AM2R: The Fandom's Defiance | GEEK CRITIQUE
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- On Metroid's 30th anniversary, Nintendo left it up to the fans to commemorate the occasion. And when that fandom produced something the Big N wouldn't, the company responded... poorly.
HUGE thanks to Milton Guasti himself for being so willing to answer my questions. If you'd like to see our full exchange, here it is, but you should DEFINITELY watch the video first as the text spoils a lot: pastebin.com/qAaMVFA0
Almost all of the music in this video is from the Metroid tracks from Smash Bros, the Metroid series, or AM2R itself. The "Sweet Dreams" remix at the beginning is from this INCREDIBLE Sonic fan short. It seemed appropriate: • Sweet Dream - Short Film
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You certainly earned your 25000 subscribers with quality contents, not just this video. For that, congratulations.
I really appreciate the honesty and hard work put into this video. It's disheartening not being able to update the game anymore, but it's awesome to see people enjoying it.
Hearing these kind words from Metroid fans makes me forget about the Nintendo situation. After all, fans are the intended audience, and their approval makes all of our sacrifice worth it.
Thank you for taking the time to play, enjoy and share your thoughts about AM2R.
DoctorM64 I wonder if anything would change if this game of yours would find its way into any of the designers at nintendo serously has anyone even considered sending a flash drive to Myamoto or someone else well known at nintendo a copy of your amazing game?
DoctorM64 Congrats on making a better Metroid than Nintendo and thank you for making this.
+DoctorM64 You are a God. AM2R is my second favorite Metroid game. While it sucks that this game can't get any better because of the DMCA, this game is already amazing, and you should be very proud. Thank you so much for giving us such a great game, and such a great way to celebrate the 30th anniversary of something we all love. Cheers to more Metroid greatness in the future!
Out of curiosity, has your team thought about using what you have learned to make your own original Metroid-like game? You know, like how a Sonic fangame maker went on to create Freedom Planet and the guy who made Super Smash Land is the lead developer of Rivals of Aether?
Matthew Vitelli this comment exactly. Do an original metroidvania please.
Oh my god if they did Another Super Metroid Remake, the abriviation would be ASMR
just beautiful
ASMR:Mother brain tries to get inside your house.
There should be a mod pack called ASMR ASMR.
Steven Gates Nintendo should make a remake in my opinion. Not because it’s a bad game, or anything like that, but to let a new audience find it and access it more easier. Should also add a tutorial and an option to turn it off. They shouldn’t change the graphics much, and explain stuff easier, and maybe add a new game + or something.
Edit: also fix the wall jump and space jump because it’ll take time to get used to it, and also probably add in the power grip or something.
Steven Gates well actually there is a fan remake in development which I’m a sprite artist for
Well, there's FSMR. Although it kinda looks like it died 3 times or so, and got picked up again by a whole different team each time. Not sure of any of the screenshots from previous versions displays any up-to-date content.
"A year after the release of AM2R, Guasti announced that he was hired by Moon Studios to work on Ori and the Will of the Wisps as level designer. He also announced a spare-time project made in Unity 3D." From wikipedia
He worked on ori???? No way I'm so glad he could make that it wa ss9 good
That’s incredible
So that's why it was so good
@@Brentonius_III I wish Nintendo hired him for Metroid though that would have been a lot better
@@2dmetroidfandom579 I mean dread was pretty damn good but they could have easily played him well and took his game and just upped the graphics instead of making their own that wasn't as good
They got it second time but
"The last metroid is in captivity.
The galaxy is at peace"
Goddammit I loved that ending
"The last Metroid has escaped. The galaxy is no longer at peace"
“The last Metroid was hot garbage. The fandom is not at peace.”
Yeah, that was relieving... If the beeping from my low health stopped, that would've been nice as well.
Super Metroid: so yea about thaaaat…….
@Israel Brooks And fusion mode.
"It would be nice if the Metroid Queen had another attack."
AM2R 1.3.1 (Fan Update)
- Added a new attack to the Queen.
- Updated the game to have HD audio coming from the Soundtrack Milton released. (Was apparently going to be part of an AM2R update)
So, I guess you got your wish ;)
Im fuckin sorry?! Where the fuck is it??? Hook me up with the link please?!
"I feel like looking at my old comments again... wait, new version? HAH! The C&D couldn't stop it after all!"
Seriously, thanks for that link man, I've been meaning to return to this iteration again!
What update idr a new attack, I have the last update so maybe I'm just not observant and missed her new attack.
@@fleefie thank you soooo much!!!!!
@@nascour5991 she basically got a huge version of the zeta metroids acid spit. They revised the omega and it combos you! There's a fusion mode that's twice as hard as hard mode.
There's something I just noticed about the tester boss in the tower. The tower in the original Metroid 2 had a room where it held every beam in the game, letting you choose what beam you wanted to progress with, but that room isnt in AM2R. Instead it was replaced intelligently with this biss, and this boss directly references the original beams by its 4 different beam attack patterns representing the ice, plasma, wave and spazer beams. Very well done replacement and reference to the original game since the beam upgrades function very differently in this game.
That first escape sequence with the overloaded core was pretty fun for me. The thing about the door losing power as you enter the room and the only way out being to blast your way out just filled me with such an overwhelming sense of dread. It was like being in a Saw movie, where the only way out is to do something dangerous, painful, and otherwise very stupid, but you gotta do it or else you're trapped forever. The only way out is something that may well kill you anyway, and I experienced a similar sensation in Metroid Fusion when I knew the SA-X was ahead of me, but it was also in the way of my only route to the next area, and I knew it would chase me, and I knew if it got me, I was done for. That's why I love that moment. That sense of dreadful tension knowing I stepped in something bad, and I'm not gonna like my only way out.
Actually it seems like all SA-X Chase sequences are avoidable. Even the one at the Reactor Core, although I'm still not sure how.
@@ehx3419 The SA-X will stay down there until it starts chasing samus
@@blanca-borb Oddly enough, I kind of remember seeing a video title in my recommendations that was implying getting past the SA-X at the Reactor Core without being chased. I don't know how that would work, I might've bookmarked that video though.
Personally, I think it would be better to more clearly show the player what's going on - if the room, for instance, lost the ambient noise after the door closed, and had the lights dim or go completely off, that would communicate that there really aren't any more convenient options to get out. Have the door lose its glow, blah blah blah. Have a codex entry update spell it out, if you need that too.
My point is, communicating that Samus has no clear way out helps put you in her shoes, and might make the moment feel more desperate and claustrophobic ... Until the countdown starts.
Hehe dread
AM2R's survival is proof of a concept as old as time itself: once something appears on the Internet, no matter how hard you fight, no matter how many sites you block, no matter how many copyright infrigments you make, it will never dissapear, because in a time it will take you to eradicate one copy, at least 5 more were already made available
You can't stop the signal, Mal.
The un-nerfed omega metroids are crazy hard. I can see why they put out a patch to make them less ridiculous
hirumaredx this isn't WoW content, this isn't WoW content at all! What are you doing here, friend
Honesty thought previous iteration (gamma?) was harder. Omegas just took so damn long sometimes I died due to impatience.
I just recently played the game, but had the original DL. I was still able to beat the game, but damn those guys were damn near impossible at first
Yah, It took me 12 attempts to beat the first one. Wouldn't have been so bad if you didnt have to explore a cave and kill a regular metroid each time before you could try again.
I'm also a huge metroid fan
i think it is really worth mentioning, that even if Nintendo did end up taking down years of his work, this project did land DoctorM64 a job with Moon Studios working on Ori and the Will of the Wisps. i dont know if he took it or not, or how long ago that news even came out, but i just saw it on the AM2R site, that he was offered a position with them.
just wanted to state that here (on a well over a year old video) mainly because i dont see anyone else doing so. helps us to know all his hard work on AM2R wasnt a waste.
www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/02/the_project_am2r_creator_now_designs_levels_for_the_ori_developer_moon_studios
It's true.
Oh shit!
He took the job. If you look closely at the credits of Will of the Wisps, you’ll see Milton’s name under Level Design.
glad to hear it! Though I posted the comment before the game came out so I had no way to know then
Why would be it a waste? Its not like he can monetize them? All dmca done was to hide the game but it is still downloaded and will never ne deleted from the internet. You are all overdramatic.
I don't comment on many videos, but I had to abruptly stop watching this for a moment, give this one a like, and come down to the comments to express my appreciation for something I hardly ever see. At around the 12:00 mark, not only did you acknowledge that you actually read comments on your videos, but you went on to address a fan's feelings towards one of your videos, and explain what they pointed out that you missed. I cannot express to you enough how much that makes me feel valued as one of your fans. You've earned yourself a devoted new follower today, TGC. From the bottom of my heart, I appreciate you.
Yep, reading the comments and getting into some discussions is one of my favorite parts of this whole process, and I'm thankful that my work attracts the kind of insightful people who actually MAKE a CZcams comments section worth reading. I regularly have to manually approve comments that get caught in CZcams's spam filter, because someone's written a multi-paragraph response and CZcams doesn't think there's any way something that long can be legit.
The Geek Critique Honestly, that's phenomenal to hear, and I really think that'll take you far in your chosen field. Fans tend to congregate around those who make them feel heard, and you've definitely shown that you hear us, haha
@@GeekCritiquePeople now literally saying you’re wrong about 2006 being the year Sonic should’ve died and that Sonic X and merchandise were always going to keep the franchise alive!
15:00 So, I've been playing a lot of AM2R since Samus Returns came out and I noticed something as you reach the end of the game. I'm not sure if this is in either the 1.0 or 1.1 version of the game, but after defeating the final Omega Metroid, during the quake that lowers the acid, you can faintly hear an angry, high-pitched roar in the distance. I can't say for certain, but I think this is meant to imply that the tremors that continually lower the acid are somehow caused by the Queen Metroid's rage as you slaughter her children. How that would be possible I can't say, but it brings up a note that your favorite comment mentions: in the Game Boy version of Metroid II, the Chozo statue in the Breeding Facility is smashed and destroyed, hinting at a greater intellect at work. If the Queen has high intellect, perhaps she has deep emotions as well? The idea of Samus committing genocide is a lot more terrifying when you realize (at least one of) those creatures is self-aware.
I think that was always the implication; that killing a flock (school? gaggle? cornucopia?) of metroid causes the mother to thrash about, and being so large and practically embedded in the walls of the planet depths, she causes the acid to rise and fall. You can actually hear her roars as early as the Distribution Center, as I recall, though far more faintly. A lot of fans would claim this was the intent in the original game as well, though AM2R certainly makes that fact more.... visceral.
A BROOD of Metroid?
It's a lot more obvious in 1.4.1. Check it out.
Another thing that would’ve upped the scare factor. The green crystals that block your access until you get the baby Metroid? Those are crystallized versions of the X.. Samus was next to them the whole time...
that thing is huge and also has been putting out metroids which eventually become omegas. i think its strong enough to hit the walls so hard an earthquake happens
I just recently discovered your channel and binged so hard
Matt James ikr
Same here. I've been binging video essays in general recently, to be honest.
Matt James me too
Same. Watched Metroid, DK, Sonic, Sonic Hacks, and Smash Bros over the past two days all in a row.
same
"Sega does was NintenDONT" has never been so true like with fan creations
super mario 63 and smash flash 2
You mean letting the fans make the good games instead of doing it themselves? Yes, they do.
@Ricky Nuggets this is the kind of response that an insecure fanboy with no capacity to accept Nintendo's mistakes would make
It was a lot more true when Sega was forced to drop out of the console market
I mean sonic become garbage up until sonic mania. Im glad nintendo does not do what sega does.
"Sega does what Nintendon't." Sega has always attempted to set themselves apart from the competition.
1. Nintendo tried to block any game enhancing devices (i.e., Game Genie, Action Replay, Game Shark) from its consoles through legal action while Sega embraced them. Nintendo fought back by redesigning their consoles. I can't help but think this legal win for the gamer may have saved the SNES.
2. Nintendo tried to block the rental of its games at rental stores, yet Sega embraced that, too. This included a test where Sega would give re-programmable Genesis/Mega Drive cartridges to rental stores so they could download a copy of a game so they wouldn't quickly run out of their 5 copies of the newest AAA title. However, this never went beyond the test market.
3. Nintendo removed all blood and fatalities from the SNES version of "Mortal Kombat" while Sega allowed the inclusion of blood through a code. "Mortal Kombat" sells better on the Genesis/Mega Drive. Nintendo has a change of heart, and produces the better version of "Mortal Kombat II."
"Mortal Kombat" on SNES was shit because of input lag, unfaithful physics and shitty music. All MK series on SNES have horrible music.
ButcherGrindslam I thought the music in the Mortal Kombat games on snes was really good.
@@ZironOfTime It sounds like shit - always of of tune. Just compare it to egyptian orchestra playing terrorussian anthem.
Modern sonic disapproved this
I shall debate you on this matter, fool
It bears repeating: Without you, I never would've discovered Metroid.
And it bears repeating not only because I never would've encountered what is now my favorite game franchise...
... but also because I never would've played what is my favorite game above even Sonic Mania and Sonic 3&K - this game, AM2R.
Seriously, I can't thank you enough.
honestly, i got chills in am2r's ending
ItsRulo! ikr
I got chills not only at the ending, the power bomb kill of the final boss, the throwback to the infection in the intro of fusion and so sooooo much more!
Am2R more like ASMR amirite
ItsRulo! Me to the "the last metroid is in captivity the galaxy is at piece" is beautiful.
I just cried manly tears the first time I read it.
So amazing.
Starts the video: 43 minutes.
.... Well: This will be fun.
43 minutes later:
Yes it was fun.
Bass-D C I didn't even notice it was 43 min long until I saw your comment after I finished the video
Bass-D C so Well said this will be fun?
To me, that's the hallmark of a video with true quality. Being so good that you honestly don't mind or care to watch it, regardless of it's length.
insert name here i was about to make the exact same comment haha
(Smacks lips)
Welp,
(Smacks lips again)
Thats cool for the game design, but its incongruint with my head cannon about the fuZZion suit being light weight...
“fuSHHCLion suit”
I love how the screen shakes when he says "FuCCCHion"
FuSsszzioUzzon (spit flies everywhere) suit
To whomever it may concern, as of July 30th, 2019, AM2R has been updated and improved between it's release and now, and has even been made into an Android mobile port that you can download, and it's all thanks to the fans of both Metroid and this remake. As of now, the game has had a few tweaks to the Metroid fights, and includes the following content as of now: Fusion mode- a new difficultly mode (which works similarly to Samus Return's version), New Game + (which lowers the lava of the game dramatically to allow for more exploration at the start), and Random Game + (which is about what you'd expect). If you haven't tried this game out yet, now is the best time
Eh, the original was good enough. I'd rather not play a tarnished pile of garbage made by people who aren't game designers.
@@MajorasWrath1 How about you check it out first before you start talking smack about changes you haven't even experienced yourself
@@MajorasWrath1 Expedite yourself from the premises, field plow that resides over yonder!
How can i download this for my android?
@@rodolfomendoza7161 Launcher creats .apk file.
"Sega still does what Nintendon't"
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNN
This video is the first time in my life I didn't cringe to those words.
because they deserfe the burn for their stupidity and their stubbornness... you know what... for all i care the switch should be boycotted unlesss they hire the pokemon uranium and the am2r teams to do games for it respectively and promise to embrace the fan game community... because that would really REALLY make the switch worth
Nintendo doesn't deserve to burn because of mistakes they've made. By that logic, every company should burn for poor decisions they've made. Look at EA.
Well Is kinda difficult that Nintendo hire them, and not because is STUPID not to hire them but making games for consoles is not the same as making games for PC. Only PRO's make console for games, and by pro's I mean, people with a REALLY REALLY REALLY technical background in computer science. WHY? Consoles, are less powered than PC's and the people that make the game have to manage the resources they have in the best way. There's commercial game engines out there to help indies, but Nintendo is not the kind of company that relies on game engines made by other people, and is easy to understand that because most of their games run at 60 fps in a shitty hardware.
Of course there's other indie games that are on 3DS and Wii U made with Game Maker and Unity. But those are CUSTOM BUILDS made by the companies that made the engines, and to request that they need MONEY, so that's why those games appear first on PC, and then on CONSOLES.
Christian Whitehead did not made PORTS of the SONIC GAMES, he actually coded them all and using reverse engineering ended up with a GAME so exact that looks like a port. He used his own engine made in 3 years called RETRO ENGINE and using reverse engineering of the SONIC roms, he took the sprites, and analized the variables of the games such as SPEED and PHYSICS to use on his engine writeen on C++. I remember reading something about it back in 2009, and luckily I found his interview, so if you want to check it out.
toucharcade.com/2009/07/29/christian-whitehead-on-sonic-cd-and-his-retro-engine/
Nintendo is very picky with indie developers, SONY takes 2nd and the least one is Microsoft (Of course they encouraged and practically started the INDIE WAVE along with VALVE and NEWGROUNDS back in 2006)
Christopher Alan Sosa Mejia whew. they're gonna need a burn heal for that one.
A fun tidbit about the Metroid Queen; You can actually kill her with regular missiles or super missiles, or even regular morph ball bombs. Using a Power Bomb is technically an easter egg. She just explodes into tiny explosions with anything but Power Bombs, which is hilarious in its own right.
Tommy see I didn't know that you could use power bombs like that, so my jaw hit the floor when he finished the queen off like that.
Honestly, the game should have gently nudged the player into realizing that you should use Power Bombs, because that ending is much more climactic, memorable, and sets a better pacing.
Tommy Curiously, the easter egg came from Other M, where Samus killed a cloned Queen with a power bomb.
Tommy Curiously, the easter egg came from Other M, where Samus killed a cloned Queen with a power bomb.
I had defeated the Metroid Queen with the Power Bomb because I accidentally fat fingered it in a panic when it grappled me in its jaw. When I saw what I did I was like....whoops! Its a nice touch!
That ending though. I actually pointed at my moniter and yelled "OOOH THAT'S GOOD!"
Now that I finally played it, AM2R is actually legitimately my favorite game of all time - and not because of anything sentimental, no - _just because of how good it is._
The best part of that explosion sequence is that the airlock that got blown open only has a hole that is about the size Samus is width-wise, meaning she got blasted HEADFIRST out of that airlock door, which makes it way way funnier to me than it should be.
DreadnoughtDT agreed XD
That self-destruction sequence was the best part of the game for me. I had assumed I'd be able to get away from it once I reached the elevator (for whatever reason I assumed that lol) so I took my time going back because I thought I'd be just fine.
Then I reached the elevator and as it was going up I realized... "Wait... IT'S NOT STOPPING?!!" That made me go so damn fast through the rest of the sequence I thought I had totally f*cked up. The temperature was almost full, I was reaching the last room and thought "Ok good I'm gonna make it." to enter the last room and to see those two gates sloooooowly opening and tear my heart apart. I really thought I had f*cked up that sequence and was gonna die.
Then the explosion and to my surprise Samus was laying on the ground with 5 hp left. It hit me that it was a scripted sequence. The way it happened to me was just so soooo good. Those 5 hp left getting you by surprise is an absolute joy of a moment. Seriously, if you ever watch a friend play this game trick them into thinking the explosion stops at the elevator or something. Make them desperate to get away because it makes the experience so much better.
It must suck for the players that get hit and die from that one enemy between the escape and the nearest save room
Well, if you go back into the destroyed power plant, all of the enemies are gone and there's a free Energy Tank to refill you down there.
That's true! Though I think the first thing on players' minds when they're sitting at 5 HP would be to go and refill/save after such an ordeal, instead of re-entering a zone that has proven to be scary.
I will never stop being salty about what Nintendo did to the fruit of the hard work and dedication of *_its very own fans._*
There's a pattern to these fan project shutdowns (I got this from a video, although I don't remember what one exactly), basically if Nintendo is going to do something, and a fan project is already doing it, they'll get it cancelled. For example, AM2R is a Metroid 2 remake, Nintendo got it stopped, and announced their own remake a couple of years later.
v trees well, Nintendo is probably stealing their ideas because they’re too lazy to make their own ideas.
It’s called protecting your IP.
@@VerbeekTruther because Nintendo's ownership of Metroid was totally at threat.
Prophein X it’s not just ownership, it’s how that IP is presented, handled, and, frankly, monetized
really impressed by your production quality. I thought for sure you had millions of subs before I glanced down at the subscribe button. give it time and you'll for sure definitely get there
Fancy seeing you here! Love both you and TGC's content.
God bless you
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Upon revisiting this video, it strikes me that something should be pointed out about the difference between Taxman and Milton: Taxman put together his version of Sonic CD and then *showed it* to SEGA, offering to make the game for them. He essentially applied for a job in a very unorthodox way. Milton, while he did fantastic work and is a wonderful person, did not approach Nintendo with AM2R (at least, not that has ever been said about it).
I can't say if Nintendo would have done the same thing as SEGA given the circumstances, but the point is that Taxman applied for a job, Milton made a full game of someone's IP behind their back and released it to a titanic audience. What the other minor differences are, legal or otherwise, is up to other people to talk about.
UmbreonMessiah Nintendo has a track record of relentlessly hounding fans on all matters of IP. Sega doesn’t. Why ask for permission when it’s just going to draw unwanted attention from the wrong people before your project is even off the ground?
@@LeQuack147 Don't make projects based off other people's copyright if they do not wish for it to be.
yeah,dont make fanart,fanfiction.Dont show the game on youtube because its based on existing IP.Great thought
@@Kutikyla I am sorry if its a realistic take on the situation that offends you. I am just speaking the truth on the matter. If you don't want to deal with this kind of situation, the winning move is to not play. There is no debating this. id software worked on a prototype of Super Mario Bros 3 for PC and Nintendo (while liking the quality) didn't want to go through with it. id then created their own franchise in Wolfenstein and DooM. Can you really see id being well known developers if they were only known for the PC port of Super Mario Bros. 3 that was C&D'd?
TL:DR
I am sorry if you are offended that we don't live in a socialist society BUT use that to your advantage and go create the ultimate homage to where maybe you will become the next Toby Fox.
It' isnt about that.Sure Nintendo have the right to take down fan projects. It's about making good and bad move.Just look at Valve: they hire moders to make games for them, allow make remakes and sequels for their beloved games without taking them down and ad to that sell them for money.
Can you imagine Nintendo do that?I cant.They claim it hurt their IP
So tell me, what hurt IP more: what Valve do or what Nintendo?
And im sure after lackluster sales for Samus Returns we know the answer.
P.S And "make your own game then criticize" argument is very childish.
I'm new to your channel as I stated in my previous comment., but after watching this video I think it's easy to say that this is your magnum opus. The 40 minutes breezed by and you capped your Metroid season off beautifully. Thank you so much.
I've been binging your videos dude I just found this channel and it's great. Legitimate critique, insight and analysis about Video games without fanboyism, swearing or whining? Yes please!
saaaaame
Samuel Baugh I recommend Raycevik. His documentaries are very insightful, while still being humorous.
So, first up, this was my first "Metroid" game, if you can call it that, which, even before the video, I am positive you can. I haven't beaten it yet, but I can say without a doubt it is an amazing game. Second, it takes a lot for me to sub to a channel, more than most people. I try to keep my count low so I'm only getting the Crème de la crème of CZcams content. That said, after watching this playlist until this point, I honestly feel that you are a channel worth subbing to. There are only a few channels I have spontaneously subbed to, and that's because of their sheer quality or how I relate to them. These analyses are so in depth that it feels like I can have a real opinion on the game - not quite as if I played it personally, but better than if I read a review or watched a couple videos. They are informative, funny, well written, and, though not very concise, somehow very to the point. So, enjoy your new viewer. You've earned it. Keep up the amazing work.
Also, I definitely did not fight a Terizo with wings. That is not what happened. I would know. I GOT THE SPACE JUMP YESTERDAY. I WOULD NOT FORGET THAT FAST.
That said, I think I'm gonna keep this video tabbed for a while, beat AM2R, then finish it.
Oh, and to correct myself, I was wrong. I just wasn't good enough to beat the Torizo's first phase. I got close a few minutes ago. Can I just point out how annoying it is that I can't minimize the game, watch a video while eating dinner, then go back in?
Alt+Tab is your friend.
@@MrQueen8488 Agreed. It is definitely worthy of the true title. If Nintendo released a version to purchase, that would be on my list. It's that good of a loving recreation.
Even now, this episode still hits me in the feels. Everything that this video covers is amazingly done, and I could not be more proud of this channel.
Chorizo? Really?
At least Samus won't run short of breakfast burritos.
Torizo*
My canon is superior here.
Well, it could be Chorizo, comming from an Argentinian. That would be interesting, Samus fighting meat products from becoming colon cancer.
Will Mistretta It's actually called a Torizo.
It’s Torizo, it’s a play on words of the Japanese “tori” meaning bird
As one who payed AM2R without the patch (because I didn't know about it and my download didn't have it) I will tell you that Omega metroids were absolute assholes. I died way too many times and just about gave up. After I got past them though it really soured the end for me because I was just wanting it to end.
Hmm...I never had that exact problem, usually when I overcome such a hard boss it motivates me to go further and makes beating the game more satisfying...
I found the Omega Metroids a source of off-pissing since I didn't find them that hard, but they'd keep killing me with cheap shots or blocking my shots.
I have a full playthrough of this game on my youtube channel from my livestream ( _voiceless_ ), but suffice to say.. I don't like AM2R.
I'd go so far to call myself a Metroid II Purist in that regard.
Darksiege357 I managed to figure them out but they took way too many missles on hard mode.
It just dragged on for minutes.
4:04 I just realized, after watching this video at least 10 times, that “no copyright law in the universe is going to stop me” is a sonic colors reference
10:32 "Guys, you can see the morph ball, turn around" That moment broke me. it was amazing XD. also thanks for letting me discover this lil jewel~ It's such a fun game ^^
The title for Samus returns has to be: Nintendo strikes back
Genesis and the whole section with the GF Ship is more a tribute on the filmseries, that metroid was inspired - Alien.
The Logbook Entries and the entire surface design resembles so many alien references and designs.
Way too easy Omega Metroids? Play the game on hard - it's pure suicide
SSJ3MetaridleyXros Yeah, I'm surprised that (at this point) as a new Metroid fan, he hasn't picked up on that or at the very least mentioned anything about this connection.
SSJ3MetaridleyXros to me... hard mode is the TRUE Am2R experience. It's just so.... perfect
There needs to be an expert mode. Hard wasn’t too bad.
Cato there does. I would love for an expert mode to happen with 10x more stuff!
It's hilarious how Nintendo could have espoused AM2R as a monumental marketing opportunity and pay tribute to all Metroid fans in capitalizing on the wealth this game would have brought them had they sold it digitally via partnership with Milton and his cohorts. But alas, NO, it didn't happen, but then we were all bestowed the revelation that a remake, Samus Returns, was in full development by Mercury Steam for the 3DS, which is a commendable remake, don't get me wrong, but Nintendo's wrath to quash AM2R stands as a testament and ultimately a blemish to Nintendo's continued demeanor in being a less than fan-friendly company, even though they market themselves as under the paradigm of being "family friendly". But, Nintendo could still make amends and allow for AM2R to come digitally to their Switch game store, so hopefully the new NOA, Doug Bowser, is paying attention to marketing potential of such a prospect.
That's exactly what I thought! The smart business practice would've been to seize the project and sell fo the fans, hiring the creators to develop more projects.
@@juangutierrez673 It's a free game, the creators of Am2r don't make any money from this.
I can't find a spot where you mention it, so I feel safe sharing this. When you're in the endgame and about to find your first Omega Metroid, you can actually HEAR the skirmish between in and the rescue team off in the distance in the next room as you come up that sloped hall before it. Absolutely amazing detail work in this game. Almost as amazing as your Metroid breakdown series. Keep up the great work, man
And that's why metroid fans consider am2r as cannon as the rest of the franchisee (except for other m). As you said, it deserves the "metroid" title, wich only 6-8 other games in history deserve. Thats awesome
I still see Other M as canon tho.... bit of a shitty storyline but canon nontheless
Shadey Mcbones Yeah, although Other M is my least favorite Metroid game, it IS canon.
If it wasn't, Fusion wouldn't make as much sense (Neo Ridley, Adam, etc.)
yeah, + despite the story being a bit meh i still enjoyed Other M, sure it was a bit more linear compared to other metroid titles and the 3d movement with a d-pad was a bit hard to get used to, but i liked it none the less, but yeah it Is my least favorite one in the series
Shadey Mcbones the problem is that other m's story is made in a way that uncannonizes the prime series (sakamoto himself wanted to reject the way it builds samus' character) and rewrites key parts of the classic games (ignoring samus' relationship with the chozo, changing her feelings about the metroid hatchling, killing the hyper bean part (Mother brain kills the super metroid with it in the new cutscene) and even making adam a different person than the exposed in fusion), so it basically creates its own version of the timeline just for itself. There is a blog that explains this deeply, search "Mother, may I play metroid other m" if you want
I definitely consider it the canon version of Metroid 2. And for me, it will be the last Metroid game ever. Well, further fan games aside. Because of this situation Nintendo is now on my permanent boycott list, meaning I will never buy one of their products again. Even if they make a really good new Metroid game (which won't happen anyway), I won't play it.
What's amazing about AM2R, and another reason I'm incredibly disappointed at Nintendo's stupid decision, is that AM2R actually brought a lot of people to the Metroid fanbase...
While that is possible, Nintendo probably thought it would take attention away from the recently revealed Prime 4 and official Metroid 2 remake.
+Colin McGreevy Which I understand now, but they were _trying_ to keep the games under wraps. All the rumors pre-E3 not only sounded bullshit, but turned out to be bullshit. The most popular rumor was that Retro was making Prime 4 while at the same time overseeing Climax Studios, the Silent Hill guys, make another 3D Metroid. There wasn't a word about an official Metroid 2 remake.
But it more than likely that those people only got into Metroid through am2r through the all the fuss people were doing because of its take down. So if they didn't get taken down, then it would have been overlooked by non-fans. And even if they didn't, once Samus returns was revealed a lot of people would probably have seen Am2r and decided that they would rather have the free version instead. Because most people not in the know thought that Samus returns was a straight remake and not all that different so it's likely people would assume am2r was good enough. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation since people aren't buying Samus returns because of the fuss with Am2r.
Playing the "free version" has stopped no one from downloading roms and video games. If someone doesn't want to pay for something they wont. Such a ludicrous argument to make. .
Yeah. AM2R would have done nothing to hurt Nintendo. *Nothing*. It only did good things to boost the popularity of the franchise. Boosting the popularity of the franchise will bring in more mooches, yes, but it will also bring in more people with coin to spend.
14:35 It had the opposite affect for me, personally. I found the constant metroid fights more interesting precisely *because* they're more challenging, have variety in their attacks and defenses, take place in all kinds of locations, with or without hazards, and sometimes appear in groups.
21:15 The second torizo in Super Metroid does the same thing when you blow a hole in its chest.
I know it's been a year, but I really wanted to thank you, and thank this series. It pushed me to finally try zero mission, fusion, and yes, even super metroid. I love these games after playing them, and I have to thank your fantastic reviews for finally pushing me to play them! Keep critiquing man!
With the announcement of Metroid: Return of Samus for the 3DS, I am starting to understand why Nintendo did this.
They may not have wanted a free fan remake to overshadow their own game.
especially when the fan remake is better seriously though it was shitty of them
Tough shit, because it does, and fuck them. If you don't want a fan game out there, issue the cease order early. Don't wait 10 years and issue it days after it's been released. That makes you a fucking arsehole.
@@TornadoCreator they probally waited to take it down so people could download it before they took it down
@@TornadoCreator What would have been even worse is waiting 10 years and issuing it a few days before its release.
@@A_Wild_Egg It was in the video, but Nintendo threatened to pull their sponsorship of the Game Awards if AM2R and Uranium weren't taken out of the running. I wouldn't doubt it if Nintendo seriously didn't know about AM2R, and only learned of it's existence by the massive praise it was getting.
Solution: use the Freedom Planet gambit. Make a Metroid fangame and change just enough that Nintendo can't dick you over.
Also, if Nintendo were to steal AM2R and sell it themselves, I will argue that makes it acceptable to pirate everything Nintendo has ever made.
Alex Snitzer I wouldn't say it's a solution when the entire point was to directly remake Metroid 2. Let's say Zero Mission doesn't exist and all we get is Axiom Verge. It's a great new look at Metroid 1 with a 100% different setting and story. But here...it HAS to be Metroid. It's not just proving they could make a Metroid-LIKE game, it's that they can make a TRUE Metroid game.
Assuming that they "steal" it as opposed to "buy" it...
Retmoid?
Perhaps I am just starved for decent Metroidvanias, and pissed about the obvious dick move from Nintendo's lawyers.
You mean like Axiom Verge did?
I had never heard of ya until this morning when I was scrolling through youtube recommendations, and It was the video in the series about metroid prime. You had the note about seeing the rest of the series before watching that, so me being the huge metroid fan that I am, decided to do just that.... A few hours later, I've finished a marathon session of watching these videos about you playing through these games, and it was cool to kinda live through you going through the series for the first time! Everything felt super genuine too and I absolutely loved it. I haven't hit the subscribe button so hard for anyone in a good while! Thanks, dude
Your content is just so good man. In addition to being detailed and informative you have this positive vibe that shines through literally every video. Me and my family have fallen on rough times and watching your video game content is some of the most encouraging positive energy I've received.
My own personal interpretation of the lava level dropping after you kill all Metroids in an area. The Queen knows you're killing her babies, and through some rage induced rampage, is triggering the earthquakes.
Evidence: After you kill your first Omega Metroid and the earthquake stops, you can HEAR the Queen Metroid roaring in the distance.
Ooh, I like this idea. Headcanon accepted. :3
Prime series next?
AgentFlea yes please
Prime 1 was the first Metroid game I played and finished on my own. I barely glimpsed into Super Metroid, but was too young at the time to appreciate the gameplay and got scurred by the ambiance :P) I would love an in-depth look at the Primes :D
Yep, along with all of Retro's games.
that would be lit
Your Metroid series videos made a a fan out of me! I think I watched all of them in a span of two days! Lol. Thank you, thank you!
It brought a lot of clarity to what to what gem the franchise is and highlighted the passion of its fans :).
Keep up the good work!
I’m replaying through Metroid after my first Dread play through (fusion was my first), some of these games I haven’t played since I was 8. Just finished AM2R, after playing Zero Mission for the first time, with Super Metroid on the horizon. AM2R really pulls the second entry into the spotlight for me. I absolutely adore this game. A fan game worthy of a main series placement. If you want to experience the entirety of Metroid, your best bet right now is Zero Mission, AM2R, Super, Fusion, and then Dread.
All this sega praise at the start and all i can do is cross my arms, scowl and say: Phantasy Star Online 2.
Just reading that name is still salt in the wound all of these years later
I'm encased in a solid block of salt because of that game.
Don't forget Chromehounds.
But isn't that From Software? During 4th Gen Armored Core?
Jackpkmn Sega ran the server for Chromehounds which is where they got the system for Armored Core V but they up and just shut them down without any real notice besides on a unofficial forum site on week before mind you this was out before Armored Core 4
43, minutes.
I was debating subscribing before. but this seals it. Take my sub.
God, that opening speech of how your fandom and the support it gave for you to excel to the point you are now was done so cleanly in transitioning to how the fandom of Metroid made AM2R... and how Nintendo’s philosophy, quote, “doesn’t see it that way.” You turned what is normally a “Hello fans, thank you for your support, now here’s the video” pep talk to a bit of the script that follows the whole controversy surround Nintendo and its fandom with AM2R. It’s little bits like that in a video or writing that just makes me absolutely love your videos man.
Aww, thank you so much! Yeah, I put a lot of effort into making sure I got that opening as pitch-perfect as I could. :D
AM2R is the Metroid game everyone really needs...but according to Nintendo it's the Metroid game no one really deserves.
Yeah, yeah, SEGA don't mind Sonic fan games, Sonic Mania was made by rom hackers, etc, etc.
But they still DMCA'd Streets of Rage Remake and I'll not forgive them for that!
Its still the only thing they DMCA
Wasn’t Streets of Rage a third party?
DotEmu are making Street Of Rage 4 now.
Even if they did, it's been back up no problem since quite a few years ago
Don't forget how they shut down all the Shining Force III playthoughs.
Sega Does... whatever the fuck they want apparently. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, the thing against AM2R was... infuriating to be mild about it. I downloaded the game, checking each day for updates and bug-fixes. It was as good as if not better than first-party Nintendo games.... which might have been some of the problem there!
The biggest issue here is that Nintendo refused to do an update to Metroid 2 and basically abandoned it to the ether.
Not only that but the AM2R developer made it clear NUMEROUS times that the game was not sanctioned by Nintendo and also did not make money for him.... yet Nintendo still yarped about it being created!
Ridiculous!
Christopher Kidwell yah they were making a remake of there own.
Nintendo pirates CZcams videos that fall under fair use. They are constantly trying to steal earned money from youtubers by getting the monetization from the video. Nintendo are the biggest pirates out there and only deserve to have their shit pirated.
@@propheinx2250 except that CZcams thing no longer exists
@@sebastiancintron29 yeah, but one must not forget how much they over indulged their hypocrisy.
I can’t believe it’s been 4 years since you uploaded this. If it weren’t for your Metroid retrospectives, I don’t think I would be a fan of this complex, thought-provoking series I hold so dear. Thank you.
As a lifelong Nintendo fan, 2015 and 2016 were the low points for me. It felt like the company had lost its way. Many of Nintendo's titles during the Wii U years were either pedestrian and lacking ambition, or just plain bad and flawed in their design (I'm looking at you Star Fox Zero and Paper Mario: Color Splash). It was during this climate that AM2R released, a fantastic game in its design and reverence to the series. Nintendo's last two Metroids had been horrific, and this was everything most of the fans wanted. Fast forward to December 2018, I'm glad Nintendo is back on its feet. They've released some fantastic titles in the last couple years, announced 2 new Metroid games, and their own Metroid 2 Remake was pretty good. Anyway, thank you for the excellent breakdown and critique. I just wanted to emphasize the climate in which AM2R was released, not just for the Metroid franchise, but the company in general and the fanbase.
Holy shit I love this game. I knew you had to do this. I was able to get a copy of the game before it got striked down by Nintendo. And jfc it was GOOD. They should hire this man and release this as a game for the Switch or Wii U or 3DS.
It's a real shame Nintendo tends to hate it's fans with passion the moment they don't just throw money at them, but instead start creatign somethign to celebrate the fandoms.
You can still get it via torrent. Like nudes, it will never truly disappear as long as the Internet exists.
Oh I have the 1.0 version already stored away, grabbed it before DMCAs got issued. Nintendo's attitude towards all fan works is just apalling though.
if you google "am2r download" you can grab it from the first google link you see, its even the updated version
I got it a few weeks ago(It really is ridiculously easy to find), but now I must seeketh out 1.0. Them Omegas were too easy.
With the recent news of Metroid: Samus Returns, the DMCA makes sense. Here's the main thing, since they were making their own remake of Metroid 2, we now know that AM2R would have been DIRECT competition for Nintendo with their own IP. Why buy Nintendo's official one when there's a fantastic fan remake out? Luckily it seems S:SR and AM2R will play off each other nicely. The fan game is an evolution of the GBA game style brought to Metroid II. The official is Metroid II brought up to a modern idea of what it would be on 3DS, complete with modern touches like free aiming. I was irked that Nintendo shut the project down, but seeing this e3 and that announcement makes it fully understood why. I really hope Samus Returns does well, if it does, more official 2d style Metroid games could be in the future.
AM2R would have (and will have, as it is still around despite Nintendo's questionable efforts to suppress it) had zero effect on Nintendo's official release's sales. If anything, as Geek Critique himself mentioned, AM2R just enhanced the Metroid fanbase and created more potential customers for Nintendo's official release. Instead of embracing and applauding the efforts of the fan community and the response of the fan base to AM2R, Nintendo shit all over themselves in fear because they can't make anything close to the quality of AM2R and made themselves look terrible in the process. Samus Returns is not a "2D style" Metroid game in my book, it looks nothing like the games that fans have known and loved over the years.
You move left and right and jump around, sure sounds like a 2d style Metroid to me. Sure the trailer showed other angles, but the graphics are 3d, not the gameplay. Nintendo also can't let a dev team work for a DECADE on a game to make something as polished as AM2R, one has to take the circumstances of each game into consideration, both games don't exist in a vacuum here. I also seriously doubt they shut it down in fear, I call bull on that. AM2R was out in the open for at least 7 years (I followed it for that long), and not only have there been multiple demos that were left alone, but the game was covered MANY times by gaming sites, it was no secret and it was impossible that Nintendo didn't know about it for a while. But to each his own. The gameplay I've seen of Samus Returns looks great, the people who played it at e3 had positive reactions from what I've read and watched, so I think it will be just fine. Even DoctorM64, the GUY WHO MADE AM2R is excited for it. AM2R is still around, I have it and love it myself, and I hope Samus returns does well, after the flops of Other M and Federation Force, it (and Prime 4), I don't know if the Metroid series can survive another flop. Of course that's not saying buy the game if it's bad, but I have seen nothing that indicates it will be.
Grob bley pretty sure it is a 2d Metroid
Grob bley trust me Nintendo can make way better than AM2R. You are just salty they took it down.
Time will tell. AM2R was better than all of the existing Metroid games other than MAYBE Super Metroid, and the Nintendo that made those games has long since passed. Their last two Metroid games have been garbage. The developer of Samus Returns is MercurySteam, the same company that made the pretty mediocre Castlevania Lords of Shadow series that was criticized for being very different from the classic Castlevania games. Samus Returns may technically be a "2D" Metroid game, but it doesn't look anything like the existing 2D series when it features things like the gimmicky melee attacks/counters and 360 degree free aiming. I may be wrong and Samus Returns may be better than AM2R, but I highly doubt it at this point. The way that you assume that it will be just shows that you are a blind fanboy. I think it is you who is salty, because Nintendo is afraid to allow something like AM2R to exist because they know they can't live up to the standard it set. Unfortunately for them, AM2R is still alive and well, and is still receiving updates by fans even if it isn't being updated by the original developer.
Thanks to these videos I’ve gotten into the Metroid series and bought super and zero mission to play and so far they are great thanks for making these.
AM2R was my first Matroid game I beat fully through. I always had nostalgia for Metroid as I had played the NES version as a kid and got my butt handed to me. As an adult I came across this game, played it and then went on to play a bunch in the series and bought actual licensed games.
AM2R made me a fan of Metroid games. Too sad Nintendo (and other companies) don't get they hurt themselves not letting fans do stuff like this.
honestly after you fight enough of the metroids forms it get so much easier as you progress, from your own skill improving and even getting super missiles that ends them much quicker(roughly 2). i didnt find it tedious, since thats what the goal of the game is, to kill them all, not find them all.
Nintendo Just announced Metroid Prime 4 for the Switch and a Metroid 2 remake for the 3DS. Can you make a video saying how F-Zero is in a dark age, because we need another one of those to ;)
tino768 This announcement gives striking down AM2R new context. Allowing this could’ve hurt the sales of their remake.
@@mikenayers5981 nahhh, not really. If Am2r cost money, then I'd under stand, but the only thing am2r did was build attention to the series as a whole, and likely would've boosted the sales of Nintendo's Metroid 2 remake anyways.
@Xandolf 2
Would you really buy a remake of a game if you easily could get another remake of the very same game for free?
If you say yes, well thanks for joining me in this lonely corner. So would I, but we're like 50 among thousands with that. The rest would be a harsh blow to the MSR sales.
Hello from the future tino768, 'Samus Returns' is a great game in its own right. It is just muddled under the scrutiny of fans that disliked the practices of Nintendo shutting down the fans work. If they made 'AM2R' purchasable, I would definitely buy it. It is worthy of the name and more. Hell, I'd say it should have a less tongue in cheek title seeing as it is one of the better 2D Metroid games as a whole. It's a loving recreation shot down in its prime. A damn shame so much love is turned away.
@@mr.rodgers9891 Yeah, if I were Nintendo, I would've "confiscated" (effectively bought, but calling it "confiscating" so it legally counts as protecting my IP) AM2R (paying a decent "reconsiliation fee" to Doc) and included it in Samus Returns like Metroid 1 was included in Zero Mission. Actually, if my CFW stuff ever becomes a thing, I'll just make custom updates for Samus Returns to include AM2R in that fashion. (Potentially completely top-down reimplemented.)
This Metroid season has been great and I applaud all the information and critiques that you have great job with the videos. You earned another sub and I hope your channel continues to grow.
These metroid critiques are top notch. I love listening to these before I go to bed. It's relaxing, engaging and very well made. So glad i stumbled into these. Wish there were more metroids for you to review lol.
Thank you! There is still Samus Returns, of course, and I could also cover some of the spin-offs like Prime Pinball, Hunters, and Federation Force.
The Geek Critique honestly anything would be great. Hope to see some new ones in the future!
I disagreed with m64's "Don't hate on Nintendo" plea, though.
I say hate away. The backlash is the only way they'll learn to seek better solutions to situations like this.
Because this kind of thing is NOT going away. The fan community is only getting more and more sophisticated and the tools they have to work with are only going to get better.
...*cough*...
I think in retrospect, AM2R being taking down had a very simple reason...
Just pay for the licence to use the IP. It's not hard to follow the law.
He should re-skin and re-name the main character and the metroids, so he can release the game as a new IP that's heavily based on Metroid 2.
@@SilentBudgie Perhaps if video games IP's had mandatory licensing like music did, that would be a viable solution.
@@SilentBudgie There is a lot more to it than that. Japanese corporate culture has a very large taboo against allowing foreign (as in countries) entities to work on one's franchises/products. Even within Nintendo itself, the American branch got little respect from the Japanese father company. To allow one of their flagship titles into the hands of a (to them) unknown westerner would be unthinkable to NoJ.
Metroid got 1 more fan in me becouse of am2r.
if not for that game i would have never played anny other metroid games AM2R got me in to metroid.
(Nintedo should be thankfull)
Yes, they should be thankful. Because one more fan out of millions they already have, who probably didn't even pay for any of the games, will make such a huge difference.
well at least now we know why
Alex Olmsted because only one person saw the countless news about AM2R.
This has convinced me into diving back into the Metroid games, thank you
I have revisited this video like 20 times in the past 3 years just cause of how introspective and interesting your metroid videos are. And after hearing the "Sega does what NintenDON'T/DOES" that joke never gets old.
Welp I guess we know why now.
i0ki we sure do
Yeah
i0ki it makes perfect sense
Still a dick move though.
@@KittenyKat no, not really. they can pretend the garbage content rippers don't exist, popular ones? They'd *have* to respond to as who wouldn't know about it? If they don't defend it at that point they essentially sacrifice their franchise name. They had a game in the works, and likely didn't know about this game until close to if not after release. But really, Nintendo DID let it release at the very least, knowing it wasn't going anywhere, wanna know why? Just 3 weeks ago I was able to download the game on and specifically made FOR my Android phone. You go created a massive game franchise and let someone else make a popular free game out of it so you lose your franchise if you think shit like that is cool, and tell me it's still ok.
Welp E3 left a surprise
Man, this video is worth revisiting. There's been 25 updates since 1.1 putting us at 1.5.5 at this point, with some pretty major changes and fixes. It shows just how dedicated the community is, and how people actually playing the game has lead to improvements.
I have watched all of your episodes probably multiple times, I love your content
I got a tear in my eye at the near end of the video, gj on making me want to play the game again.
I played through AM2R and never got the charge beam in the beginning and was waiting for it the entire game.
Philip Parsons That's something I hated in AM2R. How optional and missable a lot of stuff are, like the Varia Suit, and how much missing them impacts in the gameplay.
Those are the kinds of upgrades that really expresses metroid's exploratory aspects. You're never forced to be handed an upgrade, you can get through the game without finding half the stuff in it, and the fact that it works without those upgrades and the fact that you can find them on new runs is just fantastic. I can easily recall the time I found the Wave Beam or an energy tank out of sheer, lucky back-tracking and how satisfying it was to be rewarded for my natural curiosity.
@hyperx72 Now those are a close but unfair comparison. Super Metroid had a ton of energy tanks, so missing one was fine. Playing without some CORE upgrades just makes the game a worst experience, like playing without the Spazer or Wave Beam. Have in mind that they were not quite missable in Super Metroid as upgrades were in AM2R.
I am talking about AM2R. That was how how one of my playthroughs went...
I had a similar experience with the spring ball. Eventually I found out I had missed it and I decided to do one last thing before going there, which was the speed booster challenge in the golden temple...which is the only place in the game that requires the spring ball, because you need it to shinespark down the morph ball tunnel. Then, I played the randomizer, and the spring ball required the gravity suit to access, and when I finally found the gravity suit I was already ready to end the game.
Even back then Nintendo doesn’t care about the fans’s hard work
Lol I love hearing your inner sonic fan come out whenever you talk about games. The focus on gameplay, music importance, going over the top (flying chozo?!), and favorite power being the speed boost? Dead giveaway XD. From another long time sonic fan, keep rocking my dude!
Really happy to finally get a chance to hear your views on this one, was definitely worth the wait. See you next mission! Er... Season, I meant season!
See you next magic
Your review makes wanna play am2r for the third time. I love it
Exactly the same case with me.
Been watching this series just recently. Thankyou for your dedication and hard work. Subscribed.
I need your Samus returns video. You have definitely earned my subscribe from how well you did the Metroid series. Keep up the fantastic work.
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He's planning on it
Wait there are Metroid fans that send death threats to any professoinal game critics that says anything positive about Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze? Further shows how overhated Tropical Freeze is sadly...On topic though, it is a shame Nintendo took it down since Another Metroid 2 Remake is a fantastic and very well made game for fan game standards.
oddballdude1 "when are you spending too much time antagonizing a creative work" is a topic I think should be explored at some point. There's obvious stuff like the death threats you mentioned, but I feel like there are folks well short of that have been doing themselves no favors piling hate on things.
oddballdude1 Extremists can be found in any group, it's invariable.
pokepress like people who go out of their way to hate on Metroid Other M/Fed force and the star wars prequels.
A canerous sub-franchise like Prime generates a cancerous fanbase. What a surprise.
oddballdude1 Nearly all of the time, online death threats are laughable. Made by cowards who wouldn't do anything when faced with the actual opportunity.
I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG, BUT ITS FINALLY HERE
Im sure someone's pointed it out but Torizo on super metroid release eggs that bugs come out off.
And to think, you've hit over 120k since then. Keep it up you're my favorite metroid content creator!
Being here from the beginning of this channel, I am glad this channel is getting bigger.
Haha...I've seen you in these comment sections a lot! (not just here, but on a lot of other videos that I like too!) But out of curiosity define "begining"?...
I've been here since his Sonic reviews...does that count? :/
Alienrun Well, I have been gaining popularity due to the profile pic.
And I was one of his first few subs
for the record... federation force isnt a BAD game.
but why we all hate it is due to it being the only metroid game in 6 years
and the ONLY acknowlegement of metroids *30* goddamn years.
thats where the insult is. were starved for a game like prime, or a game like zero mission.....
heartbreaking to know nintendo wont listen to fans her.
i will always love nintendo. but.... in recent years they have made mistakes.
keep in mind... when you love something... you HAVE to be willing to admit when they are wrong.
and in nintendos case, they were VERY wrong to piss on the metroid fanbase like this. i expected KONAMI to do something like this. not nintendo.
i hope and pray nintendo does a 180 on this situation they are in.
that isnt the problem. did you read what i said?
the problem is we got a spinoff as the ONLY thing by nintendo for metroids *30th* anniversary
getting mad at a spinoff by itself would be like getting mad at a mario sports game. thing is, mario has main series games released all the time to keep the mario fanbase happy. metroid. has no luxury
supersmashbro596 They're not necessarily mistakes. Federation force looks like a game designed for kids first, and adults second. Nintendo is the Disney of video games.
Honestly, I've actually thought that exploring the Metroid universe as Federation troopers would be cool since they were showcased so heavily in Prime 2. Federation Force could have been a cool spinoff had they actually taken it seriously; I'm generally not one to put much thought towards a game's graphics if it plays well, but I sincerely believe that the art style ruined FF.
could have been a neat intergalactic space army style spinoff, just like halo
Federation Force wasn't originally supposed to be a Metroid game. The developer just wanted to make a fun little co-op shooter. It wasn't really supposed to be anything special. Nintendo forced them to add the Metroid elements to a game where they blatantly didn't fit. It failed and cost Nintendo a lot of money, and for that I'm glad. I do feel sorry for the actual developer though, who didn't want to do any of that.
That was the proof they where working on a two new Metroid.
Imagine an escape sequence with a temperature gauge in a game where the heat suit was optional, and would give you more time for the sequence.
Federation Force is objectively a bad game with absolutely no reason to be trashing the Metroid Prime namesake.
"Mochtroid Prime Federation Force " -TGC Super Metroid
It was integral to the story, but they could have had the game be from Samus’s perspective as opposed to the Federation’s.
Also, I wish they had included the Hunters control scheme (touchscreen aiming).
@@jwil4286 that would've been horrible
the game is not that bad. I have not played it myself but all that I think is wrong with the game is the motion controls.
It was....ok. Definitely a tone deaf game, but having a game from the federation troops’ perspective was a good idea, and at least blast ball was fun!
34:41 Thoth, not Throth. Thoth is the ancient Egyptian god of knowledge, and was commonly depicted with the head of a bird. Huh, I wonder if there are any knowledgeable bird people in Metroid to warrant that reference?
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This version brought me back to the Metroid. I never played past Metroid 3 but now I'm playing Zero, Super (again)m Fusion and may actually seek out the Prime games...maybe. I'm so glad even this early version made it to the Internet. Great vid, thanks for putting more focus on this fantastic fan project.
This game had more soul than the official remake Metroid II: Samus returns. I'm glad it exists
@Robert Kenny I'm not boycotting it. Samus Returns is decent enough, it just lacks the soul of the other great Metroid games like Super Metroid or Metroid Prime
@Robert Kenny Thus we share two different opinions. Nothing wrong with that, since taste is always subjective
@@pixelsain2736 No other doesn't your just bashing cause of its graphics.
I take it we are getting a review of Metroid: The Other M...
I will be interested in see how you are going to take it.
I would say he should play Metroid Prime 1-3 as well as Hunters before approaching Other M, that way he could understand from both the standpoint of a classic metroid fan and 3d metroid fan why it doesn't work at all.
It doesn't look bad. That's not the issue here.
Liam Najor
I disagree with you on the Gameplay and graphics
Yes the gameplay is flawed, but the actual fights are fun. and Other M is the BEST looking Wii Game.
DarkLink1996 no first d-pad movement does not work in fast pace 3D action games, 2 it is a fast pace action game.
Rodan Lesh
Your second point doesn't make sense. Yes, it's not a good Metroid game. Yes, it has a crap story. But that doesn't mean it can't be fun.
I just noticed that when he showed Serris in Fusion both his health and missiles were at 69. Nice
This was a cool series man. Congratulations on the content.