TinSmiths Mystery Tool Restoration
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- This was one of those restorations where you step back after the sanding dust settles and marvel at the skill of those who came before us! Probably my favorite kind of tool to Restore!
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Every homesteader needs that tool right there. That thing is valuable too a homesteader.
Nice restoration of two beautiful old machines! I'm need to clear up a few things though! I am a 3rd generation sheet metal worker(retired) and have restored quite a few of these my self and still use them on a daily basis. For the record: in America, these are known as "turning machines" (let the Brits have their "Jennys"). In the old old days, (the category into which these machines fall) each machine was made for a specific purpose, along around the 1920's or 1930's, they began making them with interchangeable rolls(the beader crimper being the exception, they always came with interchangeable bead and crimp rolls), The larger machine here is one of those. The smaller machine is known as a turning machine or a thick edge machine. They generally came in 2 sizes, large and small, While they are useful for many operations, their main function was to create an edge for inserting a wire in the edge of tapering tinware( the wire edge for cylinders and square and rectangular pans are done while flat). I love these old machines, especially the old brass top ones and I don't know whether I like actually using them or rescuing them and bringing them back to life as was done here. It is amazing the condition some of them are in but you can usually bring them back to life! Great fun!
P.S. I hope no one will think I am being snotty, I just like using the correct terminology. Not a "bead roller" or a "swager" or a "rim roller". Not used to "turn lips" or seam stovepipe! I love it when the "amateurs" chime in!
The tool is called a Tinmans Jenny. Used by sheet metal workers, coach builders, tin smiths and panel beaters. They are still used today, (in more updated form) and using wheels attached here, would put swages, (round bottomed troughs) in metal. Examples would be the rings in bean cans, decorative swages in car panels etc. The front wheels could be swapped over for wheels with other firms such as joggled edge. This is where one piece of metal us given a stepped edge so the second can lie on top flush, with no edge raised between the two.
The handle on the top applies pressure for deeper penetration as you used on the crimped edge. The piece behind that is an adjustable fence to allow for increasing the depth from the edge.
thanks. well put.
Exactly right - also known as a Swage (used to form the intersection on lobster back duct bends etc, and to Swage strengthening bands into round ducts - so many uses (I am a Sheet Metal worker for over 30 years and still use these)
You are completely correct!!!
well we called them beader and crimpers it is used in the field when doing installation of metal over insulation in a industrial setting
Thank you, Edward Charles, I was hoping someone in the comment section could shed some light on what that tool was.
Very beautiful result, I love your background sound pictures with rain and thunderstorms. And the best is you show us that the tools are used for. Thank you for sharing your amazing story. God bless you and your family
Lol it's been raining here in East Texas quite often the pass few weeks, wouldn't shock me if he actually recorded the rain happening.
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Those tools are works of art. Wonderful to see it restored.
Combining the beauty of restoring this gem and the thunderstorms... probably one of the finest experiences of my life
Neither one of these tools is stranger to me. But I’m a 40 year Copper/Tinsmith. I love using the old hand operated stuff. 😎
the rain in the background was a welcomed sound. i hate videos that blast your speakers with horrible, generic electronic synth pop music. thanks for keeping it real. BTW, been watching awhile and i love your entire series. thank you!
Great restoration of a fine old machine. You can tell the quality of the original materials and the craftsmanship that went into making it. That's why it still works.
You didn't chew up the heads of any of those screws. Try doing that with modern screws and you would have ended up having to drill them out. Fine job 👍
Great job. Wish I could experience a rain storm like the one here.
That rain was a nice touch.
A good, honest, basic restoration with no fancy duds - other than the brass-work. Works like a charm every time.
Luvverly!
I could watch you restore cool old tools everyday. Your the man Justin
First one of these tool restoration videos I've watched where penetrating oil was applied and let to sit for (a day? a week? a month?) a period of time. Soooooo smart! At 2 minutes in... I've subscribed!
+jdhalvo Awesome! Thanks Brother!
The entire world is sorely lacking in tinsmiths at present. Looking forward to more on this line of smithing in the future....
Not in Transylvania. Here, tinsmithing is a gipsy job. And we have an abundance of them around here, unfortunately!
In Europe there are ton's of them. As the previous posting stated Gypsy's do that work
Nice Restoration, Thanks !
Brass and black, I had forotten what a great combination that is. Nice restoration.
My brother Kevin said that is used to bend the edges of sheet metal, then put any size wore in the groove that was made then you can finish folding the edge over for a really strong/secure edge of the sheet.
What an awesome restoration
Crimper and an edge turner or beader. Need to run a bead before the crimp. I have 4 or 5 of those I have restored. 2 of them I mirrored out all the pieces. Absolutely beautiful pieces. Good job Justin!
Cool tool. Beautiful restoration.
The sound of the rain, really adds a great touch to the video
Excellent restore, love the humor as well. And I bet everyone watching thinks you are spot on in your guess as to what they are. Keep em coming please!
Yea man the rain and thunder is bad ass!! As always love the vid
We where still using the same tool until 2011. Some other tools as old as 150 years old. Making copper gutters, stove pipes, maple water boilers and many old house restauration stuff.
Another inspiring restoration
Beautiful job on that roller/crimper, Justin. I love that tool, it's so well made and executed that with occasional maintenance every 30-50 yrs or so...lol... one can expect it to perform to original spec for at least 150 yrs. On top of that it's a work of art which your restoration revealed.....One of your best vids, Thank you, subbed!
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Never guessed till you were done what it was for. Great job
Outstanding work, we called them bead rollers
I am 73 and when i was younger i had a set of those that i used . I gave them to an antique engine collector in Ohio. Any way , what u have are stove pipe forming tools . one puts the flange down the length of the metal pipe the other makes the fluted end. As people here on lookout mtn. started using more gas and elect. stoves and heaters i didn't need them as much.
Took the words right out of my mouth
Everyone!!! this is the first restoration vid that I have watched where someone has the foresight to apply penetrant to all the movable bolts, nuts, screws, etc... prior to starting. Seriously. Others only seem to think of applying just prior to loosening. DO IT AT THE BEGINNING SO IT HAS TIME TO WORK!!! duh!.
+Rob Smith It's much less abrasive then your personality 😉 Just messing with you. In all seriousness I wouldn't recommend the wire brush on brass in the hands of a noob as you pointed out it could potentially damage the part. It takes years of work with abrasives and rotary tools to get the feel and develop your skills. No brass was harmed in the making of this video. Thanks for watching.
I like the rain and thunder
gorgeous restoration. I am in awe that these items that were never meant to be pretty are being restored, and rebuilt.
I like it a lot. Those incredible instruments were indestructible thanks for the rescue.
It's really great to see someone using heavy grease on projects. Keep up to good work restoring machines. And keep put out videos I really like watching you do them. It's inspiring me to do some of the same.
I am amazed by people restoring old tools....what I would like to know is how in the world do you remember to get it back together.....If it was me doing this, I would have had many "spare parts" left....
Awesome resto, can't believe how effortless you make the handles look with the forming work.
Pretty sweet, I like old machinery like that. I also ended up buying some CRC Rust Remover and hand cleaning wipes because of your channel. I plan on using the rust remover on the restoration of an old Champion Eureka #140 I’m working on for my forge. The hand wipes also come in incredibly helpful.
Thanks for sharing. November and rainy days always make me sad but your video is exception.
I'm so glad this showed up I can't get enough of these videos thanks for what you do
Awesome to see the tools of the trade that someone had to figure out ! Hope some great days for you and Amy and family !
Yes the 2 machines work together
One helps in making tin elbows and the other as you demonstrated those that....well done they look beautiful
Awesome. Good video
Great restore Justin👍🏼🍺
wow didin't expect that look
The adjustable height and two wheels, lower one grooved and upper wheel beveled was a giveaway. I imagine It could put grooves around copper pipe ends to hold solder
Great JOB and the rainsound is perfect at the background, very soothing and perfect harmony!!!
I love the sound of that good old Texas rainstorm in the background!
Awesome video!!!!
excellent work
Yes that rain with head phones 👍🇬🇧😎
Great job done it's very true about making stove pipes and other type of pipe it can be used for any type of metal even for duct work. Keep up the great videos
+Kenny Mysak Thanks Kenny!
how cool is that!
¡Muy bueno! Me gusta cuando se prueban las máquinas, esto indica no solo que se ven bien, sino que también quedan funcionales como cuando eran nuevas. Felicitaciones.
Quite a long time ago those two tools were been used by small shops to produce pipes for heaters - ovens ... TODAY much bigger factories do the same with machinery .. Restoration was well ...
Great video.
I have a buddy that is an hvac guy and I would have swore he still had a variation of these in his shop. I will be looking much closer next time I am over there.
Very cool.
What a crusty old piece of grit restored back to its beautiful self. Amazing restoration, love the brass gears. :)
Excellent work!!!
Thats so cool
The rain sounds so nice and get to watch an amazing video two for one
I love that handle. Great restoration.
Sweet!! Nice Centerpiece or ..........................
The first machine you used is a turning machine, it is used to turn the edge on a cylinder in preparation for wiring the edge. Great job on the restoration!
Way too cool.
Wow...really cool vintage tools. Amazing restoration...great work!
Enjoyed & Thumbs Up
best background sounds EVER!
Very relaxing.
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I love going to bed n listen to the sounds of thunder n rain on the roof. So soothing. Lol. Have a good one, everyone. Take care. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👐🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Check out a machine called a “Swage and Jenny”. They use interchangeable dies to form different profiles.. The bead roller may have been used to roll a bead around the diameter of the pipe to build some strength.. It looks to me from what I see that the dies on one of them look like that may be interchangeable. You, as always have done a masterful job...
Отличная реставрация ! Гуд !
Well done, I didn't have a clue of the use of those 2 equipments before you made the demonstration after very nice restoration.
Cool set. Nice rehab.
You do a nice job restoring these old tools. It would be great if you could connect with some craftsmen who are experts at using them.
looks good. dad bought a industrial version of this a few years back. about 4x the size.
I found a bead roller and crimper just like this at the fab shop I work at and I tried like hell to get them but they wasn’t having it! Sad thing is they’ll just let it sit and get worse
Looks like hand driven Monty Python ping machine :)
Love the thunder storm in the back ground
Great restoration brother! Everyone is talking about that rain in the background,And as a California kid that has not seen rain in years it does sound amazing! Keep up the good work..
Nice restoration
Thanks for sharing another great show
You are the first person I ever saw roll through a crimp. Usually that part is left flat.
We still use sheet metal rollers and crimpers just like that in our shops
That’s pretty sweet. Good job.
I sure wish they still made tools with brass... looks so good!
i like heavy rain .. so relaxing
Good thing that lindale is only about 20 mins away, I'll be there!
awesome
I used to do the screwdriver and hammer thing, but spending a few bucks for an impact driver made things easier., and isn't as likely to mess up the head of the screw.
14:34 good catch...thank you for restoring America!
With the rain in the background a little Doors "Riders on the Storm" would have been nice. Great Job !
Nice Job...!!! An interesting tool...made in the industrial age of not so long ago...! 🤔🙄🙂👍👌👊
Feeling warmer already!
Thanks 👍
Love the look of that handle!!
Hello Justin i work with a moderne tool the same like this one i am i industrial isolator and we need this machine ( the new) for the plate like aluminium, armco and inox i work in refineries Total,BP, shell and ESSO so every day de need the machine. And this one is very cool but to mutch older realy.Thanks for restoration to mutch cool realy.
Congratulations and best regards and for all.
STAY SAFE
Looks like a giant can opener apparatus
nice job. love this kind of stuff
Cool machines, the seam is what we call an Ohio lock and generally you would stop the crimp roller on each side of the seam with galvanized metal. It's used for longitudinal seams on round duct along with the crimper and are still used today.