Game Room Solutions Mini 27 inch Virtual Pinball Machine 4K Version 2 Review - Is It Now Good?
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2021
- Today we take a look at the new version of the mini virtual pinball cabinet from Game Room Solutions. This is a version 2 from them, but does it improve upon the terrible first version i reviewed in the past? Lets take a look.
Solenoids All in One Kit ( if adding a shaker, be sure to contact Phillip before purchase so he is aware you need that wired to his power supply ) : www.clevelandsoftwaredesign.c...
Dayton Speakers i used for SSF: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Speaker Grill Covers: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08...
USB 7.1 Suound Card: www.ebay.com/itm/202700312802
PC GPU Used: 1660 Nvidia
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Nice video. I've been looking at this machine so I'm glad to hear they fixed most of the issues they had before. It is disappointing the DMD mounting doesn't have the proper holes for the wiring, but that's not the end of the world. Good job in setting this up - it's definitely impressive.
Superb video, very articulated and concise in explaining your mods on GRS cabinet! Been thinking to purchase one of the kit from GRS but was hesitating between mid size 32” or full size 43”. But knowing what can be fitted in 27” makes me know how much expansion it can do.
Your explanation on the differences between solenoid and shaker and the kit is well! Before I simply can’t get why it is needed.
You’re probably the only video which I came across that emphasise on surround sound 😂 Looking forward for more about your pinball cabinet mod🎉
I have this same cab! Have been happy with it. May make a video about it to help others as well. Haven’t done the plunger, surround sound, shaker or solenoids but even still happy with it. Great video!
I got a kit for this a few days ago. The issues I found were: 1. A few holes were not drilled correctly. 2. The pinball leg on the back-right of the cabinet was pulling the the wood piece out of alignment. I only put the screws on wrist tight. The front legs were fine as the left-back was ok too. The next issue I see in the future is when I want to upgrade the monitor in the head. That is going to be a big pain. Not as bad as putting this thing together was. It took me 2 days to put it together and figure out how to fix the leg bracket/misaligned holes. I still haven't setup the PC yet! I do have a solution for anyone who would want to add a PC inside this. I bought a Open Air Graphics Card Bracket 4 GPU Computer Chassis Mining Rig Frame Case. That is what it was called on Ebay. It mounts the motherboard and power supply to it. You can also attach to the side a SSD drive. I am happy with it but it isn't going to be perfect. Keep that in mind and you may have to do a few minor things to it. I just wanted to let others know what I found and don't blow off this cabinet. It does look really good!
My DMD screen came with a right angle HDMI adapter that worked pretty well for fitting it into the cab. I don't know if they all come with it but the adapter is around.
Good to know mine def didn’t
What dmd did you use? Same with which monitors. Im new to this and thinking of pulling the trigger.
How is the response time on the monitor? I bought a 4K 28 once years ago in it put me off on the 4K displays because there was a noticeable button lag. What monitor are you using? Are you running max mhz?
which monitor did you use for the back glass?
Awesome. I have the GRS full size cab I'm almost finished with. I've modded it quit a bit so that I can lift up the playfield to mod the inside when I want. Overall I'm happy with it. Did you get a build for the software and tables from somewhere or put that together yourself?
I use pinball emporium and then add my own tables on top of that
I just got a 27" cabinet this Christmas (2022) and in general I am happy with it, but there are three things I need to contact them about:
1. The trap door underneath sits the full thickness of the door below the bottom of the cabinet and the latch doesn't line up right.
2. Both of the rear pieces of wood that the legs attach to torque out towards the rear the machine eve at finger tightness and the legs are still wobbly. I tightened them more and may install L brackets to hold them in place.
3. The top box door is too tall so I can't close it.
So in the end two doors are removed and the rear leg supports are bowed out.
And yes the instructions are still terrible and in my case, the video was missing the same steps the print ones were so had to wing it.
And yes they need to label the panels. You can very easily install some parts backwards (especially the vesa mounts) because while the cam holes are ever so slightly different on opposite sides, you can still attach them backwards and won't find out until too late.
Most of my build time was disassembly to flip stuff over.
After watching your review I am regretting not getting a DMD much less now. I'm using it just for pinball fx3 and vertical shooters in mame. For PC I am using a Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny M70q.
mine is bowed out from all angles, my lower door wouldn't fit correctly and my back door doesn't either. it's definitely wonky. i got it with no graphics so I saved money there, I'm glad I did.
Nice job building this. A few things I was curious about with this setup. Do you have a make/model of the 27 inch playfield and top monitor? Also, are you getting 60 fps at least on all these tables?
i never have a fps counter to make sure its 60 fps, but feels like 60fps to me, never notice any lag or anything, and its alway sbeen said a 1660 can handle 4k pinball with no issues at 60 fps so should be good. As far as the top box, its the one GRS reccoemends on there website. 4K screen unfortunetly i dont have the model off hand since ive had it for over a year now and i cant see the model under the cab since its covered. it is a AOC though.
So you use a 28" aoc 4k?
Can you tell me @UrGamingTechie how you got your playfield plexiglass installed? I would love to get mine like that. It would make it easier to get inside it seems?
I’m Confused on this question. Plexi was sort of the package, I didn’t install it in any particular way other then following game room solutions “instructions”
i don't know trying to fit a computer in that cabinet it be very tight fit . i have a atgames ALP machine i know it would be very challenging fitting a computer in my cabinet and ALP are 32" cabinet . i don't know if i ever go smaller then 32" for a pinball machine and my 32" is pretty small . arcade 1up pinball is real small pinball machine to i think it a 24" screen . i think your pinball machine really nice you did a great job with it .
Another question I just thought of, you mentioned you've got about $1,500 into this virtual pinball machine. Could you break it down in general where the money was spent? Cpu with gpu, monitors and dmd, accessories. Also, did you get any extras on the gameroomsolutions base model you purchased for $300?
Grs cabinet with buttons and graphics was almost 500. 4K screen another 150-200, dmd 65$, back glass - 100$. Pc about 800-1000. Solenoids prebuilt - 400, shaker 60$, amps and speakers for ssf 200$.
Looks good. Careful. That backbox is awfully close to the furnace exhaust pipe. They get hot !
Yea got to monitor that when the furnace goes on in the winter, currently off. It’s really close but doesn’t really touch it but got to take a look to make sure once it’s winter
I know this is a mid size, but how high is it off the ground? Is it comfortable to play standing up? Or do you need a stool or something?
I’m 5’8 and it’s good for me. There’s also some leg extensions you can buy..
Did you buy the mini subwoofer speaker they sell also or does the shaker serve as a type of sub?
Shaker is more then enough for this size
Ciao mi sai dire quanto dev essere l altezza da terra compreso le gambe di pinball virtuale di 27 pollici
How do you like the shaker? It's the one Cleveland software recommends?
Yes it is and I’m liking it it’s loud as hell on some tables lol
How did you plug 3 monitors into your pc? Does your video card have 3 hdmi ports?
Video card supports 3 hdmi and DisplayPort adapters
Nice! Why did you decide to lower the screen this time around as opposed to having it mounted against the plexiglass?
Couple reasons. One is I wanted to try this out. Technically I hear this slant is how some people say it should be. With the screen at the front high and back lower. Second is I might eventually take out the plexi glass and have led lights on the back wall, and the screen had to be more down towards the back if I did that. So far after a couple weeks, I like it. Idk if I can say I like one way over the other, I like them both either way and not mad using it in either form.
@@UrGamingTechie Thanks for the infomative reply. I put my cam lock screws one notch above the bottom holes just like in the video instructions and now that the main body is assembled I question whether or not its too low. I am debating disassembling it to raise it a bit because the monitor is resting on the top flipper buttons. do you remember the holes you used I like the height of yours.
@@dwightisrael5056 the exact middle one for me
@@UrGamingTechie Thanks! Much appreciated.
You said you had a usb plunger? Which one did you buy? Nice video!
this one virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=105
what gpu and cpu are you using to run 4k on yours? I'm in the process of building a PC for mine and I want to make sure it can handle it.
2070 super
@@UrGamingTechie thanks!
Why is the front decal upside down?
Gotta watch the video lol
Which Pinball frontend software are you using?
This was pinball emporium but I switched to pinup popper now which I will do a video on
Very nice. But why is your front panel upside down.? That would bug my ocd. Disregard i watched the rest. Bad QC
I did get a replacement piece couple days ago but idk when I’ll want to dismantle everything lol. At least it’s stranger things and I can pretend it’s the “upside down” lmao
what size is that playing field it look it smaller then a 32"
It’s in the title, it’s a 27inch which is what fits in this
i thought most computers last 5-7 years haves a onboard 7.1 sound card
For the price and having a 4K screen makes this a much better solution vs at games. Especially since you need a pc to
play any good tables on the at games anyway
Agreed, i like this better for my taste since i knew i wanted a 4k screen and all the bells and whistles. At Games does have some cool stuff like leaderboards etc. But if i want that i could get my fill playing fx3 on my table which has all that for those tables at least. To be Fair though, this build with everything i did easy hits over 1500$ which is more then AtGames
@@UrGamingTechie Zaccaria Pinball on Steam has leaderobards too. I'm kinda on the fence myself. I could see myself going with ATGames and then just modding it so much that it's basically a custom build anyway, just because I like the build of their cabinet. Not the backbox though. I'd redo that. My only hesitation is that I haven't seen any screen swap mods for the playfield. Being able to put a 4K/high refresh monitor in there would be ideal. The route you went is a very compelling option though.
Upside down great idea
My arcade cabinets have to be all encompassing. No way I could have a PC sitting on the floor in plain view powering it. But I understand why you did it. It just wouldn't work for me.
I bought a cabinet from Ryan at GRS back in 2019. It came with missing and some broken cams. I emailed him and asked him to send replacements, and he told me to go to a hardware store. I sent a follow up email asking him what size to get, and he just ignored me. Screw this company.
Nice video but did game room solutions put the stranger things front panel graphics upside down? Lol they are a terrible company . Their customer service is the worst ever . Oh just saw the rest of the video. They suck bro. Seriously . I’m surprised you even got a call back
They did but they did send me a new one about two weeks later with it printed correctly, don’t know when I’ll want to dismantle this to redo it though lol
@@UrGamingTechie , no you did a great job, that company is total trash! I saved a months worth of emails going back and forth with them because they didn’t have their automated email service properly setup. I literally called them 5 or so times but couldn’t leave messages because mailboxes were full.
Then the owner tried to threaten me with a email claiming they were gonna close my order and keep the payment because I must be satisfied since she claimed “I wasn’t responding to their emails” and the dumb woman running things there , forgot to take out all the email history when she emailed me that, so literally all my emails to them were attached to her email!! Lol I saved all of it just to show how terrible of a company they are. She literally clicked reply all , not knowing it would send all my emails she was getting that she was lying about not getting. Lol
@@JerseyJohnnysElectronicsGaming your not alone. they are notorious for shitty customer service. I think thats the owners wife on the hone and email and she is a piece of work. so many people including myself have received wrong parts, no parts or some snafu from her. I found out about their poor customer service the hard way. Did not do the research until my order showed up. Probably would have gone a different route otherwise.
How is FX3 on a real cabinet like this? Does it include support for surround sound/haptics/etc?
Fx3 can use that stuff if you setup doflinx
@@UrGamingTechie have you tried it out? I plan on building a cabinet similar to yours soon and I love the FX3 tables and graphics
@@ap2708 no I haven’t, it’s a pain to setup and I didn’t particular care not to have surround sound for fx3 tables, I have solenoids on the flippers that were good enough for me
@@UrGamingTechie that makes sense, how has the table held up over the year or so you’ve had it?