My favorite way to DRT/MRS climb saddle hunting.
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- čas přidán 1. 10. 2022
- Quick demonstration of how I climb when saddle hunting. IMO the easiest safest way to climb while saddle hunting. Keep it simple. one hitch , no tieing knots in the field , no physical effort to climb. so easy it can be done with one hand. if you want to get the gear to do this check us out on
www.newyorksaddlehunter.com
Joe, I like this a lot. Got my hand ascender and rope. For me a 75 year old, this might be the best yet!! Thanks guys.
That hand ascender looks to be a climbers best friend, I can't wait to get one 😄
I think every climber should learn bare bones drt first and build out from there. You guys are cool dudes
Thanks! I may try that, looks easier.
I'm new to climbing but on my first descend ever I instinctively put that bite under my thigh to the opposite hand; it just seemed obvious. Not only does it provide some added safety in case any part of the bridge fails, but you can pull up and take some weight off the Blake's or Prusik which makes the knot slide better or frees it up if it's a bit locked up.
Great video. Did a DNA test 3years ago, I was left in an orphanage when I was 3. Got lucky and was raised by farm people with good values. I live out west but both my parents were originally from New York and Pennsylvania. I've made several trips back and have met many relatives. Most live around Watkins Glen. I'm an avid hunter and would love to come back and hunt where my father and ancestors hunted. I have been wanting to use a tree saddle for years. Elk and deer are my main focus. I bowhunt Wyoming every year and love hunting dark timber. Wind is everything in elk hunting, the mountains are 7,000 to 9,000 ft where I hunt. The wind constantly changes direction and swirls. We hunt 3 to 7 miles back in typically weight and bulk are our enemies. Even if we have horses there is only so much room. Full size tree stands are to big n bulky and noisy. Anyways I'm going to get a deer tag in 2 years for New York. I would love to have you help me get set up. Please send me a message on my email.
Hit me up at hunterclimbingsolutions@gmail.com
hunterclimbingsolutions@gmail.com.
Watch you guys all the time. Great stuff and thanks for sharing your knowledge. What type of ascender are you using in this video?
Thanks Mark in this video im using a petzl hand ascender with a singing rock foot loop attached with a soft shackle
So I was looking at the drt kit on your site. Could you provide a list of the other necessary purchases to try and replicate this method? I’m super green to all of this but it looks like a really great way to get up a tree. Coming from using a tree climber prior to this and want to make the switch either late season or next season
75' rope
8mm prusik
2 locking carabiners
Petzl hand ascender
Singing rock footloop
Small soft shackle to connect the footloop to the ascender.
How long of a rope do you prefer? Current use 100’ but seems to long for most trees
75'
Should a split tail be milked and burned like any other rope? I got a factory tight-eye split tail but it did NOT come with burned end so the core is sticking out after use.
Cant hurt to milk and burn the end. Ive never needed to do it but you could try. Some split tails use heat resistant fibers so they wont burn do to friction. So they might not melt and that may be why .
Hey guys, great video and thank you for the info. Im new to this so just trying to learn as much as I can. Are you using the predator rope? When using hand/foot ascenders do they tear up the rope any? Do you have to use some special kind of rope? Thanks again.
In this video Im using a predator rope but Ill be going to sterling superstatic in the near future. Good quality climbing lines are abrasion resistent and not impacted by limb friction . My rope was purchased in 2018 and I climb several times a week all year long and its like new still
@@NYSaddleHunter Thank you. I think what you've demonstrated here is the way I need to go.
@@awac4577 I plan to make a more in depth video breaking it down and show a few variations like self tending hitch , its works really well I think lots of people. Thanks!⁰
If you need any help making a selection. Feel free to reach out to Joe or myself with any questions you may have. All our gear is at : www.newyorksaddlehunter.com/
Joe, can you get that rig to self tend the blakes? If so, thats what im looking to get.
Yes the best way to tend the Blake's hitch is to use a micro pulley like the CT roll N lock in pulley mode under the Blake's hitch . We tie it off to to the working side with a paracord prusik . Works great. Check it out
czcams.com/video/-2Xp2TuofSQ/video.html
We now sell everything you need for DRT/MRS , SRT, and single stick climbing on our website : www.newyorksaddlehunter.com/
Hi Joe, I see you're not using a caribeaner to attach the footloop to the hand acender. How did you go about doing that?
Im using a small soft shackle
Is there any way you can demonstrate the wrap you did on the carabiner connecting the main line to your bridge?
Here is a video I made showing this .
czcams.com/video/B9PFgKQmP4U/video.html
Where did you get the foot strap seen in the video? I have a new one that will came in the SRT HUNTKIT2 from WESSPUR that simply will not hold any weight no matter how I connect the foot strap the to top portion with the buckles.
Not sure which one you have . Wesspur would substitute a out of stock item without notifying us . Singing rock is the one we ran for years. It is out of stock right now . I have a weaver foot loop substitute for now . I’m not crazy about it . The footloop is real bulky but it does adjust easily.
Update, I went back to look at the pictures on the WesSpur site and the strap connections to the steel keepers were not mounted correctly from the factory. I went back an zoomed in on the WesSpur item pictures and corrected the configuration, and now it works.
@@Number1VolFan We don’t have an affiliation with Wesspur anymore. So I can’t speak to what their offering you
Do you recommend any specific hand acender and footloop?
For DRT any hand ascender will work im usingva petzl and I really like it light, quiet. We sell on our website the weaver footloop www.Newyorksaddlehunter.com
Another good footloop is the singing rock
If the main rope doesn’t have a sewn eye what termination knot would you tie?
I use a fishermans knot
You made that climb look very easy. Maybe this 53 yr old, 245 lb guy could do it. Are you guys selling kits?
Yes go to www.newyorksaddlehunter.com/
How those ropes were settled on the tree? Thanks
If I understand your question we use a trowball to set our climbing line through a crotch of a branch in the tree.
What do you do for trees with no limbs?
How often do you have to replace ropes? Depending on how often you hunt, you would have to replace your rope 2 or 3 times a year from all the rubbing against the tree.
For trees with no limbs we single stick climb those. The rope Im clombing on a a double braid arborist rope. DRT/MRS climbing is a aborist tree access standard thats been around a long time. The rope im using in this video is 5 years old and I climb all year long on it and its like new. These rope are designed for this application will last a hunter a long time. What beats up a rope isnt the friction on the tree its tge friction in the hitch if you rambo out of a tree fast. If you repel out slow its not an issue. I inspect my ropes before or after each climb in case there was foreign metal in the tree that might potentially damage the rope but as I said the rope in this video was purchased in 2018 and I climb several times a week all year long and its like new. Its a common misconception that tree friction will make the rope life short. I think its probably a good idea to retire a rope every 5 or so years but your not going to wear out a good quality climbing rope that easily . The only way you can his decending too fast. Drcend slow and it will last many years.
@@NYSaddleHunter Would 8mm Resc Tech work in this application or do you need specific arborist ropes?
Trees with no limbs we either install a false crotch preseason or single stick climb them.
Good quality climbing ropes are abration resistent and designed to take friction. The friction on the tree limb doesnt effect the rope. The only way to damage the rope is to decend too quickly and create fruction heat in the hitch. MRS/DRT climbing has been the standard for tree rope access for 50 years. This particular rope im using in the video was purchased in 2018. I climb at a minimum 3 times a week and sonetimes 3 times a day. I climb more than most guys will and my rope looks like it did the day I bought it in 2018. They will last the average hunter many years but as a rule we like to tell people its probably a good practice to replace your line every 5 years as a general rule or if the rope gets damaged by foreign metal in a tree or somthing like that. When in doubt replace it but for the average hunter its going to last you many years and tree friction wont harm a quality climbing rope
@@cohesive3482 Ive not used it but thats a quality rope Im sure it would work fine with the right hitch
How long is the shipping on your rope? I need one asap.
Its in stock so depending on where you are few days
What saddle is that ur using in this video?
Its the flatbranch solitude 2.0 but , flatbranch went out of buissiness and screwed a bunch of people out of their $ in the process. Great saddle , but I have nothing good to say about the owners of that company...
Sorry to hear that. They might have bit off more than they could chew. Thanks for the heads up.
I'm sorry, but my favorite part of this video is all that firewood! Great job! That's a LOT of work! I know.
Thats what tree guys do , cut wood 🙂
@@NYSaddleHunter Indeed!
This is the only way to hunt huge tree's! I have one spot where saddle with DRT is the only mobile option. You guys should somehow patent it, you pioneered (are poineering) it. Years from now when your famous, I can tell people I know you.
Well this isnt our invention. Theyve been doing DRT climbing in the arborist industry for decades . I cant say Ive ever seen it done this way by anyone else but that doesnt mean others havent done it this way before. They probably just didnt have a youtube channel lol
@@NYSaddleHunter I've read John Eberharts books 20 years ago, he didn't hit mainstream until CZcams, now he's a rock star in his 70's!
@@underdogoutdoors I had a huge white oak I was in last week. There wasn't a crotch last March that I could use to climb up the good side of the 🌳. So I got up 20 feet into it & tied off. Then I threw a throwball over another crotch that was just a little higher. Cuz I was tied into the 🌳 with 1 foot on a branch I disconnected my climbing rope & put it over the new crotch. When I got up as high as I could I had a thick branch parallel to the ground to stand on. I tied off once again but this time I put my climbing rope which was over the new crotch & brought the sewn end side to my left over the old crotch. By having a double crotch with 1 crotch slightly lower & off to the side a couple of feet I can now pull myself up the good side of the 🌳. Those big trees r the best but sometimes u need to do the groundwork post-season for them to become epic.
@@josephtreadlightly5686 Giant lonely trees are buck magnets too!
@@underdogoutdoors yeah, especially when there is a Cedar tree nearby to rip up.
Your actually using your muscles to lift. Ie: leg/arm mucles
Not really because as you step into the footloop your body weight pulls the rope over the crotch , this is why I say your not really using your muscles to lift yourself your weight pulls down on the one end drawing the working end up towards the crotch then when you advance the hitch you hold in place. If you use two hands and your weight its more stable but in my hand im hanging on to the hand ascender that holds the rope and your actually not really excerting your muscles at all the key is the mechanical advantage and stepping your weight into the footloop. If Im using muscle than Id be saying this chubby 55 year old dude climbed with one hand up a rope. Thats not happening. I used by weight and mechanical advange to move the working end up.
I can use my muscles if I want but as I demonstated if I can do it with one hand its not being done by pulling myself up a rope with muscle strength .
When climbing anything we will always use somevstabilizing muscle but in this method it truly is mechanical advantage , body weght and advancing a friction hitch thats doing the work not lifting your self with muscle up a rope
I think Joe's just referring to the mechanical advantage of the double rope with the strength of the thighs makes it feel easy. He's only lifting a portion of his body weight with each step hence not using much muscle. I like to do the same thing by holding a long bite just under the Blake's knot with both hands and stepping up on the loop.