What do Mexicans REALLY think about Mexican Americans?
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2021
- How are Mexican Americans seen by Native Mexicans? How are Mexican Americans treated in the USA and in Mexico? Do Mexican people like Mexican Americans? I wanted to find out more so I decided to investigate.
I've got help from some Mexican American CZcamsrs to discuss this topic and how it has affected them, both living in the US and living in Mexico. If you haven't seen their channels, check them out!
Jenny and Kevin Eat Baila Travel
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Serg and Tana
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I think that the topic of identity for the children of Mexicans who are born in the United States is very interesting and it is something that can cause some friction between Mexicans and Mexican Americans. I had always considered that if you are born in Mexico, you are Mexican and if you are born in the US, you are American. It appears that Mexican Americans are very proud of their Mexican culture and heritage and can feel hurt if they are not seen as Mexican by people who were born in Mexico.
It was very interesting to hear the experiences of the Mexican American people and how they are perceived within American society. It was surprising to me that everyone has faced some racism or discrimination because of their Mexican heritage.
I had always considered that the words pocho and chicano were both relevant terms to describe people born in the US to Mexican parents. I never realized that pocho is an offensive word!
If you are Mexican or Mexican American, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Let me know in the comments below.
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Yes, you have accurately described what it is like growing up in the US as a Mexican American. It's an interesting experience. I grew up speaking both English and Spanish, but because of school, my dominant language became English. I took Spanish classes in high school, and then some Spanish literature courses at my university, so that significantly improved my Spanish fluency and vocabulary. My Mexican family from Mexico no longer tell me my Spanish sounds "feo". lol This was a thoughtful video and I enjoyed the different perspectives. Thank you.
While I think in English, my Spanish pronunciation is not bad.... but I'm aware that my Spanish grammar is odd, awkward, to a fluent native-speaker.
@@davidday2373
same here, about the awkwardness, lack of grammer, etc.
I didn't ever take Spanish in school, because people would say we were being lazy--we all know that wasn't so.
I decided to take French.
I'm from a small town in Florida, you don't often run into a Mexican that speaks French.
I wanted to be exotic, lol.
@@lucio.martinez Our choices were Spanish or German!... I chose the "lazy" route, 😆. The joke was on me. I showed up first day, new semester... none of those kids taking Spanish were in any of my Algebra classes or English classes, etc. I only saw those kids in Homeroom & P.E. All of the "smart kids" chose German. No surprise, the quality of the Spanish class was sub-par. By 9th grade I found myself in A.P. Spanish Literature with all these Juniors and Seniors looking at me like "what are you doing here?"... I learned next to nothing, tbh (besides an appreciation for author Jorge Luis Borges 👍).
@@davidday2373
Ah. I'm just trying to into Grabiel Garcia Marquez, El Escándalo del Siglo. (In Spanish, of course)
It's a collection of his writings, but i can't get into it. It's tedious.
As a kid, I wanted to go to college to Mexico's UNAM.
I tried my best to understand their process of applying, to no avail.
Idk what I was thinking, since I had no Spanish studies.
I was just thinking it would have been nice to be in a sea of all Mexicans, que loco!
Instead of being the only one.
I settled and went on to the University of South Florida--Tamoa.
I has a slightly younger cousin that finished HS in the States. He did have full legal status to be able to go to college. He would have been a foreign student, it was a lot of money.
Do he went back to Mexico and did college there.
He worked for the Mexican immigration in Canada.
Now he's a Canadian Border Agent.
For me it was the opposite maybe cause i grew up at the border surrounded by nothing but mexicans or cause my relatives or appearance but the mexicans always accepted me saying you're a mexican that was born here or oh yeah sure you're american blue eyes and blonde hair sarcasticly but they're cool i think even cooler than the 3rd gen Chicanos.
Honestly as a Mexican we got beef with most Mexican Americans. Mostly those who post stuff online.
Some people try to act like actual Mexicans and try to speak for us, but they can't even speak Spanish 🗿 it's annoying.
You are from the United States and now they do want to be Mexicans because they do not accept them. It is their problem. If they will accept them, they would not be interested in Mexicans wanting them. They take Mexico as a second-rate set. Table
@@Chris193_The one who cries because the United States doesn't want him says it.
Ni madres, I ain't got beef with Mexican Americans and I was born and raised in Mexico until I was 17 years old. That's just you!
@@randomcamus9445nah😂
Jealous morales!😂💪🏽🇲🇽🇺🇸🏜️🌵🪶
This is true of all cultures. Koreans do not consider Korean-Americans as real Koreans, Italians do not consider Italian-Americans as real Italians, German do not consider German-Americans as real Germans. How could you be? As an American, you grew up in a completely different culture than your ancestors countries. Just because maybe you can still speak your ancestors language at some level and still celebrate ancestors customs, does not make you Mexican, Korean, Italian, etc. You grew up in American, so you are American.
They are only from that country when they’re famous such as Al Pacino(Italian-American) , Selena quintanilla(Mexican-American), Bruce Lee(Chinese Americans), timothee chalamet(French-American), and etc. Maybe they should stop looking at us like foreigners in the us not just the USA but outside the USA also. I see a lot of Mexican calling Mexican Americans “nopal” based on their skin. Even if they identify as American.
Best quote from Selena about being Mexican American, “Being Mexican American is tough. … We’ve gotta be twice as perfect as anybody else… We gotta be more Mexican than the Mexicans and more American than the Americans, both at the same time. It’s exhausting!”. I lived my entire life in Texas where my parents came from Mexico illegally up until this year. I moved to Latvia and now trying to understand what being Mexican American really means, even in Latvian I would have to say I'm only American (Es esmu amerikanis). Being Mexican American is its own shared experience that I'm slowly finding out is unique.
We need to know about Oprah and Christina!
Ah i love the Selena movie reference!
@@JoeBloww762 same names lol!
Which is why we created Chicano culture and even young Mexicans from the homeland grow up trying to dress and talk like us lol🇲🇽🇺🇸
That's actually very true. We Mexican Americans have to be as twice as perfect as everyone else that's actually very true and no joke that's the only way we can mix well. Cuz it's either one way or the other way for both sides.
thank you for the chance to participate in this! it was interesting to see everyone’s perspectives and it was a really cool way to present the topic 😁🇲🇽
Thank you so much Serg! I didn't want to ask you really specific questions because I was sure that you'd come up with something interesting that I hadn't even considered - and that's exactly what happened.
Hi Serg, I felt like you represented us, Mexican American’s perspective very well in the way you spoke. Thank you! 🙌🏽 however, I did want to mention that tex mex food has a very unique background that many ppl are not aware of. According to a documentary called “Truly Texas Mexican” (on Amazon Prime for free, its great by the way) did research & talked about the origin of Tex Mex food. Turns out it was first introduced shortly after the Mexican-American war in Texas. Although white Americans loved the Mexican food, they did not want to deal with Mexicans so they invented dishes that in there perspective resembled Mexican food so they could cook it themselves. To quote the documentary, “ tex mex was created by white people for white people”. As a Mexican American, I’m not shy to show of my heritage. I often do research to cook our Mexican food as authentic as possible. This trend among younger Mex. Americans is becoming more popular. Anyway, just wanted to mention that. Thank you again ❤️❤️
I love your insight and am interested in watching the documentary. Thanks
Really awesome to hear your guys perspective, I really echo the same thoughts to my friends from abroad who don’t really know about Mexican and/or American culture. Cheers from a Mexican American living in Shanghai.
@@LaKarencitaMXsoy Chicano y orgullo pero mi mama no es mexicana es indigena de Canada 🇨🇦 yo soy miembro de mi tribu y orgullo, Creo que yo soy el unico que es Mexicano y nativo lol 😂
Thank you for your excellent work on this video! It’s not an easy topic to talk about, as it is sensitive for many people, but it’s very important to us and we feel honored to have been a part of this conversation with you. We look forward to continue this journey of exploring identity in Mexico as Mexican-Americans (aka Chicanos aka Latinos aka Hispanics aka Pochos lol) via our CZcams channel and journey through Mexico. Last but not least, thank you so much for your friendship and kindness during our time here in Querétaro! ❣️
Thanks so much for your insight guys! I couldn't have done it without you.
👆 Everyone go subscribe to their channel, they have really great content!
Chicos, can you all please expand on the the perceived notion that Mexas, in MEX are resentful, discriminative and odious towards us Mexas from the USA?
I realize the bullying on here, but how do they treat you out there?
Do they show or express their disdain?
They say that we go around belittling them, being stuck up and so on.
I believe it's their perception, how they take us.
While I realize there's nefarious people, I venture to say that that's the exception to the rule or norm.
I like to believe that we're wholesome people, humble and well aware of our good fortune.
How do assess these issues out in the filed?
@@dustyoldhat
Nah, el que entendió, entendió.
@@dustyoldhat I'm asking about their experience with people in Mexico.
I find a lot of aggression towards us Mexas in the US.
From why we don't speak Spanish.
That we are arrogant, etc.
I find a lot of ignorance on their part.
They are quick to call out the racism in the US, but they don't know it.
We know it living the US.
Anyway, i just wonder about the treatment of them by naive Mexicans, since I believe there's about of resentment.
Which is not our fault. They can't hold that against us.
Enjoyed your input on this topic and it was spot on. One thing I wanted to point out is that the school system in the U.S. has been trying to suppress the Spanish language far longer than mentioned. My mom related that when she attended grade school and spoke Spanish she was punished and actually hit with a ruler across the knuckles for doing so. This was in the 1930s! As a result, and as you mention, many purposely avoided teaching their own children the language as a form of protection against the blatant discrimination.
As Mexican-Americans I sometimes feel we have it harder. The saying "ni de aqui ni de alla" is very real for us. On one hand we try to assimilate to United States culture, but we're never looked at as real "Americans." On the other hand we try to retain our parents culture by trying to speak Spanish, but we're not accepted by Mexicans. It's hurtful and difficult.
I am not a "chola or poncha" and I don't consider myself a "Chicano." I'm Mexican-American with indigenous purepecha blood. I'm a college educated woman who double majored in history and anthropology. I am not a criminal or the stereotype both Americans or Mexicans believe and continue to push.
Thank you for another informative video Karen.
"I don't consider myself a "Chicano". I'm Mexican-American..." Lol, actually, that's what chicano means, so yes, you are...
@@rickfava8204 some people just don't like to be called certain things. As long as someone doesn't say they are binary or something else like that, that just confuses me what to say. 🤔
Eso de tratar de hablar español como que no te está saliendo muy bien que digamos.
Weird. My whyte kids face all sorts of racism from your people. So who's telling the truth? 🤣 half my paycheck gets taken to pay for Hispanic immigrants yet you feel the victim? This is insane. Trillions upon trillions go to your people yet you are still playing victims. Tell me, what the fuck has whytes done to you sweetie that made you a victim? Do whytes feel they have a right to your money? Free housing for whytes in Mexico? You folks are so lost in your hate for people that have never done anything but open their wallets to help. This is now YOUR KARMA and its growing by the second. You folks chose guvment and diablo will want his payment. Good luck
@@WonderBoy0403 Why do you make it seem like it's white vs "Mexican"? Mexicans can be white so wdym? Look at Canelo Alvarez, a red headed, white Mexican with freckles. Nvm some of the other things you said, I'm sure other people will attack you for that so I don't need to say anything. Anyway I hope you and your family are well in these COVID times. God bless!
Please be respectful with the people who participated in this video. They were kind enough to help with the video.
Great video! I love how you raise these type of topics in your videos and don't shy away from taking on socially uncomfortable conversations. As a Black American I'm obviously not Mexican or Mexican American but there is some relatable stuff in this video.. Not to mention I've witnessed some of these very things play out in the lives of Hispanic friends and people I know here in America.
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Oh you mean los pochitos, J&K?
Los norteñitos de Chicago? Jajaja
Just kidding y'all!
I don't take pocho to be a pejorative. It's my term of endearment, jajaja
Naco, the same. Not a insult to me.
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Thank you for sharing this. I am a 54 year old Mexican American woman, I was born in the U.S. I wish more people would talk about this. Sometimes i feel like we are a people without a country.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I suppose for your generation was much more difficult but I hope things are changing now
@@LaKarencitaMX Yes I wish more people would talk about this. I'm a 2nd generation born and raised in Texas, as were my parents born in Texas. My son a 3rd generation. The couple said it best, "we're stuck in the middle". We're raised American, but still have some cultural differences even from Mexicans because Texas is a whole other culture itself.
@@DontCareBeare.5791
You're Texmex!...I've been to Texas many times, and love that culture, especially the music!
@@SMWLM Yes!. TexMex. Love it 💗. Miss it so much. Moved from Texas to Vegas, 22 years ago.
@@DontCareBeare.5791 You are American and that is what you should take pride in. Just like the white Americans that have roots in England, Ireland, Germany, Italy etc. but are not those, you are the same as them American. Most Americans are people with roots elsewhere, but they are Americans and the USA should be their pride.
What a great opportunity for 2 of my favorite CZcams channels to meet up! Really enjoy all the work you both put into making the videos. Keep up the great work!
As a Mexican, If you love Mexico and if you identify as Mexicans. It is enough for me. You are Mexicans. Also, do not forget to get your Mexican passport, legally you would be Mexicans, It wont matter what the people think. You are always welcome to this beautiful country
No
Thank you
Thank you. I was born in Guerrero in 1997 and at 6 Months old arrived in Los Angeles and have lived in California since then.
Nah we left that shithole country for a reason.
Yo soy nacido en SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA USA, Siempre creci con gente y familia hablando Espanol, Yo me siento orgulloso de mis raices Mexicanas aunque soy nacido en USA. Soy de cuarta generacion y mi familia sigue hablando los dos Idiomas, Espanol/Ingles.
Ala 😮 really ? thats amazing over here closer to the north of California that is very rare, i notice alot of 4th don’t know spanish or undertsand. I feel cities closer to the border have closer ties to mexico! i was raised in a very nice neighborhood & never learned how to speak & think well in spanish 🙃 i feel my dad did it on purpose so we wouldnt know. He rarley has conversations with us never talks to us 🥲 & only says hi. now i try to teach my daughter spanish & he said don’t teach her spanish🥲🙂. And when my Poor child tríes to talk to him in spanish he tells her what did you say 🙂. He technically ignores her. now i see as an enemy my own dad.😞
yo tmabien aunque curse mi formacion academica en colegio privado en Tijuas ademas que me influencie mucho por familiares que tengo en el sur de Mexico al Igual que de Guadalajara y Juarez y la verdad me intriga la nocion de relizar estudios en la CDMX ya que me da curiosidad la percepcion y estructura capitalina del sur a diferencia de la cultura fronteriza del norte.
I agree with "A Mexicans worst enemy is another Mexican.." Envy and greed have something to do with it.
We can't be enemies of pochos or Chicanos 'cause they're not even mexicans 👍🏻
100% agree
This. We are pretty two faced. During national scale disasters we will overcome these with our cooperation but in our day to day lives, not so much. It's quite sad.
No we, son los gringos.
??????????????I wouldn't blame any cousin in Mexico for such a difficult moment we've had plenty of our history washed by many of the white that many current cousins don't even know about Mexico owning the West USA states in the past so they also struggle to see the similarities we've always had. It's just hard to believe the poor Mexicans and Mexican Americans will ever really be offered their real reclaims of land being returned to them.😭.
I really love the research and work you put into making your videos. You go out on the street talking to people, gathering opinions, and then you magically shape it all into a storytelling event. Even the thought you put into the background music - it always matches up with the ambiance of the tale you weave - great work LaKc...the way you make videos is like a fine wine. You keep on getting better!
Aww muchas gracias por valorarlo mucho. Sé que es uno de tus favoritos 😃
I don't think I've seen a video like this before, but it really provides some interesting perspectives and insight. Thanks.
Hi. It was a very difficult video to edit. I didn't know how to portray it
@@LaKarencitaMX You did very well for not knowing how! You stayed strong and learned from it. Your editing will only get better. 😊
@@LaKarencitaMX It's nice seeing Mexican-Americans living in Mexico for a while. Many Mexican-Americans have never been to Mexico (due to visa issues or bad perceptions of Mexico).
Mexicans in México,can take a lot from here.
Especially, as to why Mex-Am, don't always speak Spanish.
I remember in HS, latins were criticized for taking Spanish as a second language. They were accused of being lazy, say that they already knew the language. As we all know, that's not so. We can have an advantage in familiarity, but we need the basic grammer.
I figured, I'd take French, instead.
@@LaKarencitaMX 1. First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared.
(That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Asians, Christians...and Democrats too.)
2. True width of Washington Monument is 666 inches wide on each of its 4 sides.
3. Former elite banker R-onald Ber-nard says most billionaires are Luciferians (Satanic).
Jesus said, ”and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Nice to hear all different opinions! What I experience is good, kind people - everywhere, and they are the best to be around - like you Karencita!
Many of us didn’t have a choice. My mother took me to the U.S. as a child. I am a Mexican National but was raised in the U.S. I understand perfectly what she said, people treat us like we are neither from the U.S. nor from Mexico. No reason to be ugly to others. We are still Mexican! 🤷🏻♀️
It happens in other people groups too unfortunately. I am Ukrainian and was born in Ukraine and go through that too. I have a Russian friend who knows I am from Ukraine, but because I have been here for most my life and don’t know much Russian anymore, he said I wasn’t really from Ukraine. It really hurt because that is my home. And here in the U.S I am treated not the same. People say I’m am Hispanic or Arabic and they treat me differently.
Why can't you be both?
@@madiivaniva 1. First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared.
(That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Asians, Christians...and Democrats too.)
2. True width of Washington Monument is 666 inches wide on each of its 4 sides.
3. Former elite banker R-onald Ber-nard says most billionaires are Luciferians (Satanic).
Jesus said, ”and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Ok India Maria 😂
U.S and mexico have way different mentality, culture , and way of life once you go to the US you miss some of the details that make a mexican a mexican no one can be both you have to choose. Live on U.S or Mexico.
I'm not Mexican or Mexican-American (a child of Colombian and Ecuadorian Immigrants but born and raised in the U.S.) but this provided a lot of interesting insights and perspectives regarding identity and the ways it shapes one's outlook for their life.
I love this! Karencita, you explain in such a heartfelt and understandable way, the cultural differences between Mexican/Americans vs Mexicans. Having both experiences is such a good way of understanding each other. Viva la cultura mexicana!
If your comment is about Karen having "both experiences", well, she is Mexican, and has never lived in the US, just to give you some context.
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@@s1gmundfr3ud I know that. No, I was talking about her Mexican American guests based on the topic at hand
In my experience, nobody treats Mexican Americans worse than Mexicans. They can be downright awful, condescending, and rude. Like they feel an impulse to let you know you’re inferior. I’ve met a lot of friendly Mexicans who’ve been gracious and really chill, but I’ve also met ones who act like you insulted their mothers and want to boil you alive because they detect that your Spanish is slightly Americanized. When I travelled abroad to France and Spain, I was absolutely shocked at how much better I was treated in both countries and never once experienced any amount of resentment or rude behavior (even in Paris). Mexicans need to chill out with the extreme judgmental biases they have toward Mexican Americans. It’s even worse when you see how much friendlier they are to gringos but treat you with contempt. I was paranoid about my Americanized Spanish and when I’d meet other Latin Americans, they’d tell me I was crazy, that I spoke excellent Spanish. It was only the Mexicans who felt a need to be dismissive, insulting, and disparaging.
It called envy. They have this inferiority complex towards the American culture and can't stand that "one to them" is no longer "one of them."
Sorry to read you had this kind of problems, but not all Mexicans are like that, personally I got no problem with anyone, whether is black, white, asian, Mexican-american, arab etc.....
In this world some people are assholes, and they are in all races....
They also hate on Latinos from other nationalities, but watch them besa that gringo cullo!
Pero no eres mexicano , eres gringo superalo
@@lupeyoscar10 hay. Y tu donde vives? Si vives en Los estados unidos eres un hipocrita.
So that’s the REAL way you met Jenny & Kevin!! (A little different than their version.) And this is so eye-opening. Thoughtful. We need to expand our thinking, our understanding of each other, end our wall-building about each other and empathetically embrace.
How did they say they met?
My biggest insecurity as a women raised in the U.S. by Mexican/Honduran immigrant parents-is most definitely my sense of not belonging. There is already a cultural difference with my parents being from different countries-but on top of that, there has always been a fight with which “side”would claim me. I believe my parents tried shielding my siblings and I from discrimination and/or racism , so they never forced us or expected us to speak Spanish. They learned the English language right away and little by little I lost the Spanish language completely. It was refreshing hearing the young couple sharing their story as Mexican /Americans. I never realized or thought there were others like me-as crazy as that sounds. It seems like a majority of Mexicans feel that Mexican/Americans are ashamed or don’t feel like we care about our parents’ Mexican culture; but hopefully this video can shine light on the majority of us who truly weren’t given the opportunity to learn as a result of our parents’ trauma. In their minds they felt they were truly helping us and didn’t want us to face the trauma they were facing. Unfortunately, their decision to “shield” us seemed to have caused more insecurity and identity issues. They describe their choice of “protecting” us as one of their biggest regrets.
You need to look into the Hebrew Isrealites.
You’re not Mexican
@@Student0Toucher what is Mexican to u???
@@ayuanabradford3206 Someone that has 2 Mexican parents,raised with Mexican culture, goes to Mexico,knows spanish
What about the English, German Irish and Italians, they are not european anymore they are American. They suffered the same traumas you are currently suffering. Irish people not black has been the most discriminated group in the history of America. You are American put that in your head. Once you have seen New York city you will feel more american trust me.
You're bringing up topics never seen on CZcams before... good job.👍
It was very interesting to see this couple talk about what it’s like to be Mexican but born in the US. You asked some great questions Karen, and it’s nice to see that you really took the time to acknowledge other peoples opinions and consider that in your everyday thoughts. This was an amazing video!
Being someone who was raised in both countries. I am proud to identify as American AND Mexican.
I see the struggles of my fellow Mexicanos and I’ve seen how the Mexicans see the A/M. I am shocked how accurate this This is amazing work!
"A Mexican's worst enemy is another Mexican."
Sad but true. It took my gabacho best friend to point that out to me decades ago. Pretty much all people of Mexican descent LOVE Mexico and mexicanidad, but still have room to hate on the "wrong" kind of Mexicans.
Especially the Mexicans that don't look like typical Mexicans. They be hating on mexicans that look asian or mexicans thst look white or mexicans that look black. Calling them "fake mexicans."
Exactly as Octavio Paz’s book “El Laberinto De La Soledad”
The main problem is there are too many Mexican people (NOT all the Mexican people) that are lazy and hate working hard to go ahead and they end up bitching and complaining about their lives. They prefer to do the easy way to have money or to become rich. When they see a Mexican that’s responsible, disciplined and headstrong and very successful (especially when we talk about being well recognized worldwide such as an actor, an entrepreneur or an athlete) because she/he worked hard to achieve its goals they insult her/him because of envy.
@@rodrigogonzalez7858 Cool story bro.
thats every country they discriminate everyone that was born somewhere else, its all nonsense
You tackle such interesting topics, and this is another one. Great video and subject matter.
This was so interesting to watch and very well put together🙌👏 I (Simone) had no idea there was such a stigmatism around being raised with a combination of Mexican and American culture and ideologies, so this was very enlightening for me 🙋♀️ and that part where Jenny said that in Qroo if she were to say she’s from Zacatecas they’d more likely get charged ‘local’ prices. I’ve seen this first hand in Qroo where if Geovanny were to walk along the 5th avenue alone, none of the vendors approach him to sell anything, but the moment he’s with me, we are bombarded by vendors 👀💀 so great to see Jenny and Kevin in this 🤩🙌 Un abrazo fuerte desde PDC 🤗
Gracias amigos! ❣️ saludos 😊
There is no stigma, just stereotypes that are true for the most part. Chicanos traveling through Mexico are percieved to have dollars in bank accounts, high value targets for hoodlums and huslers
Thank you, I really appreciated this perspective.
Very interesting video. Your best videos for me are when you show different perspectives. I started watching your videos when you were in Vietnam. This video reminds me of them. Thanks
Thank you very much for supporting the channel for all this time!
Thank you for making this video! It is very eye opening and relatable!
Really awesome video. Thank you so much.
You continue to find great subjets and great videos.
Thanks again!
Glad you liked it. Jenny and Kevin sent me a message on Instagram and actually they suggested the subject.
It was nice to see the perspective of different people, also make a video on what Mexicans think about the growing Indian community here in mexico or any other country
I was born in the USA and I'm of Mexican origin. I'm proud of my Mexican heritage but I'm more proud to be an American. I served in the United States navy and am proud to serve this country who gave me more opportunities if I had been born in mexico.
Hasta que te encuentras a un supremacista blanco y te llama invasor o algún slur.
sure
@@luizpadillaw4766 He'll hear it from you people, too. So... what's the difference?
@@joseherrera8489 Que "mi gente" y yo no hago tiroteos en el walmart de el paso, Tx en 2019.
@@luizpadillaw4766 No, you just slice each other's faces off.
A few thoughts on this. 1. I was born in the 70's and my parents did not speak Spanish to us so we would fit in. They did feel they had to protect us from our own culture. This is so true for may of my Mexican American Friends. 2. In Texas we often use the word Tejano for families that have been in Texas for generations. 3. My kids are mixed race but would pass for Anglo very easy. They asked me if we would have to move back to Mexico after Trump was elected. There were Elementary age at the time. Being Mexican American is harder than most would want to admit we are stuck between two cultures and depending on the person they my fit more in one than the other but will never be fully accepted by either.
Just read how you refer about Mexicans, and you still wonder why you are not accepted by Mexicans?.
The irony: Anglos will always see you as Mexican.
You are an American.
We are hated and loved . Best to fit it and not fit in. Many Americans today do the same in Mexico and Latin America.
I just discovered your videos today and they make me smile and laugh. It’s so refreshing to see a Mexican woman traveling the world and having confidence and pride in her own skin and where she comes from that she wants to share it with the world. As a Mexican-American my Mexican heritage was just something that was not “cool”. I live in border state New Mexico and while it’s predominantly Hispanic here there’s a lot of weird confusion as to identity. I’ve had lighter skinned Hispanics tell me I’m Navajo, but Natives here wouldn’t consider me one of them, I don’t speak Spanish so can’t relate to Mexican family members, but yet Caucasians only see me as Mexican 🤷🏻♀️ lol. My mom is teaching my kids Spanish (unlike me lol but she’s making up for it) and I’m learning along. I look forward to showing them your videos and your fun perspective of Mexican culture that makes me a little proud to share this heritage.
New Mexico has a variation of the Spanish language. Different slang terms. Hatch chilies should be world famous by now
My favorite Mexico travel channels in one video!
I'm Mexican born raised and living in Mexico and I see Mexican Americans as an over the top version of what they think a Mexican is (clothes, music, attitude). But in Spanglish.
I've never met anyone in Mexico City (where I'm from) that listens as much rancheras, dresses as stereotypical Mexican and Behaves with this straight forward attitude as all the Mexicans Americans that I know (and they area lot since I have family on the situation).
I feel they adopt this to compensate or to feel part of something.
We are totally different, they created their own culture.
Lol my father and family is from Mexico City it’s funny when people tell me “wow you guys are diffrent then other Mexican”
I’m Mexican American. My parents are from Merida, Yucatan. I think the reason you see a lot of “over the top” version is because a lot of the Mexicans that come to the US come from pueblos and ranchos where they do listen to rancheras and Banda but if you see a Mexican American with parents from a “bigger city” they usually don’t listen to that. My parents being from Merida I grew up listening to salsa, Cumbias, etc
@@YucaTX very true
Mexico City isn’t all of Mexico though!! Mexico is made up of many subcultures.
It's funny how Latinos are the only ones that see each other as different, but everyone else in the world see us the same lmao 🤣
I am now hooked on your videos. There are many CZcamsrs doing shows on Mexico but yours are very good.
I like the view point of a young Mexican woman about her own country with the added perspective she has from being married to a Brit.
Thank you very much, James 🙂 I hope you enjoy my future videos!
Thank you so much for making this video happening! This was very informative. New viewer here!
Very enjoyable video! Well done,I was born in the states and my father, wanted us to only speak English, I just now realized why, he did not want to be discriminated against.
Guess I am lucky, I have never felt judged, in anyway here in the states, nor in Europe and I have always proudly stated that I am Mexican/ American.
I too try very hard to sound Mexican, when I visit Mexico, people usually think I'm from South America, and then I explain 😕
La verdad es que no eres ni Méxicana ni gringa...al momento en que se mezclaron se destruye la originalidad de la sangre....
I have a similar situation as you. I am not mexican though, I am Ukrainian born in Ukraine but when I came to the states my parents wanted me to stop learning Russian and learn English. I understand why they made me stop learning Russian to protect me. It is difficult because I want to identify with my Ukrainian heritage but I am not seen as Ukrainian here. And here in the states I am not seen as American. Most people think I’m actually Hispanic.
@@kian-88romanov86 cual originalidad? México es un país mestizo, no manches 😂
@@kian-88romanov86 En ese caso los mexicanos tampoco son mexicanos. En el momento en que se mezclaron con europeos destruyeron la originalidad de la sangre.....
Very good job. Muy bien hecho. I was born and raised in the United States. I retired from the US Navy the I had a Government position for another 15 years. My Parents were both born in Mexico and some of my brothers were also born in Mexico. I grew up in Los Angeles during the 60s & 70s Chicano Movement, Cesar Chavez Farm Boycotts and I learned how to stand my ground. I don’t feel outta place anywhere in the US and I challenge anyone that tells me to “go back where you came from. Our house in Guadalajara has been in the family for about 75 years. We went to Mexico almost every year for summer vacation during the school year. I am fluent in Spanish and English and due to my employment clearance, I had to wait for my retirement to get my Dual Citizenship. I feel at home in either country and don’t worry to much about what Americans or Mexicans think of my status. I’m happy.
Thanks for your service hermano. I watched the news today and i seen a chicano who served in the marines get killed today! They dont know it if was a hate crime or random killing but i urge all my chicanos que se pone los huevos and dont hesitate to defend yourselfs. Get a gun permit or learn mixed martial arts and mete la verga a los que offendan si te hacen un threat. The World is changing! Being a "nice guy" wont cut it anymore! We've been nice way too long!!
@@andradeb2695 👍😎. As a black American, I must totally agree with your position, as it could apply to (ANY) non-white American today.
Loved the topic. I was born in the USA to parents from Mexico. Dad from Guanajuato and mom from Jalisco. I went to Gaudalajara in July for the first time and was shocked when watching videos of a band that I thought was Mexican. I noticed that in Mexico, the Mexican flag that was flown in their video was blurred out. I asked my family why they did that and they said because they are Americans trying to portray themselves as Mexicans when they are not. She said although their parents may have been born in Mexico, they shouldn't fly the mexican flag because they are americans. I was shocked.
Let me guess...Banda Buknas?
@@The1stGurehaundo lol that is one of them
I think it goes deeper than that , In Mexico patriotisim runs deep and proud and the flag cannot be used the way we use the american flag
y tu familia tiene razón, si ni nacieron y crecieron en México no son mexicanos
Different regions of the US perceive Hispanics differently. I was born in Albuquerque New Mexico, and we anglos were in the minority at the time. There’s were more Spanish surnames in our phone book than anglo surnames. I was introduced to Spanish as a toddler. I played with neighbor friends who were Hispanic. I listened to Mexican music on TV. We visited New Mexican villages where 18th Century Spanish is still being spoken. New Mexico didn’t have much arable land or natural resources like California or Texas, so anglos left native Hispanos in charge, and they still run things. I’m grateful for the years I spent growing up there, and I still love going back. New Mexico gave me such appreciation for different cultures, languages and perspectives that are with me today.
Definitely depends on the what part of the U.S. you're from.
I lived in NM for 20 years. Raised my kids there. I did find a different form of prejudism there. Some of the hispanic people I met there were racist of people from Mexico. Because according to them. They consider themselves direct decedent's from Spain. I don't like to argue, so I let it go. I learned to like their culture and just ignored that part of it. It was a great place to live. I don't regret it.
@@irmajohnson9547 I’ve heard this as well. Hispanic New Mexicans often think of themselves as criollos. They are often shocked to learn that their DNA reveals that they are mestizo.
@@mjordan79705 Big surprise. I would like to see that! Lol
@Alejandro brunner not that I remember. The only possible discriminatory act was directed at my father who didn’t get the promotion he wanted. It went to a Hispanic individual who had better political connections. He then retired ar age 55 with two lucrative pensions plus social security, so he was pretty well off. If there wa any discrimination it was directed at the indigenous community, but I don’t remember seeing that very much, either.
Such an interesting video. I’m Peruvian American and I’ve been called Chicano when I was in Mexico. Thumbs up from inkahustler 👍🏼
Are you saying we’re all Chicanos no matter which side of the border we’re on??? 😂
@@ladydontekno
That's not what he said.
@@SMWLM that was the joke
Without in any way disparaging Spain, it's important to remember that there's so much more to Mexican, Central America, and South American heritage than the language and culture of Spain. Some of the earliest and most advanced civilizations in this hemisphere were located in what's now Mexico.
Being a "Hispanic" that doesn't speak Spanish is like being an Anglo that doesn't speak English.
@@arteks2001 It's the accuracy of labels like "Anglo" and "Hispanic" that needs to be questioned. England and Spain were imperial powers. Many of their cultural institutions were forced on peoples who were neither Anglo-Saxon nor Hispanic. A person shouldn't be considered, say, less Mexican because he / she isn't fluent in the language of a colonial power. Countries like Mexico need to rediscover their rich precolonial heritage.
@@wpc9163 and let's not forget, that at least when considering Mexico, that the word Mexico comes from Nahuatl and not Spanish.
When the conquistadors came here they forced the natives to speak Spanish and forget there native languages and cultures
That's extremely arguable. Spain was once part of the Holy Roman Empire, and it has a very rich history.
I really like your videos Karencita. Very thoughtful topics and well made.
Very thoughtful topic Karen. 🌴
Being bilingual is a blessing! I am Mexican married to an American that doesn’t know Spanish, I speak Spanish and English in my house and my two daughters and husband are learning both languages. We celebrate culture and eat food from both Countries. The whole world is a blend of different races and ethnicities that’s why is beautiful.
Pues Desgraciaste a la raza del gringo ése...que mal por ti...
It’s a mindset. I feel very Mexican and very American. If you claim it no matter what someone else judges I am proud of both and take the best of both worlds. I was born in Guadalajara, I have lived in New Jersey since I’ve been 5 and now am 38. I am what I am and embrace what I choose to. I have also served in the military and gone to war for the U.S, which may be factor in giving me confidence in not feeling any less of anything in both cultures. I claim them both.
Gracias Karencita. Me encanto el video!
Nice video Karen! Very well done!
Excellent representation of the Mexican-American experience…. I love that you took on this topic…as a Mexican-American I too feel - neither from there or here …thank you for doing this
the "ni de aqui ni de alla" feeling is strong among us Mexican-Americans, there's a lot of social-emotional unpacking to do here! Stay tuned for more videos on the topic, we plan to make a video on this and I'm sure La Karencita will continue exploring the topic as well
@DecolonizeMexico & Aztlan we really like that!
@Decolonization is for everyone La gente sigue pasando a EEUU y no se quieren asimilar.
As Mexican-Americans we get a lot of crap from Mexican-borns because they accuse us of mixing English and Spanish. The ironic part is that every time I've travelled to Mexico I hear the locals drop random English words into their Spanish sentences. "Oh my gaaaah, que caro estan los jitomates!" One time I was at a bar in Morelia and started talking to a guy that kept calling me a bear, and I was starting to get pissed off until I realized he wasn't calling me an "oso", he was just using the word "also" wrong.
😂
Well Spanish isn't even Mexico's real language. lol
😂😂😂😂😂 miscommunication is a MFer!!! LMAO!!
Hey dude, sorry but i felt the need to tell you as a native spanish speaker that he was most likely not saying also wrong but actually saying "oso" (bear) 'cause in modern mexican spanish oso (bear) is used the same way as "cringe" or to say that something's weird or shamefull
Spanish is México's real language dude, the mexican state is an entirely diferent entity to any of the native nations and empires. México as a country and national identity despite having many leases from native cultures is mostly a spanish descendent state. I know that curently it may seem confusing do to the "indigenismo" like stance of the current regime, but is mostly politics not reality, the truth is that the mexican state has historically been a hefthy enforcer of spanish culture
Thanks. Great video. Thanks for sharing your beautiful experiences. Sending you lots of love.
My wife is a dual citizen because of her dad. She grew up here in America. I am half as well but my mom was adopted and found her birth family. I look and act white but I have deep respect Mexican culture and people. Mi español es muy malo pero sigo intentando y estudio mucho... mi familia en San Luis have taken us in and have been nothing but wonderful. We might not truly fit in anywhere but we’ve had nothing but good experiences with Mexican people. And my family only sees us as family. Asombroso video! Subbed! Muchos gracias! Cheers 🥂
Si naces en estados unidos eres estadounidense. Una cosa es nacer y crecer en América Latina y otra es nacer y crecer en USA con papás latinos, no confundamos.
Vanessa Sallgado Curioso dato, muchos, digo muchisimos Mexicanos con ciudadania Estadounidense, viven y prefieren vivir en Mexico. Claro, estoy hablando de gente que se sabe y puede ganar la vida en un buen trabajo. Por supuesto, hay perfiles de todo tipo pero este en particular, me llama mucho la atencion pues expresan su falta de gusto por la cultura del Mexico-Americano y por la descomposicion social y discriminacion entre todas las nacionalidades en EU. Ademas, debian llamarse Mexicanos-Estadounidenses y no Americanos. Saludos.
@@Olga-jm5xf lo de los chicanos/pochos que prefieren vivir aquí, muchos es porque generan sus ingresos de allá y se quieren dar la gran vida que alla no se pueden dar, es básicamente lo mismo que los gringos/canadienses blancos que quieren vivir de "vacaciones eternas" con sus pensiones de allá aqui. Y deberían llamarse Americanos, porque eso es lo que son, ahora resulta que solo los americanos blancos de origen inglés son americanos mientras todos los demás son mexican-american, African-American, Italian-american, etc, las raíces no valen nada
@@yurihime3730 Te entiendo. Si, tambien hay los que estan en Mexico porque les alcanza mas el dinero. Pero si hay muchos que no quieren seguir viviendo alla entre sus 20's y 40's con profesion y trabajando en Mexico. Y bueno, Americanos, Americanos...todos los que somos de Alaska hasta la Patagonia en Argentina. Que EU se haya apropiado del nombre, bueno, ni hablar.
Si naces en usa de padres latinos y hablas la lengua eres latino.
@@Olga-jm5xf Que raro. Los mexicanos no dejan de entrar a EEUU ya sea legal o ilegalmente. No sé de dónde sacaste tus datos pero no se ha sabido que muchísimos mexicanos prefieran vivir en México si el mexicano busca immigrar a EEUU precisamente porque en México no hay un buen porvenir. No inventes. A la otra pon tus dientes.
Hey guys! My name is Ulises. I was born in Veracruz but have been living in the state of Minnesota in the USA for 18 years. I’ve dealt with all of it, and a lot of discrimination from both ends of the issue. From “looking” too Mexican and even speaking Spanish at a job, to being made fun of by other Mexican’s for my lack of not being fluent in speaking Spanish. I’m becoming more fluent with my Spanish now which I’m happy for but I dealt with a lot of questioning about where I belonged. After being a resident for a while I finally got my American citizenship and I’m finally going to visit Mexico again! Now I’m taking back all my roots and practicing my Spanish vocabulary and writing so it can become my Fluent language🙏🏽 I love watching your videos as well eat baile and travel 💃🏽❤️
Ring me up if you land in Mexico City, man. Vamos por tacos al pastor y chela.
people discriminate everyone all over the world, every country discriminates their own that are born is the ussa
@@SlackersIndustry Probably because American-born Mexicans feel they're better than their Mexico-born brethren. (Not all, of course).
@@valerieramirez8584 You are blessed to be able to cross the border freely and enjoy the best both countries have to offer. Having said that, acquiring the Mexican Nationality is a lot easier than becoming American or Spaniard.
Do you identify as Mexican or Mexican American? Do you identify with Mexican or Chicano culture or both?
Formidable! Un sujeto importante por discutir! Gracias, Karencita! Saludos de San Pancho, California
Wow I felt this video so deep. As a Mexican-American I completely agree with their views and I can certainly relate.
Excellent video! My parents insisted that we continue to speak and learn Spanish after we immigrated to the U.S. However, most Mexican-Americans I know, people in their 50s, 60s, and 70s, were not permitted to learn Spanish. Such a shame. I love being bilingual. Note: When I was a child in Mexico I attended a bilingual pre-school starting at age three. I took Spanish courses in middle school and high school in the U.S. When classmates asked me why I was enrolled Spanish class, I simply asked them why they were enrolled in English classes!
My parents were born before World War II ended in the 40’s. My mother came from Mexico as a four year old to Los Angeles. She first learned English in kindergarten. My grandmother was around 30 years of age and didn’t speak much English, mainly Spanish. My grandfather was born right on the border in Nogales Arizona in 1915; he was bilingual. My dad was 2nd generation Chicano, his parents (my Nana was Tejana from El Paso, and my grandfather’s family were from Zacatecas). I grew up understanding Spanish but not speaking it well. As I get older, I’ve been self teaching myself with Babble and taking to native Spanish speakers as practice.
It wouldn’t matter when climate change become dangerous by 2030
Idk I was raised speaking Spanish and English or both at the same time , I always celebrated Mexican holidays and even dia de los ninos and other stuff and I’m Chicano but I’m also Native American , my mom is native from Canada 🇨🇦 and my dad is from chihuahua mx . But I grew up mostly Mexican
@@jonathanaldecoa1099my uncle is 3rd gen tejano and speaks Spanish , dude listens to corridos and tejano music , it’s funny but he mostly speaks Spanish , glad I got to know Spanish an English and also my native tongue ojibwe
@@AzSureno that’s awesome bro. My DNA has me at 37% Indigenous Mexican. I know on my mom’s side I have Yaqui. Peace brother 🕺😎
I loved this video. I grew up in Mexico up until I was 12yrs old. I still speak Spanish and have a heavy accent. So I can definitively relate to Jenny and Kevin when they said they are seen as foreigners in the USA and in Mexico. Or people think you're not smart enough cause you have an accent.
White southerners go through the same thing with accent thing.
You are absolutely right about the accent part. When my grandfather came to this country he spoke 7 languages fluently only English wasn't one of them. I was told that my grandfather had to take the heaviest work and the hardest work at the factory he was working at in this country even after he learned his 8th language...English. This is a big problem for all foreigners in this country. I don't think the discrimination is so fluid now as it once was in some cities but it still exists in other cities. The area where I live was settled by central and eastern Europeans, so of the descendants from those families still live in and I'm one of them. Now a new immigrant has come to this area and most are of Mexican nationality. Those of us that came from immigrant families are always glad to help and look at these Mexicans as we looked at our grandparents. Nothing more and nothing less. Everyone came here for a better life. As far as I'm concerned anyone that mistreats an immigrant is someone I wouldn't want to know. Anyone who thinks they are so arrogant who thinks they are better than someone else is someone I don't care to know. Almost all Mexicans on my street either started their own businesses or they work for a family business and they are providing a good life for their kids. Are there some in this city that don't? Yes, but we have people born here that don't care what their kids do on the streets as well as any foreigner might but in most cases foreign children study harder than those born here from what I see here because their parents want them to have a good life.
@@TomM60 Which 7 languages did he speak?
Great video!
This is the most interesting video I have seen so far……Bravo!
Thank you very much for that ❤️
When I went to visit Mexico back in 1989, my cousins didn't really appreciate me because I had a better life here in America.
That must've been tough. We got lucky. We'd be so excited to get together we'd just spend our time making fun of each other and asking how things worked in each country.
@@MegaNani86 well our economy is so much better here in the USA.
@@robertherrera5975 True. And to be fair, my cousins were from a wealthier class. There was struggle but not like the average Mexican at the time.
I’m a Mexican living en USA. There are cultural differences that can’t be ignored. We grow up in different cultures with different families values. For example, I am from Mexico City and do not identify much with them. Their conception of what being Mexican is, was shaped by their surroundings and their individual family values. Just like these two individuals you interviewed who talked about carne asadas a term I never heard of in Mexico City or Toluca. Another example is what we eat to celebrate the holidays. The other day a Mexican American friend asked me a bout food we eat for Christmas. I mentioned what my mom makes and to my surprise he never heard of Romeritos, ponche, bacalao, or ensalada de manzanas. In my opinion, we should try to see our differences as a good thing but we should never try to be someone we’re not. Both sides are amazing and our many differences makes us unique.
"... but we should never try to be someone we are not"
There are cultural differences even within Mexico, same case as you and your friend. Cultural differences within the mexican culture does not determine who is Mexican and who isn't. What really determines if someone is mexican is citizenship, born in Mexico or you become a naturalized citizen.
Thank you for this video.
Great video, I’m a Chicana; Mexican American living in the south west . My Dad from Durango Mexico and my Mom Is from California. Both were educated in U.S. and we grew up speaking English. Yes we understood Spanish. We had the best of both worlds but I always felt like a second class citizen in the United States and a Pocha when we went to Baja every summer. It’s an between existence.
If you had learnt to speak Spanish you wouldn't had felt like a "Pocha".
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@@s1gmundfr3ud You are blaming the victim. Perhaps you don't realize that both the language and culture have been purposely suppressed by the currently most dominant imperial power on the planet. It's only through the awakening of political consciousness and struggle that the Méxicanos in the U.S., born here or not, have risen above the status of being colonized or, like our native cousins, nearly eliminated.
@@s1gmundfr3ud
Lol!
Ruth Martinez both of my parent are from Durango also, me i was born in California . But unlike u i did live in el Rancho😁 in Mexico ( God i miss not being there anymore, it was beautiful) My Spanish is excellent so i always identified myself as Mexican first.
Plus gringos also always going to look at you as Mexican no matter if u where born in the States.
@@armandoayala446 Hi, I loved your story. I’m 65 now and have plans to spend as much time in Mexico as possible. I just got my Visa for the first time ever. Maybe the more time I spend there I too can say I see myself as Mexican first. Wow that’s beautiful. Have a blessed day .
My personal experience being born of Mexican parents who married in the USA is there are challenges for individuals like me are unique.
What I have realized is you make the best of any situation.
When addressed by discriminatory attitudes from both sides of the border I’ve learned to identify these types of bigotry and racism quickly and this is how I have learned to deal with it because it is universal.
ID your source of racist behavior and move away …
The reverse is also true on both sides of the border in that there are truly wonderful people to meet and learn from and exchange culturally.
you are wrong on something though, in the US you are more likely to be facing racism. in Mexico is probably just people treating you like a foreigner. Racism among each other is not really common, usually only happens to indigenous people. If you have an example I bet is probably something culturally that you did that gave you away as a tourist and thats why the attitude changed. What i am trying to say is that your challenges in Mexico did not happen because of bigotry and racism but because you are quite literally a foreigner in a foreign country, which is to be expected.
The irony is that some Mexicans were racist towards Asians. They should have taken a DNA test
Very interesting video!
This content is superb! The interviews that you conducted were excellent. The folks you interviewed are such great people - so well spoken, and I appreciate how well they were able to articulate the things they wanted to communicate. It is wrong if they are not fully accepted by Americans or by Mexicans - they should be accepted and beloved by people of both cultures.
Muy interesante. Naci en los EU de mama Mexicana y papa norteamericano. Hablabamos espanol hasta que tenia 4 anos quando mi mama decidio que ya, que tenia yo que aprender ingles. He pasado mucho tiempo en Mexico, y voy hacer mudanza a Queretaro dentro de 2 anos. Gracias por su trabajo.
If you're Mom is Mexican then she is also " Norteamericano" because Mexico is in North America.
yup shes got a lot to learn, and your northamerican dad is he an idian native? if not then maybe hes swedish so now you have 3 cultures 😂 it all nonsense be happy
Good video. The language thing sounds similar to the Cajun story in Louisiana. Kids were teased if they spoke French, it was the language of the poor, and it wasn't allowed in school. Now they're trying to get the language and culture going again. Assimilation is important to a certain degree, but I think you can retain some of you family's culture and still be a part of the community.
Absolutely.
Interesting video and great points of view and experiences. I’m Mexican, raised and born in a border city with some family living in the US, same situation as many other families from border cities and I can say that Spanglish is a normal thing to do, even without family living in the US. Now, when I moved to Guadalajara I received hate just because I throw some English words here and there while speaking and just to be clear, is not that I decided to do that just to feel superior or something, it is simply the way people speak in border cities and it is not a new thing, even my grandparents used to speak the same way. I’ve been told so many times “te crees mucho por decirlo en Inglés?” Or “por qué no lo dices en Español?” And even though you try to share why, people just don’t care.
On the other hand, when I travel to the US I also have been told “learn to speak English already!” even though I try to but sometime the Spanish mode kicks in and I completely forget how to say things in English.
TL;DR. Some people don’t care and just want the things their way. It’s a good thing not all people is like that, a lot of people just find it interesting that even though we’re Mexicans, we incorporate some English words while we speak.
Dude!! All of these answers these people in the video are saying is really true. I’m a U.S. citizen born in the U.S. but I grew up, I left to live in Mexico with my parents, in Ensenada Baja Mexico. And I did feel the culture clash and discrimination from both side of the border.
My own family is mixed. One side comes from Sonora many generations ago. They moved to Texas, then to Arizona and California (I live in Southern California) and look as Mexican as any Mexican today, but most of them don't speak Spanish except for a few words. I'm probably the first one making a serious effort to become fluent in Spanish. That's my background, but just to respond to some things from your video:
- Pocho - Here, it normally means someone of Mexican descent who is said to have abandoned their culture.
- Chicano - A popular term for Mexican-Americans in the 1960s but is mostly considered obsolete today.
- Racism - It's a fact that racism and discrimination exist in every country, and the USA has changed a lot from the 1950s when it was everywhere. Some people may hate all brown-skinned people, some people may just hate Mexicans, some may hate only undocumented immigrants, but most don't hate anyone. Many people just associate with their group, and that applies to people of all colors. When I go to the supermercado it's almost always all Mexicans, but when I go to the supermarket it's Anglos, Mexicans, Vietnamese, Nigerians, everybody. A lot or racist attitudes stem from ignorance and a lack of interaction with other cultures. This is true everywhere. There are some Mexicans who hate Anglo-Americans, and there are some Mexicans who hate Yaqui - but they don't represent most Mexicans.
- Immigration - There are many different views on immigration, but in the U.S., like many other countries, there are legal ways to immigrate. The U.S. takes in more immigrants than any other country in the world, and according to World Population Review, over 48 million people living in the U.S. are foreign born. So the U.S. is not anti-immigrant. Many people have concerns about those coming to the U.S. illegally, which is often dangerous. People who enter illegally don't have the same rights as those who enter legally. Those who enter legally can, for example, get work visas.
- Discrimination - As noted, discrimination against someone on the basis of race or ethnicity is a crime. A Mexican vendor in Querétaro would not be allowed to charge higher prices for non-Mexicans and a lower price for someone from Zacatecas or San Luis Potosí since that's discrimination. Everyone pays the same price for the same item. Discrimination on the basis of race or ethnicity is against the law and has been since 1964, but being a "person of color" is often an advantage in getting a job or a university. Here in Southern California most Hispanics or Latinos are Mexican or Mexican-American (because we are close to Tijuana), and many businesses have more Mexicans or Mexican-Americans working for them than any other group. Mexican restaurants are all over.
- Mexican relations. Everyone is different with different experiences and most of the time there are no problems. I get along with everyone. A friend of mine from Guadalajara moved to Santa Ana, California, and he moved to an apartment and got a work visa. He got a job with the state of California. Sometimes the cholos would harass him, so he didn't like the cholos. Many years ago I had a novia chilanga who dressed like a chola, but she wasn't a chola. Sometimes they would say, "How come you don't speak more Spanish?" But they were just encouraging me. Most of us, Mexican and Mexican-Americans and non-Mexicans, all got along great.
Thank you for your post. You actually laid it all out in a very good way. Your definitions were spot on, and you explained the situation better than this Channel attempted to. I'm a Texan. Eighth generation at least. Depending on which data you read, I had ancestors here before Texas was even a state (Cherokee Indian).I only mention my generation info because I want people to know that I'm a Native Texan, and my views are based on generations of living in Texas alongside Mexicans and Mexican Americans. Texas is a large state and is very diverse, but I have lived in and traveled to just about every inch of Texas. I'm old and retired now, but I will speak about what I've seen. Texans are very friendly people, and so are Mexicans. We all have coexisted very well together in Texas for the most part. Texans and Mexican Americans/Texans, do take issue with people coming into our country and state illegally. I've actually seen Mexican Americans who take more issue with illegal immigrants than others. It's because they followed the laws/rules, and they did everything right. They don't appreciate the ones who come here illegally and just expect it to be OK. All countries have immigration laws, and all of the illegals would literally be thrown out of any country that they tried to enter illegally. The ones who come here legally, feel threatened by those who come here illegally. They feel they have to compete with them for jobs, housing etc. Texas is exhausting our resources dealing with the illegal immigration. When I say Texas, I mean all of us Texans, including all races and nationalities that reside here. Texans don't have a problem with Mexican people. We have a problem with illegal aliens, who come here from all over the world. Texans and Mexicans share a lot of culture. If you travel down South or to West Texas, you'll see that the cultures are pretty much combined. Even in Central Texas, East Texas and North Texas, you'll see that Mexicans/Mexican Americans are living in harmony with us Gringos. As I stated, we are pretty much combined culturally. In my 72 years, I have not seen much discrimination or conflict amongst us. Yes, you'll have some people who will see or want conflict with others, but for the most part it's just not there. Our two political parties like to create conflict and try to pit us against each other, but Texans know what's bullshit and what isn't. We are proud of our state and our blended heritage. We welcome anyone who wants to come here legally. We do NOT welcome those who come here illegally. Again, "we" are Texans, regardless of race or ethnicity. I wish we could just stop with all the subtitles of Mexican, African, Asian American ,etc. If you come here and become a citizen, you're an American. Not trying to disparage anyone's ethnicity, just saying when you're an American, you're an American. Period. I can't imagine Mexicans not respecting Mexican Americans. I've been to Mexico many times, and all of the local people are very nice, helpful and respectful. Mostly gentle people. People just need to respect each other and respect the laws of the countries that they travel to or live in. It's all about being respectful and law abiding. Not about race, ethnicity, wealth etc.
Mexicans respect anyone that comes with a friendly attitude. The issue arises when US citizens with Mexican heritage claim to be proud of their "Mexican heritage" but then behave like "I am sure you envy me because I was born in the USA". It just makes no sense such mind boggling attitude; Mexicans will ignore you or push you aside if you behave like that.
@@arteks2001 Too much prejudice in your comment.
@@flower5396 I never said that everybody behaves like that; what I said is that IF you behave like that THEN you will be pushed aside.
Here in the United States the Mexicans that try to speak English get bullied and called paisas. It’s really hard to try and speak another language when bullied like that
I'm late to this party but I've truly enjoyed your video, and the others. There is a lot I could add considering my skin color is white. Even to the point that some people are surprised that I am Mexican-American. You couldn't even tell if you heard me speak. I grew up in a neighborhood that had one other Mexican-American family and black family. The rest were white. So I grew up where I didn't fit in culturally in my own country, as well as my mother country. I love my culture, I loved spending time with my extended family in Mexico when my parents would take us to see them. Anyways, look forward to learning more. CZcams community is amazing!
Hello and I just discovered this video after taking a break from remote work in Tokyo. I'm an older millennial, born and raised in LA to my Mexican parents. I never thought I would say I'm Mexican like a Mexican native. Some of my Chicano neighbors would always try to be and act more Mexican by being hardcore Mexican soccer team fans or going to Mexican Banda clubs but their Spanish was limited to Spanglish and had a romanticized view of Mexico they learned from other Chicano/Mexican groups. I mostly spoke Spanish with my parents and relatives but, my mentality and intuition is definitely 100% American. English is my native language and I've learned Japanese since then. Most of my friends are from various backgrounds, which is different from my East LA friends who only spoke with other Chicanos or Mexican immigrants.
Our way of thinking is very different too. My relatives and other random people I came across in Mexico usually reminded me of my American identity but it only confirmed what I already knew about myself. I always wanted to understand for people like me why it was difficult to embrace American identity? For sure those reasons may be from traumatic episodes of discrimination but even then, majority of Americans aren't anti-immigrant and our communities tend to lose sight of it. Some have never even taken a trip to other American states to see what the country is truly about. I've met some super nice people in the South and Midwest. Anyway, the couple made some good points but mostly disagree with what they said. Everyone tends to define identity differently across the broad. I've seen this with Korean-Americans too.
My grandparents came in early 1900s they literally paid one peso to cross. My Parents were born here (depression era) so I am well into being 3rd generation. I was never bothered by Mexicans calling me pocha or anything else they deemed insulting. I am and have always been proud that i was born in USA. English is my first language and I learned to be fluent in Spanish at my jobs and taking courses in college. Growing up in the 80s we didn’t see as many immigrants. The influx has happened within the past ten years so no-one spoke Spanish in public as much as people do now. It just wasn’t accepted and considered quite rude especially around other cultures I.e Armenian, Persian, Asian, Indian etc. especially since the aforementioned had made the effort to learn English. Speaking Spanish in public gave the impression that one was not interested in being polite around other non speaking people and cultures. Not Speaking Spanish to Mexicans was a whole different monster. Lol that’s where the anger on their end would show. I always heard people saying I was “acting” as if I didn’t speak Spanish. I grew up with English music,news movies, cartoons etc. and ZERO Spanish at home So I just shrugged off the insults or took it with a grain of salt.
I grew up in NYC as a Mexican American and back in the 90s growing up in The Bronx I was the only one or a few of the ones that was Mexican. I was picked on cause I was different, but it I believe that shaped me on who I've become. To this day I never identify myself with anything entirely because I feel I'm just a mixture of everything. Sometimes I like New York things, Mexican things and American things or even Bronx things. I love it . It made me more open to different cultures and able to experience them more freely without any pre judgment.
Shoutout from a Brooklyn Mexican American!
Same here. I’m Mexican American too expect i live in south Massachusetts. Not too much Mexican here where I live. In providence, ri has much or more Mexicans. The majority Latinos here are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. As of now much Guatemalans starting to grow here.
You would have never been alone in the west especially California
Must suck to be Mexican in NYC lol California way better
@@Student0Toucher california is México
Excellent video
Great video.
I am half Mexican(through my mom) and my dad is Caucasian, and feel like I am more American, but I am proud of my Mexican heritage...especially having the best food!
So since you mentioned race on your father side whats your mothers race?
I'm Chicano I have been called wet back by whites or dirty Mexican and crazy ponchos in high school we had a clicka, they the Spanish speaking Mexican had there's we called them paisas white people think if you look Mexican we are the same but in reality we are not
Como que no conoces a nadie de Chicago? Y Evan? 😂 amiga como siempre otro buenísimo video 👏🏼siempre muy buena información. Me encanto escuchar las opiniones de las personas
Ups si es cierto. Se me olvidó por completo amiga sorry ahhh 😥
Es de Decatur
@@statingtheobviousify ay Dave es casi lo mismo 🥺😂
I love your videos!
Thank you very much
Love your videos.
Sounds like a perspective of someone’s depends on whether they were born in the US, or immigrated as children or as adults.
My view is that living in the US as a Mexican has a lot of challenges to keep the roots and identity and language because it seems like we have to give up those things in order to assimilate to the US culture, language, and customs. There are many subtle messages that Mexicans in the US experience whether it’s from media or elsewhere that Mexico is somewhat inferior to the US and therefore It makes it difficult to hold onto their roots.
But thanks to social media like CZcams it makes it way easier to view Mexico with different eyes and realize that it is rich in culture, food, and languages 👍🇲🇽
Saludos
As a European living in Mexico I feel that „the US“ is missing their roots incl cultural identity older than a few centuries since „some Europeans took over“ actually by eliminating the ancient diverse cultures 😳 Looks like those people are bashing the wrong ones, projecting in ignorance of their own deficiencies 🙄
@@anneli1735 Same in latin American. We say that we feel "proud" of our roots but our roots are really European roots!!!
It is inferior that is why you moved to the US.
@@anneli1735 Li you are Chinese woman acting like you are some gal from France Li isn't a European last name. Don't talk about missing roots.
Some people should understand that you just can't control what others think of you or anything else for that matter , be content with who you are and don't go around trying to please strangers , love thyself and don't care much about haters which you would encounter anywhere in the world given the chance ! The race card is mostly politics !
Couldn’t have said better
Yes! Just be happy who you are!
Keep up the good work.
I just want you to know that I am enjoying watching your videos I work out of town & thinking about moving to mexico
Both of yall
Both my parents are from the US, and so are my grandparents. So growing up, my family only spoke English to me, though sometimes I would hear my grandma speaking Spanish to her sisters or friends, and I picked up a little Spanish that way (especially if my family were gossiping in Spanish 😅), so I do understand some, I just don't speak it very well.
Culturally, I am American. I was born and raised in Texas, which has their own tex-mex culture, so I'm tejana too.
If Mexicans don't consider me Mexican enough, that's fine. In all honesty, I speak a European language and so do they, so what does it matter if I only speak English?
However, I don't--and will never-- deny my indeginious roots, and, to me, that's a more powerful connection than language.
And, the Mexican culture is so diverse in the United States, especially when it comes to the food. I live in California now and the food here is way different than in Texas, so much so, it was a culture shock for me.
So, if we could go beyond language, beyond borders, and even beyond culture, we would see that we share ancestors that occupied this land before it was divided.
Well put.
FYI, as much as l love speaking Spanish, Spanish is also a European language.
@@SMWLM So true, I wish I knew the local native languages, but alas, I do not. 😔
You are an American and that is what you should take pride in being. Just as white Americans have roots in England, Germany, Ireland, Italy etc but are not those and are Americans, you are the same as them. American.
@@stone0234 An American (the nationality, not the continental sense) is a person from the USA. How to be American? Be like the USA and it’s people. You’re people. Be American and be proud of that. Because you surely are not Mexicans just like white Americans are surely not Europeans. You all are Americans and to the world you’re Americans and nothing else.
Me encanto tu video!!!! Yo pienso qué hay muchos niveles y elementos que tienen que ver con esta tema como si creciste en un barrio Mexico en los Estados Unidos, si eres de Tejas, or California, o otro estado, y que generación de Chicano eres. Por ejemplo yo soy de Tejas con padres de Mexico y crecí con tradiciones y vestirme mucho más ranchero y norteño que otros chicanos.
Si me contaban un poco Jenny y Kevin. Es todo un tema tan grande e interesante. Muchas gracias Jaime
@@LaKarencitaMX hola amiga , puedes hablar del cowboy . como los gringos se lo quieren adjudicar aunque es bien mexicano> te dejare links
This is a very good topic because I feel I’m stuck in the middle as well. Being from down south TEXAS I label myself Chicano enjoyed watching this
What part of Texas? Here in DFW we don't use Chicano.
I want to congratulate the young couple who were interviewed. They came across well versed in describing the complexities of being of Mexican decent.
As for myself I am Chicano/Mexican! Just be proud of who you are !
I agree with a lot of this conversation. My parents are from Mexico and I was born and raised in WI. My mother was unable to master the English language my father did speak English but we/his children didn’t speak English to him. Spanish was my first language, going to school and engaging with the kids in the neighborhood. I’m speaking honestly my parents went through with a lot of blushit in the school system my main reason I never thought my children Spanish. I could go on and on.
Woow. This perspective is very different and I understand why you wouldn't want your kids to go through the same difficulties. Thanks for your opinion.
Totally agree. There are several aspects to this topic but I'll relate from my own story. As a child my mother began teaching me both the English and Spanish alphabet and how to phonetically read words. One day we were heading downtown to shop so we went to the bus stop to catch the bus going in that direction. I quickly noticed a sign taped to the window at the entrance to the bus. I sounded it out but didn't understand what it meant so asked my mother. It read "No Mexicans or Dogs Allowed." She immediately became enraged, got onto the bus, and started yelling at the bus driver with her finger in his face. We didn't go downtown that day. Unfortunately, it also impacted my mother's perspective and she no longer taught me the Spanish alphabet. She'd speak Spanish in the house but in a protective manner, I think, didn't emphasize that I learn the language.
A lot of this started changing in the 60s. From the early 1900s on there had always been some community based activism against the racism. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC) was one of those early groups. But this really took off with the Chicano Movement as more and more gente became politically conscious and realized what was going on in our communities. We had the worse schools in any given city, would be restricted by community level ordinances as to where we could live (hence we lived in barrios), lynchings by the 1000s, no political representation, etc., etc.
@@ed9095
My grandparents and parents lived through all that too, in California. My grandmother was born in Mexico, her and my dad never spoke Spanish to us because they didn't want us be discrimated against. My gm picked up the English language very well, and spoke with an accent. Most Latinos that arrived in the 80's and beyond have no idea of the struggles with faced back then.
Being bilingual is not the problem. Not knowing English is the problem. When will people understand that.
Special thanks to Jenny and Kevin. They have an awesome CZcams channel called: Jenny and Kevin eat baila travel. Check out the second part they released: czcams.com/video/tXAp8RuU_S4/video.html
Yeap, I think I've heard of them, lol
J/K they're great.
The guts to have moved to the motherland, that's so awesome!🇲🇽🇺🇲
I'm only 5 minutes in and this is just hits so many levels
My parents were both born in Mexico and immigrated to the US in the 1950. My mother became an American citizen through immigration. My father became an American citizen when he joined the US Army.
I was born in Los Angeles. We all speak English and Spanish. I have many family members throughout Mexico. In the USA I am an American. Visiting Mexico I am an American with Mexican ancestry. The words pocho and Chicano emerged during the civil rights movement by a political movement to identify Mexican American individuals.
My father always reminded me you were born in the US so you are an American citizen.
My fathers mother (my grandmother) lectured me she was born in Mexico but her parents were from Spain, pure Spanish blood.
As someone who was born upon the land right next to the border in Southern California to parents born in Mexico, it's great to be immersed in both cultures and I'm always interested in learning more about other states, countries and their people, so I'll maybe never be American enough nor Mexican enough for some. If so, oh well. 🤷🏽♀️ I can't count how many times I've crossed the border into Mexico and had short stays even. Spanish is my first language, actually. I am a fronteriza. I'm actually in Mexico right now, and I feel the both places are my home. Also, if we look at how the map once used to look... Me da vergüenza que mi hija casi no me quiere repetir el español, pero ahí la lleva! Esta chica todavía. 🤷🏽♀️ That young man said, "I have blood everywhere" Yes, there's that too. I don't really know my family tree well enough. 🤔 All that matters to me is that I love the land and the people who maintain it well and keep it healthy. I miss when there were more farms in south San Diego. 😔
Yeah. I get harsh hate from both sides.
White folks (Mexicans too), tell me to go back to México.
Mexicans, tell me to not come back to México, that they don't want me back.
I laugh at both--I need no permission, no invitation.
Two passports, two fluent languages, two cultures.
I do, go and stay, whenever I (Me, Yo, Moi, Eu) wants!
Wherever I arrive to, the migra says,
"Welcome Home" o "Bienvenido a Casa"
I say, that's right! 🇲🇽🇺🇲
@@lucio.martinez : Y por qué no lo dices en Español entonces?
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Cuando están chicos es cuando más fácil aprenden otros idiomas; lo mejor es que aprendan que en casa se habla Español y afuera se habla Inglés, así aprenderán simultáneamente los dos idiomas sin ningún problema, así lo hicieron mis sobrinos. And, who are those that maintain the land well and keep it healthy? Los gringos construyeron ese país robando y matando indios, esclavos negros, y Mexicanos. And they are not done yet.
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@@s1gmundfr3ud Must be nice to have sobrinos that listen. My little brat is hard headed and stubborn. No le importa aprender y cuando no tengo energía es cuando por fin quiere que le enseñe algo. Jaja 😅😔 Well, with a bit of reading of the right materials, one can easily surmise the true stewards for the land have always been the tribes and native people of their respective regions. 🤷🏽♀️
@@s1gmundfr3ud
Güey, porque cuando hablas idiomas, los usas.
Aquí va, para ti----
Sí, yo recibo desdén por ambos lados
De los gringos (chicanos, igual), me dicen que me regrese a México.
Los mexicanos me dicen que no vuelva a México, que no me necesitan.
Me rio de ambos-No necesito permiso ni invitación.
Dos pasaportes, dos idiomas, dos culturas.
Yo hago y me quedo do yo quiero.
Donde quiera que llegó, (US/MX), la migra me dice,
"Welcome Home" o "Bienvenido a Casa"
IYo digo, "así es!" 🇲🇽🇺🇲