I thought that was hilarious XD. The entire reason I even know who Ninja is was because of those sound bites of him swearing during rage moments (back when he *only* played fortnite.) I have no idea what he does now but I know he definitely also streams LoL but I don't actually watch him.
Some manipulative toxic behaviour. Leave your dead relatives out of your own drama. It's almost like he thinks swearing on his grandfather's grave or life actually proves that he's being totally honest.
@@tayseirali7267 so if you get hurt at work and they refuse to pay your bills for the injur and you are now in a wheelchair the rest of your life you shouldn’t sue?
This is why I like you so much. I don’t know why every time sexism is mentioned some guys freak out and act like we literally saying all men are the absolute worst and should be kept in prisons as breeding cattle lol 😂 But thank you for acknowledging the issues women have when these kind of situations happen
to be fair, there are women out there who really think like this, especially on twitter. But this doesn't excuse freaking out before confirming if that's actually one of those women...
@@catenjoyer76 Imagine being a female soccer player trying to argue that she earns less because the market is sexist, and not because they suck so bad at the sport that nobody bothers to watch them play. Shit like that sums up most alleged sexism cases these days, it's mostly a tool used by feminists as a common scapegoat to blame for their failures and frustrations.
Lmfao i agree. Whenver I do hear about that couple It's always got something to do with his wife doing some outright dumb shit and making their situation worse lol. I'd argue Ninja get a real professional manager but I can see how that would cause internal issues b/w them
@@snkybrki correcting yourself doesn’t go in the same sentence, it goes after u realized u messed up. I’m not jumping the gun when it is clear what he’s doing “mate”
Everytime i watch your channel i see you standing up for important issues or speaking truth, or even simply spreading awareness. I appreciate it, im new to finding you but i can honestly say very thankful for your voice.
having your wife as your manager and having her threaten to sue people on your behalf is the same energy as "my dad owns xbox and he can delete your xbox account"
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@@dekuwy6961 - No one said Ninja did anything wrong. Ninja is the one sueing, not the one being sued. You understand this right?? Please tell me you have at least enough brain cells to understand that.
@@maplenerd22 bro She's bringing ninja into this and she's smearing him watch the video and listen to what she says. czcams.com/video/QTrHL-OpDEY/video.html
"I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away"....that is essentially like crossing your fingers when you agree to someone. He is already dead, there is no curse to befall him if Ninja lied
@@rodriguezian_mcmuhammed3185 Doesn't matter since Ninja is supporting literal ToS breakers. (Also, I don't simp for Poki or anyone else, but I still think it's not okay)
@@4JUVIE lets be real here, ninjas wife is basically ninja, like not a single human being on this planet know her for anything other than being "ninjas wife". Shes basically just an extension of him at this stage.
Ya, after watching this video, I'm confused as to exactly what the problemis, I just see insults, not an actual tort or defamation (aka purposefly lying in order to harm a persons reputation). Opinions don't count.
@@4JUVIE if you think im being sexist im not. I think woman should absolutely strive to be more than just a wife and be seen as an individual. But i still have the right to shit on ninjas wife because thats all she is, an extension on ninja. In fact im being anti sexist, im literally insulting her because shes just an extension.
Ninja has no chance at a defamation suit. Defamation requires both lies as well as malicious intent. Even if what Poki said is 100% false, unless they can prove she lied intentionally for the sake of tarnishing Ninja's reputation, they've got nothing
@@vagabond8094 Um, no? Defamation is lies abt someone's character. Being an asshole to someone, and being called out WITH PROOF, is the farthest thing from Defamation.
@Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin -Bearing that definition in mind, Pokimane has done a fantastic job of ruining her own reputation through her actions. If she should be suing anyone for defamation, it's Pokimane.- EDIT: Yeah that wasn't correct. Ninja's wife was the one throwing around the lawsuit talk.
I'd pay to see the look on the judge's face when Ninja and his wife try to convince them that merely explaining a tense situation that happened counts as "defamation of character."
That’s funny. Here I was thinking she was getting hate for saying the N word multiple times but it turns out it’s just people being sexist and she’s totally innocent! Yay!
@@DsgSleazy The large issue is mostly her disgusting handling of it, and her extremely toxic fanbase acting as if the opposition is some KKK attack, "I feel like im in the 1950s - Pokimane". She's an actual horrible person, her fanbase is even more toxic.
Pokimane is actually a toxic person who actually managed to control the internet by playing the victim. I hate her being Pokimane and not being a woman. I don't know why she gets treated as the embodiment of all womankind on twitch when they're thousands of more wholesome women than her.
the only part i dont get is calling pokimane a "bitch", obviously calling someone that is not nice, but like ninja said he could just mean girls in general. i dont do this, but ive seen mannnyyy instances of people calling girls as "bitches", and thats never called out at all, if anything its accepted. bitches isnt really a term that can be used for males, so obviously ninja wouldnt call any male people bitches. but i feel there isnt any word that can replace "bitch" for males, i feel our culture in this scenario is just inherently sexist and i wouldnt say all ppl who call girls bitches are sexist (because like i said, i feel like that terminology is accepted). idk lol
@@daniel-sunn bro im on pokis side obviously, thats why i said "the only part i dont get", because i feel like i bring up good points and im interested what ppl have to say, cos like i said; i dont know what to think. its a bit of a grey situation (for this specific example, not generally speaking ninja vs poki). its not black or white ^^
@@homeyworkey I'm pretty sure it came down to the context. Like usually girl/gay people (im also queer btw) uses b*tch to call other as a supportive statement like "Yes yo go girlll!!" Or somethin like that. But clearly in the video ninja himself even backpedal on saying the word which means he was using it on the negative connotation. It doesnt mean girl/queer people cant use the term in a negative connotation tho. All and all if he never mean harm with the word usage, he doesn't need to correct himself.
100% would get thrown out of court if brought. In the US, defamation of character is near impossible to get in court, especially for a 'public' figure. This wouldn't even get a (real) lawyer retained.
imagine getting someone banned for saying L + ratio. Twitch is a whole ass show, what jidion did was wrong, he should of got a 7 day ban. But imagine getting perm banned cuz of it. Soft ass mfs. People in ww2 got shot up on beaches so we can have better lives today, meanwhile nowdays people are suing each other cuz of what they said or getting people banned for saying L + ratio
@@retna1x363 The L + ratio spam is the least problematic aspect of the situation, regardless he broke tos and continued harassment on other platforms after the 14 day ban. He should have stopped but he didn’t, and should have expected some type of punishment or repercussion. Also L + ratio
Even if they did actually take it to court, they would never win the case. Does Ninja even know how hard it is to win a lawsuit over defamation of character?
@@cibinomin6540 You cannot sue for defamation of character on behalf of someone else without said individual consenting and being part of the lawsuit. Ninja is not some baby that's unaware of his wife/manager's decisions, he is 100% in on this.
The thing is Ninja tried to talk to her but he's not good at talking to people it seems like he's not doing it seriously. But I think his Wife does it better
Interesting thing about all this: when you sue a public figure, in addition to proving defamation you have to also prove that it was done intentionally for malicious purposes, ie financial fallout, etc. So it’s straight up not gonna happen. Ninja would never win that lawsuit
Famous Twitch streamer doesn't automatically mean IRL public figure, *however* considering all Poki did was just read a situation and say literally nothing further, there is obviously no case here. Ninja's wife deserves to have her law license revoked on the spot for threatening that over the equivalent of reading a book.
I would be surprised if this goes past a Tweet. Ninja just straight up loses if this actually goes. Hell Poki wouldn't even need a lawyer she could just represent herself that is how laughable this is. Because Ninja has literally 0 evidence to bring up if all she did was resay what he said and showed public clips. I think even a toddler could beat Ninja by themselves in this "case."
It does but pokimane is not the victim of it and should be banned for false copy striking and being a fucking scumbag. Stop defending her just cause she's a woman.
When I first saw the title, I thought it said "Pokémon sued by Ninja" and thought that's what the video was about until Charlie mentioned Pokimane. Then I re-read the title and everything made sense.
She read what he said and implied he was aiding someone in ban avoidance, also implied he was using his pull within twitch to do so. There's a word for that and its corruption.
It's pretty much the new celebrity drama/bullshit that crazy people LOVE to follow. It was bound to happen once CZcams and Twitch got to where they are today. Content creators truly are the new generation of celebrity.
He literally completely glossed over the beginning part of this whole s***. Pokémon years back with saying racist ass shit. Jideon called her out and ofc he gets perma banned when she's the one calling people nigga on stream. I'm not saying he should have responded to racism with misogyny, but it's important to know why he did it
4:17 "I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away..." Sorry for your loss, Tyler, but it's pretty damn worthless to swear on the life of someone who's already dead.
Attorney Tom made a great video discussing the legal aspect of the whole thing. Basically, Ninja has no ground to stand on when it comes to suing her. Laughable really how they decided to try and threaten a lawsuit over something they themselves said and she just repeated.
@@yourmother5899 Saying “I wonder” doesn’t hold the same weight legally as “He WOULD be different if I was a guy”. Y’all can debate all you want but legally he can’t do shit and nothing she said can be held against her for defamation
I've only seen a few of your videos like this, but I have to say, you are the last rational person on the internet. You approach a situation so professionally, and deconstruct it in a way most anyone can understand. It's nice to see this sort of rational thought on the internet for once.
I’m also happy Charlie calls out that shit dealing with sexism and people defending those claims. It’s fucking nuts that people can act like it doesn’t go on
@@dathunderman4 its cause women have too much empathy given to them in the west , they are the most privledged class of people in the entire world , you cant compliment them without being a simp is the pendulum swing back because you cant criticize or judge a woman without being sexist cause america is all about gender and race and always being the victim because playinga victim is a big time reward. that countries gonna fall like rome good luck western people it wont help though.
@@CyberPunkBadGuy "Most priviledged class of people in the entire world"? I'm a girl, you don't even know how much shlt we have to deal with by simply existing. Whatever we do and whatever we wear, we always get harassed, sexualized and be creep on. People like you always talk as if you knew sht. You know Charlie's video "This guy seems to hate women"? Watch it because it features YOU.
Wow the power that goes to people’s heads is insane. Ninja and his wife are literally living in their own sick twisted world and the rest of us are here in reality.
I'll give them credit for trying to sue each other. It's refreshing compared to the usual stuff like sexual harassment or using no-no words on a live stream.
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar ill need your uncles full name, location, dob, credit card information, and age and then ill tell him to get you a new camera dw i got u
While Ninja is far from blameless in this, Pokimane isn’t exactly being the fairest story teller. I wouldn’t expect her to be, but people are acting like every word coming out of her mouth is a clean and unbiased fact
@@Fire_truck_man This opinion makes me more convinced that internet has biased negative impressions in every female streamers since tye start of the simp era.
Can someone please tell me what's sexist about this? Is it the fact that jidion got banned for targeting harassment and yet pokimane did the same thing and got away with it?
Ninja has some sort of reputation to keep, and ninja's wife being obviously his wife and manager. She's gonna take it as more of a personal attack to her husband rather than "client" I think getting legal teams involved is incredibly stupid. But I guess it's each their own.
@@Pyronek it’s not jokes when she would’ve been getting threats on every one of her platforms, you can’t be that dumb to believe that people were only saying “l + ratio” and nothing else. let’s be real for a second
I get she wanted to defend Ninja cuz that's the most human thing you can do in a relationship, but the difference is she's his manager too, so she genuinely has to restrain herself from doing shit like that. RIP to Ninja's bank account if this lawsuit does make it to court.
@@ethangreen5416 Nothing ever does. She’s been attempting to ride the clout train ever since he moved out of the basement. All she does is answer emails
I love how everyone seems to be super serious about this and Charlie just pops out with “I didn’t even know ninja says bad words”
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Who is super serious about this? It's like the most pointless drama ever lol
I thought that was hilarious XD.
The entire reason I even know who Ninja is was because of those sound bites of him swearing during rage moments (back when he *only* played fortnite.)
I have no idea what he does now but I know he definitely also streams LoL but I don't actually watch him.
@@hellowell3743 Blame Jidion and Ninja's wife. They're literally the only people that made it worse.
Ninja: But, your honor, in my defense, have you ever seen this? **flosses**
i dont see enough movement
@@lol-pt2hi lol
Twerks*
flossing
He would prob get the same excitment he got when he did the cringey new years bash.
“I swear on my grandfathers life who just passed away” - how the fuck does that even make sense
it does, he doesn't swear shit
His grandfather reincarnated what else could it be? I think we have a conspiracy to solve.
Some manipulative toxic behaviour. Leave your dead relatives out of your own drama. It's almost like he thinks swearing on his grandfather's grave or life actually proves that he's being totally honest.
What fuckin life is there to swear on 💀💀💀
@@KekePalmer. fr bruh
Suing is literally the adult version of "I'm telling MOMMY"
Well on this aspect yes , but there are other reasons suing is valid
@@erwinsmith5604 well telling mommy can also be valid sometimes
I'm dying🤣🤣
@@tayseirali7267 so if you get hurt at work and they refuse to pay your bills for the injur and you are now in a wheelchair the rest of your life you shouldn’t sue?
@@jakesmall8875 you should probably sue if that happens
I low-key forgot ninja existed. The guy truly is a ninja he disappeared from my memory.
When world doesnt need him, he disappears
Anyway,
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Dude same
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Finally
I just know him as the "fortnite guy"
I swear to dog I said the same thing to my bro when he was getting involved to start with.
Be careful, Charlie. Ninja might sue you for stating facts.
Charlie legit looks like hes shaved his pubic hair off and stuck it on his face.
@@garbeal2397 where tf did that come from
Or his wife manager will send him spooky DMs!! OooooOOOoooo
@@garbeal2397 lol are u a salty jidion fan?? Haha that was hella cringe
Ninja is nothing more than jesus himself.
I agree with you, men on twitch usually harass and cyberbully female streamers for no reason. The perfect examples of this are Pokimane and Helenalive
True, rlly childish and sexist too
They are females who abused there pets and still wasn't banned
@@takamikeigo7985 Childish are the ones actually believing this.
Lmao, as expected just playing victim card
@@dishwas_her1160 gay
@@takamikeigo7985 yes
“I didn’t even know Ninja said bad words”
GOTTEM
Right when he said that I was scrolling past this comment-
@@MeUrDevilIk this was 2 years ago but the same shit just happened💀
these twitch dramas are always so anti-climactic and weird
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Especially weird
Verified person!!!
which is a good thing for the people involved lol
Just narcissists being attention whores.
Imagine Ninja in court “but Judge, she had the audacity to show a clip of me insisting that I did something that I didn’t do”
I think the defamation was initially her saying he's misogynistic
@@sexylazercatwizard The defamation was that, and her insisting he actively encouraged misogyny/hate raids against Poki lol.
Pokimane actually said live on stream that she "Has bigger balls then Ninja", and I'm no snowflake but that's definitely against TOS.
@@ripF5C for sure she’s going to hurt his pride because his not so big lol
No one asked 🥱
This is why I like you so much. I don’t know why every time sexism is mentioned some guys freak out and act like we literally saying all men are the absolute worst and should be kept in prisons as breeding cattle lol 😂 But thank you for acknowledging the issues women have when these kind of situations happen
tag me when someone gets pissed and starts hurling racial slurs pls. 🍿
to be fair, there are women out there who really think like this, especially on twitter. But this doesn't excuse freaking out before confirming if that's actually one of those women...
That's because sexism allegations became overused and 99% of the time they consist on false distorted narratives of a very different reality.
@@nobodyharder6575 What?
@@catenjoyer76 Imagine being a female soccer player trying to argue that she earns less because the market is sexist, and not because they suck so bad at the sport that nobody bothers to watch them play. Shit like that sums up most alleged sexism cases these days, it's mostly a tool used by feminists as a common scapegoat to blame for their failures and frustrations.
“I’ve never heard Ninja say bad word’s before”
2016 Ninja:”Shut the fuck kid”,Your Adopted”
“Onision pretended to be his own manager once to try and sue me.”
Yeah, that seems pretty in-character for Greg.
I’m gay
@@bleachispeak6306 Greg
onision is the most insufferable person online and i’m glad that i’ve successfully avoided him for many years now
isn't that the incel guy who wrote a book that was basically fanfic about himself
I’m confused why can’t we call a bitch “bitch”
I find it hilarious that it seems to be Jessica’s life mission to make her husband look as bad as possible.
Kids bully
Men sue
Understand the grind
Fr 💀
@@jainamhandleisntavavailable 🤣🤣🤣
To be fair, he's also pretty good at doing that to himself as well
Lmfao i agree. Whenver I do hear about that couple It's always got something to do with his wife doing some outright dumb shit and making their situation worse lol. I'd argue Ninja get a real professional manager but I can see how that would cause internal issues b/w them
hearing a voice like Charlie say things like yes, 100% sexist comments are very common place online and to female creators, is so refreshing.
Wtf, sexism is not refreshing
@@teddie7844 I believe you mis-read my comment. I’m saying Charlie commenting on sexism being a problem is refreshing, not the act itself.
@@hannahsoltys4036 do you people just purposely try and make problems out of nothing ?
@@garlicknot887 did you respond to the wrong person or? I don’t believe I did anything like that.
@@garlicknot887 The irony
i don’t even like pokimane but she was in the right here? idk she was just chillin i think she handled it well
"I swear on my grandfathers life, who just passed away," is the wildest statement I've ever seen
a statement clearly made for guilt tripping and manipulation. Ninja is absolutely disgusting for this
@@jax213 Could just have been correcting himself. Don't jump the gun mate
@@snkybrki correcting yourself doesn’t go in the same sentence, it goes after u realized u messed up. I’m not jumping the gun when it is clear what he’s doing “mate”
This may not be the first time he swore on his grandfather's life
@@snkybrki how do you correct yourself in a DM you havent sent...???? you just backspace and say "swear on his grave" or whatever you intended to say
this whole situation is definitely really petty, but “ninja vs pokimane” is probably the funniest twitch drama i could think of
Leafy vs pokimane lmao. Just had a 2018 flashback or whenever that was
Pokimane is dragging it on could’ve been over after the whole Jidion thing
@@dekuwy6961 lol she just said what she saw... ninja is dragging it
I don't even know ninja married his manager, DAMN.
@@blipblop1112 they been married
Everytime i watch your channel i see you standing up for important issues or speaking truth, or even simply spreading awareness. I appreciate it, im new to finding you but i can honestly say very thankful for your voice.
I agree. Or he is torturing himself with hot sauce. Either way, I am binge watching his stuff at the moment.
"I didn't even bother showering" no way we're gunna browse over that LMAOOOO
having your wife as your manager and having her threaten to sue people on your behalf is the same energy as "my dad owns xbox and he can delete your xbox account"
But the thing is ninjas dad actually owns “xbox”
Yeah, that is why nepotism just don't work
Dead on lol
Ninja is such an embarrassment to masculinity.
Ninja really is a ninja, because everything he did to take action was behind the scenes.
Cringe
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would've died laughing if the screenshot showed poki replying "L" to the message from Ninja's manager 💀
Never gonna forget when ninja gave the legendary comeback "don't you have a cat to abuse?" to alinity 😂
If Ninja wants to sue someone for ruining his image, he should look into this "Ninja" guy. That guy is making Ninja look like a real douche
Ninja aint gonna sue this “Ninja” guy. That Ninja guy is making Ninja look like a real douce for it to be sued anyway
Man, i lowkey missed pewdiepie vs alinity..
Ninja has done nothing wrong he told Jidion what he did was wrong and he’ll help him learn about twitch. Poki is dragging this on
@@dekuwy6961 - No one said Ninja did anything wrong. Ninja is the one sueing, not the one being sued. You understand this right?? Please tell me you have at least enough brain cells to understand that.
@@maplenerd22 bro
She's bringing ninja into this and she's smearing him watch the video and listen to what she says.
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"I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away"....that is essentially like crossing your fingers when you agree to someone. He is already dead, there is no curse to befall him if Ninja lied
lmao word! youre supposed to say you swear on their grave
He's trolling so hard saying that. He knew what he was saying. If his grandfather has passed away there is no life to swear on 🤣
bro pokemon calling jidion mustard?
I like how this went from twitch drama to poop jars right back to twitch drama lol 🤣🤣
"I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away" ninja is an actual eight grader
Pokemaines not gonna notice you bro
@@rodriguezian_mcmuhammed3185 lol
@@rodriguezian_mcmuhammed3185 Doesn't matter since Ninja is supporting literal ToS breakers.
(Also, I don't simp for Poki or anyone else, but I still think it's not okay)
Influenced by the people that watch him
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Going to court over this would be wasting the judges time.
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Nope judges get paid 2
@@freitlings danm you ruined the bot chain lmao
How are you not at 10m subs yet, its criminal, best content out
I really cant believe this man on holding his straight face while making thousands of ppl laugh in a serious topic 💀
defamation is literally one of the hardest lawsuits to win, ninja is out of his mind if he thinks this is even in the same universe as defamation
Uhh you mean ninjas wife or ninja himself?
@@4JUVIE lets be real here, ninjas wife is basically ninja, like not a single human being on this planet know her for anything other than being "ninjas wife". Shes basically just an extension of him at this stage.
@@perpetual_suffering1458 that’s not a very good way of thinking man I’m just saying that logic isn’t very good
Ya, after watching this video, I'm confused as to exactly what the problemis, I just see insults, not an actual tort or defamation (aka purposefly lying in order to harm a persons reputation). Opinions don't count.
@@4JUVIE if you think im being sexist im not. I think woman should absolutely strive to be more than just a wife and be seen as an individual. But i still have the right to shit on ninjas wife because thats all she is, an extension on ninja. In fact im being anti sexist, im literally insulting her because shes just an extension.
Ninja has no chance at a defamation suit. Defamation requires both lies as well as malicious intent. Even if what Poki said is 100% false, unless they can prove she lied intentionally for the sake of tarnishing Ninja's reputation, they've got nothing
Don't you also have to prove losses too or something like that?
Three of a kind, you win!
@@vagabond8094 Releasing DMs is not defamation.
@@vagabond8094 yeah bro that's not what defamation is
@@vagabond8094
Um, no? Defamation is lies abt someone's character. Being an asshole to someone, and being called out WITH PROOF, is the farthest thing from Defamation.
From CZcams dramas to now Twitch drama. Ken was right when he said that Twitch is evolving in the same way that CZcams had back then
I just discovered ur takes on all these different subjects.... Huge fan now. Bravo
the fact that she faithfully portrayed everything he said word for word and it's considered defamation says it all
She is full of bs
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@Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin Okay Jessica
@Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin it's crazy that no one asked
@Grigori Yefimovich Rasputin
-Bearing that definition in mind, Pokimane has done a fantastic job of ruining her own reputation through her actions. If she should be suing anyone for defamation, it's Pokimane.-
EDIT:
Yeah that wasn't correct. Ninja's wife was the one throwing around the lawsuit talk.
I'd pay to see the look on the judge's face when Ninja and his wife try to convince them that merely explaining a tense situation that happened counts as "defamation of character."
ikr, i doubt it would even get past pre-trial
I assure You those judges have heard more stupid shit than that already _LULW_
I doubt its gonna go to court
I wanna see Judge Judy on the case😂
Imagine how much money the lawyers will make 👀
People nowadays will try to sue anyone for the dumbest things
I can’t like this enough. So much respect for Charlie for being realistic about pokimane and not jumping on the thinly-veiled misogyny hate wagon.
That’s funny. Here I was thinking she was getting hate for saying the N word multiple times but it turns out it’s just people being sexist and she’s totally innocent! Yay!
@@briancrazykid159 "Sexism is when my queen gets critizied!!!"
@@GeckoClever I believe she's mostly innocent in this case but this is funny asf.
@@DsgSleazy The large issue is mostly her disgusting handling of it, and her extremely toxic fanbase acting as if the opposition is some KKK attack, "I feel like im in the 1950s - Pokimane". She's an actual horrible person, her fanbase is even more toxic.
Pokimane is actually a toxic person who actually managed to control the internet by playing the victim.
I hate her being Pokimane and not being a woman. I don't know why she gets treated as the embodiment of all womankind on twitch when they're thousands of more wholesome women than her.
Shes doing the literal opposite of defamation, she’s echoing what he himself said
the only part i dont get is calling pokimane a "bitch", obviously calling someone that is not nice, but like ninja said he could just mean girls in general. i dont do this, but ive seen mannnyyy instances of people calling girls as "bitches", and thats never called out at all, if anything its accepted.
bitches isnt really a term that can be used for males, so obviously ninja wouldnt call any male people bitches. but i feel there isnt any word that can replace "bitch" for males, i feel our culture in this scenario is just inherently sexist and i wouldnt say all ppl who call girls bitches are sexist (because like i said, i feel like that terminology is accepted). idk lol
@@homeyworkey ninjas alt acct coming in hard
@@daniel-sunn bro im on pokis side obviously, thats why i said "the only part i dont get", because i feel like i bring up good points and im interested what ppl have to say, cos like i said; i dont know what to think. its a bit of a grey situation (for this specific example, not generally speaking ninja vs poki). its not black or white ^^
@@homeyworkey I'm pretty sure it came down to the context. Like usually girl/gay people (im also queer btw) uses b*tch to call other as a supportive statement like "Yes yo go girlll!!" Or somethin like that. But clearly in the video ninja himself even backpedal on saying the word which means he was using it on the negative connotation. It doesnt mean girl/queer people cant use the term in a negative connotation tho.
All and all if he never mean harm with the word usage, he doesn't need to correct himself.
@@homeyworkey everyones a bitch
I just imagine the legal team laughing at them if they actually tried.
“Omg did u heard Ninja and his shit of a wife calling us for help”
Free money for the lawyers. Quick and easy money
Ayo, we gotta call Saul
100% would get thrown out of court if brought. In the US, defamation of character is near impossible to get in court, especially for a 'public' figure. This wouldn't even get a (real) lawyer retained.
Imagine suing someone for saying that you said something that you actually said
Oh god what did I start
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@@stofficial9315 shut up
imagine getting someone banned for saying L + ratio. Twitch is a whole ass show, what jidion did was wrong, he should of got a 7 day ban. But imagine getting perm banned cuz of it. Soft ass mfs. People in ww2 got shot up on beaches so we can have better lives today, meanwhile nowdays people are suing each other cuz of what they said or getting people banned for saying L + ratio
@@retna1x363 that is true but it was twitch’s horrible decision to ban him and not pokimane
@@retna1x363 The L + ratio spam is the least problematic aspect of the situation, regardless he broke tos and continued harassment on other platforms after the 14 day ban. He should have stopped but he didn’t, and should have expected some type of punishment or repercussion. Also L + ratio
Pokimane: *says exactly what ninja said it in her own voice*
Jess: so you've chosen death
how many subs can I get from this comment? Current: 616
@@2kchallengewith4video no
"Your honor, I'd like to argue that my voice doesn't sound like that. It's at least a few octaves lower."
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@@2kchallengewith4video sad as fuuuuuck 🤣
"He knows this is a stupid idea with tears in his eyes" 😭😭😭😭😭😭
This is what’s known as a SLAPP suit, which stands for Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation.
Even if they did actually take it to court, they would never win the case. Does Ninja even know how hard it is to win a lawsuit over defamation of character?
he will prob just think the judge is Stream sniping him
did you watch the video? his wife made the lawsuit not ninja. its not that hard to grasp
@@cibinomin6540 was about to say the same thing, people are missing the mark so much sometimes
@@cibinomin6540 You cannot sue for defamation of character on behalf of someone else without said individual consenting and being part of the lawsuit. Ninja is not some baby that's unaware of his wife/manager's decisions, he is 100% in on this.
Ninja has to lose his job to even have a chance at defamation. And even then, he has to prove she did it by lying.
Maybe Ninja’s wife/manager shouldn’t also be his PR manager in times like these
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The thing is Ninja tried to talk to her but he's not good at talking to people it seems like he's not doing it seriously. But I think his Wife does it better
You would think cause that’s too biased
Yeah, she’s obviously biased.
That's very sexist. You wouldn't say that if she were his husband.
Poki shoulda just responded to Jessica “watch my clips ,watch my clips “
The battle of the tier 3 subs will be legendary
Interesting thing about all this: when you sue a public figure, in addition to proving defamation you have to also prove that it was done intentionally for malicious purposes, ie financial fallout, etc. So it’s straight up not gonna happen. Ninja would never win that lawsuit
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Famous Twitch streamer doesn't automatically mean IRL public figure, *however* considering all Poki did was just read a situation and say literally nothing further, there is obviously no case here.
Ninja's wife deserves to have her law license revoked on the spot for threatening that over the equivalent of reading a book.
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I would be surprised if this goes past a Tweet. Ninja just straight up loses if this actually goes. Hell Poki wouldn't even need a lawyer she could just represent herself that is how laughable this is. Because Ninja has literally 0 evidence to bring up if all she did was resay what he said and showed public clips. I think even a toddler could beat Ninja by themselves in this "case."
"And his wife made everything significantly worse" as ninjas wife usually does 🤣
what else has she done? _grabs popcorn_
@@jrhooman exists
@@freshwater7633 based
@@prosto_lucky reddit admin
@@jrhooman watch the xqc video on the ninja xqc twitter beef
He kinda of acting like a tier 3 sub rn
People be doing the hardest mental gimanstics to justify how misogyny doesn't exist
is it worst than killing people
@@happy_man_x uhh no... I don't think so, killing people is pretty messed up, why do you bring that up anyways?
It does but pokimane is not the victim of it and should be banned for false copy striking and being a fucking scumbag.
Stop defending her just cause she's a woman.
Ninja's manager is his wife?
Predicting a divorce in a few years!
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Yep. Watch Ninja slip up once.
That guy 'Ninja' seems toxic...
Yeah, Jess "Karen" Blevins has been his manager for years.
i hate pokimane, her twitch viewers are simps, imagine unironically liking pokimane
“I swear on my grandfather’s life who just passed away”
Now that’s something that makes it the ultimate truth
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my grandfather passed away about 10 times when I was in high school and needed a day off
It sounds so much like something middle school kid would say.
That quote doesn't make any sense
(8:39) Your dog disappeared out of this air 👻
When I first saw the title, I thought it said "Pokémon sued by Ninja" and thought that's what the video was about until Charlie mentioned Pokimane. Then I re-read the title and everything made sense.
Respect to Charlie with the huge balls to post this, ninja's wife is probably suing him as we speak.
I love reading these types of comments cuz it sounds like something Charlie would say
I actually hope she will sue charlie, that would make this a shitton funnier lol
@@zoinksscoob6523 😂
That gave me a good laugh, thanks 🤣
@@jay.u he will, and hell get free money
"I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away,"
That literally means nothing Ninja. He's already dead.
Lmao I'm glad someone pointed this out.
🤣
@UCXeR1VUcl8z8TXNS3sC8wKQ it's still dumb because he is not alive. If that was the case he would say, "I swear on my grandfather's soul."
@@shaunlevin5081 i think thats the point/
🤨 it's just swearing on a person life or the someone close to them. That's a reach
The internet is high school drama.
"I didn't even know ninja says bad words" Nah I cant even
"I never knew ninja said bad words"
Ninja:
"THE FUCK YOU SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE SHIT"
I was thinking of that clip after he said that lmao
I can’t read that without hearing it in Ninja’s voice
Words you can hear
Ah, classic
Tbf, i always forget too but then i hear those words echoing in the back of my mind
How dare Poki defame Ninja by showing exactly what he said
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tier 3 poki sub headass☠️
She read what he said and implied he was aiding someone in ban avoidance, also implied he was using his pull within twitch to do so. There's a word for that and its corruption.
@@ralcogaming7674 tier 3 no 🐱
@@ralcogaming7674 you can't be punished for implying things
I like how you don’t show much bias and you say it how it is. Much love👍🏽
i love how poki says Dijon referring to jidion
Me: Why do people like reading about celebrities so much? that's such garbage
Me watching the latest streamer drama: 👀
lmao i love out of all people jidion caused all this, but still, jidion is the goat
you don't need to, just watch short summary provided by charlie and it'll be good
It's pretty much the new celebrity drama/bullshit that crazy people LOVE to follow. It was bound to happen once CZcams and Twitch got to where they are today. Content creators truly are the new generation of celebrity.
It’s kinda like junk food. You know it’s bad for you but you eat it anyway.
Ah damn you got me
Better watch yourself Charlie. With that criteria, you could get sued too.
Lawsuit for you, lawsuit for you, lawsuits for everyone!
@@Bulls_Aye My father once said "Sharing is caring"
@@Bulls_Aye communism! let's-a go
It can not happen in this world but it can happen in naruto world 🌍
Criteria lmao how did no one notice that yet
Thank you for speaking up against bs like this. Respect.
He literally completely glossed over the beginning part of this whole s***. Pokémon years back with saying racist ass shit. Jideon called her out and ofc he gets perma banned when she's the one calling people nigga on stream. I'm not saying he should have responded to racism with misogyny, but it's important to know why he did it
"Hey future charlie here, still super greasy" what Charlie would hear if he met his future self
Ninja, assassinating his image for some sweet sweet drama views.
How?
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar yeah ima put this in a file for I can clown on you when you get there
Hey Pupsker love your videos!
Puppy
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@@no-ut4ln he’s suing because she reacted to a clip and he doesn’t like it and then pretends to be a victim
For drama
4:17
"I swear on my grandfather's life, who just passed away..."
Sorry for your loss, Tyler, but it's pretty damn worthless to swear on the life of someone who's already dead.
💀
That was the joke.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 doubt
Damn this guy is smart
Or in general
Oh God when he called him Tyler xD
Ninja legit looks like the type to sue somebody in a heartbeat.
Attorney Tom made a great video discussing the legal aspect of the whole thing. Basically, Ninja has no ground to stand on when it comes to suing her. Laughable really how they decided to try and threaten a lawsuit over something they themselves said and she just repeated.
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She didn't repeat it though, she straight up lied about what he said.
“I wonder if he would do this if it was a guy” claiming he’s only saying it cuz she’s a women. Idk man, seems like twisting what he’s saying
@@yourmother5899 Saying “I wonder” doesn’t hold the same weight legally as “He WOULD be different if I was a guy”. Y’all can debate all you want but legally he can’t do shit and nothing she said can be held against her for defamation
Imagine being so high on blue hair dye that you give Pokimane an easy win in the most ridiculous of frivolous lawsuits to ever be made.
At least the bots change the headlines to be topical with current events.
poki was crying over nothing, this whole thing is just dedrateR
I don’t care about either it’s just entertainment but what has she done wrong?
@@tuckerhumphrey7693 constantly cry over everything and make everything larger then it actually is
@@tuckerhumphrey7693 always trying to be the victim
I've only seen a few of your videos like this, but I have to say, you are the last rational person on the internet. You approach a situation so professionally, and deconstruct it in a way most anyone can understand. It's nice to see this sort of rational thought on the internet for once.
Sueing a person that just says facts will bring you no good, i learned this in a pretty hard way
I feel bad for the judge that had to deal with this "case"
It's not going to happen. It was just an empty threat
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Finally
@tretret ertertert I'm gonna fuck this bot
A large portion of court cases are just brands arguing with each other anyway
@@journeyerjyoti8642 I will steal your kitchen floors!
I’m also happy Charlie calls out that shit dealing with sexism and people defending those claims. It’s fucking nuts that people can act like it doesn’t go on
Yeah it’s weird how the internet acts if you ever reason/empathize with a woman, then you’re a simp
@@dathunderman4 its literally 1st grade mentality that all girls are bad
@@dathunderman4 its cause women have too much empathy given to them in the west , they are the most privledged class of people in the entire world , you cant compliment them without being a simp is the pendulum swing back because you cant criticize or judge a woman without being sexist cause america is all about gender and race and always being the victim because playinga victim is a big time reward.
that countries gonna fall like rome good luck western people it wont help though.
@@CyberPunkBadGuy your mother also must’ve felt like a victim after she gave birth to you
@@CyberPunkBadGuy "Most priviledged class of people in the entire world"?
I'm a girl, you don't even know how much shlt we have to deal with by simply existing. Whatever we do and whatever we wear, we always get harassed, sexualized and be creep on. People like you always talk as if you knew sht. You know Charlie's video "This guy seems to hate women"?
Watch it because it features YOU.
Wow the power that goes to people’s heads is insane. Ninja and his wife are literally living in their own sick twisted world and the rest of us are here in reality.
The fact that this makes headlines shows a lot about the society we live in now
Isn’t it weird when the news talks about extremely famous people
I'll give them credit for trying to sue each other. It's refreshing compared to the usual stuff like sexual harassment or using no-no words on a live stream.
@Sida Saloma you two not coordinate this properly?
@@M333STA those are bots homie
@Mbita Acoustic Guitar ill need your uncles full name, location, dob, credit card information, and age and then ill tell him to get you a new camera dw i got u
did you watch the video?
@@apocfaildotorg ik, but id thought they would do something like assigning different zones in the comment section
"I didn't even know ninja says bad words" Charlie, you haven't even seen Ninja's true dark side
Don't let this distract you from the fact that I get bullied because my classmates think my videos are the worst. Please don't agree, dear zer
@@AxxLAfriku OH yeah? Did you promote them on their videos too? I'm going to for one time in my life say you probably deserved it.. Bot.
@AbruhTheOfficalKing It's probably a bot dude
@@nerdjournal he’s not a bot I think, just a troll.
@@AxxLAfriku Wtf
"This drama was unfolding while i was lifting"
damn hes a beast.
This really is some high school drama
Im proud of you Charlie, you got number 1 trending in he gaming category.
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Really normal for him I don’t think he even noticed
Same
Hows is this shit gaming ?
@@Thevol40k that's the joke lol
Would be hilarious if he went through with a lawsuit just so he doesn't have to tell his wife what she did was dumb.
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lol I wouldn't put it past him tbh
That would be perfect. 🤣😂
he's cucced real bad lol
poki was crying over nothing, this whole thing is just dedrateR
the H1Z1 ninja came back out for a second LMFAO
I like how unbiasedly he presented and gave his opinion rather than flaming one side
There’s no way their actually considering filing this law suit without doing an amazing amount of blow before.
Who’s racking them up then👃 ❄️
you ready to come back for arcane s2, jinx? or are you sitting it out?
they're*
@@sportyj I honestly can't wait for season 2
@@zeorph who are you the grammar police ?
Ninja: "I did something"
pokemane: *repeats what he did*
Ninja: *throws tantrum and proceed legal action*
While Ninja is far from blameless in this, Pokimane isn’t exactly being the fairest story teller. I wouldn’t expect her to be, but people are acting like every word coming out of her mouth is a clean and unbiased fact
@@Fire_truck_man she not wrong at all in the case tho.
@@Fire_truck_man Ok pesudo intellectual tell me exactly what she said was wrong, lmao.
@@Fire_truck_man This opinion makes me more convinced that internet has biased negative impressions in every female streamers since tye start of the simp era.
Can someone please tell me what's sexist about this?
Is it the fact that jidion got banned for targeting harassment and yet pokimane did the same thing and got away with it?
Ninjas Hyper is starting to reveal himself
Ninja has some sort of reputation to keep, and ninja's wife being obviously his wife and manager. She's gonna take it as more of a personal attack to her husband rather than "client" I think getting legal teams involved is incredibly stupid. But I guess it's each their own.
I didn't think this drama couldn't escalate more, funny how this all started from "L+ratio"
susan is really a nice ceo, especially when she removed dislikes but doesn’t remove bots
If pokimaine watched a single jidion video she would know it was all jokes
L+ratio is now in a legal document somewhere
@@Pyronek it’s not jokes when she would’ve been getting threats on every one of her platforms, you can’t be that dumb to believe that people were only saying “l + ratio” and nothing else. let’s be real for a second
@YeaMan L+Ratio
Is honestly amazing how bad Ninja's wife is at defending her husband
Especially when it didn’t involve her
@@ethangreen5416 it kinda does since she’s his manager meaning like the backbone of his brand, but still her response was fucking braindead
Poki deserves it from what she's did to Whatsagundam
I get she wanted to defend Ninja cuz that's the most human thing you can do in a relationship, but the difference is she's his manager too, so she genuinely has to restrain herself from doing shit like that. RIP to Ninja's bank account if this lawsuit does make it to court.
@@ethangreen5416 Nothing ever does. She’s been attempting to ride the clout train ever since he moved out of the basement. All she does is answer emails
“i didn’t even know ninja said bad words” lmaooo
i just found out about this the whole drama and thought to myself "im sure charlie has something to say about this" and here i am