Daisy Red Ryder Model 94: Part 2- Disassembly
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Greetings All,
This video was supposed to be a rather straight up disassembly of a pretty universal Daisy product shot in the Restomod one continuous take style. The gun was quite recalcitrant however which dictated off camera measures being taken with the spring anchor. I'll do another video on just what you can do when your mainspring compression tool won't get the job done.
This Model 94 also had a lot of really dried out oil in the compression chamber which did not want to let go of the compression cup. When the BB gun was cocked and fired you could see the rear of the plunger assembly headed towards the muzzle at inch worm speed, no wonder there was no apparent compression.
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Shane ,some how I didn't get my alert when this came out . But 3njoy very much you knowledge and skill . Plus the information you share with us Daisy BB gun lovers ...bunch of Old Schoolers now . Great video.
Thanks for making this video. I can hardly wait to see your restoration/modification to this Red Ryder.
Thanks Charles. I'm thinking that I'm gonna try a sliding spring block on this one once I get the factory plunger moving at an acceptable rate. Stay Tuned!
Thanks so much for making this
I've had mine 46 years! 🥰
Your voice sounds like every truck commercial I've ever heard.
Love the videos, I emailed you a few days ago about the process and maybe purchasing some parts can’t wait for your reply
How do I remove the barrel band off of a 1938 B model? Once the screw comes out of the fore end the band won't budge at all.
Awesome video update 👍
Thanks, Stay tuned for the rest of the series!
Fantastic video. I just aquired a Daisy 94 that needs some attention...lol... What diameter drill rod did you use to remove the spring anchor? Also can you tell me how to remove and install spring anchor. The video paused when you were removing it. Thanks!
Hello.I..Have a plastic... barrel stock... model...the rest is wood...no hammer.... butt stock has the cowboy lasso spelling out Red Ryder. It used to shoot but stopped couple years ago..have it apart but not compression piece. Its looking good ..trigger spring...everything in good shape. I'll watch all vids. Before taking apart it would push air but not shoot BB. Thank-you
Sounds like your BB feed ramp is blocked. Empty the gun of any BB's you can hear rattling around in there and stick a thin piece of wire, like a paper clip that's been straightened out into the viewing slot on top of the receiver and push it forward towards the muzzle a couple of inches. Remove the wire and see if there is now a BB rattling around in the receiver shroud.
@@RestOModDaisy Tnx for reply and info will do! I did see that and wondered about it. It looked blocked but I wasn't sure. I'll take a look tomorrow ..tnx again RestOMD
@@RestOModDaisy Morning, Its some kind of tube approx 2 3/4 long . Its hollow but no BB can pass thru. I was able to push it out the end of shot tube with some baling wire. It fits into shot tube. Must be something that was "pushed" by air from somewhere. What is it?....mystery tube...So, yes, you called it. The tube was blocking the BB feed ramp port. I"ll wait on reassembly. BB grade .177 cal/4.5 mm
@@alexgramm5170 The 2 3/4" tube you're describing is the airtube that transfers compressed air from the compression cylinder to the shot tube. It should be blocking the feed port if the gun has been fired. When you cock the gun, the air tube is withdrawn from that position by the action of the lever pushing the plunger assembly to the rear of the gun to lock up with the trigger sear. Check this parts diagram out to see it's placement and function
www.jgairguns.biz/1938b-red-ryder-carbine-c-78_186_2016/
@@RestOModDaisy I checked that out and have for reference ; thank you for the exchange. Would I need to take out compression cylinder. How does air tube seat when it's not in shot tube?
Random one but is it better to oil them before cocking or after cocking. Do you advise oiling the barel from time to time too ?
Mr Mon-Eye, The best approach is to oil when you first get your mitts on 'em. Old neglected Daisy's have on many occasions have been sitting in the same spot for decades. This particular gun suffered greatly from the dried out oil in the compression chamber which was acting more like glue than oil. I wanted the video to illustrate just how much drag dried oil/varnish can put on the little guns.
As far as standard practice here in the shop, I'll oil from barrel down, flip the receiver and hit the lever bolt, any of the plunger assembly I can see and then reverse the gun again and oil the slot where the spring anchor was to oil the top of the Sliding Spring Block as well. If you have leather sealed gun there's a strong case for removing the shot tube and dousing the abutment seal to re-lube it, waiting a spell and then doing the same thing from the backside.
Nothing beats a complete disassembly and careful cleaning of each component and an equally careful reassembly. I like to slide the bore scope in the compression chamber and get a good look at the cylinder walls, abutment seal and the back of the abutment washer and then clean the bejeezus out of 'em. Ditto for the barrel shroud.
So I'd say both, anytime you pick them up, oil them and wipe them down. there's a pretty solid body of evidence that oil in the barrel of a Red Ryder will affect accuracy and you can read more about that over at
www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/putting-a-little-more-power-in-a-15-00-daisy.807316/page-38#post-11128384
It's the best place on the internet to learn a maximum amount of info on these neat little guns.
Thanks for the comment and cruise back by!
@@RestOModDaisy superb thank you for the info and taking the time to explain. Great channel and video content fella
@@mr_mon-eye , Thanks so much!
Hi. Question. I have a 1938 daisy made in Arkansas. I'm trying to restore. Will the screw set for a 1938B fit. Is there anyplace to buy screws for it? It's all metal with the screw fill tube not the window fill. No safety on it.
David, Sure you can buy direct from Daisy super cheap. The screw set includes the trigger bolt and nut, lever bolt and nut, stock bolt and nut, top stock screw (The current production screw is a lot longer that those used on the original Model 1938 so you might not want to use it) and a replacement screw for the forearm. They're painted a shiny black so they don't blend well with the Daisy Blue paint on the gun from the factory but they fit and they're cheap. Daisy's #479-636-1200, they will charge for shipping so if there are other parts you need it would be smart to bundle them up in the order. Thinking about any mods? It's a great platform for it!
No regarding this video, but my question is in regards to some antique bb guns I have and wish to know how to oil their inner workings without having to take them apart or taking them to a repair shop. Daisy 1894's and the Daisy/Sears Yellow Boy (still an 1894, but with octogonal barrel and an inch or two shorter). Any help or suggestions you may have to offer would be most welcome.
Extra note: They all still work fine, but I don't know when they were shot or oiled last. Thanks in advance!
Don't blame you on not wanting to take them apart, they are a real bear. I don't work on that platform as rule and here is a copy of the Daisy Owners manual that cover oiling points and preferred oil type from Pyramid Air
www.pyramydair.com/airgun-resources/manuals/Daisy-Winchester-1894-air-rifle-manual.pdf
Do you have a website or contact information if someone is interested in having a bb gun worked on?
Sure, send me an email at "thesocietyforprofit@gmail.com" and we'll see what can be done.
I have a model 1938 and a model 50 golden eagle that I can not remove the shot tube is there a trick sure could use some help love the videos very helpful
The Model 1938 should just screw out by rotating it counter clockwise. The Model 50 is a bit different depending on which version you have. The earliest models had a BB trap located on top of the barrel shroud and were removed by making a 1/4 turn clockwise and then pulling it straight out. Later versions unscrewed like the standard Daisy bottle caps. Does yours still have the tube rear sight on it?
Isn’t that a ‘machine screw’ not a “bolt” ?
Technically yes.
Hi, I tried to email you at the address you have listed but an error message saying the address is not recognized. Would like to discuss parts. Thanks so much, love your videos.
Is there a RE assembly, sir mine is completely almost unsalvageable
Good Morning! I'm missing the screw that holds the forarm on my 111/40. What kind of screw is it? The screw you removed looks like a slotted pan head machine screw. I tried a 6/32 thread screw and it fit but it was just a little bit sloppy so I'm not sure if it's a different kind of screw and thread.
Ranger1, You are correct that the original screw was a 6/32 pan head slotted screw, that's the size I just pulled from one of my original #111 M40's. They are just at 3/4" long and mounted flush with the bottom of the fore stock. Most likely the original screw was lost way back in the day and a replacement was used that opened up the original mounting hole past it's correct diameter resulting in the sloppy fit of your 6/32 replacement part. It is possible to use a 6/32 nut on your bolt as there is access from the rear of the "magazine" tube but it's a fiddly bits install as you will need to fix the nut in place with a wedge to get that screw through the forearm, the hole in the magazine tube and then threaded onto the nut. Or you can go to an 8/32 machine screw and see if it holds.
Shane Bruce thank you sir
Just don't shoot yur eye out. Just kidding. My son in lay is Scottish, and lives in Motherwell Scotland, when he went through his granddad's stuff ( keep in mind this is all Scottish and in Scotland) he found a bb gun type gun. (Rifel) It does not say daisy or anything.( no name of maker no numbers) Do you have a place to show you a picture of this thing? It would be fun to find out how old ect.. This thing is. Thank you and God bless you much :-)
Twila,
You can send me any pics of the old BB gun at "thesocietyforprofit@gmail.com" and I'll see if I can be of assistance. Pics of the right side and left side profiles would be nice and any close up pics of any markings in the top or side of the receiver would be helpful as well as any info on dates of acquisition.
I have a 94 but it has a wooden stock and plastic centerpiece. Any way to determine age.
Certainly. On the top of the receiver is a roll stamp that tells you that you have a Model 94. On that roll stamp will be the place of manufacture, either Rodgers AR or Plymouth MI. There will also be a registration number of a lot lot number as well. Rodgers gun are post 1958, Plymouth guns are pre 1958. The reg/lot number will tell you the year of manufacture after you decipher it. Check this page over at J&G airguns for more info
www.jgairguns.biz/daisy-register-lot-and-serial-numbers-explained-ezp-55.html
Can I contact you to repair a old daisy red rider. From the 1970s
My plunger was rusty and broke off on the inside. any tips to get it out? thanks
Ok, Which model daisy are we talking about?
RestOModDaisy oh jeez not sure it was givin to me by my great grandpa so and older model for sure not sure if that helps but yeah
RestOModDaisy it looks closest to a ‘38 model red ryder
@@wctksoul That's great! Nothing better than a legacy Daisy. Any possibility of sending some pics of the gun? If so, send them to my email address 'thesocietyforprofit@gmail.com' I'd like to see the right side and the left side, the top of the receiver where the daisy model description should be and the end of the muzzle to see if it's a bottlecap daisy. Get those to me and we can go from there.
I have a model 94 I need it fixed. Can you help me?
Mike, Sorry I didn't get a notification on your request. What's wrong with the Model 94?
Good morning. Just wondering if you received my payment on the part for my rifle. Sammy Fisher Benton, Mississippi.
Yes Sir, Item has been shipped. Let me know if there's any thing else I can assist with.
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