located over a old coal strip mine from 1912. According to the DEP/EPA the coal seam is 100' below the surface. Guess they put cover/overburden back over after they were done mining. Can I drill a well? Any thoughts would be very appreciated. Wells around my area prob average 100-200' Pretty easy to get water usually. Thanks!
when i was younger we had a dowser, he used willow branches, you would drive to his house pick him up, take him to the property let him do his thing give him a $10 and maybe a meal if it was meal time this was 40 years ago, dad's well 110' brothers 140' mine 125'
When you set casing for a well, is it possible to use a packer or boot on the casing to help it seal into the bedrock? Just curious if that is possible or practical.
I really am interested in drilling wells I already know how to work on pumps I had an electric motor repair shop and rewound many motors single phase and 3 phase anyway how did you get started I would work for cheap to learn from someone experienced
What determines the depth of casing pipe? I’m assuming there are many variables, but is there a rule of thumb?
are there a public resource out there that show how deep wells are dug in a given area? or is it just info kept by the drillers and i need to start making phone calls? im looking a buying land and have no idea what i might need to budget for a well. thanks for the great content!
If a well company came to my house with dowsing rods, I'd turn you right back around and find an actual professional
You must be new here.
Yupp. After the last few vids where he shows that he can walk around with 2 sticks that move when you dont keep your hands level, he is done for me. It's pure bullshit. They tried to prove it, it's always been a 50% chance. So bullshit.
It's not like he ignored the owners - he drilled right where they wanted it basically. He was just doing it for kicks.
@@firefly2472 that’s one way to let everyone know you didn’t watch his videos or listen to a word he said, instead you decided to be a dipshit that assumes and talk out of your ass.
@@wayjamus2775 you can’t reason with stupid people
I feel SO LUCKY.
I inherited a 48 acre parcel thought to be Dry Land. The Historic Spring had decreased from 1200 gal a DAY to just 300.
No need to witch it. Only one spot where a rotary well rig could set up at.
Fortunately it was at the confluence of a plateau where 2 mountains about 500 feet higher summits came together. I ended up bottoming about 880 feet below both summits
Drilling started at 915 am. And by 400 pm 45 gpm at 360 feet.
I decided to do """another final 20 feet"" ....and another 8 / 10 gpm hit 12 feet into final 20 feet at level 372. I cut it off at 383 feet
While I hit bedrock at 50 feet, I still elected to PVC case and gravel pack it clear from 383 ft bottom to the 30 feet surface bentonite/ concrete surface seal. .
On day of drilling Static level was 103 feet.
The 3 hp submersible pump was set at 360 feet to prevent sediment from covering the final 372 foot hit.
The foreman strongly recommended a full gravel pack with the pump set just above final 8 /10 gpm hit to avoid sediment covering it up over time.
EXPENSIVE but I understood the reasoning behind it.
The day the pump was installed static level had risen to 90 feet.
Then 5 000 gallons a day pulled up at pumping rate of 35 gpm. About 3 months later a bedrock blow out into the gravel packing did occur ( cloudy water ) with another 10 foot rise in static level to 80 feet. The full length gravel pack saved what could have been a catastrophic event.
I'm pumping 35 gpm;
With 5,000 to 7,500 gallons a day pull out. Absolutely NO CHANGE in static level at 80 feet; even when pulling out 35 gpm.
In a area where 5-8 gpm would have been considered a gusher..........
MIRACLES DO OCCUR !!!!
But....I did ""dry up"'" neighbors 2 springs. One a 1/4 mile away. The other 1/2 mile. Along with another neighbors marginal 5 gpm well 3/4 mile away. My geologist explained that the aquifer was under pressure and bedrock fractures brought water to surface. And my well blew out the pressure needed for them to pop fluids to surface 😢😢😢 ( not really )
I truly hit the Lottery !
Are most wells plastic casing now? I used to live next to a well driller and every morning at 6 a.m. I'd wake up to the clank of the metal casing being stacked on the truck for the day. I don't think he ever used PVC.
Good wake-up alarm system
Even if it doesn't work, sods law I'd drill through something important just for being dumb enough to try it lol.
Phillip. I need your help with a 24" bored well.
Why don't you grout around the casing as soon as it goes in and before you drill with the 6" bit? Just curious.
If dowsing doesn’t work, what made the copper rods cross?
The idea is the a break in the ground disrupts the natural magnetic pull in that specific area, it doesn't mean there's water, it means there is an anomaly underground. Dowsing has been proven to be 50% accurate. But 95% of water wells provide good water, so logically people perceive that Dowsing is a proven tool to find water, it isn't.
How do you drive with the post in the middle of the bumper?
Keep the dowsing rods in the truck for the next one 😂
What r u in ? we drilled well one came up salt water dry hole then we got water 100 foot from the house
Have you worked on a 36” wide bored well
Would you drill in Eagle Rock no for 250,000?
Why do you use PVC for casing? Where I live all I have ever seen used is steel
Cost
What kinda pump do I need if I need to go at least 90’ down.
A good brand 1/2hp 10gpm
You fancy boy . Throw them store bought rods in the trash. Strip you some scrap 12 wire bend in a 45 and see how much it freaks you out when you can feel the wire twist in your hand. Lol
hello sir where about in Va. are you located I'm planning on moving to Va. from NJ and have bin in and out of the trade for over 25 years
If anyone could help that’d be greatly appreciated. My pressure tank takes 10 minutes to fill from 40psi-60psi with no fixtures running and if I run any fixtures the pump can't keep up with the water going to the pressure tank and will drop to 0 psi and I have to use my low water cut off switch to get water back. I turned off the valve right after the pressure tank leading to the house and it holds steady pressure in the guage at 60 psi which makes me think there's no leak in well line or well pump. I had someone out to check the pump and they said it's reading 5.5 amps which they said is correct for my 1/2 hp submersible pump and all electrical seems to be good in the control box and switch
Anyone have an idea of what might be happening ? I do have a lot of sediment/iron in my well, is it possible the pressure tank, 1/4 nipple or well screen is clogged with sediment?
Thanks
I am considering drilling a well.
First of all, no one around here for miles with a well
But I did hear some water running at one time, and I doused it and it said water a stream,
As there was a long line going in one direction
I have to drill this myself, since i do not have the funds to hire someone.
Can you tell me how i will know the difference when i get water.
I am following close to an idea seen online,
And with this method , they said you can go down a few hundred feet.
But I have only the funds to go possibly 80 feet,
I know there is a few ponds around with some clear water, on the surface,
So i would expect, water to not be too deep.
Any suggestions or advice,
Will i be able to sink a hole down 80 feet, then drop my casing in without it expected to collapse
I made a bit that water can be forced down to the bit, and a top piece to inject the water /
and am using 3/4 black steel as my drill rod
And after the hole is done, I plan to use that rod to bring the water up with.
I did note a fellow several miles from me has a shallow well and they have the best water around.
Most house are several miles apart.
Should i use a clay mud in the hole while drilling to help holed the sides of the well while drilling.
Or can it be done safely or should i suspect a collapse,
Soils around here a basically clay
Was that an eagle flying?
Hawk maybe?
I'm trying to come work for you.
I was wording when drill do you ever find gold
Question: bought a pump Hallmark Industries MA0414X, 110v. I’m down 110’, water is at 80ft. Says at that depth I’d get 20/40 pressure. I have a 50gal pressure tank set to 36psi and a 40/60 pressure valve that I’ve lowered as low as I can. Unfortunately I’m only getting 10psi. Any idea why?
Yea, because that pump can't lift water past 40ft deep, your water level is at 80. I have tested pumps just like yours and explained it. Remove the pump, send it back and go buy a quality 10 gpm pump. If a pump says 160ft max head or 30gpm it's not ment for a well, it's ment to go in a cistern because there's no head pressure
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Here's the Hallmark pump test.
Read the reviews online and you'll see other state the same thing. It's 100% the pump that's your issue, you must buy a good pump or at minimum one that over $450 10-12gpm
Thank you! I was afraid that would be the case. I’d like to throw it down to 130’. I have to be thrift with it, but what would you suggest?
@Shofar2324 I'm not sure what your budget is, but I sell a 115v 1/2hp pump on my website that I know will work all the way down to 130ft.
What’s this ‘prime’ water everyone is talking about?
"Well box"
would like 2 c the labels lower on ur panel. peace
Time to steam wash equipment...😅
Whats your price per ft?
I actually saw someone use dousing to find a buried water line and he nailed it 🤷♂. I have no idea how it works, but it seems to actually work 🤯. But I'd also agree with your (or maybe it was another commenter) 'you don't miss it by a foot' statement when talking about well drilling. Looking for a buried pipe, yeah, I can see that, but drilling a well? Not so much.
awesome job , i had one question why did you sealed the bottom of the first pvc casing
thank you in advance.
Diviners made (and still make) money off of how ignorant people are about what aquifers are and how they work. Many people think they are just localized springs.
We saw one the other day using his hand & says the center of his pale gets warm. 5 days later & 2 500ft dry wells he claimed the driller missed it by a ft 😆.
I think people just want to believe in something (a force) they can't see.
I believe in dowsing as my late father did it a lot. With the stick and the rods. But I don’t understand. His road went apart as they came across a vein of water. Every video I see on You Tube they cross.
Make a jig that holds both handles parallel to each other at all times. This way, if the rods really do work (and you are tipping them without realizing it) the rods will still cross. Does that make sense? If they don't work then each rod will or should go in the same direction as the other.
Dowsing does work, I know many people that are 100% . And they are in limestone granite country.
Dowsing doesn't work. It's total bunk. Been proven over and over.
Works 100% for me, used it for tracing a few water mains.
You're fooling yourself
he found water though, just not flowing at a fast rate.
😂 just so you know?? They do work BUT like anything in this world it’s not 100% fool proof!! A worm tunnel filled with water “can” set them off. They sence a void when I was many many years younger they were spot on in my older dinosaur days?? It’s a hit and miss. But when you have absolutely no idea where a tile of water line is buried?? Sure beats digging up a 1000 acres😂
You have your head in the sand. I have done hundreds of wells. 2 out of the 3 well drillers here. Just pull into a property an set up there rig just any were. Problem is under ground water runs in crakes in solid bed rock. The steel cassing must be pile driven into solid bed rock. A weld on drive shoe is welded onto the first 20' 8" x3/8 wall. This seals off any ground run off water getting into the well. No need for any concret or clay back fill. I got into Arguments with these 2 wheel drillers as I have marked off 2 to 6 spots were there 2 or more water vain crossings. An left nothing said to these drillers until they set up. They refuse to be leave me. I tell them fine you drill here to max 200' and if your dry you will stop drilling an plug it an move to were I tell them an if they hit water in less then 200' you don't get paid for your first hole f up. Boy are they pissed when they hit water at 65' an 10gpm. The 3rd drilling company go to the site way before there eqipment an use the same green willow branch I do that in a Y shape an witch the same spots I did with out me giving them any info. Just a red tape on a 3" nail 1" under the dirt I marked. I had 100% bang on for 62 years. No dry holes . You can miss a vain by 3" an not get water but a 1/4 stick of tnt fixes that
The guy that we use to find leak detection when he does witching if it's windy out he uses sticks that are in wooden handles and if it's very bad he will rest his thumbs on top of the rods. Just ever so slightly. And he can find a crack in a water pipe every time I call him Mr. Witch
Do the copper rods work - maybe? Thanks for another great video !
I know dowsing works, because I have used it, to locate sewer lines. I have two theories on how it works. The first is that different densities, underground, give rise to microscopic changes in gravitational values. The second theory is the different densities give rise to variations in the earths magnetic field. How either of these effects then move the wires, I still have not worked out a theory for yet.
Junk
25:12....When you say 'anomaly' what anomalies are they .Also ,the dousing-rods are copper or do they have a ferrous-core .Out here in the desert ( the Morongo Rez. ) there are magnetic 'anomalies' which can propel a car in neutral up an incline .The Fed. published a small paper back book in 1934 mentioning something about them .( I found it looking in a house that burned to the ground ,) but the info was obtuse and didn't really describe them . Thanks for showing how your business works !! ...