(AOT) A reflection on shock value, morality, and human nature- Video Essay
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2023
- I wanted to preach at you about attack on Titan and the whole point of the show, as well as some dead characters
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Also thanks for 1000 subs and a 100k view video, enjoy the ads losers - Krátké a kreslené filmy
The Jaden-core bg music is perfect
Bro really understands AOT more than 99.999% of aot viewers. Great video.
I appreciate that!
@@collateral8920 Keep up the good work. I am subscribing.
Alot of people understand it it's the ones that say it's overrated or mid that don't have a brain
@@lifeisberserk9566 They are totally mentally retarted. I meant that that most of them don't understand the "depth" it goes to
Bit of a shame you didn't cover Zeke's side and his own snake. Personally I see his vision as being the safer path for humanity as a whole, as it completely removes titan's and their warfare capability's. Not to say the plan is a happy or nice one, but it is the one that would leave humanity in a better place as apposed to Erin's plan to wipe everyone who is not on the island out.
I agree, I’ll definitely go if zeke and his plan at some point on this channel!
100% under rated, even though its 2 weeks old, i was surprised when i scrolled down to 7k veiws, i was expecting about a million. +1 sub
But maybe the snake doesn’t bite. That’s what I wanted Isayama to explore. To me the greatest scene in season 4 is Willy’s declaration of war and Eren’s attack, precisely because of how its shock value deceived me. I found myself rooting for a mass murderer because I was caught up in the same mentality: “You say you’ll kill me and my people? Fine, I’ll kill you first”. But later I realized that through that sudden attack on Liberio the Eldians lost one last opportunity for a peaceful resolution: because yes the international diplomats who were present, applauded the declaration of war, but what about the rest of the world? They had just been told that the Eldian threat had been a lie, that until Marley’s attack nine years earlier, there were no Eldians scheming to flatten the world, because the power lay in the hands of a pacifist bloodline. If Eren didn’t attack that night, the world- which also distrusted Marley, mind you - might have reacted very differently to Willy’s reveal. They didn’t invade Eldia, after all, why should they go along with Marley’s destructive rhetoric? But Eren’s attack was enough to finally unite the world against Eldia.
Like the real Armin said: “There must have been another way”
It all boils down to the fact that Eren wanted the war and he wanted to flatten the outside world. It also leads to very entertaining results!
@@collateral8920 Let's not forget that Eren was predetermined to do what he did, adding another layer on the debate of the morality of his actions.
Man that is simply not the case did you forget that Willy specifically mentioned how the Tyburs have been improving relationships world wide simply put had Willy been allowed to live he would have contunied to stir the pot and Paradis still would have been razed to the ground by a International Coalition
@@odasengoku7314 politicians aren't the only voices in the world
@@marinecomponentvandefensie5351 yet look at our world for comparison, all of the wars we have waged, most of them boil down to the deceit and lies told by a few to stir the pot and breed hatred against another group of people
there were no nukes in Iraq and yet hundreds of thousands of people died for this
yes they aren't the only voice but hell if their voices don't speak loud
yeah except isayama sells whole eren's character for some shock value in 139
That typo worked cuz thats the only reason i clicked on the video lol
Eren also did it to ensure his friends will live long and free after him. He said it himself in season 3: “I would give my life in a heartbeat if it meant I could save Historia from a cruel fate”
This won’t age well
@@collateral8920 Hmm, I'm not an anime only and am aware about "10 years at least" simp Eren and what he did to Carla.
But If he truly did it for 100% selfish reasons to make his empty world dream a reality... then why did he leave his friends with Titan powers? No titan powers for them means Eren 100% guaranteed wins and its dream come true.
Why did he go out of his way to antagonise Armin and Mikasa.... but worked perfectly fine with say Zeke and Floch? Why bother waste time talking to Armin in Paths, only to say "Bruh, there will be no negotiation so don't bother"?
Leaves them with free will. Antagonises them. Forces them to fight him.
Then when you combine his past statements from S3 and S4 ("I love you guys" to his friends). The pattern seems to be clear.
This mf recreated the "Helos" legend from the last Titan War. But this time Helos is real and its his Paradis buddies. This allowed Armin to finally have the legitimacy (same as Willy Tybur once had) to negotiate a peace deal with the outside world and Yeagerists which lasted decades. Therby ending the previous deadlock that prevented any talks.
If you watch the first video on my channel it goes over my views for why I believe Eren was not doing things for his friends
Eren outwardly admitted the rumbling wasnt the only way to save his friends
Damn that snake analogy was good! Loved it! ❤️
"It allows you to selfreflect on your own capacity for evil."
Me, nervoisly sweating because i would have gone 100% with Zeke's plan, no hesitation: "let's take 'em balls!"
what a coincidence! i was thinking of starting my own video essays on different anime and video games and stuff! love your video, and the neutral perspective you have! i agree with it all!
Erens motivation never changed, he said he was gonna kill everything outside the walls. In the beginning it was titans, now its everyone else we know. As far as Eren is concerned nothing has changed. Whatever the scapegoat was he wanted it to not exist.
Uhg that's so shallow an interpretation, why oh why do people believe things like this? Cries*
thay quote at the end was crazy, matter of fact the whole video was amazing, you truly understand the whole of AOT👏
You are doing really good job talking to and understanding our audience.
“Never underestimate humanities infinite potential for malice”
With this you've earned another sub
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eren had no choice but to start the rumbling peace with the outside world was impossible as told in the story.
this is crazy underrated
Woooooo a collateral vid lets go my day is gonna be goood
That's really good to hear, thanks for watching!
@@collateral8920 your very welcome. ❤️
If Collateral has 100 000 fans, I’m one of them. If Collateral has 10 fans, I’m one of them. If Collateral has 1 fan, it’s me. If Collateral has no fans, I’m dead.
Appreciate it!
If Collateral has 0 fans, You were secretly reiner and somehow survived being erased from existance again
Bet
I agreed with Eden, the rumbling was nessasary to keep his people safe from the outside world, so they could finally have peace. But then when the rumbling started and I started to see the cost of peace, I changed my mind- by then it was to late- the cost of peace was far to high. And I had to live with myself and at what that decision wrought.
congrats on 5k!
Thank you!!
Sub earned my friend
Wow. I am really enjoying your analysis videos. Do you happen to have a Discord or a way to DM you? There are a lot of subjects in Attack on Titan I'm interesting in hearing your thoughts on. Either way, great video!
One of my top 5 favorite shows ever
Blood in AoT isn't shocking or gory. It's realism.
It’s realism but how isn’t it gory? You got plenty of body parts tore off on this show
2:24 ketchup according to you
was that light of the seven for background music i think it sounded great whatever you where using.
I wish youd make more content on other anime as well. I really like one piece for some reason
I’m still at the start of one piece so it will be a minute before that, but I have plans to talk about other anime for sure!
@@collateral8920 good to hear haha I'm looking forward to it
8:25 Damn...
Bro I agree I think there is deep down a version of us that is selfish🐸
Besides Petra, I didn’t like Squad Levi. Purely due to their trust issues with Eren at the start
I’m mean at the end of the day they were kind of right not to trust him lol
Why does the snake thing remind me of Adam and Eve….
You’re on the money!
It’s not so simple eren doesn’t see it black and white he knows the true horrors of the world he knows that they will never stop killing his ppl so he really has no other choice it’s not about killing the snake it’s about protecting his loved ones
I 100% disagree that Eren's actions were unjustifiable, I think they were very much justifiable. TRULY
Bruhh you are gonna be sad when you see the proper ending.
You want AOE?
No way I was watching aot and twd when I was 12 too wassup twin
imo the 30 year plan or whatever it was called would have almost certainly worked if eren and zeke went along with it. once eren attacked liberio it was all over.
Imo, Eren ACHIEVED HIS GOAL which was to give HIS FRIENDS a chance for a LONG & PEACEFUL life without war because war was coming for them no matter what! This definitely includes Titan-users because they only have a lifespan of 13yrs (eren, armin & even reiner and others)
Seeing how Eren’s character developed, it’s obvious that he knew the cycle wasn’t gonna stop. He couldn’t care less anymore for the future generations of humanity, the only thing that mattered now was HIS FRIENDS’ FUTURE. As seen in the ending they did live their LIFETIME in old age, including Mikasa 😌
Man there is so much I think you have wrong here, I'm at a loss if I even want to get into it :(
I've talked about it so much over the years, but I really do think you misunderstand Eren if you think he really he just selfishly wanted everyone dead. How can they think this about you, Eren, my boy 😢
Yo check out Android 17 at 7:35
Eren is not a monstrous psychopat you Invaderzz enjoyer.
With all the RetCons implemented since the manga returned from Liberio, the worst ones in 139 (Eren killed him mom just to see some water), a lot of stupid people suddently forgot the rest of the story.
I would end AoT right when S3 P2 ends, anything beyond that is a mess and it was clear Isayama retconned in the last chapters just to reach the mythical 139
13 years for each shifter, with a total of 9 shifters
@@theredstarr8965
sorry, I don't enjoy subpar story endings
@@_Circus_Clapped_ 🫵🏾👉🏾🏕️
Don't you know the ending of AOT why eren did what he did, he finished his goal he set from the first episode spoilers ahed!
He removed all titans powers from the world never to return again all the marley didn't die many of them survived.
He did the right thing he didn't kill the people for his personal hate against them , he had to he was fully aware what awful thing he is doing but it had to be done so it can never be done again
and yet it happens again
@@marinecomponentvandefensie5351 what
the first video on my channel goes over the ending if you want to know my stance, also did you see the last page, the titans come back lol
@@NeonParadox_--_ what
@@collateral8920 wasn't just a big tree on the last page I don't know what you're talking about man