Symphony No. 44 "Trauer" in E minor - Haydn (Score)

[@yoboifranny7021]

Thanks so much!
0:03 I - Allegro con brio
8:42 II - Menuetto
13:56 III - Adagio
22:50 IV - Presto

[@thomasrengel5577]

Just discovered this today. Great they did all the repeats! I'm reliving my misspent you when ""I discovered Haydn in my early teens. While others did Rock I did Haydn. Didn't go to my first rock concert until the 1990's--Steeleye Span!

[@JohannaA.5013]

This is the first Haydn Symphony I heard. The inner melancholy is indeed adorable.
Although I prefer a slower first movement, the Orchestra and Conductor are doing a great performance. The Menuetto is sad and slow.

[@jasonmackie316]

Symphony No. 44 was my introduction to Haydn, way back in 1985, the B side of a Mozart Symphony No. 40 CD I borrowed from the library to listen to for homework. I was moved to tears by music for the first time in my life by the third movement, which I think is far more impactful, and far more beautiful when played at largo tempo rather than at its namesake.
But, changing the playback speed to 75% fulfills this purpose rather nicely.

[@betatester4713]

11:15 lovely horn solo

[@osamafathy5786]

Ein Meisterwerk Haydns, der Lehrer von Mozart und Beethoven. Vielen Dank für die schöne Aufnahme von dem Bayerischem Radio Sinfonie Orchester unter der Leitung von Sir John Eliot Gardiner und für Ihre mit dem Score Begleitarbeit

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

Haydn was not teacher to Mozart, and taught only counterpoint from Fux’s manual to Beethoven from November 1792 (Beethoven’s arrival in Vienna) until January 1794 (Haydn’s departure to England for his second visit).

[@shkedov.b]

This symphony is so underestimated, should've been recognized more

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

This symphony is not underestimated; it is pretty much universally accepted as one of the greatest ‘sturm und drang’ style symphonies by any composer.

[@christianwouters6764]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 This was recognised by Haydn himself it seems. I read somewhere that he wanted the slow movement played on his own funeral.

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@christianwouters6764
The origins of this story about Haydn wanting the slow movement of Symphony 44 played at his funeral are lost in the mists of time, but they are almost certainly apocryphal.
Due to a combination of factors - most obviously the critical and deteriorating war situation in Vienna* - the funeral was not as it would have been in normal times.
Additionally, there was the fact that the weather of 31 May 1809 - the day Haydn died - was unseasonably hot; this meant that the body turned green and began decomposing almost immediately, and therefore, along with the problems caused by the French occupation, Haydn was buried the following day with very little fuss, and virtually no music.
We also know from the grave robbers who stole the skull that same night that the corpse smelled abominably (the pseudo-scientific interest in phrenology was all the rage at the time).
Two weeks later, there was a memorial service on 15 June at which Mozart’s Requiem was played, but at neither the funeral, nor the memorial service, was the beautiful adagio from the Trauer symphony played; my feeling is that nobody was aware of Haydn’s alleged request - because he never made it.
* The story of the terror caused in Haydn’s household by the French shells landing nearby in the days just before his death, is well known.

[@bpage4132]

This is my all-time favourite Haydn symphony, especially I like the third movement, in which I like most of all.

[@philipkuttner7945]

Haydn asked for it to be played at his funeral

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@philipkuttner7945
He didn’t; if interested, you will find a more detailed explanation elsewhere under this performance.

[@laurencegray4720]

Thank you for putting this on CZcams.

[@laurencegray4720]

So all of us can enjoy this fine music.

[@pepehaydn7039]

¿Cómo podía este hombre escribir estas cosas?

[@santiagos1s4s]

muy lindo gracias

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

Super symphony

[@shaerens]

Am I going daft or is there a harp's arpeggio at 11:56 and the repeat 12:16?

[@shaerens]

Is this being played with a continuo? I seem to be hearing blips of it in the slow movement as well 16:46 and on

[@elaineblackhurst1509]

@@shaerens
If you look elsewhere on CZcams* you will find a video of - I think - this exact same performance where you can see that there is a discrete harpsichord continuo being played; I suspect it would have been more audible live than it is in this recording.
The harpsichord is largely superfluous in this work, and here, occasionally intrusive - for example, it actually muddles the counterpoint in the Minuet.
* Just search Haydn 44 Gardiner.

[@stantlumina]

Nice performance. Shame about the harpsichord though. Unnecessary.

[@iks.7048]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 I'm hearing a fortepiano, I hear no harpsichord.

[@christianwouters6764]

@@elaineblackhurst1509 I guess the presence or absense of a keyboard continuo was no fixed rule but was entirely dependant on the circumstances. So recording all symphonies with or without it is not a question of authenticity. I remember reading in Berliozs' memoirs that he was shocked to hear Van Beethovens' symphonies performed " with a very bad old piano"( a harpsichord maybe?). And this was in Rome in the 1830ies.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

Phantastic symphony, not for purists

[@jert4008]

Why not ?

[@m.zn_11]

0:47

[@lylecohen1638]

who are the performers??

[@indianaG5]

I would say BRSO with Gardiner