What is NATO?
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*after watching the Rome series*
So...where does Caesar come in?
not yet, but keep nato in mind. it will become important later
When he gets the provinces of Blanco Russium, Sarmatia and Dacia he will invade russia
Caesar builds an encampment right outside of the Russian border in the hopes of provoking an attack. It works.
The Nato will be always the strongest military union on this planet! China, Russia, North-Korea and Iran will not change this fact! Long live the Nato! Long live democracy and freedom!
Well russia claims to be third Rome so . . .
Had to come back to this with the current invasion of Ukraina ongoing. It's scary to see how long these things are in the works before they happen
Same here bro
This is the first thing I did too!
same
Back here as Finland joins NATO tomorrow
NATO has taken up all the 3rd reich territory. Nothing "North Atlantic" about it anymore. And I'd day their expansion was super quick compared to Rome but slow compared to something that collapses very fast like Alexander in Persia or Nazi Germany.
Anyone calmed down because of the lovely guitar in the background?
Seriously, we are talking about WW3 causing politics, but the guitar makes it feel like a calming bed time story.
I like it how he organize the names in relatives to their real life location if you put a map of europe over the screen.
Not completelly. For ex. The Czech Republic is on the right (east) and Slovakia is on the left side (west) even though that is actually the opposite
I just realized that the name placement is based on a map, and not random.
MrFrostburner except Slovakia and the Czech Republic, which are switched for some reason...
@@ano1nymus1 A rare mistake, I assume.
I fall in love with this guy just for the background music choice in every single one of his videos. The style of the piece might vary depending on the topic, but he nails it every single time. I'm astonished and even cried over a couple of videos
Which videos did you cry over? These are very inspiring videos
@@TheLifeisgood72 i cried from inspiration
100% agree
@@sam_ram somehow HC's presentation makes history feel so emotional
the cannae one... oof
I like how he put the countries on the picture, where they are, geographically. Norway and Iceland at the top, Greece, Turkey, and Italy on the bottom, etc.
Any plans to revisit this video, specifically how NATO has evolved?
I sometimes feel like history is a watched pot. It never seems to quiiite boil over when I'm looking at it. It'd be interesting to see what's been going on on the last six years from a historical perspective, rather than a political one.
yeah, I think there's a lot to be said about how NATO has expanded. maybe some stuff to be said about the consequences of its expansion
@@IEatYourSandwiches to be fair, I wrote this when NATO was a lot less interesting, and it's raison d'etre seemed a lot less relevant.
I do think a revisitation would be interesting, but equally it would be outdated in all likelihood before it was even uploaded, and it could get lost in the noise. History seems to be the fossil politics leaves behind, but the politics on this aren't dead yet, so making a video on a channel called _Historia_ Civilis might seem... Premature?
I'm sure it'd be well-researched, insightful, and interesting, and I'm sure If love it, but I'm no longer so sure the general public would view it as this strange curio video put up to explain a thing people tend to know of but not about.
@@IEatYourSandwichesah yes "NATO expansion"
"we dont need nato expansion" well russias neighbour sure seem to need it lol
Politics aside, that guitar lick is so easy on the ears.
7 years ago: "What is NATO, we dont know anymore"
2022: "oh yeah, now we remember "
Ironically, after the fall of the USSR, Russia was invited to join NATO.
They wanted but it got blocked by NATO
@@pepebeezon772 Putin clearly did not want that. In the year 2000 when he came to power he disguised himself inside a liberal political camp between the communists and a populist LDPR party. So most of the liberals supported him and he won. He even pursued good right economic course during his first term and flirted with NATO. But only gradually the honest politicians began to realize that he was building an authoritarian state controlling the media and all of the power branches. Then he didn't want to play in a liberal democracies camp and went into a club of dictators supporting his fellows Maduro and Asad and Lukashenko and being a puppet of China. Also it's more simple for the propaganda to go with "west=enemy" theme that have already been enforced since 1945 to 1985.
@@toiletpaper4 “btw mr Clinton, thank you for supporting the coup against the Russian parliament for Yeltsin and helping to dissolve the Soviet Union against the wishes of its citizens!”
@@toiletpaper4 Yeah not like the Americans ever invaded a place illegally eithee...
Ironically, the Soviet Union tried to join NATO in 1954.
And Putin personally claims to have been in favour of joining NATO around the year 2000
"the tighter you close your grasp, lord vader, the more starsystems slip through your fingers
I find your lack of faith disturbing
You underestimate the power of the dark side.
+Darth Vader If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine.
Apparently the US is the dark side? outstanding...
+Plato we prefer the term "intergalactic empire" thankyouverymuch
Man, bad timing. September of 2014. "Nobody knows whats going to happen next".
A month later, the Ukraine Crisis started up and the war that continues to rage 5 years later began. Quite sad.
Edit: This is wrong, disregard it
Wasn't the Ukraine Crisis in February? I remember it happening during the winter olympics in Sochi?
@@danielmccully706 You are right, I was wrong
@@AndrewJ9673 you're a real one.
@@nIhIl34 huh
@@AndrewJ9673 eno lear a eruoy
Suddenly extremely relevant
Russia be all like "Oh you don't feel safe being aligned with us so you're attempting to join NATO, for that you just earned yourself an invasion"
Sure, if we ignore the suspiciously timely pro-western rebellion in Kiev that ousted a democratically elected pro-Russia president.
democratially? Poll were fake you naive...
What rebellion? There were pro-West protesters angry at the shift toward Russia but it was the President that started the shooting and it was his own government that impeached him for it. The current, pro-West government was elected into power in the following election and Russia invaded in responce.
The entire thing isn't only a matter of public record, you can even watch CZcams videos of it going down. The cognitive dissonance necessary to accept the Russian line is mindblowing.
David Kelly
There is great debate who fired those shots and if they even happened. The protests are obviously real but come on, we've seen the coloured revolutions pattern before.
And yeah sure he was impeached by the parliament of the violent protestors, those are the ones who brought back that corrupt shit Yatsenyuk and his ilk. While those of the presidents own party were either too afraid to vote against it or fled for their lives.
I mean, I am not naive. Russia is far from perfect, but pretending there isn't another, shady CIA-Pentagon side to this story is even more naive. Even a cursory glance shows the Kiev "people's protests" stink to high heaven.
I will say this though. As things stand, I trust Russia more than I do America despite both being shady. That is how America has fallen in the eyes of most of the world.
1503nemanja+ a friend of mine who is a young Ukraininan from Lvyv went to Kiev to demonstrate ... he was paid ! some were complaining because obviously at the end, the money would not come anymore. This Ukrainian affair is a sad thing for Russian people ... . Western/NATO lead upsurge of population ... disinformation ... . Nato has to be stopped. I am west european, love my country, and want these guys to stop.
This aged well
Amazing watching this today. Whats happening in Ukraine is perhaps the most predictible conflict in recent history and still here we are.
Because America did not want to give up its bloody dirty ambition.
Just like in Roman history we have seen so often small countries trapped between big ones become back and forth back and forth puppets that shift side each decade and when they get reclaimed it's bloody for everyone but the people who live there get it the worst.
Armenia between the Parthian/Sassanid and Roman Empire is the best example. It's the battle ground where they fought over and constantly each side took turns convincing the Armenian leaders to help them betray their enemies who Armenia was allied with on paper.
Ukraine shouldn't have betrayed Russia by letting it's greed invite America to Russia's doorstep via NATO.
Putin gave them a choice and USA broke the terms.
@@pharaohsmagician8329 Let's not talk about what countries should or should not do...
@@maxicornejo9675 we should say that countries should refrain from imperialism.
Russia: invades ukraine, ergo USAs fault. Lmao, how can anybody be this stupid is beyond me.
@@maxicornejo9675so true let’s let countries do whatever the hell they want without criticism, true 400 iq opinion
Pretty relevant right now
Just stumbled upon this video. I had no idea idea you made videos about NATO. Pleasantly surprised.
Good content as always.
Excellent short course video...mucho gatcias!
I wonder why this was suddenly in my recommended
No idea.
Ukraine
In Starcraft they say "when you are ahead, get more ahead".
Starcraft is a fight to the death. Geopolitics hopefully isn't!
This needs a big big update.
Why? Seems like the issues mentioned here were right on the money.
Really is weird watching this video after the invasion of Ukraine has started
So what? Just because George is within Russias influence doesn’t give them the right to overrule their foreign relations.
If Canada for some reason decided to join a Russia or Chinese alliance that wouldn’t give the US the right to invade Canada or overrule our foreign policy.
Because (Atleast from the russian perspective) thats not the deal. Russia sees Georgia as almost an extension of itself, a better example is the US colony attempting to, oh I dont know, sue for independence, britain invades to overrule that policy.
@@boopydoopy4506 First off George is an independent sovereign country regardless of what Russia thinks or wants. George is not a Russian colony, protectorate, puppet state, etc. George does and should have the right to decide it’s own course without foreign interference and threat of invasion.
There is some deep irony having the username "Otto von Bismarck" and not realizing why larger states operate the way they do with those in their spheres of influence and periphery.
@@SirDerpofCamelot indeed their is. That, however, has no bearing on the discussion at hand. If you can’t agree that every country should have the right to choose their own path and policy decisions then you don’t believe in democracy or liberty.
This aged like fine milk.
These are so cool and explained so well! I hope you will consider doing more
Good video man never knew you did modern history as well keep it up
History is being written. Now.
You forgot about France leaving NATO only to get back in recently.
I thank you sir
They didn't
France didn't leave NATO, only the integrated command structure and told the US military to get out of her soils. In case of far it was planned they'd get back in said structure.
Great channel!! I nearly saw all of it now. :D
This is interesting keeping in mind recent events
Amazing how impartial and objective you managed to stay with this touchy subject.
He said that Russia fought a war against Georgia, but it was the other way round. Georgia was objectively aggressor.
And Ukraine started their prowest policy after prowest revolution, not after annexation (which started after prowest revolution).
@@user-hb8et4bp1j How? No state ever encroached upon Russian soil since 1941. Meanwhile, I've lost the count of how many times Russia itself has invaded others since then.
Stalin asked if the USSR could join NATO if you can believe it. Basically he just wanted those countries to admit it was meant to oppose the USSR.
wow that was very informative, thank you.
Is there any future videos in plan about modern topics like NATO? I feel like another video on it would be great, perhaps like an update with how things are going. ( If its worth doing )
Though, I do very much love your content on ancient history. Your videos are consistently charming
"Frankly, no one knows what's going to happen next."
I know what happened next.
It would really turn everything on its head if for some reason Russia actively tried to join NATO.
Stalin would roll in his grave and Putin would cry his manly Russian tears.
Russia DID try to join it. They... They went accepted :(
No they didn't, the idea circulated and there was cooperation but as the Russian envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin was quoted as saying: "Great powers don't join coalitions, they create coalitions. Russia considers itself a great power."
Indeed. What Russia wanted was basically for a NATO 2.0 to be created with them as a member. But the US didn't want this as it would mean less control than it currently had.
why NATO exists? there is no threat from communists and USSR, because it doesn't exist anymore
Perfect explanation vid!!
update needed!
Russia had always viewed NATO as a military organization, which' only purpose is to be an enemy of Russia. And when your enemy is slowly inching towards you, using political and economical leverages to coerce or convince 'neutral' countries to join them, creeping closer and closer to your border, you're bound to get anxious. And, eventually, decide to strike first, before it's too late. That's what happened in Ukraine.
This is debate material & my thoughts lean in support of your discussion. Any group outside of norm is threatening & any street gang could prove this as factual.
Russia is run by Siloviki (security service people, ex-KGB, FSB). They are highly paranoid about everything that's going on in the world. Kinda like some american military people paranoid about multiple enemies of the US attacking in every minute.
If you follow Russian news and Russian government reactions to different events taking place in the world, you will notice a trend. Every time something bad(sometimes good) happens around the world, Russians (politicians and press) claim that whatever happened was directed against Russia and coordinated by the US. It is funny and scary at the same time.
Whatever the real reasons are, Russians keep saying the same thing which is: "Ukrainian government was overthrown by nazies from the Western Ukraine who want to slaughter all the ethnic Russian and just all the Russian speaking population for fun". It sounds ridiculous, but that's what they were claiming. That was their only justification of annexing Crimea.
The way I see it is that Russia with it pathetic economy and corrupt to the core political system wants to become a great geopolitical power without being able (due to it's political structure) to become a great economical power first. Plus Putin will be a Russian hero for ages for, as they say, returning Crimea.
Things do not seem that black and white to me. If anything, you just voiced a polar opposite opinion. Russian media says - We're in the right, everything anyone else says is wrong. Western media, from what I've been able to observe, say that 'We're in the right, everything Russian media says is wrong.'
Information war is being waged, and one of the oldest weapons of propaganda is 'demonization of the opponent'.
You seem like a bright individual, however. Perhaps you could find it entertaining to muse on certain questions, that might bring forth a new perspective. For example: Does Russia have geopolitical enemies? Who are they? Are they looking to expand their sphere of influence? What can Russia do to stop them? Should it? What would happen, if it doesn't do anything about it? (assuming the answer for first question is Yes).
I don't believe there is any threat to Russia's sovereignty and territorial integrity coming from outside. However, there is a threat to Russian's influence over some ex-Soviet countries, so it is possible to say that Russia has geopolitical enemies in some sense.
There are different ways to look at the reasons why Russia is loosing it's influence in the region. The reason I see is inability of Russia to provide necessary benefits to their allies in order to make them dependent. If you look at Ukraine and Belarus, you may see a big difference. While Belarus economy is heavily subsidized and therefore highly dependent on Russia, Ukrainian is not that much. The other reason I see is public and political will which are, again, very different in Ukraine and Belarus.
The reasons Kremlin sees, or at least it says it sees, is carefully planed and executed conspiracy goals of which range between some kind of military and political domination of the US and its European allies over Russia and total destruction of Russia as a country.
As a native of Eastern Ukraine I've spent years following Russian media. I always thought that Kremlin didn't really believed in some of their ridiculous claims, but In the last few years I started feeling that they actually do believe.
Whether Russia should do something about loosing its allies depend on its ambitions. If it's determined to control the region, Russia should find proper ways to do it. I believe that strong economy is the only thing they need to get that control. Creating war zones like it happened in Ukraine was not a way to deal with the problem, it made it worth. Russia lost Ukraine for decades and harmed its economy. There is a joke in Russia: "If NATO troops deploy in Ukraine, we will start bombing Voronezh". Russia spent years growing by relying on their energy resources, but it can't do it longer. Their budget is built around oil and gas prices. The only good thing they found to say about dealing with the recent economic crisis was: "Our experts say that the oil prices will go up in the next two years, so there's nothing to worry about." Russia's domestic mess is a whole another topic though. Russia is a huge country with a GDP of California and big ambitions.
I don't think anything horrible would happen if Russia looses some countries to Europe or the US or whoever else they see at the end of the pyramid.
There is a lot more to all of that of course.
What do you thing? Is there a real military threat to Russia? How should they deal with the situation?
You said my opinion was popular. Should it be unpopular to be more true?
It may seem black and white, but It's not that easy to make it seem different in a short CZcams comment.
+Observer29830 Or maybe these countries just wanted to be safe from 50 years of forced occupation? People of east Europe knows Russians best and they WERE right. First opportunity arises and Russia grabbed foreign land(Crimea). Before that was South Osetia, Abchasia which are practically occupied by Russia. Also parts of Luhansk and Donetsk.
It was not "striking first" it was just Russia getting its acts together at last from fall of Soviet Union. As they say "standing up from knees". Apparently the moment Russia stands from its knees it marches to foreign lands. It was repeated multiple times over history and East Europe countries knows that.
It was east Europe that wanted to join NATO not NATO wanting them.
I like how the countries' placards form a map.
Damn! I love how you made the name of the countries stay in a position similar of the countries in the map.
Damn, had to rewatch
didn't realise you touched anything after the beginning of the renaissance
Don't all the country's just want to join for protection? Like if a country is in the Nato and it is attacked by another country, then everyone in the Nato has to protect that country. Doesn't seem too odd to me, its a step towards world peace. Thats just my guess, please correct me.
world peace
Its not world peace if any country is excluded. This group may be counterproductive to UN purpose where all participate rather than isolate - you are only safe if you are among the "chosen" 28 countries.
+LANO NATO didn't bomb Libya for no reason. If you think massive political moves and military action are taken for no reason, then you have lost all grasp on World politics for the time being.
+VintageLJ I think "no reason" was poor wording on his part. More like, "for strictly selfish reasons, with little to no worries about Libyans".
Kai Schneider
Nato is bad and they bombed innocent country
What is the song in the background? Also, why did you stop making videos about Rome?
I was on shuffle in this playlist and this just comes on and I am throughly confused
+Finland 2023 3:02
+Sweden
Very nice, I am impressed how you were able to place all the country names roughly in geographic proper place, well done.
Would be cool to see a E U Union vid from a master like you.
why did i discover this just now? i've been watching your videos for years but i never got this one
Very good information however, It would be nice to get an update on this.
Maybe if Russia didn't behave like a bully towards the eastern European countries like it did in the last 100 years (and still does), these countries might not feel the need to align themselves with NATO.
People want peace and prosperity and NATO and EU try to bring these things to their member countries (even though they cannot guarantee them). Putin on the other hand just wants a (renewed Russian) empire, which in itself would be of no concern to other countries - if he didn't also try to engross other sovereign countries in his little big empire.
and to your presumed absolute lack of surprise, we have the current situation of russian imperial invasion
That is the best/most balanced portrayal of NATO I've ever seen
Archsinner please join the nato and handle the uranmunition. You will kill not only innocent poeple you will contaminate and damage yourself.
The nato-leaders will not care about you. They even knew the danger
It is VERY pro US.
Nicely Explained
Now includes Finland and Sweden and is again extremely relevant. Nice background music, BTW 🎶
A military alliance meant to protect it's member states and their interest. With the US as it's most importent and most influential memberso. Therefor it's mostly protecting the hegemony of the US. I'm mostly fine with it the US does crappy things but I rather have their hegomony then that of China or Russia even if I prefer that Europe would become it's own power.
We're the devil you know
And America is? Lol.
Harold Haroldson No, no it isn't. It's a shithole like the rest of the world is currently.
Harold Haroldson Comparing the US to countries likes Brazil and Africa is a joke, lets atleast compare it to other western countries.
Harold Haroldson So the rest of the world = China? Well, I guess you are American so probably have little to no knowledge about Geography.
I could ask plenty of people in the States and I guarantee they would tell me it's not that great.
This video is honestly more relevant than over now
Now
Can we get more vids like this?
And now this video takes on all the more importance.
Please don't stop doing other stuff than antiquity, these are important : )
Just watched this in 2019. Who else is watching in 2019
2020 my dude
I never knew you had a series on NATO, lol
I think this is way too late and probably noted but the music is a bit distracting
I love historia civilis but I disagree in one thing. NATOs expansion into former soviet sphere of influence was COMPLETELY natural consequence. I grew up in one of these former cccp countries and you wont believe the injustice that Soviet Union was treating us. Deportations, KGBs, all sorts of restrictions like to travel or even to express yourself artistically was monitored. There are stories that you guys wont even believe. People were praying to get rid of that deeply faulty regime and west was seen as a light at the end of the tunnel. Younger generation didnt want to watch russian cartoons and movies anymore and they grew up learning english from american movies instead. So you see... if you annex a country and mistreat them for hundreds of years then what do you expect? Especially in todays informative world. Of course we want to be friends with the other side. Its natural consequence.
You are climbing from a wreck of a ship onto another sinking one.
NATO basically makes your country a vasall of the USA. Sure it might protect you in the short run against russia, but they will happily sacrifice you for their own safety if needed and you will have to accept the sociopolitical changes that come with being part of their sphere of influence.
Europe should be strong enough by itself and not be militarily dependent on a less then trustworthy "partner".
Small correction: Albania was under Chinese influence and the former Yugoslav Republics were non-aligned, so it's more accurate to call them Post-Communist instead of Post-Soviet.
I'd love to see your thoughts on this today.
Amazing how this video is just as relevant today
I'm from the future and I have some news about Ukraine
Positively prescient.
Well ik this video was made before Montenegro joined NATO
But what phase would it be in
This series will never be more relevant. Any chance you could speculate on NATO and Russia now strategically?
The reason for NATO's expansion is pretty simple; the fall of Soviet Russia doesn't mean much to Russian militancy. Russia was expansionist for a literal millennia before the Soviet Union. One new government wouldn't change that, and indeed, it didn't. At least not entirely. The fact many Russians are fleeing the country in protest of the war is unique in Russia's history.
If I was Rassia, I'd probably wonder what it was that made so many of my ex-allies want to join NATO in the first place. But self introspection was never a strong attribute of authoritarian states.
Indeed. Why would my neighbors, my cultural brothers, willingly try to get in an defensive alliance with a nation on the other side of the globe instead of my nation?
I think the answer is obvious, the United States offers protection and cooperation, Russia offers sending its army to take over.
Huge deal? Hungarians wrote on the tanks in 1956 *russians* go home, there is no vodka, Lithuania was terrified of new ultimatum. It is only natural they wanted in, plus economic integration was a desperate "pleeeeeease, signed, Poland", as such why not confirm it militarily
Considering money spent on military, Europe just hope that in the third time USA would intervene faster ?and harder?. As Britain put the burden of war on France, Europe hopes to put it on USA
But there was an objective. E. Europeans country knew that they need western assistance to keep the region stable. For example, my country (Romania) asked NATO to start discussions about collaboration as early as 1991. Joining NATO was decided later when it became clear the countries from the eastern block would need a solid guarantee that they will be allowed to continue their own internal reforms and development without Russia being able to interfere in their internal affairs - which is an actual and real threat (the eastern block countries are significantly poorer in the 90s than former soviet republics). The Baltics wanted to keep their independence. The continuation of NATO ensures stability for the western nations and in Europe, in general.
and it ensures dependency and obedience.
Watching the Ukraine segment in 2020 like: 🤫
Did he upload this like the day before Russia annexed Crimea
I like what you did with the countries being sorta on a map. That being said, the Czech Republic and Slovakia are in the wrong spots.
saying that Ukraine and Georgia are in the "sphere of infuence" of Russia is saying that Russia decides, what these countries do. It's unacceptable and the whole reason, why these countries want to get away from Russia...sadly, Russia doesn't get that
This video aged like fine wine.
It truly did and the Ruskie simps in the comments just prove it right.
.What is NATO? Baby don't invade me, don't invade me, no more.
I'll show myself out.
How were Slovenia and Croatia in oviet sfere of influence?
Part of Yugoslavia
Historia Civilis: *talks about recent history*
Me: 👀👄👀
Yeah Iceland
I've played Risk. Iceland is extremely important.
:P
hahahahh true
It really is (along with Greenland) if you consider the NW Passage.
Hey H,
I like your videos very much, (waiting for Alexander of Macedonia to proceed east one day;) and I do agree with most of the things you said in this one. However there are few I wouldn't agree with to the full extent. a) to keep Russia out, still remain an objective. What would have happen did NATO not include all central Europe region in. As you said vacuum of power for few years. Then who would fill that vacuum? Russia would. Would west Europe (and US) be better of without central Europe in? Military surely not, cos they would simply stay on the other side of the fence (willingly or not) economically neither, because today it is all integrated with German economy through the EU. That would have never happen if central Europe was under Russian sphere of influence. The only ones not content with the play out are Russians, but let's face it, they lost the cold war and there were good reasons for that to happen. If they had better offer on the table for all these countries, they would stay within her sphere of influence. The truth is everyone wants out, and US simply gave them the opportunity. My point is that maybe it is Russia that does something wrong if no one wants her patronage. Wars that you mentioned, invasions simply, may just be great examples. Do you see US invading UK for leaving the NATO? No way. But Russians bulid their influence on fear mostly, that is why it can't be sustained any other way, but by force. That is the big difference, when it comes to US and USSR in Europe at least. That is why USSR had no chnce of winning, nobody wanted it to win. Everyone wanted it to collapse.
it could be argued that russias resurgence in the 2000s was a response to nato expansion into eastern europe
we might have not seen such a defensive posture from them if america had stayed out of european affairs and let them form their own defensive pacts, sort of like a return to the consort of europe
@@bob-lk5et As if Russia didn't always have imperial ambitions. Those intentions are centuries old. I think it is clear that at least after Putin (a former KGB officer) and his kin rose to power in Russia there should have no doubt that NATO was still very much necessary.
I know someone called Nathan O'brien. But we cant call him Nat 4 short as there is a Natasha in t office. So we call him NatO....il see myself out
Or there's a Scottish guy who lost a toe in an accident and his friends now call him nae toe
thanks
Knowing about ukraine's history with russia i cant blame them to side with nato
When you think about things like NATO being anti-communist, and the general trade blocks and sanctions put on communist countries; it really is a wonder that they survive. Such a wonder; it must be quite the system. I wonder what it would be like if capitalism and communism interacted in an equitable way rather than a competitive way.
Facism
"it really is a wonder that they survive"
Which "they" are you referring to?
It's really a wonder that murderers continue to survive. Such a wonder; they must be quite the people. I wonder what it would be like if we stopped jailing murderers and interacted with them in an equitable way rather than a defensive way.
Well good news for you, you can! It's called China. Go there and see how life is. I'm sure it's a really great system. Oh, you might want to write your will before you leave. You never know, you might say something and then next day, vanish off the face of the earth and no-one can find you. Have fun though
Interesting to watch in 2023 eight years after this video was uploaded
Phase 6 video when?
This video aged well. :D
Anybody watching this after russia invaded ukraine?
yes
You mean after Ukraine invaded Russia via NATO
@@pharaohsmagician8329 no
@@pharaohsmagician8329 Someone’s been telling you porkies, son!
Revisiting this in 2023… mannnn
After 8-9 years we see the problems to come on top
why is Turkey in Nato.
they are not Westerners or even European.
Being western or eastern is not required to be in Nato, 3 simple things are needed:
1. Dislike towards communist ideas
2. Having an army
3. Not hating America
Considering Turkeys geopolitical importance and the fact that Turkey has the secong largest army in NATO, it would be pretty dump not to invite Turkey into a western alliance instead of letting it fall into the Russian sphere of influence.
Turkey has always been the best (and occasionally the worst) of both worlds.
1. Turkey or the Ottoman Empire and Russia, respectively the USSR, have always been enemies. Look at the Turkish Wars and their final outcome, the imminent dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, only prevented by the UK, France and other western powers in 1878.
2. Turkey has no friends in the Arab world, it is remembered and despised as the worst colonial power in the region.
3. Turkey has only one "friend" in Europe, Germany. The entire south-east of Europe remembers the Ottoman Empire as a cruel and brutal oppressor. They despise Turkey.
Hence, Turkey needed and still needs all help it can get.
*****
dude... NATO is basically North American plus western Europe. Are you thinking of Warsaw pact nations
west A Maybe not western but turkey has historically been referred to as European
That explains recent Russia invasion to Ukraine.
Wtf how did you type this 2 weeks before it happened
@@pharaohsmagician8329 before the violent invasion there was a lot of pasive-agresive invasion reports on the news.
I would say that the music background is quite annoying though. sorry
I think you are wrong at the part in which you said that Croatia and Slovenia were under Soviet influence, ex-Yugoslavia was not under the Soviet influence since the Tito-Stalin split.
And you didn't mention Serbia and Montenegro, especially Montenegro because Russia sees it as it's last hope for an entrance to the Med., well we could talk about the russian pretensions all night